Ashes Third Test (22-27 August)


Ashes Third Test (22-27 August)

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JayEss - 24 Aug 2019 3:35 PM


Our batting is still a major concern overall though - luckily our bowling attack is world class.

We need a quality all rounder to give us a five prong attack to make it world class. 
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RedKat - 24 Aug 2019 11:21 AM
Absolutely superb day for Australia overall. Would be idea to get another 100 or so runs and get the lead to 400 but Ill take a 350 lead. 

359 isn't too bad.

England haven't made more than 330 odd in a successful run chase - ever. 
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Keyboard Warrior - 24 Aug 2019 10:21 PM
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We need a quality all rounder to give us a five prong attack to make it world class. 

It also helps with a sudden injury. 
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I'm looking forward to Boycott and Aggers' commentary on the radio.

Gee, Boycott is a character!

I'm sick to death of ads on FTA TV too.

Unfortunately, ABC radio is filled up on Fri and Sat nights with aerial ping pong - the sport played nowhere else in the world.
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grazorblade - 24 Aug 2019 2:34 PM
as i said the other day 174 looked a collapse but was heroic

even today when it was easier commentators have some new tech that measures the seam movement and bounce and both were greater than either of the first tests!

Saw that measurement from a new device. 
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You beauty! 

Burns caught Warner bowled Hazlewood. 

Poms 1-15. 

Pressure! 
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Cummins bowls Roy with an outswinger that hits the top of off stump!

England are in trouble at 2-15.

The next ball he nearly dismisses Denly with an outside edge. 
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Cummins' top speed these days seems to be be mid 140s.

He has a fair bit of control at his reduced speed.

I know a  a first grade cricketer who has faced Meredith in grade cricket and in  the nets, and Archer in the nets.  He said Archer has quite a bit more control than Meredith, but both are lightning fast and far too quick! 
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Can’t get used to seeing Starc not selected sitting in the stands. He has been considered Australia’s leader of the attack for quite a few years. 

Starc has never had all of Pattinson, Cummins and Hazlewood matchfit to compete against for selection in the past. 
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This is a torrid spell from Cummins and Hazlewood with the new ball.
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Poms have done well to reach 2-53. 

The Aussie attack is relentless from all four bowlers now Lyon is getting turn. 
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England really opening up a path to victory here 

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has the bowling been bad/pitch die down or are they just playing heroicly?
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gee I wish we had another 30 odd on the board to feel that bit more comfortable
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finally hazelwood gets a wicket

the bowlings been incredible as the life has gone out of the wicket

some turn though
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impressive discipline from both sides as the wicket flattens out a bit

still it will be a 4th day wicket tomorrow so Australia should be favourites and the 2nd new ball is soon

would love to get just 1 more wicket before the 2nd new ball
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grazorblade - 25 Aug 2019 4:21 AM
impressive discipline from both sides as the wicket flattens out a bit

still it will be a 4th day wicket tomorrow so Australia should be favourites and the 2nd new ball is soon

would love to get just 1 more wicket before the 2nd new ball

How did Lyon bowl, Grazor?

I went to bed at close to the end of the second session.
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grazorblade - 25 Aug 2019 2:26 AM
has the bowling been bad/pitch die down or are they just playing heroicly?

The pitch was doing quite  a bit at the start of the English second innings when the ball was new.
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Too late for this game, Paddles. 

He looks knackered! 

Have to say I was wrong.

Archer bowled with venom after a few overs. 
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grazorblade - 24 Aug 2019 2:40 PM
Would love burns in the side to partner Warner

I guess its khawaja to open next test with Harris dropped for Smith? Labu at 3?

I would have thought this to be the case too.

To quote Ian Chappell, with so many batters on both teams struggling to score in a low scoring series, low averages for some individual batters in a winning team are not the same cause for concern.
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Does anyone know if Pattinson is injured?

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?bowling_positionmax1=2;bowling_positionmin1=1;bowling_positionval1=bowling_position;class=1;filter=advanced;orderby=bowling_strike_rate;spanmin1=15+Mar+2010;spanval1=span;team=2;template=results;type=bowling

According to the last 10 years out of all the bowlers available, Pattinson is the most effective new ball bowler. Why does he have to wait till the 17th over to get an opportunity. Then gets 5 overs has 0/9, then gets taken off to give Hazlewood another go, who then gets 4 overs which have 0/18 taken off them. Talk about release of pressure. Then Hazlewood replaced by Cummins for 2 overs both maidens. We don't see Pattinson again till 40th over. So our best strike bowler with the new ball gets 5 overs in the first 40?
He then gets 5 overs return 0/10 again, then taken off again, Cummins then has 13 runs taken off his next 2 overs, he's replaced by Lyon and then Hazlewood gets 8 overs straight taking a wicket in the sixth of those overs. 
By the time we see Pattinson again it's the 64th over, so he's bowled 10 overs out of 64. What is going on.? He then gets 3 overs returns 0/4 and off again. He doesn't seem to be getting enough time to be getting his rhythm going.

He only got to bowl 5 overs 2/9 in the first innings, bowling with the new ball at 10 overs, so he can't be tired. 
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Decentric - 25 Aug 2019 9:47 AM
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How did Lyon bowl, Grazor?

I went to bed at close to the end of the second session.

Shane warne was happy he bowled a wider line but they were unhappy with the field placements giving away easy singles for the sweep on the boundary

Said their should be a silly point and a diagonal fielder 2/3rds of the way to the boundary so they have to try and over hit it. Also make long on straighter so they have to hit the ball harder to get the boundary. Warne said the harder someone has to hit the ball the better it is for you even if you get smashed occasionally

economy was excellent and there was a half chance every over from lyon mind you. It was just brilliance from both teams as the life went a touch out of the wicket. Australia still a touch in front!
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MikeR - 25 Aug 2019 10:27 AM
Does anyone know if Pattinson is injured?

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?bowling_positionmax1=2;bowling_positionmin1=1;bowling_positionval1=bowling_position;class=1;filter=advanced;orderby=bowling_strike_rate;spanmin1=15+Mar+2010;spanval1=span;team=2;template=results;type=bowling

According to the last 10 years out of all the bowlers available, Pattinson is the most effective new ball bowler. Why does he have to wait till the 17th over to get an opportunity. Then gets 5 overs has 0/9, then gets taken off to give Hazlewood another go, who then gets 4 overs which have 0/18 taken off them. Talk about release of pressure. Then Hazlewood replaced by Cummins for 2 overs both maidens. We don't see Pattinson again till 40th over. So our best strike bowler with the new ball gets 5 overs in the first 40?
He then gets 5 overs return 0/10 again, then taken off again, Cummins then has 13 runs taken off his next 2 overs, he's replaced by Lyon and then Hazlewood gets 8 overs straight taking a wicket in the sixth of those overs. 
By the time we see Pattinson again it's the 64th over, so he's bowled 10 overs out of 64. What is going on.? He then gets 3 overs returns 0/4 and off again. He doesn't seem to be getting enough time to be getting his rhythm going.

He only got to bowl 5 overs 2/9 in the first innings, bowling with the new ball at 10 overs, so he can't be tired. 

yeah I hate that cummins opens

Cummins is the best old ball bowler in the world and Pattinson is lethal with the new pill. 
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MikeR - 25 Aug 2019 10:27 AM
Does anyone know if Pattinson is injured?

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?bowling_positionmax1=2;bowling_positionmin1=1;bowling_positionval1=bowling_position;class=1;filter=advanced;orderby=bowling_strike_rate;spanmin1=15+Mar+2010;spanval1=span;team=2;template=results;type=bowling

According to the last 10 years out of all the bowlers available, Pattinson is the most effective new ball bowler. Why does he have to wait till the 17th over to get an opportunity. Then gets 5 overs has 0/9, then gets taken off to give Hazlewood another go, who then gets 4 overs which have 0/18 taken off them. Talk about release of pressure. Then Hazlewood replaced by Cummins for 2 overs both maidens. We don't see Pattinson again till 40th over. So our best strike bowler with the new ball gets 5 overs in the first 40?
He then gets 5 overs return 0/10 again, then taken off again, Cummins then has 13 runs taken off his next 2 overs, he's replaced by Lyon and then Hazlewood gets 8 overs straight taking a wicket in the sixth of those overs. 
By the time we see Pattinson again it's the 64th over, so he's bowled 10 overs out of 64. What is going on.? He then gets 3 overs returns 0/4 and off again. He doesn't seem to be getting enough time to be getting his rhythm going.

He only got to bowl 5 overs 2/9 in the first innings, bowling with the new ball at 10 overs, so he can't be tired. 

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GOAT strikes! 

Root caught Warner, bowled GOAT. 

GOAT passes Lillee, to take 356 wickets! 
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Super start with the wicket. Id be keeping Lyon and Pattinson on for a few overs rather than take the new ball immediately. Lyon bowled tidy and Pattos speeds were up and bowling a good line. The psychology of the new ball waiting too is worth it. Maybe take it 84/85 over

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England are starting to score quite quickly - now 4-213.

Geoff Boycott’s commentating is hilarious! 
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England on top now. Bowled terribly this morning 

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This new ball hasn’t helped our cause. 
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RedKat - 25 Aug 2019 9:27 PM
England on top now. Bowled terribly this morning 

We bowled really well until we took the new ball. 
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