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Steveswr33333 - 11 Apr 2020 11:08 AM
Marki - 11 Apr 2020 8:35 AM

No one is more pessimistic than you...you have perceptions that aren't realistic...you expect a win every week...a team to be 20 up by the 70th minutes....a plethora of self indulgent idiocies. I speak from the days when we rarely won...back in the 64-65 era...we tried hard and that was for us true fans about all we could hope for. We haven't won since 2004...so what. We will win again, You gloat everytime we lose...your endless spiels have little to do with the true Bulldog fan. Will the comp restart end of May...too early to say now...but when it does we can only hope things fall into place....the word "hope" seemingly foreign to you. For the rest there is a scintilla of hope at the very least.

The "fan" in me watches eagerly every week in the "hope" that we play well and win. 
The brains in me tells me we are not at the level that we can win every week. But we can be.
Reminiscing about failures of the past should not be the benchmark going forward.
It's like pointing to the USA about Covid19 and gloating about us being better than them. 

Why not benchmark ourselves against the top teams? 

Hell, why not try and win the bloody thing?

Pessimism is one thing, the non desire to institute change to a repeated problem is another. 

We are not sheep who just follow the coach and boards decisions and accept the outcomes of their decisions with no criticism. We are fans who expect success and we are passionate about it too. We will call BS when we see it. Some of us can even watch a game without blue and white glasses.

There is no shame in wanting us to improve.
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Marki - 11 Apr 2020 11:49 AM
Steveswr33333 - 11 Apr 2020 11:08 AM

The "fan" in me watches eagerly every week in the "hope" that we play well and win. 
The brains in me tells me we are not at the level that we can win every week. But we can be.
Reminiscing about failures of the past should not be the benchmark going forward.
It's like pointing to the USA about Covid19 and gloating about us being better than them. 

Why not benchmark ourselves against the top teams? 

Hell, why not try and win the bloody thing?

Pessimism is one thing, the non desire to institute change to a repeated problem is another. 

We are not sheep who just follow the coach and boards decisions and accept the outcomes of their decisions with no criticism. We are fans who expect success and we are passionate about it too. We will call BS when we see it. Some of us can even watch a game without blue and white glasses.

There is no shame in wanting us to improve.

Not reminiscing about failures from the past but remembering the adage you have to crawl before you can walk. Your history of the Bulldogs is only phrased in terms of winning. I'd hope that you are not a soccer dad. Of course we are trying to win the darn thing but some of us don't just see black and white...there are varying shades of grey. It is a complicated process made harder by the selfishness/stupidity of what could have been key players and the legacy of an incompetent board and lousy CEO

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Steveswr33333 - 11 Apr 2020 12:27 PM
Marki - 11 Apr 2020 11:49 AM

Not reminiscing about failures from the past but remembering the adage you have to crawl before you can walk. Your history of the Bulldogs is only phrased in terms of winning. I'd hope that you are not a soccer dad. Of course we are trying to win the darn thing but some of us don't just see black and white...there are varying shades of grey. It is a complicated process made harder by the selfishness/stupidity of what could have been key players and the legacy of an incompetent board and lousy CEO

I don't dismiss the challenges faced as a result of your last sentence. And of course I have hope in the future and faith that the current admin can get us back on track
I see this "break" as an opportunity to start afresh and rid ourselves of a style that I believe is flawed in the modern game.

All teams are going to get this opportunity to either fine tune what they have, or implement radical change.
I just believe we are one of the teams that needs radical change. 
Tweaking our game is not going to make us a title challenger. And this where we need to be.


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Marki - 11 Apr 2020 12:35 PM
Steveswr33333 - 11 Apr 2020 12:27 PM

I don't dismiss the challenges faced as a result of your last sentence. And of course I have hope in the future and faith that the current admin can get us back on track
I see this "break" as an opportunity to start afresh and rid ourselves of a style that I believe is flawed in the modern game.

All teams are going to get this opportunity to either fine tune what they have, or implement radical change.
I just believe we are one of the teams that needs radical change. 
Tweaking our game is not going to make us a title challenger. And this where we need to be.


Problems with the style are mainly the 9,7,6,1 and other players getting the ball wen these guys should get it...

Foran should be back on deck and we have Wakeham, Averillo, Lewis... having good halves directing the play will be a step up.


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The 2011 AFL Prelim final between Collingwood and Hawthorn is on Fox right now.

Hawthorn loses this game painstakingly close against the more fancied Collingwood but this single loss shaped them going forward and they made the next 4 Grand finals in a row winning 3.

Mick Malthouse nearly has a heart attack in the final few minutes and few minutes after, breaking down in the coaches box
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Marki - 11 Apr 2020 2:01 PM
The 2011 AFL Prelim final between Collingwood and Hawthorn is on Fox right now.

Hawthorn loses this game painstakingly close against the more fancied Collingwood but this single loss shaped them going forward and they made the next 4 Grand finals in a row winning 3.

Mick Malthouse nearly has a heart attack in the final few minutes and few minutes after, breaking down in the coaches box

9 years later and the last 3mins still gets my heart racing...
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Marki - 11 Apr 2020 12:35 PM
Steveswr33333 - 11 Apr 2020 12:27 PM

I don't dismiss the challenges faced as a result of your last sentence. And of course I have hope in the future and faith that the current admin can get us back on track
I see this "break" as an opportunity to start afresh and rid ourselves of a style that I believe is flawed in the modern game.

All teams are going to get this opportunity to either fine tune what they have, or implement radical change.
I just believe we are one of the teams that needs radical change. 
Tweaking our game is not going to make us a title challenger. And this where we need to be.


Don’t worry Marki.... Noticed how we’ve seen none of the boys training in their backyard or doing any weights training.... Dman is doing pre season training mid season with the boys

VBski’s, lamb sharwarma & a pack of durries a day is the secret to success..... just ask Dman!

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Villi - 11 Apr 2020 3:14 PM
Marki - 11 Apr 2020 12:35 PM

Don’t worry Marki.... Noticed how we’ve seen none of the boys training in their backyard or doing any weights training.... Dman is doing pre season training mid season with the boys

VBski’s, lamb sharwarma & a pack of durries a day is the secret to success..... just ask Dman!

So Dman did land that gig as drinking coach, match made in heaven.

I still can't see how it will help us win games.
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hounddog - 11 Apr 2020 5:16 PM
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So Dman did land that gig as drinking coach, match made in heaven.

I still can't see how it will help us win games.

Baa still has that gig... I’m a consultant, and I  work with Bas on a few things... You must have missed the moles tweet about ‘the grog whisperer’...
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Hahaha.... Just reported in the Scumgraph that the Roosters want all clubs to start on 0points once it resumes

Watch Dman’s mate TTT bend over & grant his wish 
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Villi - 11 Apr 2020 7:12 PM
Hahaha.... Just reported in the Scumgraph that the Roosters want all clubs to start on 0points once it resumes

Watch Dman’s mate TTT bend over & grant his wish 

We are happy to start on zero if the Roosters start on -4.

Lyn will sort these blokes out, we might even start the season on +10.
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Villi - 11 Apr 2020 3:14 PM
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Don’t worry Marki.... Noticed how we’ve seen none of the boys training in their backyard or doing any weights training.... Dman is doing pre season training mid season with the boys

VBski’s, lamb sharwarma & a pack of durries a day is the secret to success..... just ask Dman!

You haven’t sent an invite to watch season 2 of Friends on Skype yet... Are we on for Monday night at 730pm???... Clap clap... clap clap clap clap... 

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https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/dragons-confirm-lafai-the-subject-of-police-matter-after-home-incident-20200412-p54j4j.html

I think with these lockdown laws, we will see a spike in these types of incidents. 

Tempers will flair and with the one avenue of escape which is to leave the house and calm down taken away, it will result in escalation. 

I talk from first experience. As a result of this lockdown my wife has attacked both me and our kids about the mess around the house - any mess. This is beyond the normal. 

I feel that everyone needs to take a chill pill. We aren't gonna get visited by the Queen or some other person of importance and so our house pride should take a backward step with primary focus on health.

I'm not saying we need to be unhealthy grubs but women should take note and STFU!
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Marki - 12 Apr 2020 12:31 PM
https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/dragons-confirm-lafai-the-subject-of-police-matter-after-home-incident-20200412-p54j4j.html

I think with these lockdown laws, we will see a spike in these types of incidents. 

Tempers will flair and with the one avenue of escape which is to leave the house and calm down taken away, it will result in escalation. 

I talk from first experience. As a result of this lockdown my wife has attacked both me and our kids about the mess around the house - any mess. This is beyond the normal. 

I feel that everyone needs to take a chill pill. We aren't gonna get visited by the Queen or some other person of importance and so our house pride should take a backward step with primary focus on health.

I'm not saying we need to be unhealthy grubs but women should take note and STFU!

Well this is the right platform for you to reach a wide audience of ladies with your ‘advice’... 

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dman2018 - 12 Apr 2020 12:51 PM
Marki - 12 Apr 2020 12:31 PM

Well this is the right platform for you to reach a wide audience of ladies with your ‘advice’... 

Spread the word guys....
Use your fists if you're mute.....
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Marki - 12 Apr 2020 12:31 PM
https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/dragons-confirm-lafai-the-subject-of-police-matter-after-home-incident-20200412-p54j4j.html

I think with these lockdown laws, we will see a spike in these types of incidents. 

Tempers will flair and with the one avenue of escape which is to leave the house and calm down taken away, it will result in escalation. 

I talk from first experience. As a result of this lockdown my wife has attacked both me and our kids about the mess around the house - any mess. This is beyond the normal. 

I feel that everyone needs to take a chill pill. We aren't gonna get visited by the Queen or some other person of importance and so our house pride should take a backward step with primary focus on health.

I'm not saying we need to be unhealthy grubs but women should take note and STFU!

Cleaning the garage.
She: You haven't done anything.
Me: I've done 10 boxes of books.
She: Why didn't you throw them out.
Me: I don't want to throw them out.
She: You'll never read them all.
Me: But they are special and I will someday.

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Todays numbers are breathtaking. NSW 3, Vic 3, QLD 9, SA 0, WA 3, ACT 1, Tas and NT yet to report but are expected to be low or 0.

When you hear them talking about the infection % it means how many people are infected by one person. EG at it's height back in March it was 26% so one person on average was infecting 26 others. I think it's 2% or lower now.

If it falls below 1% that means we're on the way to eradication. Not even considered possible not long ago but I did hear the Dep Health dude say on TV the other day (when explaining -1% heads towards eradication) that even though it's something he doubts, it's still a real possibility.

But even at 1%-2% or eradication, the question's got to be asked wtf do we do then? See with such a low infection rate and NIL herd immunity, there's no way we can open our borders internationally to any other country unless they're the same, and that may only be NZ or Samoa (which has 0 cases). Nobody will ever come or go from The U.S or Britain and most of Europe until there's either a cure (maybe) a treatment (more likely) or a vaccine (which despite hopes, may never come).

We're gonna be alone down here for a long time unless there's a breakthrough. And we won't be able to go anywhere either unless you add two weeks isolation onto the end of your trip.
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Zef - 12 Apr 2020 5:22 PM
Todays numbers are breathtaking. NSW 3, Vic 3, QLD 9, SA 0, WA 3, ACT 1, Tas and NT yet to report but are expected to be low or 0.

When you hear them talking about the infection % it means how many people are infected by one person. EG at it's height back in March it was 26% so one person on average was infecting 26 others. I think it's 2% or lower now.

If it falls below 1% that means we're on the way to eradication. Not even considered possible not long ago but I did hear the Dep Health dude say on TV the other day (when explaining -1% heads towards eradication) that even though it's something he doubts, it's still a real possibility.

But even at 1%-2% or eradication, the question's got to be asked wtf do we do then? See with such a low infection rate and NIL herd immunity, there's no way we can open our borders internationally to any other country unless they're the same, and that may only be NZ or Samoa (which has 0 cases). Nobody will ever come or go from The U.S or Britain and most of Europe until there's either a cure (maybe) a treatment (more likely) or a vaccine (which despite hopes, may never come).

We're gonna be alone down here for a long time unless there's a breakthrough. And we won't be able to go anywhere either unless you add two weeks isolation onto the end of your trip.

My response to this goes 2 ways...
1) if we manage to eradicate, but the rest of the world doesn't, I think this country can return economically or ar least to a sustainable level.
Sixty minutes will have a piece on us running out of food, but I'm not convinced it's anything but sensationalist journalism to ride this Covid-19 media storm. I think there is plenty of food generated and we can restart our jobs, education and domestic travels.

2) we wait it out until the whole world realizes that herd immunity and acceptance of this virus as an "annual event" takes place. The population shrinks and the future is one where if you die young from this virus, you become a statistic and the world moves on. Its callous in its thinking but I'm afraid it's a distinct possibility.
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Zef - 12 Apr 2020 5:22 PM
Todays numbers are breathtaking. NSW 3, Vic 3, QLD 9, SA 0, WA 3, ACT 1, Tas and NT yet to report but are expected to be low or 0.

When you hear them talking about the infection % it means how many people are infected by one person. EG at it's height back in March it was 26% so one person on average was infecting 26 others. I think it's 2% or lower now.

If it falls below 1% that means we're on the way to eradication. Not even considered possible not long ago but I did hear the Dep Health dude say on TV the other day (when explaining -1% heads towards eradication) that even though it's something he doubts, it's still a real possibility.

But even at 1%-2% or eradication, the question's got to be asked wtf do we do then? See with such a low infection rate and NIL herd immunity, there's no way we can open our borders internationally to any other country unless they're the same, and that may only be NZ or Samoa (which has 0 cases). Nobody will ever come or go from The U.S or Britain and most of Europe until there's either a cure (maybe) a treatment (more likely) or a vaccine (which despite hopes, may never come).

We're gonna be alone down here for a long time unless there's a breakthrough. And we won't be able to go anywhere either unless you add two weeks isolation onto the end of your trip.

What we do is make 2 weeks isolation on return, or vaccination a requirement for an overseas trip..
We don't yet have a vaccine, most estimates are 12 months...
Trade can still occur particularly cargo travelling by the sea, worst case scenario we quarantine some of that, or disinfect it.
For the next 12 months most overseas will countries will not want tourists until they are on top of the virus.
I imagine travel will be cheap, but you will need to pay for 2 weeks hotel accommodation when you get back, IMO this will not worry young backpackers going off on a world adventure, they are probably heading off for 2-3 years, they will simply avoid known virus hot spots, and probably have a shot of the vaccine before they get home..
Provide we trust the country giving them the vaccine, no need for 2 weeks quarantine..

IMO what we really needs is 2-3 weeks of zero new cases, then open things up slowly do lots of testing and be ready to respond quickly to any new out breaks.

When I was a young backpacker I travelling to places like India, there were nasty bugs going around, and you could get shots for some, but not all of them.
You would find young Australian / English backpackers wandering around with Hepatitis, there was even one case of an Indian mountain climber with Hepatitis, who was judged too sick to climb K2, so he went off and climbed 3 smaller mountains for practice.. he was a quiet guy who didn't boast, others told me.

Point being young fit people sometimes take all kinds of crazy risks with their health, some of them may pay a high price for that, I tried telling some of them to go home and get proper medical treatment...     

I'm not sure why Hepatitis I had shots for it and didn't get it...why the other tourists didn't have shots and though it was OK to wander around with the bug is anyone's guess... Even one has different levels of risk tolerance, and some make smarter decisions...


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hd the problem with this covid-19 is that they are finding that there are people who have caught it, fought it, survived and then have been reinfected. I therefore think that a vaccine is probably not good enough we will need to find a way to destroy it or we will continue to be reinfected.

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ODF - 13 Apr 2020 12:21 AM
hd the problem with this covid-19 is that they are finding that there are people who have caught it, fought it, survived and then have been reinfected. I therefore think that a vaccine is probably not good enough we will need to find a way to destroy it or we will continue to be reinfected.

There is mixed info on that both false positives and false negatives are possible.

In any case reinfecfions would be very rare.

Worldwide we are slowly getting better data.
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hounddog - 13 Apr 2020 7:36 AM
ODF - 13 Apr 2020 12:21 AM

There is mixed info on that both false positives and false negatives are possible.

In any case reinfecfions would be very rare.

Worldwide we are slowly getting better data.

Apparently the testing method genetically detects the presence of the  virus but doesn't differentiate between dead and alive virus.  There is no evidence that reinfected people are getting sick or infecting those they come into contact with. 
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The curve undeniably flattening.  But the extent is difficult to interpret.. Between 8:00pm on 10/4 & 8:00pm on 11/4 in NSW there were only 7 new infections.  There were only 840 tests conducted in this 24 hour period.  A total of 141000 have been conducted to date.  Way down for Easter.
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Mooloolabadog - 13 Apr 2020 8:02 AM
The curve undeniably flattening.  But the extent is difficult to interpret.. Between 8:00pm on 10/4 & 8:00pm on 11/4 in NSW there were only 7 new infections.  There were only 840 tests conducted in this 24 hour period.  A total of 141000 have been conducted to date.  Way down for Easter.

The Easter period would have affected these for sure. The 24hr results on Wednesday onwards will provide a better picture I think.
But with most of the world now taking this seriously, we should see improved results. Unfortunately those at the top of the death and infection rate might have to accept that 300-400 dead every day is a good thing compared to over 1000 or 2000.
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Marki - 13 Apr 2020 8:44 AM
Mooloolabadog - 13 Apr 2020 8:02 AM

The Easter period would have affected these for sure. The 24hr results on Wednesday onwards will provide a better picture I think.
But with most of the world now taking this seriously, we should see improved results. Unfortunately those at the top of the death and infection rate might have to accept that 300-400 dead every day is a good thing compared to over 1000 or 2000.

Wrong choice of words....
"Better thing" might be more appropriate 
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Marki - 13 Apr 2020 8:45 AM
Marki - 13 Apr 2020 8:44 AM

Wrong choice of words....
"Better thing" might be more appropriate 

Oh the delicious irony in Marki chi dining a poster re choice of words...
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dman2018 - 13 Apr 2020 10:17 AM
Marki - 13 Apr 2020 8:45 AM

Oh the delicious irony in Marki chi dining a poster re choice of words...

*chiding...
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dman2018 - 13 Apr 2020 10:23 AM
dman2018 - 13 Apr 2020 10:17 AM

*chiding...

I assumed Chi Dining .. was a new social distancing  compliant form of a shared virtual restaurant experience without food .and grog .. drinking the same brand of tea.
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