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Disappointed at team selection but not unexpected.
Here's my take on where we are at, leading into the Perth test from the top.
CA board - New board, no improvement, lack of statements compared to old board even you did not agree.
In fact they are so silent ,do we have someone leading cricket at the moment, seems no better if not worse than before.
Score = minus
Selectors - Based on the current selections far worse than before, how can you go into a Perth test, will be mid 40's plus on the ground
and no pace all rounder, especially with the suspect pace attack we have as mentioned by others. Adelaide proved that the bowlers cannot maintain
the effort without another to share the load.
Score = minus
Coach - Justin was one of my all time favourite batsman & I had in my test team long before he actually was.
As a coach he can talk the talk but the only walking is the batsman getting out & walking off.
Score = ?
Captain - Paine is not a captain for a test side. The previous selectors made a huge mistake in making him captain & the new lot
did not address it. If he was not captain, he would not be in the side as a wicket keeper batsman & CA has made a rod for their own back,
as to sack him is to proves they were wrong.
Score = minus
Vice captain - Do we have one?
Score = minus
Finch - I assume they are hoping he will turn into a Watson / Warner type player, with a view as a future possible captain.
Won't work, he is not a test player, get rid of him.
Score = minus
Harris - Refreshing & good technique, needs time and well worth giving it to him.
Score = plus
Khawaja - An enigma, so much talent but still goes out to the same delivery, would much rather see him open.
Score = plus
Marsh - The person whose inclusion I judge the whole team on, mediocre and if he is the best we have as a number 4
we will always struggle.
Score = minus
Handscomb - Don't mind he has a different technique as it makes the bowlers change their line, but mediocre again.
Score = minus
Head - Like Harris, refreshing well worth giving time in the middle.
Score = plus
Paine - enough said already, shouldn't be in the team.
Score = minus
Cummins - Down on pace, not as effective as he was & no longer that fierce wicket taking pace, OK with the bat but we need
bowlers to .be primary bowlers.
Score = minus
Starc - Struggling with the work load & would OK if a pace all rounder was included to take some of the load.
However score is based on this team selection.
Score = minus
Lyon - What can you say about this player, the only tall poppy left & still growing. Should be batting ahead of Cummnins.
Score = A plus
Hazelwood - Good solid performance, the only pace bowler to perform as he should. Needs 2 good pace men to support him.
Based on the above is why I think test cricket has a long dark future.
Until we good leadership from the top, stop this old school tie nonsense & put the current & future interests of cricket first,
we will continue to struggle.
Re lack of crowds for test matches, I sent CA an email when they first announced the channel 7 / Foxtel deal, telling them it was a big mistake.
They isolated the majority of the public from watching these lead up matches, which in turn decreases the public interest in cricket overall,
End result, no bums on seats.
Have fun with the above
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I wanna see Harris, Ussie and Finch using their footwork to rotate the strike against the spinners. That can mess up a bowler's rhythm.
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+xDisappointed at team selection but not unexpected. Here's my take on where we are at, leading into the Perth test from the top. CA board - New board, no improvement, lack of statements compared to old board even you did not agree. In fact they are so silent ,do we have someone leading cricket at the moment, seems no better if not worse than before. Score = minus Selectors - Based on the current selections far worse than before, how can you go into a Perth test, will be mid 40's plus on the ground and no pace all rounder, especially with the suspect pace attack we have as mentioned by others. Adelaide proved that the bowlers cannot maintain the effort without another to share the load. Score = minus Coach - Justin was one of my all time favourite batsman & I had in my test team long before he actually was. As a coach he can talk the talk but the only walking is the batsman getting out & walking off. Score = ? Captain - Paine is not a captain for a test side. The previous selectors made a huge mistake in making him captain & the new lot did not address it. If he was not captain, he would not be in the side as a wicket keeper batsman & CA has made a rod for their own back, as to sack him is to proves they were wrong. Score = minus Vice captain - Do we have one? Score = minus Finch - I assume they are hoping he will turn into a Watson / Warner type player, with a view as a future possible captain. Won't work, he is not a test player, get rid of him. Score = minus Harris - Refreshing & good technique, needs time and well worth giving it to him. Score = plus Khawaja - An enigma, so much talent but still goes out to the same delivery, would much rather see him open. Score = plus Marsh - The person whose inclusion I judge the whole team on, mediocre and if he is the best we have as a number 4 we will always struggle. Score = minus Handscomb - Don't mind he has a different technique as it makes the bowlers change their line, but mediocre again. Score = minus Head - Like Harris, refreshing well worth giving time in the middle. Score = plus Paine - enough said already, shouldn't be in the team. Score = minus Cummins - Down on pace, not as effective as he was & no longer that fierce wicket taking pace, OK with the bat but we need bowlers to .be primary bowlers. Score = minus Starc - Struggling with the work load & would OK if a pace all rounder was included to take some of the load. However score is based on this team selection. Score = minus Lyon - What can you say about this player, the only tall poppy left & still growing. Should be batting ahead of Cummnins. Score = A plus Hazelwood - Good solid performance, the only pace bowler to perform as he should. Needs 2 good pace men to support him. Based on the above is why I think test cricket has a long dark future. Until we good leadership from the top, stop this old school tie nonsense & put the current & future interests of cricket first, we will continue to struggle. Re lack of crowds for test matches, I sent CA an email when they first announced the channel 7 / Foxtel deal, telling them it was a big mistake. They isolated the majority of the public from watching these lead up matches, which in turn decreases the public interest in cricket overall, End result, no bums on seats. Have fun with the above jaszyjim Paine - enough said already, shouldn't be in the team.
Score = minus.
On what do you base that assumption?
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+x+x+x Jadeja has yet to play a test in Oz. That is a surprise. its a different art to spinning in the sub continent. He could do well or go for many Ashwin said he has studied Lyon's bowling in Australia in order to improve his poor figures when he has toured here before. I also read Lyon suggested he had to learn to back spin the ball more like the Asian spinners, on Asian surfaces. Yeah I read these too. Lyon uses over-spin in Aus, so Ash wanted to copy that in Aus. Jadeja uses side spin and drives the ball into the pitch - which Lyon sought to do in the UAE after studying him for Asian conditions. Everyone copies everyone these days.
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+x+xDisappointed at team selection but not unexpected. Here's my take on where we are at, leading into the Perth test from the top. CA board - New board, no improvement, lack of statements compared to old board even you did not agree. In fact they are so silent ,do we have someone leading cricket at the moment, seems no better if not worse than before. Score = minus Selectors - Based on the current selections far worse than before, how can you go into a Perth test, will be mid 40's plus on the ground and no pace all rounder, especially with the suspect pace attack we have as mentioned by others. Adelaide proved that the bowlers cannot maintain the effort without another to share the load. Score = minus Coach - Justin was one of my all time favourite batsman & I had in my test team long before he actually was. As a coach he can talk the talk but the only walking is the batsman getting out & walking off. Score = ? Captain - Paine is not a captain for a test side. The previous selectors made a huge mistake in making him captain & the new lot did not address it. If he was not captain, he would not be in the side as a wicket keeper batsman & CA has made a rod for their own back, as to sack him is to proves they were wrong. Score = minus Vice captain - Do we have one? Score = minus Finch - I assume they are hoping he will turn into a Watson / Warner type player, with a view as a future possible captain. Won't work, he is not a test player, get rid of him. Score = minus Harris - Refreshing & good technique, needs time and well worth giving it to him. Score = plus Khawaja - An enigma, so much talent but still goes out to the same delivery, would much rather see him open. Score = plus Marsh - The person whose inclusion I judge the whole team on, mediocre and if he is the best we have as a number 4 we will always struggle. Score = minus Handscomb - Don't mind he has a different technique as it makes the bowlers change their line, but mediocre again. Score = minus Head - Like Harris, refreshing well worth giving time in the middle. Score = plus Paine - enough said already, shouldn't be in the team. Score = minus Cummins - Down on pace, not as effective as he was & no longer that fierce wicket taking pace, OK with the bat but we need bowlers to .be primary bowlers. Score = minus Starc - Struggling with the work load & would OK if a pace all rounder was included to take some of the load. However score is based on this team selection. Score = minus Lyon - What can you say about this player, the only tall poppy left & still growing. Should be batting ahead of Cummnins. Score = A plus Hazelwood - Good solid performance, the only pace bowler to perform as he should. Needs 2 good pace men to support him. Based on the above is why I think test cricket has a long dark future. Until we good leadership from the top, stop this old school tie nonsense & put the current & future interests of cricket first, we will continue to struggle. Re lack of crowds for test matches, I sent CA an email when they first announced the channel 7 / Foxtel deal, telling them it was a big mistake. They isolated the majority of the public from watching these lead up matches, which in turn decreases the public interest in cricket overall, End result, no bums on seats. Have fun with the above jaszyjim Paine - enough said already, shouldn't be in the team.
Score = minus.
On what do you base that assumption? As a captain he asserts absolutely no authority on the game. Wicket keeper captains have a problem in that they are too busy to keep up with everything happening all the time. A captain at first slip or so can make changes far more readily than a captain thinking about whats got to happen behind the wicket. At best, as the commentators said "an accidental captain" As a wicket keeper batsman, his batting is far below par for what is required these days & someone like Wade would be knocking seriously on the door if CA had not made the mistake of making Paine captain. A score on just minus is too high for Paine. jaszyjim
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+x+xDisappointed at team selection but not unexpected. Here's my take on where we are at, leading into the Perth test from the top. CA board - New board, no improvement, lack of statements compared to old board even you did not agree. In fact they are so silent ,do we have someone leading cricket at the moment, seems no better if not worse than before. Score = minus Selectors - Based on the current selections far worse than before, how can you go into a Perth test, will be mid 40's plus on the ground and no pace all rounder, especially with the suspect pace attack we have as mentioned by others. Adelaide proved that the bowlers cannot maintain the effort without another to share the load. Score = minus Coach - Justin was one of my all time favourite batsman & I had in my test team long before he actually was. As a coach he can talk the talk but the only walking is the batsman getting out & walking off. Score = ? Captain - Paine is not a captain for a test side. The previous selectors made a huge mistake in making him captain & the new lot did not address it. If he was not captain, he would not be in the side as a wicket keeper batsman & CA has made a rod for their own back, as to sack him is to proves they were wrong. Score = minus Vice captain - Do we have one? Score = minus Finch - I assume they are hoping he will turn into a Watson / Warner type player, with a view as a future possible captain. Won't work, he is not a test player, get rid of him. Score = minus Harris - Refreshing & good technique, needs time and well worth giving it to him. Score = plus Khawaja - An enigma, so much talent but still goes out to the same delivery, would much rather see him open. Score = plus Marsh - The person whose inclusion I judge the whole team on, mediocre and if he is the best we have as a number 4 we will always struggle. Score = minus Handscomb - Don't mind he has a different technique as it makes the bowlers change their line, but mediocre again. Score = minus Head - Like Harris, refreshing well worth giving time in the middle. Score = plus Paine - enough said already, shouldn't be in the team. Score = minus Cummins - Down on pace, not as effective as he was & no longer that fierce wicket taking pace, OK with the bat but we need bowlers to .be primary bowlers. Score = minus Starc - Struggling with the work load & would OK if a pace all rounder was included to take some of the load. However score is based on this team selection. Score = minus Lyon - What can you say about this player, the only tall poppy left & still growing. Should be batting ahead of Cummnins. Score = A plus Hazelwood - Good solid performance, the only pace bowler to perform as he should. Needs 2 good pace men to support him. Based on the above is why I think test cricket has a long dark future. Until we good leadership from the top, stop this old school tie nonsense & put the current & future interests of cricket first, we will continue to struggle. Re lack of crowds for test matches, I sent CA an email when they first announced the channel 7 / Foxtel deal, telling them it was a big mistake. They isolated the majority of the public from watching these lead up matches, which in turn decreases the public interest in cricket overall, End result, no bums on seats. Have fun with the above jaszyjim Paine - enough said already, shouldn't be in the team.
Score = minus.
On what do you base that assumption? I'd like to know this too. Has led the team well, is the best keeper in Aus and has batted with a higher average than any other keeper apart from Gilchrist.
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huge tactical question: if jadeja doesn't threaten then batting time will pay huge dividends in this test
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+x+x+xDisappointed at team selection but not unexpected. Here's my take on where we are at, leading into the Perth test from the top. CA board - New board, no improvement, lack of statements compared to old board even you did not agree. In fact they are so silent ,do we have someone leading cricket at the moment, seems no better if not worse than before. Score = minus Selectors - Based on the current selections far worse than before, how can you go into a Perth test, will be mid 40's plus on the ground and no pace all rounder, especially with the suspect pace attack we have as mentioned by others. Adelaide proved that the bowlers cannot maintain the effort without another to share the load. Score = minus Coach - Justin was one of my all time favourite batsman & I had in my test team long before he actually was. As a coach he can talk the talk but the only walking is the batsman getting out & walking off. Score = ? Captain - Paine is not a captain for a test side. The previous selectors made a huge mistake in making him captain & the new lot did not address it. If he was not captain, he would not be in the side as a wicket keeper batsman & CA has made a rod for their own back, as to sack him is to proves they were wrong. Score = minus Vice captain - Do we have one? Score = minus Finch - I assume they are hoping he will turn into a Watson / Warner type player, with a view as a future possible captain. Won't work, he is not a test player, get rid of him. Score = minus Harris - Refreshing & good technique, needs time and well worth giving it to him. Score = plus Khawaja - An enigma, so much talent but still goes out to the same delivery, would much rather see him open. Score = plus Marsh - The person whose inclusion I judge the whole team on, mediocre and if he is the best we have as a number 4 we will always struggle. Score = minus Handscomb - Don't mind he has a different technique as it makes the bowlers change their line, but mediocre again. Score = minus Head - Like Harris, refreshing well worth giving time in the middle. Score = plus Paine - enough said already, shouldn't be in the team. Score = minus Cummins - Down on pace, not as effective as he was & no longer that fierce wicket taking pace, OK with the bat but we need bowlers to .be primary bowlers. Score = minus Starc - Struggling with the work load & would OK if a pace all rounder was included to take some of the load. However score is based on this team selection. Score = minus Lyon - What can you say about this player, the only tall poppy left & still growing. Should be batting ahead of Cummnins. Score = A plus Hazelwood - Good solid performance, the only pace bowler to perform as he should. Needs 2 good pace men to support him. Based on the above is why I think test cricket has a long dark future. Until we good leadership from the top, stop this old school tie nonsense & put the current & future interests of cricket first, we will continue to struggle. Re lack of crowds for test matches, I sent CA an email when they first announced the channel 7 / Foxtel deal, telling them it was a big mistake. They isolated the majority of the public from watching these lead up matches, which in turn decreases the public interest in cricket overall, End result, no bums on seats. Have fun with the above jaszyjim Paine - enough said already, shouldn't be in the team.
Score = minus.
On what do you base that assumption? As a captain he asserts absolutely no authority on the game. Wicket keeper captains have a problem in that they are too busy to keep up with everything happening all the time. A captain at first slip or so can make changes far more readily than a captain thinking about whats got to happen behind the wicket. At best, as the commentators said "an accidental captain" As a wicket keeper batsman, his batting is far below par for what is required these days & someone like Wade would be knocking seriously on the door if CA had not made the mistake of making Paine captain. A score on just minus is too high for Paine. jaszyjim Paine is the better keeper by far. But Tasmanian selectors made the same call as you. A few games ago Paine had a Test batting average of 40, which few current specialist batters can boast.
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+x+x+x+xDisappointed at team selection but not unexpected. Here's my take on where we are at, leading into the Perth test from the top. CA board - New board, no improvement, lack of statements compared to old board even you did not agree. In fact they are so silent ,do we have someone leading cricket at the moment, seems no better if not worse than before. Score = minus Selectors - Based on the current selections far worse than before, how can you go into a Perth test, will be mid 40's plus on the ground and no pace all rounder, especially with the suspect pace attack we have as mentioned by others. Adelaide proved that the bowlers cannot maintain the effort without another to share the load. Score = minus Coach - Justin was one of my all time favourite batsman & I had in my test team long before he actually was. As a coach he can talk the talk but the only walking is the batsman getting out & walking off. Score = ? Captain - Paine is not a captain for a test side. The previous selectors made a huge mistake in making him captain & the new lot did not address it. If he was not captain, he would not be in the side as a wicket keeper batsman & CA has made a rod for their own back, as to sack him is to proves they were wrong. Score = minus Vice captain - Do we have one? Score = minus Finch - I assume they are hoping he will turn into a Watson / Warner type player, with a view as a future possible captain. Won't work, he is not a test player, get rid of him. Score = minus Harris - Refreshing & good technique, needs time and well worth giving it to him. Score = plus Khawaja - An enigma, so much talent but still goes out to the same delivery, would much rather see him open. Score = plus Marsh - The person whose inclusion I judge the whole team on, mediocre and if he is the best we have as a number 4 we will always struggle. Score = minus Handscomb - Don't mind he has a different technique as it makes the bowlers change their line, but mediocre again. Score = minus Head - Like Harris, refreshing well worth giving time in the middle. Score = plus Paine - enough said already, shouldn't be in the team. Score = minus Cummins - Down on pace, not as effective as he was & no longer that fierce wicket taking pace, OK with the bat but we need bowlers to .be primary bowlers. Score = minus Starc - Struggling with the work load & would OK if a pace all rounder was included to take some of the load. However score is based on this team selection. Score = minus Lyon - What can you say about this player, the only tall poppy left & still growing. Should be batting ahead of Cummnins. Score = A plus Hazelwood - Good solid performance, the only pace bowler to perform as he should. Needs 2 good pace men to support him. Based on the above is why I think test cricket has a long dark future. Until we good leadership from the top, stop this old school tie nonsense & put the current & future interests of cricket first, we will continue to struggle. Re lack of crowds for test matches, I sent CA an email when they first announced the channel 7 / Foxtel deal, telling them it was a big mistake. They isolated the majority of the public from watching these lead up matches, which in turn decreases the public interest in cricket overall, End result, no bums on seats. Have fun with the above jaszyjim Paine - enough said already, shouldn't be in the team.
Score = minus.
On what do you base that assumption? As a captain he asserts absolutely no authority on the game. Wicket keeper captains have a problem in that they are too busy to keep up with everything happening all the time. A captain at first slip or so can make changes far more readily than a captain thinking about whats got to happen behind the wicket. At best, as the commentators said "an accidental captain" As a wicket keeper batsman, his batting is far below par for what is required these days & someone like Wade would be knocking seriously on the door if CA had not made the mistake of making Paine captain. A score on just minus is too high for Paine. jaszyjim Paine is the better keeper by far. But Tasmanian selectors made the same call as you. A few games ago Paine had a Test batting average of 40, which few current specialist batters can boast. Paine's trucking along more than fine.
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+x+x+xDisappointed at team selection but not unexpected. Here's my take on where we are at, leading into the Perth test from the top. CA board - New board, no improvement, lack of statements compared to old board even you did not agree. In fact they are so silent ,do we have someone leading cricket at the moment, seems no better if not worse than before. Score = minus Selectors - Based on the current selections far worse than before, how can you go into a Perth test, will be mid 40's plus on the ground and no pace all rounder, especially with the suspect pace attack we have as mentioned by others. Adelaide proved that the bowlers cannot maintain the effort without another to share the load. Score = minus Coach - Justin was one of my all time favourite batsman & I had in my test team long before he actually was. As a coach he can talk the talk but the only walking is the batsman getting out & walking off. Score = ? Captain - Paine is not a captain for a test side. The previous selectors made a huge mistake in making him captain & the new lot did not address it. If he was not captain, he would not be in the side as a wicket keeper batsman & CA has made a rod for their own back, as to sack him is to proves they were wrong. Score = minus Vice captain - Do we have one? Score = minus Finch - I assume they are hoping he will turn into a Watson / Warner type player, with a view as a future possible captain. Won't work, he is not a test player, get rid of him. Score = minus Harris - Refreshing & good technique, needs time and well worth giving it to him. Score = plus Khawaja - An enigma, so much talent but still goes out to the same delivery, would much rather see him open. Score = plus Marsh - The person whose inclusion I judge the whole team on, mediocre and if he is the best we have as a number 4 we will always struggle. Score = minus Handscomb - Don't mind he has a different technique as it makes the bowlers change their line, but mediocre again. Score = minus Head - Like Harris, refreshing well worth giving time in the middle. Score = plus Paine - enough said already, shouldn't be in the team. Score = minus Cummins - Down on pace, not as effective as he was & no longer that fierce wicket taking pace, OK with the bat but we need bowlers to .be primary bowlers. Score = minus Starc - Struggling with the work load & would OK if a pace all rounder was included to take some of the load. However score is based on this team selection. Score = minus Lyon - What can you say about this player, the only tall poppy left & still growing. Should be batting ahead of Cummnins. Score = A plus Hazelwood - Good solid performance, the only pace bowler to perform as he should. Needs 2 good pace men to support him. Based on the above is why I think test cricket has a long dark future. Until we good leadership from the top, stop this old school tie nonsense & put the current & future interests of cricket first, we will continue to struggle. Re lack of crowds for test matches, I sent CA an email when they first announced the channel 7 / Foxtel deal, telling them it was a big mistake. They isolated the majority of the public from watching these lead up matches, which in turn decreases the public interest in cricket overall, End result, no bums on seats. Have fun with the above jaszyjim Paine - enough said already, shouldn't be in the team.
Score = minus.
On what do you base that assumption? As a captain he asserts absolutely no authority on the game. Wicket keeper captains have a problem in that they are too busy to keep up with everything happening all the time. A captain at first slip or so can make changes far more readily than a captain thinking about whats got to happen behind the wicket. At best, as the commentators said "an accidental captain" As a wicket keeper batsman, his batting is far below par for what is required these days & someone like Wade would be knocking seriously on the door if CA had not made the mistake of making Paine captain. A score on just minus is too high for Paine. jaszyjim Paine would keep Wade under the table. The first consideration when picking a #7 is his ability as a gloveman. Batting is secondary. Without going thru Tim's last 10 innings.. I am confident he has contributed meaningful runs on every occasion. If you want confirmation link with cricinfo. Paine took over the reins at a difficult time. Is rare in Oz cricket for the keeper to be captain. Imho he has done a good job.. There is no bulls*** with Tim. When he says he wants our boys to play hard but fair with no personal sledging. They listen. He has earned the respect and endorsement of his team mates. He can do no more. If I have one tiny criticism it his he sometimes does not use the DRS when he should. Plus he is crap at the toss. He gets an A pass mark from me..
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+x+x+x+xDisappointed at team selection but not unexpected. Here's my take on where we are at, leading into the Perth test from the top. CA board - New board, no improvement, lack of statements compared to old board even you did not agree. In fact they are so silent ,do we have someone leading cricket at the moment, seems no better if not worse than before. Score = minus Selectors - Based on the current selections far worse than before, how can you go into a Perth test, will be mid 40's plus on the ground and no pace all rounder, especially with the suspect pace attack we have as mentioned by others. Adelaide proved that the bowlers cannot maintain the effort without another to share the load. Score = minus Coach - Justin was one of my all time favourite batsman & I had in my test team long before he actually was. As a coach he can talk the talk but the only walking is the batsman getting out & walking off. Score = ? Captain - Paine is not a captain for a test side. The previous selectors made a huge mistake in making him captain & the new lot did not address it. If he was not captain, he would not be in the side as a wicket keeper batsman & CA has made a rod for their own back, as to sack him is to proves they were wrong. Score = minus Vice captain - Do we have one? Score = minus Finch - I assume they are hoping he will turn into a Watson / Warner type player, with a view as a future possible captain. Won't work, he is not a test player, get rid of him. Score = minus Harris - Refreshing & good technique, needs time and well worth giving it to him. Score = plus Khawaja - An enigma, so much talent but still goes out to the same delivery, would much rather see him open. Score = plus Marsh - The person whose inclusion I judge the whole team on, mediocre and if he is the best we have as a number 4 we will always struggle. Score = minus Handscomb - Don't mind he has a different technique as it makes the bowlers change their line, but mediocre again. Score = minus Head - Like Harris, refreshing well worth giving time in the middle. Score = plus Paine - enough said already, shouldn't be in the team. Score = minus Cummins - Down on pace, not as effective as he was & no longer that fierce wicket taking pace, OK with the bat but we need bowlers to .be primary bowlers. Score = minus Starc - Struggling with the work load & would OK if a pace all rounder was included to take some of the load. However score is based on this team selection. Score = minus Lyon - What can you say about this player, the only tall poppy left & still growing. Should be batting ahead of Cummnins. Score = A plus Hazelwood - Good solid performance, the only pace bowler to perform as he should. Needs 2 good pace men to support him. Based on the above is why I think test cricket has a long dark future. Until we good leadership from the top, stop this old school tie nonsense & put the current & future interests of cricket first, we will continue to struggle. Re lack of crowds for test matches, I sent CA an email when they first announced the channel 7 / Foxtel deal, telling them it was a big mistake. They isolated the majority of the public from watching these lead up matches, which in turn decreases the public interest in cricket overall, End result, no bums on seats. Have fun with the above jaszyjim Paine - enough said already, shouldn't be in the team.
Score = minus.
On what do you base that assumption? As a captain he asserts absolutely no authority on the game. Wicket keeper captains have a problem in that they are too busy to keep up with everything happening all the time. A captain at first slip or so can make changes far more readily than a captain thinking about whats got to happen behind the wicket. At best, as the commentators said "an accidental captain" As a wicket keeper batsman, his batting is far below par for what is required these days & someone like Wade would be knocking seriously on the door if CA had not made the mistake of making Paine captain. A score on just minus is too high for Paine. jaszyjim Paine would keep Wade under the table. The first consideration when picking a #7 is his ability as a gloveman. Batting is secondary. Without going thru Tim's last 10 innings.. I am confident he has contributed meaningful runs on every occasion. If you want confirmation link with cricinfo. Paine took over the reins at a difficult time. Is rare in Oz cricket for the keeper to be captain. Imho he has done a good job with the reins. There is no bulls*** with Tim. When he says he wants our boys to play hard but fair with no personal sledging. They listen. If I have one tiny criticism it his he sometimes does not the use of the DRS when he should. Plus his crap calling at the toss. Obviously I don't agree, he is typical of the majority of the team & is mediocre at best. Taken over when he did is tough, but that's tough the captain still has to captain & he doesn't do it well enough to make a match winning difference.. So it will just have to be, we agree to disagree. An interesting thought is, if a world 11>15 was picked other then Lyon no one else would make it. If the world captains & keepers were rated, Paine probably would not make the top ten in either. jaszyjim
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huge toss to win I reckon
weather looks cooler and overcast next few days
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+x+x+x+x+xDisappointed at team selection but not unexpected. Here's my take on where we are at, leading into the Perth test from the top. CA board - New board, no improvement, lack of statements compared to old board even you did not agree. In fact they are so silent ,do we have someone leading cricket at the moment, seems no better if not worse than before. Score = minus Selectors - Based on the current selections far worse than before, how can you go into a Perth test, will be mid 40's plus on the ground and no pace all rounder, especially with the suspect pace attack we have as mentioned by others. Adelaide proved that the bowlers cannot maintain the effort without another to share the load. Score = minus Coach - Justin was one of my all time favourite batsman & I had in my test team long before he actually was. As a coach he can talk the talk but the only walking is the batsman getting out & walking off. Score = ? Captain - Paine is not a captain for a test side. The previous selectors made a huge mistake in making him captain & the new lot did not address it. If he was not captain, he would not be in the side as a wicket keeper batsman & CA has made a rod for their own back, as to sack him is to proves they were wrong. Score = minus Vice captain - Do we have one? Score = minus Finch - I assume they are hoping he will turn into a Watson / Warner type player, with a view as a future possible captain. Won't work, he is not a test player, get rid of him. Score = minus Harris - Refreshing & good technique, needs time and well worth giving it to him. Score = plus Khawaja - An enigma, so much talent but still goes out to the same delivery, would much rather see him open. Score = plus Marsh - The person whose inclusion I judge the whole team on, mediocre and if he is the best we have as a number 4 we will always struggle. Score = minus Handscomb - Don't mind he has a different technique as it makes the bowlers change their line, but mediocre again. Score = minus Head - Like Harris, refreshing well worth giving time in the middle. Score = plus Paine - enough said already, shouldn't be in the team. Score = minus Cummins - Down on pace, not as effective as he was & no longer that fierce wicket taking pace, OK with the bat but we need bowlers to .be primary bowlers. Score = minus Starc - Struggling with the work load & would OK if a pace all rounder was included to take some of the load. However score is based on this team selection. Score = minus Lyon - What can you say about this player, the only tall poppy left & still growing. Should be batting ahead of Cummnins. Score = A plus Hazelwood - Good solid performance, the only pace bowler to perform as he should. Needs 2 good pace men to support him. Based on the above is why I think test cricket has a long dark future. Until we good leadership from the top, stop this old school tie nonsense & put the current & future interests of cricket first, we will continue to struggle. Re lack of crowds for test matches, I sent CA an email when they first announced the channel 7 / Foxtel deal, telling them it was a big mistake. They isolated the majority of the public from watching these lead up matches, which in turn decreases the public interest in cricket overall, End result, no bums on seats. Have fun with the above jaszyjim Paine - enough said already, shouldn't be in the team.
Score = minus.
On what do you base that assumption? As a captain he asserts absolutely no authority on the game. Wicket keeper captains have a problem in that they are too busy to keep up with everything happening all the time. A captain at first slip or so can make changes far more readily than a captain thinking about whats got to happen behind the wicket. At best, as the commentators said "an accidental captain" As a wicket keeper batsman, his batting is far below par for what is required these days & someone like Wade would be knocking seriously on the door if CA had not made the mistake of making Paine captain. A score on just minus is too high for Paine. jaszyjim Paine would keep Wade under the table. The first consideration when picking a #7 is his ability as a gloveman. Batting is secondary. Without going thru Tim's last 10 innings.. I am confident he has contributed meaningful runs on every occasion. If you want confirmation link with cricinfo. Paine took over the reins at a difficult time. Is rare in Oz cricket for the keeper to be captain. Imho he has done a good job with the reins. There is no bulls*** with Tim. When he says he wants our boys to play hard but fair with no personal sledging. They listen. If I have one tiny criticism it his he sometimes does not the use of the DRS when he should. Plus his crap calling at the toss. Obviously I don't agree, he is typical of the majority of the team & is mediocre at best. Taken over when he did is tough, but that's tough the captain still has to captain & he doesn't do it well enough to make a match winning difference.. So it will just have to be, we agree to disagree. An interesting thought is, if a world 11>15 was picked other then Lyon no one else would make it. If the world captains & keepers were rated, Paine probably would not make the top ten in either. jaszyjim I doubt Lyon makes it either to be fair... Paine isn't doing badly. Sure - Ben Foakes right now has all the headlines (and Bairstow and Buttler in England as well), Watling is still producing those famous fighting innings, but QdK has gone right off the boil, Pant has terrible hands despite his batting talent, Sarfaraz is more than useful as is Mushfiqur. But Paine is hardly not performing. And he is there or there abouts with world keepers right now with Ben Foakes being the new sensation.
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+x+x+xDisappointed at team selection but not unexpected. Here's my take on where we are at, leading into the Perth test from the top. CA board - New board, no improvement, lack of statements compared to old board even you did not agree. In fact they are so silent ,do we have someone leading cricket at the moment, seems no better if not worse than before. Score = minus Selectors - Based on the current selections far worse than before, how can you go into a Perth test, will be mid 40's plus on the ground and no pace all rounder, especially with the suspect pace attack we have as mentioned by others. Adelaide proved that the bowlers cannot maintain the effort without another to share the load. Score = minus Coach - Justin was one of my all time favourite batsman & I had in my test team long before he actually was. As a coach he can talk the talk but the only walking is the batsman getting out & walking off. Score = ? Captain - Paine is not a captain for a test side. The previous selectors made a huge mistake in making him captain & the new lot did not address it. If he was not captain, he would not be in the side as a wicket keeper batsman & CA has made a rod for their own back, as to sack him is to proves they were wrong. Score = minus Vice captain - Do we have one? Score = minus Finch - I assume they are hoping he will turn into a Watson / Warner type player, with a view as a future possible captain. Won't work, he is not a test player, get rid of him. Score = minus Harris - Refreshing & good technique, needs time and well worth giving it to him. Score = plus Khawaja - An enigma, so much talent but still goes out to the same delivery, would much rather see him open. Score = plus Marsh - The person whose inclusion I judge the whole team on, mediocre and if he is the best we have as a number 4 we will always struggle. Score = minus Handscomb - Don't mind he has a different technique as it makes the bowlers change their line, but mediocre again. Score = minus Head - Like Harris, refreshing well worth giving time in the middle. Score = plus Paine - enough said already, shouldn't be in the team. Score = minus Cummins - Down on pace, not as effective as he was & no longer that fierce wicket taking pace, OK with the bat but we need bowlers to .be primary bowlers. Score = minus Starc - Struggling with the work load & would OK if a pace all rounder was included to take some of the load. However score is based on this team selection. Score = minus Lyon - What can you say about this player, the only tall poppy left & still growing. Should be batting ahead of Cummnins. Score = A plus Hazelwood - Good solid performance, the only pace bowler to perform as he should. Needs 2 good pace men to support him. Based on the above is why I think test cricket has a long dark future. Until we good leadership from the top, stop this old school tie nonsense & put the current & future interests of cricket first, we will continue to struggle. Re lack of crowds for test matches, I sent CA an email when they first announced the channel 7 / Foxtel deal, telling them it was a big mistake. They isolated the majority of the public from watching these lead up matches, which in turn decreases the public interest in cricket overall, End result, no bums on seats. Have fun with the above jaszyjim Paine - enough said already, shouldn't be in the team.
Score = minus.
On what do you base that assumption? At best, as the commentators said "an accidental captain" He has led the Tasmanian team well at times in the absence others. In his previous Test games he was anointed as a future Aussie captain. Paine is far more mature and has better leadership qualities than Steve Smith - who cheated. He may be our best captain since Mark Taylor. Rick Ponting has suggested Australian cricket would be stronger if a lot of former players got out of the commentary box and involved themselves in coaching, rather than diagnosing problems from the armchair.
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+xhuge toss to win I reckon weather looks cooler and overcast next few days if jadeja doesn't threaten and india don't take early wickets their attack could tire Jadeja is not playing. India have gone with Yadav....
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+x+xhuge toss to win I reckon weather looks cooler and overcast next few days if jadeja doesn't threaten and india don't take early wickets their attack could tire Jadeja is not playing. India have gone with Yadav.... then if we have wickets in hand by tea india will tire even quicker Put in the work in the first 2 sessions and we could cash in
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+x+x+xhuge toss to win I reckon weather looks cooler and overcast next few days if jadeja doesn't threaten and india don't take early wickets their attack could tire Jadeja is not playing. India have gone with Yadav.... then if we have wickets in hand by tea india will tire even quicker Put in the work in the first 2 sessions and we could cash in Doubtful... Vihari bowls finger spin... Virat will want 20 overs each from his four pace men - 10 overs of spin... (at least that is what I'd do). Bumrah gets through his overs fast... Yadav is rocks and diamonds... leaks a lot of runs...
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+xCummins - Down on pace, not as effective as he was & no longer that fierce wicket taking pace, OK with the bat but we need bowlers to .be primary bowlers. Score = minus Hazelwood - Good solid performance, the only pace bowler to perform as he should. Needs 2 good pace men to support him. Cummins would benefit being used in shorter spells. What he extracted out of lifeless pitches in Asia last year was amazing! His line is usually good, but he was bowling faster a year ago. Hazlewood is also bowling well. Starc bowled poorly by his own standards in the last test, but was lucky in terms of taking wickets. Our attack's only problem beside Starc's poor form, is stamina over long opposition innings. They also have a struggling batting line up to defend their good bowling performances. I agree with you we could do with a bowling all rounder to support the attack and ease the workload .
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+x+x+x+xDisappointed at team selection but not unexpected. Here's my take on where we are at, leading into the Perth test from the top. CA board - New board, no improvement, lack of statements compared to old board even you did not agree. In fact they are so silent ,do we have someone leading cricket at the moment, seems no better if not worse than before. Score = minus Selectors - Based on the current selections far worse than before, how can you go into a Perth test, will be mid 40's plus on the ground and no pace all rounder, especially with the suspect pace attack we have as mentioned by others. Adelaide proved that the bowlers cannot maintain the effort without another to share the load. Score = minus Coach - Justin was one of my all time favourite batsman & I had in my test team long before he actually was. As a coach he can talk the talk but the only walking is the batsman getting out & walking off. Score = ? Captain - Paine is not a captain for a test side. The previous selectors made a huge mistake in making him captain & the new lot did not address it. If he was not captain, he would not be in the side as a wicket keeper batsman & CA has made a rod for their own back, as to sack him is to proves they were wrong. Score = minus Vice captain - Do we have one? Score = minus Finch - I assume they are hoping he will turn into a Watson / Warner type player, with a view as a future possible captain. Won't work, he is not a test player, get rid of him. Score = minus Harris - Refreshing & good technique, needs time and well worth giving it to him. Score = plus Khawaja - An enigma, so much talent but still goes out to the same delivery, would much rather see him open. Score = plus Marsh - The person whose inclusion I judge the whole team on, mediocre and if he is the best we have as a number 4 we will always struggle. Score = minus Handscomb - Don't mind he has a different technique as it makes the bowlers change their line, but mediocre again. Score = minus Head - Like Harris, refreshing well worth giving time in the middle. Score = plus Paine - enough said already, shouldn't be in the team. Score = minus Cummins - Down on pace, not as effective as he was & no longer that fierce wicket taking pace, OK with the bat but we need bowlers to .be primary bowlers. Score = minus Starc - Struggling with the work load & would OK if a pace all rounder was included to take some of the load. However score is based on this team selection. Score = minus Lyon - What can you say about this player, the only tall poppy left & still growing. Should be batting ahead of Cummnins. Score = A plus Hazelwood - Good solid performance, the only pace bowler to perform as he should. Needs 2 good pace men to support him. Based on the above is why I think test cricket has a long dark future. Until we good leadership from the top, stop this old school tie nonsense & put the current & future interests of cricket first, we will continue to struggle. Re lack of crowds for test matches, I sent CA an email when they first announced the channel 7 / Foxtel deal, telling them it was a big mistake. They isolated the majority of the public from watching these lead up matches, which in turn decreases the public interest in cricket overall, End result, no bums on seats. Have fun with the above jaszyjim Paine - enough said already, shouldn't be in the team.
Score = minus.
On what do you base that assumption? As a captain he asserts absolutely no authority on the game. Wicket keeper captains have a problem in that they are too busy to keep up with everything happening all the time. A captain at first slip or so can make changes far more readily than a captain thinking about whats got to happen behind the wicket. At best, as the commentators said "an accidental captain" As a wicket keeper batsman, his batting is far below par for what is required these days & someone like Wade would be knocking seriously on the door if CA had not made the mistake of making Paine captain. A score on just minus is too high for Paine. jaszyjim Paine would keep Wade under the table. The first consideration when picking a #7 is his ability as a gloveman. Batting is secondary. Without going thru Tim's last 10 innings.. I am confident he has contributed meaningful runs on every occasion. If you want confirmation link with cricinfo. Paine took over the reins at a difficult time. Is rare in Oz cricket for the keeper to be captain. Imho he has done a good job.. There is no bulls*** with Tim. When he says he wants our boys to play hard but fair with no personal sledging. They listen. He has earned the respect and endorsement of his team mates. He can do no more. If I have one tiny criticism it his he sometimes does not use the DRS when he should. Plus he is crap at the toss. He gets an A pass mark from me.. I reckon Tim has boo booed not giving our quicks first use of this greenie.
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+x+x+x+x+xDisappointed at team selection but not unexpected. Here's my take on where we are at, leading into the Perth test from the top. CA board - New board, no improvement, lack of statements compared to old board even you did not agree. In fact they are so silent ,do we have someone leading cricket at the moment, seems no better if not worse than before. Score = minus Selectors - Based on the current selections far worse than before, how can you go into a Perth test, will be mid 40's plus on the ground and no pace all rounder, especially with the suspect pace attack we have as mentioned by others. Adelaide proved that the bowlers cannot maintain the effort without another to share the load. Score = minus Coach - Justin was one of my all time favourite batsman & I had in my test team long before he actually was. As a coach he can talk the talk but the only walking is the batsman getting out & walking off. Score = ? Captain - Paine is not a captain for a test side. The previous selectors made a huge mistake in making him captain & the new lot did not address it. If he was not captain, he would not be in the side as a wicket keeper batsman & CA has made a rod for their own back, as to sack him is to proves they were wrong. Score = minus Vice captain - Do we have one? Score = minus Finch - I assume they are hoping he will turn into a Watson / Warner type player, with a view as a future possible captain. Won't work, he is not a test player, get rid of him. Score = minus Harris - Refreshing & good technique, needs time and well worth giving it to him. Score = plus Khawaja - An enigma, so much talent but still goes out to the same delivery, would much rather see him open. Score = plus Marsh - The person whose inclusion I judge the whole team on, mediocre and if he is the best we have as a number 4 we will always struggle. Score = minus Handscomb - Don't mind he has a different technique as it makes the bowlers change their line, but mediocre again. Score = minus Head - Like Harris, refreshing well worth giving time in the middle. Score = plus Paine - enough said already, shouldn't be in the team. Score = minus Cummins - Down on pace, not as effective as he was & no longer that fierce wicket taking pace, OK with the bat but we need bowlers to .be primary bowlers. Score = minus Starc - Struggling with the work load & would OK if a pace all rounder was included to take some of the load. However score is based on this team selection. Score = minus Lyon - What can you say about this player, the only tall poppy left & still growing. Should be batting ahead of Cummnins. Score = A plus Hazelwood - Good solid performance, the only pace bowler to perform as he should. Needs 2 good pace men to support him. Based on the above is why I think test cricket has a long dark future. Until we good leadership from the top, stop this old school tie nonsense & put the current & future interests of cricket first, we will continue to struggle. Re lack of crowds for test matches, I sent CA an email when they first announced the channel 7 / Foxtel deal, telling them it was a big mistake. They isolated the majority of the public from watching these lead up matches, which in turn decreases the public interest in cricket overall, End result, no bums on seats. Have fun with the above jaszyjim Paine - enough said already, shouldn't be in the team.
Score = minus.
On what do you base that assumption? As a captain he asserts absolutely no authority on the game. Wicket keeper captains have a problem in that they are too busy to keep up with everything happening all the time. A captain at first slip or so can make changes far more readily than a captain thinking about whats got to happen behind the wicket. At best, as the commentators said "an accidental captain" As a wicket keeper batsman, his batting is far below par for what is required these days & someone like Wade would be knocking seriously on the door if CA had not made the mistake of making Paine captain. A score on just minus is too high for Paine. jaszyjim Paine would keep Wade under the table. The first consideration when picking a #7 is his ability as a gloveman. Batting is secondary. Without going thru Tim's last 10 innings.. I am confident he has contributed meaningful runs on every occasion. If you want confirmation link with cricinfo. Paine took over the reins at a difficult time. Is rare in Oz cricket for the keeper to be captain. Imho he has done a good job.. There is no bulls*** with Tim. When he says he wants our boys to play hard but fair with no personal sledging. They listen. He has earned the respect and endorsement of his team mates. He can do no more. If I have one tiny criticism it his he sometimes does not use the DRS when he should. Plus he is crap at the toss. He gets an A pass mark from me.. I reckon Tim has boo booed not giving our quicks first use of this greenie. Cracks could become much more an issue... hence both teams wanted to bat first...
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+x+x+x+x+x+xDisappointed at team selection but not unexpected. Here's my take on where we are at, leading into the Perth test from the top. CA board - New board, no improvement, lack of statements compared to old board even you did not agree. In fact they are so silent ,do we have someone leading cricket at the moment, seems no better if not worse than before. Score = minus Selectors - Based on the current selections far worse than before, how can you go into a Perth test, will be mid 40's plus on the ground and no pace all rounder, especially with the suspect pace attack we have as mentioned by others. Adelaide proved that the bowlers cannot maintain the effort without another to share the load. Score = minus Coach - Justin was one of my all time favourite batsman & I had in my test team long before he actually was. As a coach he can talk the talk but the only walking is the batsman getting out & walking off. Score = ? Captain - Paine is not a captain for a test side. The previous selectors made a huge mistake in making him captain & the new lot did not address it. If he was not captain, he would not be in the side as a wicket keeper batsman & CA has made a rod for their own back, as to sack him is to proves they were wrong. Score = minus Vice captain - Do we have one? Score = minus Finch - I assume they are hoping he will turn into a Watson / Warner type player, with a view as a future possible captain. Won't work, he is not a test player, get rid of him. Score = minus Harris - Refreshing & good technique, needs time and well worth giving it to him. Score = plus Khawaja - An enigma, so much talent but still goes out to the same delivery, would much rather see him open. Score = plus Marsh - The person whose inclusion I judge the whole team on, mediocre and if he is the best we have as a number 4 we will always struggle. Score = minus Handscomb - Don't mind he has a different technique as it makes the bowlers change their line, but mediocre again. Score = minus Head - Like Harris, refreshing well worth giving time in the middle. Score = plus Paine - enough said already, shouldn't be in the team. Score = minus Cummins - Down on pace, not as effective as he was & no longer that fierce wicket taking pace, OK with the bat but we need bowlers to .be primary bowlers. Score = minus Starc - Struggling with the work load & would OK if a pace all rounder was included to take some of the load. However score is based on this team selection. Score = minus Lyon - What can you say about this player, the only tall poppy left & still growing. Should be batting ahead of Cummnins. Score = A plus Hazelwood - Good solid performance, the only pace bowler to perform as he should. Needs 2 good pace men to support him. Based on the above is why I think test cricket has a long dark future. Until we good leadership from the top, stop this old school tie nonsense & put the current & future interests of cricket first, we will continue to struggle. Re lack of crowds for test matches, I sent CA an email when they first announced the channel 7 / Foxtel deal, telling them it was a big mistake. They isolated the majority of the public from watching these lead up matches, which in turn decreases the public interest in cricket overall, End result, no bums on seats. Have fun with the above jaszyjim Paine - enough said already, shouldn't be in the team.
Score = minus.
On what do you base that assumption? As a captain he asserts absolutely no authority on the game. Wicket keeper captains have a problem in that they are too busy to keep up with everything happening all the time. A captain at first slip or so can make changes far more readily than a captain thinking about whats got to happen behind the wicket. At best, as the commentators said "an accidental captain" As a wicket keeper batsman, his batting is far below par for what is required these days & someone like Wade would be knocking seriously on the door if CA had not made the mistake of making Paine captain. A score on just minus is too high for Paine. jaszyjim Paine would keep Wade under the table. The first consideration when picking a #7 is his ability as a gloveman. Batting is secondary. Without going thru Tim's last 10 innings.. I am confident he has contributed meaningful runs on every occasion. If you want confirmation link with cricinfo. Paine took over the reins at a difficult time. Is rare in Oz cricket for the keeper to be captain. Imho he has done a good job.. There is no bulls*** with Tim. When he says he wants our boys to play hard but fair with no personal sledging. They listen. He has earned the respect and endorsement of his team mates. He can do no more. If I have one tiny criticism it his he sometimes does not use the DRS when he should. Plus he is crap at the toss. He gets an A pass mark from me.. I reckon Tim has boo booed not giving our quicks first use of this greenie. Cracks could become much more an issue... hence both teams wanted to bat first... Cracks? On a green top like this. I dont think so.
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+x+x+x+xhuge toss to win I reckon weather looks cooler and overcast next few days if jadeja doesn't threaten and india don't take early wickets their attack could tire Jadeja is not playing. India have gone with Yadav.... then if we have wickets in hand by tea india will tire even quicker Put in the work in the first 2 sessions and we could cash in Doubtful... Vihari bowls finger spin... Virat will want 20 overs each from his four pace men - 10 overs of spin... (at least that is what I'd do). Bumrah gets through his overs fast... Yadav is rocks and diamonds... leaks a lot of runs... I would have gone with Kumar.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+xDisappointed at team selection but not unexpected. Here's my take on where we are at, leading into the Perth test from the top. CA board - New board, no improvement, lack of statements compared to old board even you did not agree. In fact they are so silent ,do we have someone leading cricket at the moment, seems no better if not worse than before. Score = minus Selectors - Based on the current selections far worse than before, how can you go into a Perth test, will be mid 40's plus on the ground and no pace all rounder, especially with the suspect pace attack we have as mentioned by others. Adelaide proved that the bowlers cannot maintain the effort without another to share the load. Score = minus Coach - Justin was one of my all time favourite batsman & I had in my test team long before he actually was. As a coach he can talk the talk but the only walking is the batsman getting out & walking off. Score = ? Captain - Paine is not a captain for a test side. The previous selectors made a huge mistake in making him captain & the new lot did not address it. If he was not captain, he would not be in the side as a wicket keeper batsman & CA has made a rod for their own back, as to sack him is to proves they were wrong. Score = minus Vice captain - Do we have one? Score = minus Finch - I assume they are hoping he will turn into a Watson / Warner type player, with a view as a future possible captain. Won't work, he is not a test player, get rid of him. Score = minus Harris - Refreshing & good technique, needs time and well worth giving it to him. Score = plus Khawaja - An enigma, so much talent but still goes out to the same delivery, would much rather see him open. Score = plus Marsh - The person whose inclusion I judge the whole team on, mediocre and if he is the best we have as a number 4 we will always struggle. Score = minus Handscomb - Don't mind he has a different technique as it makes the bowlers change their line, but mediocre again. Score = minus Head - Like Harris, refreshing well worth giving time in the middle. Score = plus Paine - enough said already, shouldn't be in the team. Score = minus Cummins - Down on pace, not as effective as he was & no longer that fierce wicket taking pace, OK with the bat but we need bowlers to .be primary bowlers. Score = minus Starc - Struggling with the work load & would OK if a pace all rounder was included to take some of the load. However score is based on this team selection. Score = minus Lyon - What can you say about this player, the only tall poppy left & still growing. Should be batting ahead of Cummnins. Score = A plus Hazelwood - Good solid performance, the only pace bowler to perform as he should. Needs 2 good pace men to support him. Based on the above is why I think test cricket has a long dark future. Until we good leadership from the top, stop this old school tie nonsense & put the current & future interests of cricket first, we will continue to struggle. Re lack of crowds for test matches, I sent CA an email when they first announced the channel 7 / Foxtel deal, telling them it was a big mistake. They isolated the majority of the public from watching these lead up matches, which in turn decreases the public interest in cricket overall, End result, no bums on seats. Have fun with the above jaszyjim Paine - enough said already, shouldn't be in the team.
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On what do you base that assumption? As a captain he asserts absolutely no authority on the game. Wicket keeper captains have a problem in that they are too busy to keep up with everything happening all the time. A captain at first slip or so can make changes far more readily than a captain thinking about whats got to happen behind the wicket. At best, as the commentators said "an accidental captain" As a wicket keeper batsman, his batting is far below par for what is required these days & someone like Wade would be knocking seriously on the door if CA had not made the mistake of making Paine captain. A score on just minus is too high for Paine. jaszyjim Paine would keep Wade under the table. The first consideration when picking a #7 is his ability as a gloveman. Batting is secondary. Without going thru Tim's last 10 innings.. I am confident he has contributed meaningful runs on every occasion. If you want confirmation link with cricinfo. Paine took over the reins at a difficult time. Is rare in Oz cricket for the keeper to be captain. Imho he has done a good job.. There is no bulls*** with Tim. When he says he wants our boys to play hard but fair with no personal sledging. They listen. He has earned the respect and endorsement of his team mates. He can do no more. If I have one tiny criticism it his he sometimes does not use the DRS when he should. Plus he is crap at the toss. He gets an A pass mark from me.. I reckon Tim has boo booed not giving our quicks first use of this greenie. Cracks could become much more an issue... hence both teams wanted to bat first... Cracks? On a green top like this. I dont think so. http://www.espncricinfo.com/video/clip?id=25525740Have a look for yourself...
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+xDisappointed at team selection but not unexpected. Here's my take on where we are at, leading into the Perth test from the top. CA board - New board, no improvement, lack of statements compared to old board even you did not agree. In fact they are so silent ,do we have someone leading cricket at the moment, seems no better if not worse than before. Score = minus Selectors - Based on the current selections far worse than before, how can you go into a Perth test, will be mid 40's plus on the ground and no pace all rounder, especially with the suspect pace attack we have as mentioned by others. Adelaide proved that the bowlers cannot maintain the effort without another to share the load. Score = minus Coach - Justin was one of my all time favourite batsman & I had in my test team long before he actually was. As a coach he can talk the talk but the only walking is the batsman getting out & walking off. Score = ? Captain - Paine is not a captain for a test side. The previous selectors made a huge mistake in making him captain & the new lot did not address it. If he was not captain, he would not be in the side as a wicket keeper batsman & CA has made a rod for their own back, as to sack him is to proves they were wrong. Score = minus Vice captain - Do we have one? Score = minus Finch - I assume they are hoping he will turn into a Watson / Warner type player, with a view as a future possible captain. Won't work, he is not a test player, get rid of him. Score = minus Harris - Refreshing & good technique, needs time and well worth giving it to him. Score = plus Khawaja - An enigma, so much talent but still goes out to the same delivery, would much rather see him open. Score = plus Marsh - The person whose inclusion I judge the whole team on, mediocre and if he is the best we have as a number 4 we will always struggle. Score = minus Handscomb - Don't mind he has a different technique as it makes the bowlers change their line, but mediocre again. Score = minus Head - Like Harris, refreshing well worth giving time in the middle. Score = plus Paine - enough said already, shouldn't be in the team. Score = minus Cummins - Down on pace, not as effective as he was & no longer that fierce wicket taking pace, OK with the bat but we need bowlers to .be primary bowlers. Score = minus Starc - Struggling with the work load & would OK if a pace all rounder was included to take some of the load. However score is based on this team selection. Score = minus Lyon - What can you say about this player, the only tall poppy left & still growing. Should be batting ahead of Cummnins. Score = A plus Hazelwood - Good solid performance, the only pace bowler to perform as he should. Needs 2 good pace men to support him. Based on the above is why I think test cricket has a long dark future. Until we good leadership from the top, stop this old school tie nonsense & put the current & future interests of cricket first, we will continue to struggle. Re lack of crowds for test matches, I sent CA an email when they first announced the channel 7 / Foxtel deal, telling them it was a big mistake. They isolated the majority of the public from watching these lead up matches, which in turn decreases the public interest in cricket overall, End result, no bums on seats. Have fun with the above jaszyjim Paine - enough said already, shouldn't be in the team.
Score = minus.
On what do you base that assumption? As a captain he asserts absolutely no authority on the game. Wicket keeper captains have a problem in that they are too busy to keep up with everything happening all the time. A captain at first slip or so can make changes far more readily than a captain thinking about whats got to happen behind the wicket. At best, as the commentators said "an accidental captain" As a wicket keeper batsman, his batting is far below par for what is required these days & someone like Wade would be knocking seriously on the door if CA had not made the mistake of making Paine captain. A score on just minus is too high for Paine. jaszyjim Paine would keep Wade under the table. The first consideration when picking a #7 is his ability as a gloveman. Batting is secondary. Without going thru Tim's last 10 innings.. I am confident he has contributed meaningful runs on every occasion. If you want confirmation link with cricinfo. Paine took over the reins at a difficult time. Is rare in Oz cricket for the keeper to be captain. Imho he has done a good job.. There is no bulls*** with Tim. When he says he wants our boys to play hard but fair with no personal sledging. They listen. He has earned the respect and endorsement of his team mates. He can do no more. If I have one tiny criticism it his he sometimes does not use the DRS when he should. Plus he is crap at the toss. He gets an A pass mark from me.. I reckon Tim has boo booed not giving our quicks first use of this greenie. Cracks could become much more an issue... hence both teams wanted to bat first... Cracks? On a green top like this. I dont think so. I got it amiss. Tim does say it may crack due the the sweltering conditions over the next two days. So he sees the surface as not having an overabundance of fur. It is not as green as yesterday either.
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tough conditions for batting!
Just need to survive its a heat wave!
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Finch looks shaky against the swinging ball.
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Big pressure on Yadav - I've seen enough already from Bumrah and Ishant to know Kumar would be swinging it well here.
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surprisingly agressive from australia
you want to pounce on any thing full to make sure they bowl short at perth because the ball will miss the stumps
but we are playing at a lot we don't have to
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+xsurprisingly agressive from australia you want to pounce on any thing full to make sure they bowl short at perth because the ball will miss the stumps but we are playing at a lot we don't have to I think Finch is best when he plays some shots.
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0-19 is a good start for us after that Sharma no ball.
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