Membership for 2019/2020


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SFC numbers are quite poor considering Sydney's population and the consistent success of the club. 
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Gyfox - 26 Aug 2019 4:08 PM
Western United 1,044


LMAO. 1000 giveaways at their first game no doubt




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jacksone10 - 26 Aug 2019 5:08 PM
SFC numbers are quite poor considering Sydney's population and the consistent success of the club. 

How’s Sydney's marketing?
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Surprised how low the WSW figures are. Was expecting the 12.6k to be the baseline. All the red memberships (effectively the East stand) are sold apparently.
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Burztur - 26 Aug 2019 9:12 PM
Surprised how low the WSW figures are. Was expecting the 12.6k to be the baseline. All the red memberships (effectively the East stand) are sold apparently.



Has the hike in membership cost caused some people not to renew?
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More worrying news for indy hal by the look of those numbers...
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Gyfox - 26 Aug 2019 11:09 PM
Burztur - 26 Aug 2019 9:12 PM



Has the hike in membership cost caused some people not to renew?

A small element I assume. But they club did well to manage expectations imo. The increases were not phenomenal. I haven’t done a full comparison though.
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Wanderers will have a large 'curiosity' turnout when they play a competitive match at the new Parra Stadium for the first few times. If they're not as complete shit as previous seasons they'll do ok.  
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libel - 26 Aug 2019 11:15 PM
More worrying news for indy hal by the look of those numbers...

and wouldn't you love that ....have you ever uttered a positive word ?


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miron mercedes - 27 Aug 2019 8:57 AM
libel - 26 Aug 2019 11:15 PM

....have you ever uttered a positive word ?


Yes.
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these clubs need to market the membership louder so people hear! 

take my team for example they have extended the wings for general admission plus i get a ticket to the derbies only the hardcore fans have noticed.



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Melbcityguy - 27 Aug 2019 11:50 AM
these clubs need to market the membership louder so people hear! 

take my team for example they have extended the wings for general admission plus i get a ticket to the derbies only the hardcore fans have noticed.



Well Victory has done OK in regards to membership.  Ask yourself why Melbourne City hasn't.  
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ErogenousZone - 27 Aug 2019 2:19 PM
Melbcityguy - 27 Aug 2019 11:50 AM

Well Victory has done OK in regards to membership.  Ask yourself why Melbourne City hasn't.  

Melbourne City remind me of the bad old days at Roar when fans/owners/management couldn’t see eye to eye and NOT buying a membership became a form of communication! 
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libel - 27 Aug 2019 11:33 AM
miron mercedes - 27 Aug 2019 8:57 AM

Yes.

Very droll.
Please try to keep up this level of comment/humour.
It’s much more entertaining.
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1k for WU, hmmm
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Yeah 1k for WU is slightly concerning, but to put it into perspective the Nix only have 800 or so more judging by those numbers and they’ve been around much longer. Let’s get a 2nd NZ team though ;) 

I think WUs number will build after they play for a few more friendlies..they’ve only played 1 game ever obviously, so hopefully it’s a slow burn rather than no burn at all lol.

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JayEss - 27 Aug 2019 8:21 PM

Yeah 1k for WU is slightly concerning, but to put it into perspective the Nix only have 800 or so more judging by those numbers and they’ve been around much longer. Let’s get a 2nd NZ team though ;) 

I think WUs number will build after they play for a few more friendlies..they’ve only played 1 game ever obviously, so hopefully it’s a slow burn rather than no burn at all lol.

Is there a latent market for WU to draw from or is it all taken up by Victory and to a lesser extent by City and the ex NSL clubs?
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WU are targeting a "limited time" 5k foundation memberships. You would imagine their research would place them there.
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Burztur - 28 Aug 2019 8:53 AM
WU are targeting a "limited time" 5k foundation memberships. You would imagine their research would place them there.

Is that meant to be in relation to the stadium?  A bit like the Docklands special membership category (can't remember what they're called right now), 20 years ago these started at a price of something like $10,000 per annum

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bettega - 28 Aug 2019 9:42 AM
Burztur - 28 Aug 2019 8:53 AM

Is that meant to be in relation to the stadium?  A bit like the Docklands special membership category (can't remember what they're called right now), 20 years ago these started at a price of something like $10,000 per annum

It’s in the WU thread but it’s a standard membership.
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Glory Recruit - 27 Aug 2019 5:11 PM
1k for WU, hmmm

only been on sale for a week.

bettega - 28 Aug 2019 9:42 AM

Is that meant to be in relation to the stadium?  A bit like the Docklands special membership category (can't remember what they're called right now), 20 years ago these started at a price of something like $10,000 per annum

Pretty sure its to guarantee you a seat when the stadium opens. its an extra $95 on top of the membership cost.  

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Gyfox - 27 Aug 2019 8:39 PM
JayEss - 27 Aug 2019 8:21 PM

Is there a latent market for WU to draw from or is it all taken up by Victory and to a lesser extent by City and the ex NSL clubs?

There are people interested in the club, but it's more of a 'let's wait and see' attitude at the moment and currently there isn't a lot to see. Especially regarding the stadium. Many people were left disappointed with the Heart expansion so they are understandably cautious about jumping on board straight away. 
One big issue is population density. It's simply too spread out at the moment. Long term, the reality is that the City of Wyndham is going to be were the core fanbase will be located, so as an exercise let's compare the City of Parramatta to the City of Wyndham. The City of Parramatta has a population of 251,311 and covers an area of 84km². The City of Wyndham has a similar population of 255,322 but covers an area of 542km². When WSW was introduced they only really needed to target a small physical area, whereas WU need to target a massive area to reach the same amount of people. That combined with no stadium, inadequate roads, near non-existent public transport, minimal community engagement makes it really difficulty for people to jump on board.
The western suburbs that are closer to Melbourne (within ~25km from the CBD) are already served well by MV, MC and NSL/NPL clubs. For a person living in an area like Footscray, Sunshine or St Albans, there is not really much incentive to follow WU over MV or MC at the moment. The stadium changes things a bit, but right now there isn't much incentive.

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someguyjc - 28 Aug 2019 10:11 AM
Gyfox - 27 Aug 2019 8:39 PM

There are people interested in the club, but it's more of a 'let's wait and see' attitude at the moment and currently there isn't a lot to see. Especially regarding the stadium. Many people were left disappointed with the Heart expansion so they are understandably cautious about jumping on board straight away. 
One big issue is population density. It's simply too spread out at the moment. Long term, the reality is that the City of Wyndham is going to be were the core fanbase will be located, so as an exercise let's compare the City of Parramatta to the City of Wyndham. The City of Parramatta has a population of 251,311 and covers an area of 84km². The City of Wyndham has a similar population of 255,322 but covers an area of 542km². When WSW was introduced they only really needed to target a small physical area, whereas WU need to target a massive area to reach the same amount of people. That combined with no stadium, inadequate roads, near non-existent public transport, minimal community engagement makes it really difficulty for people to jump on board.
The western suburbs that are closer to Melbourne (within ~25km from the CBD) are already served well by MV, MC and NSL/NPL clubs. For a person living in an area like Footscray, Sunshine or St Albans, there is not really much incentive to follow WU over MV or MC at the moment. The stadium changes things a bit, but right now there isn't much incentive.

Wanderers didn't target Parramatta they targeted the whole of Western Sydney because the football supporters are spread throughout the whole region which has a 2.2m population spread over 5,800 sq km.  There is a bit of research around that indicates a football catchment area in an Australian city extends to about 1hr 15m travel time from home to stadium by walk and public transport.  In Wanderers case that catchment would include the vast majority of the 2.2m population.  Parramatta itself makes up a small percentage of the clubs members.
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Gyfox - 28 Aug 2019 1:06 PM
someguyjc - 28 Aug 2019 10:11 AM

Wanderers didn't target Parramatta they targeted the whole of Western Sydney because the football supporters are spread throughout the whole region which has a 2.2m population spread over 5,800 sq km.  There is a bit of research around that indicates a football catchment area in an Australian city extends to about 1hr 15m travel time from home to stadium by walk and public transport.  In Wanderers case that catchment would include the vast majority of the 2.2m population.  Parramatta itself makes up a small percentage of the clubs members.

Absolutely. The point I was trying to make is that the council in which the WSW stadium is based has a vastly more dense population (7.5 times more dense) than WU has in Wyndham. Your correct about the surrounding councils also, WSW has adequately populated within a reasonable distance to the stadium. WU doesn't have that. They just have paddocks and no transport. It is a growing area and the population will grow, but it will be a slow growth for the club and won't really spike until the stadium is complete.

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hopefully ccm membership goes up after their win last night 
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Melbcityguy - 29 Aug 2019 10:39 AM
hopefully ccm membership goes up after their win last night 

Just saw they're apparently having a 20% off membership sale until tomorrow.

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Melbcityguy - 29 Aug 2019 10:39 AM
hopefully ccm membership goes up after their win last night 

I know the deciding factor with me spending ~$250 and committing to seeing the majority of games in person is whether the team can win an FFA cup game




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last night not count ?


Love Football

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i think i will get the $30 membership with the two tickets go to their first match 

for western united 
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Last weeks numbers but seeing how to copy across ....

Seven weeks to kick off from when these numbers where released... will update after this weeks numbers...

 
 
2018 / 19 Memberships
 
Memberships
Club
Current
Sea Start 18/19
 
18/19
17/18
16/17
15/16
14/15
AU
              3,175
            7,538
 
             8,082
            6,677
         10,099
            8,720
           9,505
Roar
              6,806
          11,134
 
           11,524
            8,664
            7,050
            5,347
         12,113
CCM
              2,262
            6,843
 
             6,843
            6,939
            6,265
            6,048
           6,242
MLC
              5,413
            9,700
 
           10,302
          10,702
         13,078
            9,278
         11,759
MLV
            17,778
          25,599
 
           26,478
          25,674
         26,251
          27,054
         24,200
Jets
              6,567
          11,224
 
           11,606
            8,578
            8,703
            9,284
         10,003
PG
              5,901
            7,408
 
           10,460
            8,540
            8,644
            7,109
           6,298
STF
              7,939
          12,750
 
           15,848
          13,779
         12,512
          13,153
         11,510
Nix
              1,854
            5,201
 
             5,671
            5,230
            4,791
            5,035
           4,185
WSW
            12,639
          15,900
 
           16,444
          17,131
         20,022
          18,349
         18,706
MU
              1,004
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
          71,338
      113,297
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      123,258
      111,914
     117,415
      109,377
    114,521
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Start of season Membership
 
      113,297
        97,032
        96,877
        89,437
       97,252



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