Australia vs Peru


Australia vs Peru

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It'll be interesting to see a game where Peru are under more pressure defensively.

Their next friendlies are v Saudi Arabia in Switzerland, and away v Sweden.
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FT 2-0. Opened up a bit in the last half hour.

We'll smash 'em.
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paladisious - 30 May 2018 12:57 PM
FT 2-0. Opened up a bit in the last half hour.

We'll smash 'em.

Judging by that and the NZ game Peru are nothing special at all, even at home in front of an intimidating home crowd. 


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Scotland C side so read into it what you will. 

I will be the farm now they will see us as a physical opponent and try everything to con the ref. 
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sydneyfc1987 - 30 May 2018 1:11 PM
paladisious - 30 May 2018 12:57 PM

Judging by that and the NZ game Peru are nothing special at all, even at home in front of an intimidating home crowd. 

The only doubt to that is we have been singularly unsuccessful in breaking down teams that have parked the bus over the last couple of years. Therein will be the mark of BVM's coaching whether we can unlock the Peruvians. I'm guessing they will hope for a 1 - 0 win against Denmark, nil all with France, and a draw or win against us would see them through.
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Footballking55 - 30 May 2018 1:17 PM
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The only doubt to that is we have been singularly unsuccessful in breaking down teams that have parked the bus over the last couple of years. Therein will be the mark of BVM's coaching whether we can unlock the Peruvians. I'm guessing they will hope for a 1 - 0 win against Denmark, nil all with France, and a draw or win against us would see them through.

I think there is almost no chance that Peru will park the bus against us. They would see us as their biggest chance to get a comfortable win. If anything, we'll be parking the bus. 
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I think most people on this forum underrate Peru, while vastly overrating Denmark. Judging by recent results, Peru would have to be favourites to go through along with France. Maybe we can spoil their party. It won't be easy though. 
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Derider - 30 May 2018 1:25 PM
I think most people on this forum underrate Peru, while vastly overrating Denmark. Judging by recent results, Peru would have to be favourites to go through along with France. Maybe we can spoil their party. It won't be easy though. 

they couldnt break down NZ at home. Beat them 2-0 (admittedly without being troubled at all) after pulling every trick in the home team book to disrupt them. 

Not underrating them at all. They are a good team but not great. their ranking definitely flatters them.

We can do them for sure, which is not to say we will, just that if we play to our strengths, and don't have any brain snaps we can win. Denmark too.  France not so much.


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Derider - 30 May 2018 1:25 PM
I think most people on this forum underrate Peru, while vastly overrating Denmark. Judging by recent results, Peru would have to be favourites to go through along with France. Maybe we can spoil their party. It won't be easy though. 

I think most of us here have really only watched the games against NZ. They are now 13 games unbeaten including an away draw in Argentina. The friendly against Croatia they looked pretty classy.
Post 2016 they were 2nd only to Brazil in the number of points earned in Qualify in South America. 3 points more than any of the other rivals.
The one big doubt that I have over Peru, is they never play games in Europe. 4 years ago they played and lost to both England and Switzerland and haven't been back since. Before that you have to go back to 2008 when they last played against a European team in Europe (a loss to Spain).
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Derider - 30 May 2018 1:20 PM
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I think there is almost no chance that Peru will park the bus against us. They would see us as their biggest chance to get a comfortable win. If anything, we'll be parking the bus. 

Considering they made the world cup by complete and utter shithousery i very much doubt that. If New Zealand were fit they'd be the ones in the world cup.
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City Sam - 30 May 2018 2:32 PM
Derider - 30 May 2018 1:20 PM

Considering they made the world cup by complete and utter shithousery i very much doubt that. If New Zealand were fit they'd be the ones in the world cup.

Wood almost made it 1:1. Peru would likely have overstretched their lines and NZ might have wound down the match.

Their coming matches should be a closer indication of what they can do. 
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sydneyfc1987 - 30 May 2018 1:11 PM
paladisious - 30 May 2018 12:57 PM

Judging by that and the NZ game Peru are nothing special at all, even at home in front of an intimidating home crowd. 

They have a practically nonexistent record outside of the Americas, as well. The neutral and away friendlies in Europe will be telling.
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the scotland side they played is probably mid table spl level (not sure why. Perhaps they wanted to look at up and coming players). Hard to read into. I think we have a chance if we play well
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johnszasz - 30 May 2018 6:12 PM
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Wood almost made it 1:1. Peru would likely have overstretched their lines and NZ might have wound down the match.

Their coming matches should be a closer indication of what they can do. 

When did Wood almost make it 1:1? His only good chance came from a Peru give a way in the last few mins when it was 2:0. Thomas had their best chance in last few minutes of first leg.

Peru's last 5 games have been against mostly defensive teams (apart from Croatia)
0-0 vs New Zealand in Wellington
2-0 vs New Zealand in Lima
2-0 vs Croatia in Miami
3-1 vs Iceland in New York
2-0 vs Scotland in Lima

4 wins and  1 draw
9 goals scored
1 conceded

Stretched unbeaten record to 13 games (Venezuela, Uruguay, Paraguay, Jamaica, Bolivia, Ecuador, Argentina, Colombia, NZ, NZ, Croatia, Iceland, Scotland)
9 wins
4 draws
7 games played in Lima
6 games played outside of Peru (Venezuela, Ecuador, Argentina, NZ, Croatia, Iceland)
8 Official games (Venezuela, Uruguay, Bolivia, Ecuador, Argentina, Colombia, NZ, NZ)
5 Friendlies (Paraguay, Jamaica, Croatia, Iceland, Scotland)

Their two games in the USA were better than the Scottish one which was mostly a farewell party. Unsure how Sweden and Saudi Arabia prepares you for Denmark, France and Australia but it is what it is.

I believe the Danes are on a similar unbeaten streak




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SC1997 - 31 May 2018 4:32 AM
johnszasz - 30 May 2018 6:12 PM

When did Wood almost make it 1:1? His only good chance came from a Peru give a way in the last few mins when it was 2:0. Thomas had their best chance in last few minutes of first leg.

Peru's last 5 games have been against mostly defensive teams (apart from Croatia)
0-0 vs New Zealand in Wellington
2-0 vs New Zealand in Lima
2-0 vs Croatia in Miami
3-1 vs Iceland in New York
2-0 vs Scotland in Lima

4 wins and  1 draw
9 goals scored
1 conceded

Stretched unbeaten record to 13 games (Venezuela, Uruguay, Paraguay, Jamaica, Bolivia, Ecuador, Argentina, Colombia, NZ, NZ, Croatia, Iceland, Scotland)
9 wins
4 draws
7 games played in Lima
6 games played outside of Peru (Venezuela, Ecuador, Argentina, NZ, Croatia, Iceland)
8 Official games (Venezuela, Uruguay, Bolivia, Ecuador, Argentina, Colombia, NZ, NZ)
5 Friendlies (Paraguay, Jamaica, Croatia, Iceland, Scotland)

Their two games in the USA were better than the Scottish one which was mostly a farewell party. Unsure how Sweden and Saudi Arabia prepares you for Denmark, France and Australia but it is what it is.

I believe the Danes are on a similar unbeaten streak

Good stats, thanks SC.

Aside from two friendly wins in the Gulf against Iraq and Qatar in September 2014, you have to go back all the way to 2005 for their last win outside of the Americas, against Japan in the Kirin Cup friendly tournament in 2005.
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paladisious - 31 May 2018 6:46 AM
SC1997 - 31 May 2018 4:32 AM

Good stats, thanks SC.

Aside from two friendly wins in the Gulf against Iraq and Qatar in September 2014, you have to go back all the way to 2005 for their last win outside of the Americas, against Japan in the Kirin Cup friendly tournament in 2005.

They have been mostly restricted to playing friendlies in the Americas...not much interest from European teams due to lack of WC presence.

They have lined up games vs Germany and the Dutch after the WC (funny what a WC qualification does)
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Nabbout out. We've seen enough of Kruse. A must win and we must play:

                       Ryan
Risdon Sainsbury Milligan Behich 
                 Luongo  Mooy
Leckie           Rogic         Arzani 
                      Cahill
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Peru have more fans but we have a lot of support. Denmark and France had very few. 
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johnszasz - 22 Jun 2018 1:02 AM
Peru have more fans but we have a lot of support. Denmark and France had very few. 

Hats of Peru. Pathetic by France and Denmark in honesty. 

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sydneyfc1987 - 22 Jun 2018 1:17 AM
johnszasz - 22 Jun 2018 1:02 AM

Hats of Peru. Pathetic by France and Denmark in honesty. 

Danes, like most of Europe apart from Germany, were pretty uncomfortable with going to Russia. Euro 2016 definitely did scare off a lot of people.

Viennese Vuck

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We have to win Denmark has to lose 

but if France win tonight it is bad for us because they wont try put Denmark away 

these Kangaroos can play football - 
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No kruse. Peru will be exhausted. 

And this is ripe for Cahill at 60.

Start arzani
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Pretty rough for Luongo not to have featured yet. If he turns it on we'll be in good stead. I think his stamina will be valuable against Peru. 
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Be interesting to see how we line up. I agree with johnszasz's starting XI. Not sure if Luongo starts ahead of Jedinak though, but we have nothing to lose, we have to go for it.

I'd go Cahill ahead of Juric. For however long he can last. We need an outlet in the box when there is shit all on offer. 

Huge game! I still think we're in this. France won't want to relinquish 1st spot, they'll go for it. They haven't been at their best but I'm hopeful they can turn it on against the Danes. 
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This lot actually look better than both Denmark and France, stiff to be knocked out already.
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Closed HAL failed with 11
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and still this weird 16-team panacea gets trotted out. 
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southmelb - 22 Jun 2018 9:55 AM
This lot actually look better than both Denmark and France, stiff to be knocked out already.

One of the best drilled teams in this world cup, but they really lack talent going forward, composure and are definitely shaky at the back.
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Be interesting to see how Peru perform against us. Will playing without pressure and pride make them play better, or will they just fall apart and be overly emotional.
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City Sam - 22 Jun 2018 10:00 AM
Be interesting to see how Peru perform against us. Will playing without pressure and pride make them play better, or will they just fall apart and be overly emotional.

I'm assuming they will go attack and try and get a goal...its about the only thing they can do now to give something to their fan base
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Watching Peru last night, they looked very good on the ball (so we'll have to remain sharp defensively) ... however they gave a lot of room to the French wide men, the left back for France made a few overlapping runs with no marker. Definitely out wide is where we need to attack Peru (also why I think Cahill has to start ... not only does he ensure centre backs stay near him, but also gives an avenue to goal).
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