FFA Congress Review Working Group Thread


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Nominations for a new Chairman before the 2 Oct.What will Lowy do?
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Has anyone been privy to notice of meeting and agenda

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Blew.2 - 9 Sep 2018 10:54 AM
Has anyone been privy to notice of meeting and agenda

The FFA is not like COAG. New Zealand won't get a proxy/observer invite. The State Feds and grassroots bodies in Oz don't give two hoots about Wellington Phoenix 
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New_Dawn_Kiwi_Fan - 9 Sep 2018 11:39 AM
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The FFA is not like COAG. New Zealand won't get a proxy/observer invite. The State Feds and grassroots bodies in Oz don't give two hoots about Wellington Phoenix 

Why should they? They are a NZ team. The only ones that should only give two hoots about is New Zealand Football
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Blew.2 - 9 Sep 2018 9:27 AM
So the FFA were never going to call the EGM. Waited for a Fed to ask for it then left it to the last day. FIFA will note this. Now it comes out Sport Aus visited FFA HQ before sending the letter of objection and little Stevie knew nothing of it and did not ask for it. Key being it will take a week for SA to reword Stevie’s points of objection.Stevie still has his block voting pac sitting in the wings for 2 October

Do you have a source for the things you raise in your post?  There are a couple of articles around that I have read but they didn't include what is in your post.  
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Blew.2 - 9 Sep 2018 10:54 AM
Has anyone been privy to notice of meeting and agenda

"Two resolutions will be put forward at the EGM on October 2, one establishing a new Congress with more votes for the A-League clubs, the players union and the women’s game, and the other creating a body to oversee a new independent model for the A-League."

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/football/football-federation-victoria-triggers-october-2-general-meeting-on-future-of-game-in-australia/news-story/6d7d960173baefaa22c499b82a92ca18

The actual text of the motions would be interesting to see.  The establishment of the new congress membership structure and voting rights will require changes to a number of articles in the FFA Constitution and won't come in to effect until the close of the meeting that the actual changes are approved by the required special majority.  That being the case the second motion would be voted on by the existing members but would only require a simple majority to pass.  Its an interesting point to think about whether the congress has the authority to establish the new body.
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I still the this 'women's vote' is furphy and up for sale to the highest bidder. Whilst the FFA have been shameful, the new overlords won't be much better.

Overall, a disgraceful episode of self entitlement and greed. And the bloke in the street has been forgotten. Sad.
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#i still think this women's vote. That was what I meant to say above.
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Gyfox - 9 Sep 2018 12:36 PM
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Do you have a source for the things you raise in your post?  There are a couple of articles around that I have read but they didn't include what is in your post.  

 Mentioned on twitter and then seconded is all I have to base as a source but the 2 are known to be factual sources (Can't post screen shots on here)

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New_Dawn_Kiwi_Fan - 9 Sep 2018 11:39 AM
Blew.2 - 9 Sep 2018 10:54 AM

The FFA is not like COAG. New Zealand won't get a proxy/observer invite. The State Feds and grassroots bodies in Oz don't give two hoots about Wellington Phoenix 

Well known facts. It is in the interest of the HAL I ask and follow this as I enjoy the watch. 

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Blew.2 - 9 Sep 2018 2:09 PM
Gyfox - 9 Sep 2018 12:36 PM

 Mentioned on twitter and then seconded is all I have to base as a source but the 2 are known to be factual sources (Can't post screen shots on here)

Why not name the twitter posters ?


Closed HAL is failing with 10 teams
Closed HAL failed with 11
FFA forced to try a 12 team Closed HAL thatll just create 2 more mid table also-rans
and still this weird 16-team panacea gets trotted out. 
Theres a sticky for this nonsense
https://forum.insidesport.com.au/1617388/The-Aleague-Expansion-Thread

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Buggalugs 2.0 - 9 Sep 2018 8:29 PM
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Why not name the twitter posters ?

In one generation we've officially gone one step down from "well, it's in a book, it MUST be true........" to "well, someone tweeted it, it MUST be true........"
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https://www.theage.com.au/sport/soccer/ffa-s-extremely-tangled-web-is-about-to-be-unravelled-20180908-p502jc.html


test  Found away to post sauce.
Stevie was "Surprised the letter arrived but did not ask for it"  a telling statement if factual

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bohemia - 9 Sep 2018 11:08 PM
Buggalugs 2.0 - 9 Sep 2018 8:29 PM

In one generation we've officially gone one step down from "well, it's in a book, it MUST be true........" to "well, someone tweeted it, it MUST be true........"

The forum world is full of "well, it's in a book, it MUST be true........" to "well, someone tweeted it, it MUST be true........"

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Lynch’s article. An article which says nothing. Amazing content like this gets published.
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Coverdale - 10 Sep 2018 6:31 AM
Lynch’s article. An article which says nothing. Amazing content like this gets published.

X2. If Lynch gave a stuff about grassroots soccer, then cover a State League 2 game. Instead of dipping free beer in the media box at Etihad Stadium. Entitled prick.
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New_Dawn_Kiwi_Fan - 10 Sep 2018 7:09 AM
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X2. If Lynch gave a stuff about grassroots soccer, then cover a State League 2 game. Instead of dipping free beer in the media box at Etihad Stadium. Entitled prick.

#sipping free beer.
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#sipping free beer.

Don't we all

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New_Dawn_Kiwi_Fan - 9 Sep 2018 11:39 AM
Blew.2 - 9 Sep 2018 10:54 AM

The FFA is not like COAG. New Zealand won't get a proxy/observer invite. The State Feds and grassroots bodies in Oz don't give two hoots about Wellington Phoenix 

Where did this come from lol?

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Blew.2 - 10 Sep 2018 6:01 AM
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/soccer/ffa-s-extremely-tangled-web-is-about-to-be-unravelled-20180908-p502jc.html

Stevie was "Surprised the letter arrived but did not ask for it"  a telling statement if factual

FFA's extremely tangled web is about to be unravelled

Just how confident is embattled Football Federation Australia chairman Steven Lowy that his game plan is watertight and that he might just be able to stare down the growing army of opponents, even FIFA, and thwart plans to radically revise the governance of Australian soccer?

Lowy is opposed to the model for a more representative FFA congress that FIFA's working group (and his detractors) are pressing for, one which would dilute the powerbase of the chairman and open the sport up to more influence from the professional game and a wider body of stakeholders.

It's a high-stakes strategy he is pursuing as FIFA is growing increasingly impatient about the inability of all parties to sort out the impasse which has caused the Australian game to stall in recent years.

For Lowy, the reward is continued maintenance of power and influence. But there are enormous risks which could affect the Socceroos, the Matildas and the sport within FIFA's global structure.

If FIFA is fed up enough with Lowy and the shenanigans over the past couple of years it could go as far as establishing a "normalisation committee", effectively taking control of the local sport.

By continuing to hold out, Lowy and his backers (who argue that their opposition to the FIFA committee's proposals for change are based on a desire to protect the grassroots of the game) must be incredibly sure that they can see off any FIFA challenge, either at the emergency general meeting they have called for October 2, or in the courts.

The other possibility is that they are being incredibly reckless, to the point that they are determined to hang on to power irrespective of the consequences.

The consequences, should FIFA take umbrage and then adopt a hard line, could be fateful.

At worst, it could suspend Australia from competition, making it impossible for new coach Graham Arnold and the Socceroos to defend the Asian Cup.

Getting on the wrong side of FIFA would also do little to assist Australia's case as it bids to host the 2023 Women's World Cup: one can only assume that a prudent leadership would, of course, have factored that into its decision making.

It seems like this battle between an increasingly intransigent Lowy, backed by a small group of local state soccer officials whose current boardroom influence far outweighs the strength of the regions they represent, and an increasingly militant opposition has been going on for as long as he has been in charge.

The factions ranged against him – who have been accused of acting out of self interest by Lowy supporters – were never comfortable that he inherited the job from his father Frank.

It's fair to say that in many ways Frank Lowy is the architect of the current morass that has seen reputations trashed, friendships shattered, trust betrayed and few parties emerge with their status enhanced.

He chaired the organisation for a decade, and at least one former member has described the FFA board in those days as a dictatorship where Frank Lowy ruled by fiat, and discussion of things that he didn't agree with simply did not take place.

Governance was a concept honoured more in the breach than the observance would be his summary of that period.

For those who just like watching games, or whose involvement is to take their kids along for training during the week and a game on a Saturday and Sunday morning, this is all eye-glazing stuff - a power struggle between one super rich man backed by a few of his colleagues against a bunch of other rich men with their equally well-heeled supporters in their corner.

But it is important, because there is so much riding on it.

If control of the future direction of the game remains in the hands of the incumbents, it will likely foster more resentment and the likelihood of an immediate breakaway by the A-League clubs.

There is, as explained above, the potential of FIFA action which would damage the reputation and image of Australia globally and have an impact on the short-term future of the Socceroos and Matildas.

The 11th-hour involvement of Sport Australia, which had previously kept quiet on the matter, only ratchets up the stakes.

It released a letter on Friday echoing Lowy's view, saying it didn't support the proposed changes from the FIFA-backed working group.

But FIFA is extremely touchy about any perceptions of government intervention, and could look critically on Sport Australia's involvement in the debate.

It's tedious, it's boring – except to policy wonks – but it's important.

And hopefully it will be resolved at next month's extraordinary general meeting.





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Closed HAL failed with 11
FFA forced to try a 12 team Closed HAL thatll just create 2 more mid table also-rans
and still this weird 16-team panacea gets trotted out. 
Theres a sticky for this nonsense
https://forum.insidesport.com.au/1617388/The-Aleague-Expansion-Thread

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At least the FFA always help fill in the off-season each year.

A new Board might ruin things

Closed HAL is failing with 10 teams
Closed HAL failed with 11
FFA forced to try a 12 team Closed HAL thatll just create 2 more mid table also-rans
and still this weird 16-team panacea gets trotted out. 
Theres a sticky for this nonsense
https://forum.insidesport.com.au/1617388/The-Aleague-Expansion-Thread

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Buggalugs 2.0 - 10 Sep 2018 11:22 AM
At least the FFA always help fill in the off-season each year.

A new Board might ruin things

True, we may have to talk about football instead.
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https://www.ftbl.com.au/news/ffa-set-their-d-day-512234
FFV:  The group demanded an overhaul of the way football is run in Australia, opening up congress to clubs, players and women, with a pathway for seats for fans and NPL clubs too, and allowing the A-League to spin off and set up its own administration.

Was this in the letter of meeting request?


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September 30 is the deadline for nominations for election. So it'll be slap-my-arse-and-call-me-charlies when we see Stevie boy nominate for reelection 2 days before the vote on the congress changes.
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He'll nominate

And maybe withdraw later

Question is who else will ?


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Closed HAL failed with 11
FFA forced to try a 12 team Closed HAL thatll just create 2 more mid table also-rans
and still this weird 16-team panacea gets trotted out. 
Theres a sticky for this nonsense
https://forum.insidesport.com.au/1617388/The-Aleague-Expansion-Thread

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Maybe he will resign on day 3?
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Leo Athanasakis has announced he is stepping down as SMFC president, he might throw his hat in the ring.
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Greg Grithin will a nominee 😜

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bigpoppa - 11 Sep 2018 10:14 AM
Leo Athanasakis has announced he is stepping down as SMFC president, he might throw his hat in the ring.

I don't think he can nominate for 2 years after being involved in an official position with a club.
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Surely the forces of 'good' mist have some nominees up their sleeves.
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