#ALeague #FoxSports#CCMvWEL 26k

I have not followed this thread so this may have been said before, but maybe the dive in Foxtel's A League ratings this season has a lot to do with cancelled subscriptions after Fox were outbid by Optus for the EPL.

So why did it result in less attendances, FTA ratings and general apathy for the game?

Just for kicks is on channel one before the a league game be interesting to see how that effects the ratings

Ouch. 30k watched the game all up.

He is the best CEO in Australia because he is on Twitter.

It's not the complete severance of FFA from every stakeholder in the game. It's because you can stream games. Yeah that's it.

Oh wow Australians dont like the Internet do they.

For comparison - Melbourne Cup 113,000, RLWC Final 7,000 NRL Prelims 9 & 10,000, Average NRL match on Fox 7,000.

#ALeague #ONE#MVCvADL 46k

I’m confused as to why those numbers are rounded up or down to the nearest thousand eg why is it 6,000 and not 5,979 - the network infrastructure is very precise and doesn’t do any rounding up so who’s doing that bit??

However, taking the numbers as given - the Glory CEO has been floating the thought that the HAL has been leaking viewers to streaming services which these numbers debunk

Looking closely at it, they are per minute average ratings, so even across a 60 second slot, they are averaging  lots of instances coming and going.

I imagine they do this because because the average time  the average person spends watching something online is still measured in minutes.

But I have to admit, those numbers look much smaller than I would have expected.  Given our younger demographic, you'd expect those numbers to be a lot higher.,

The Melbourne Cup only goes for a few minutes, which aligns closely with the amount of time someone is willing to spend watching something online in a single, continuous instance.

Not if you count the entire day. Plus, many are more invested in the Melbourne Cup for obvious reasons.

Because Foxtel Go is a bad streaming service which you still need to actually have Foxtel itself to use i think? The poor quality youtube streams almost have more views.

#ALeague #FoxSports#BRIvNEW 30k

#ALeague #FoxSports#PERvMCY 34k

#ALeague #FoxSports#MVCvADL 44k

What might be taking more viewers are the Apps on phones and mobile - downloads for the AFL and NRL apps are in the order of 2-3 million. This doesnt take into account non network/fox owned streaming - Im not even certain if this counts both of  Foxtel Go and Foxtel Play - two distinct services.

Play doesnt exist anymore. Its just Go now.

#TVratings Saturday #ALeague #ONE
#MVCvADL 46k https://t.co/KYNaA9Kw7a

Heard today what I have been thinking for a while now ...

Football has to come to peace with itself, as however shit FFA's leadership under Lowy is and that most want an independent Hal etc..... the constant negativity and bagging almost everything ..  has had a terrible effect... our ratings / crowds and general media coverage is in the toilet ... recovering from this position no matter who is in charge or what system is in place is going to be hard ... Add both cricket and AFL are doing everything they can to put the slipper in and they are both using their influence with the traditional media an government ...

I wish Lowy would step down ... for the good of the game he seems to be such a pivotal  point with many stakeholders especially on the club side... but if he refuses to step aside then work towards fucking him off without tearing things apart... the current ratings and crowds are beyond pathetic , they are distressing and at a level where its difficult to see anyone taking up the rights. Akin to Bonaparte taking Moscow and finding nothing.... winning but loosing in the end...

I posted this before...

A good media normally increases crowds and ratings

A poor media normally decreases crowds and ratings.

A toxic media is normally code destroying ..

It seems to me anyway there has been a relationship breakdown between Lowy and some of the clubs and it  has become a  personal feud....and  reached a point where both seem to be willing at whatever costs to have their way...   

@ Midfielder

Lowy and the FFA are the problem, they are the start, the middle, and the end of it. To many people have defended them and made apologies for their behaviour over the years; Steven had chance to do something good and move football forwards but all he’s done is make things worse. There can be no solution that involves Lowy, it’s too late for that.

Waz

Please on my bended knees please accept YES as the answer. I have no idea how you don't see many people if not most blame Lowy and FFA ... So please accept we all see that ... YES Lowy is the main problem .. YES Lowy is the main  problem...

Now what I said was there is no point in destroying the game to get rid of Lowy.... or to move to new systems,,, we as a code have done this so much in the past... for me it shows a very childish and immature approach especially from our limited Football media ... Ratings of under 30K and crowds no mostly under 10k ... FFS who will buy into this ... Certainty no broadcaster and many potential investors may take a second look.

The clever thing is to remove Lowy without hurting the game... but that requires thinking, planning outside the very basic approach of lets criticise everything... even you posted a little while back lets not throw the baby out with the bath water... 

As I said whoever is in charge and whatever system we implement recovering from sub 30K ratings is going to be very hard.. and yes Lowy is the main problem... but the civil war has sucked the life out of the game.... and hand on heart not the other thing one of the big mover and shakers behind the scenes is the Nix rugby loving, spent little on Football owner ... do I accept owners like him are striving to make the game better or is he trying to reduce his costs.

Yes I also understand its about governance so no one gets to much power ... 

But lets in the process of changing  the guard leave it in tack...

At the time decisions were being made about marketing this season things weren't as bad as they are now. Anti FFA sentiment had traction and attendances would be sluggish, but they weren't threatening derailment of the season as has eventuated. At the time the decision was made not to market this season I can see it only as Lowy putting the clubs through the acid wash. Weaken their balance sheets to weaken their bargaining position during the congress negotiations. All of these things have snowballed but there were still points along the journey where the damage could have at least been softened. Lowy chose not to. He plotted the course down and he does't give a shit who he takes down with him.

Yes, I am saying he is that much of a cnt toward the game. Yes, I am saying he is more worried about his legacy and dynasties than he is the game.

This game doesn't recover in this country until concrete steps are taken to remove every Lowy from it.

^^^^
Boh.... yep you are right ....

There is no argument we need to fuck off Lowy..

There is more than one way to skin a cat ... 

If it does fall over it will be mainly Lowy that caused it .....

Having said all this, we are at Basketball levels now just before they were pissed off for a few years.... 

I was incredibility disappointed with FIFA when they came the second time they did not understand the issues and issue guidance... but we are where we are and if we continue to fall recovery is going to be amazingly difficult ... its hard to imagine what more damage can be done to FFA reputation so lets get on with promoting the game.... save it in spite of Lowy not because of him...

I think Fox will be having some very strong words with the FFA post season and so they should! They bankroll the entire league, without their cash the A-league wouldn’t exist, and I don’t think they’d be very happy at all with how things are going!
They won’t care about all the infighting within the sport, that’s not their problem, but they’ll be telling the FFA to get their shit together, as their cash currently isn’t being spent wisely and it’s basically going down the drain.

I know some people will say that they don’t own the sport and they don’t, but they own the platform that our sport is shown on, they’re the only ones to contribute finally, and they have a huge interest in how the sport is going.

Its like me being the landlord of a property, and the current tenants aren’t paying rent and are trashing the place. As a landlord, who needs a return on my investment, I’d be trying to kick those tenants out ASAP.
This situation to me is much the same here.
And I hope this happens.

@ Midfielder

The game can’t be saved with Lowy in power, it just can’t. They keep a tight grip on everything. But watch the bounce when he goes ...

@sanchez

In bed with each other. FFA agrees to whatever FOXTEL wants b/c FOXTEL allows to FFA spend $ on whatever they want. FOX $ should remain in a professional league system. FFA & FOXTEL are as bad as each other in this regard.

The game can’t be saved with Lowy in power, it just can’t...... Agree 100%

They keep a tight grip on everything........ Agree the over control and fear of others making key decisions has been a major problem... and his instructions to FFA management on what to do have wasted both their time and money that would have been better spent on the game... 

But watch the bounce when he goes ...HHHHHmmmmmm .... with the game rating sub 30K now in many games, crowds in free fall... media space because of this falling...  AFL and Cricket in full on attack mode .... so whats going to turn it around ... whats going to get broadcasters interested ....