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baggygreenmania - 13 Oct 2019 2:31 PM
MikeR - 13 Oct 2019 1:45 PM

Philippe needs to find a balance between patience and belligerence. He has masses of natural talent but keeps getting himself out rather than the bowler getting him. If you know what I mean. For instance the stroke he played here that he nicked behind..needed to be left.  It was too full to attempt that drive. But only a few balls earlier he played an exquisite drive to a similar ball but not as full. He did hit 48 in the first innings.

Plenty of batsmen find a way of getting themselves out and squander a career, Baggers.
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baggygreenmania - 13 Oct 2019 3:48 PM
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Who is your MOM Mike.  I cant go past the most improved paceman in the country imho.. Harry Conway. 34 overs 10/56..pretty impressive. 

Special mention to the most improved batsman in the country imho.. Marnus Labuchagne. Have to mention Warner's contribution as that set up the game for Hughes and Nevill to finish. Bertus and Burns played a part too.

Man of the match was Conway but I think Warner was the one that set up the victory for NSW. First 10 for for Conway is an extremely impressive performance, there are many that haven't done that in their careers. Pattinson and Hazlewood come immediately to mind. My team of the round would be

Warner
Maddinson
Pucovski
Labuchagne
Cooper
Stoinis
Paine
Neser
Conway
Neil-Smith
Bird

I'll start something new though, my disappointments of the round
Bancroft
Weatherald
Khawaja
Henriques
Larkin
Hemphrey
Whiteman
Boland
Steketee
Starc
Holland

Four days time 3 interesting games NSW at home to Tasmania at the SCG, probably will be a pitch conducive to spin. Qld at home to SA will be an interesting game hopefully not as green as the last one. My match of the round will be WA at home to Victoria, battle of the bowling attacks will be the one to watch.
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MikeR - 14 Oct 2019 11:00 AM
baggygreenmania - 13 Oct 2019 3:48 PM

Man of the match was Conway but I think Warner was the one that set up the victory for NSW. First 10 for for Conway is an extremely impressive performance, there are many that haven't done that in their careers. Pattinson and Hazlewood come immediately to mind. My team of the round would be

Warner
Maddinson
Pucovski
Labuchagne
Cooper
Stoinis
Paine
Neser
Conway
Neil-Smith
Bird

I'll start something new though, my disappointments of the round
Bancroft
Weatherald
Khawaja
Henriques
Larkin
Hemphrey
Whiteman
Boland
Steketee
Starc
Holland

Four days time 3 interesting games NSW at home to Tasmania at the SCG, probably will be a pitch conducive to spin. Qld at home to SA will be an interesting game hopefully not as green as the last one. My match of the round will be WA at home to Victoria, battle of the bowling attacks will be the one to watch.

Special mention to Dan Hughes. His calm head won it for the Blues. Yes Mike your boy Steketee was missing in action.

Three interesting matches. Weather is looking tops for the SCG game. Hopefully no rain disruption at other two. Blues yet to pick their side. I expect another deck to suit spin. Not sure why NSW Cricket has made our home of cricket a spin friendly track. Lyon may be back from injury.. Like to see Fallins as his partner. Hazlewood and Cummins are still in cotton wool.
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Keyboard Warrior - 14 Oct 2019 9:14 AM
baggygreenmania - 13 Oct 2019 2:31 PM

Plenty of batsmen find a way of getting themselves out and squander a career, Baggers.

Plenty who think this kid will be a superstar once he learns his game. 





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MikeR - 14 Oct 2019 11:00 AM
baggygreenmania - 13 Oct 2019 3:48 PM


Four days time 3 interesting games NSW at home to Tasmania at the SCG, probably will be a pitch conducive to spin. Qld at home to SA will be an interesting game hopefully not as green as the last one. My match of the round will be WA at home to Victoria, battle of the bowling attacks will be the one to watch.

Hope there are no games in Victoria next round  with that Junction Oval pitch.
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MikeR - 14 Oct 2019 11:00 AM
baggygreenmania - 13 Oct 2019 3:48 PM

Man of the match was Conway but I think Warner was the one that set up the victory for NSW. First 10 for for Conway is an extremely impressive performance, there are many that haven't done that in their careers. Pattinson and Hazlewood come immediately to mind. My team of the round would be

Warner
Maddinson
Pucovski
Labuchagne
Cooper
Stoinis
Paine
Neser
Conway
Neil-Smith
Bird

I'll start something new though, my disappointments of the round
Bancroft
Weatherald
Khawaja
Henriques
Larkin
Hemphrey
Whiteman
Boland
Steketee
Starc
Holland

Four days time 3 interesting games NSW at home to Tasmania at the SCG, probably will be a pitch conducive to spin. Qld at home to SA will be an interesting game hopefully not as green as the last one. My match of the round will be WA at home to Victoria, battle of the bowling attacks will be the one to watch.

However a reduced bowling attack for W.A. with Joel Paris doing a hammy, Cameron Green with a side strain, of course Behrendorff is out and I think Coulter-Nile also has back issues. Hopefully Matt Kelly will come into the XI.
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ThingyBob - 14 Oct 2019 4:34 PM
MikeR - 14 Oct 2019 11:00 AM

However a reduced bowling attack for W.A. with Joel Paris doing a hammy, Cameron Green with a side strain, of course Behrendorff is out and I think Coulter-Nile also has back issues. Hopefully Matt Kelly will come into the XI.

I rate Kelly. What other rookie WA quicks are around? You let Bevilaqua go.. where is Moody.
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baggygreenmania - 14 Oct 2019 4:59 PM
ThingyBob - 14 Oct 2019 4:34 PM

I rate Kelly. What other rookie WA quicks are around? You let Bevilaqua go.. where is Moody.

Moody is in the current squad. Don't know what he's been up to. There are a few young rookie bats / leggie-allrounders, but Lance Morris is a pace bowler from down South who is on the books and impressed in a tour match vs England couple years back. Fast and still fine-tuning his L&L is the word. Aaron Hardie is another bowling-allrounder who is now on a full contract, after getting 8 wickets in his only shield game last season vs Qld I think. 
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ThingyBob - 14 Oct 2019 10:14 PM
baggygreenmania - 14 Oct 2019 4:59 PM

Moody is in the current squad. Don't know what he's been up to. There are a few young rookie bats / leggie-allrounders, but Lance Morris is a pace bowler from down South who is on the books and impressed in a tour match vs England couple years back. Fast and still fine-tuning his L&L is the word. Aaron Hardie is another bowling-allrounder who is now on a full contract, after getting 8 wickets in his only shield game last season vs Qld I think. 

Lance Morris a name I have not heard. Not sure how I missed not seeing him in that tour game. Other than Josh Philippe who was very impressive Tim David also impressed me. Tell me something about him. 
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baggygreenmania - 15 Oct 2019 9:10 AM
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Lance Morris a name I have not heard. I usually tune in to all tour games not sure how I missed this one. Who other than Caleb Jewell are your rookie bats? Or has Jewell been upgraded to full contract?

This is something that I find hard to comprehend. Who is CNSW kidding by saying they did not know of this until  yesterday..the grand final was played almost 10 days ago. So now we look forward to another bat fest at the postage-stamp sized Drummoye Oval. Please leave a good covering of grass on the pitch curator.
https://www.cricket.com.au/news/sheffield-shield-match-shifted-from-scg-new-south-wales-tasmania-lee-germon-cricket-nsw/2019-10-14



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Plenty who think this kid will be a superstar once he learns his game. 





ttps://youtu.be/cXgzvL-SdcM This is why Philippe is rated the next big thing. When he took the England Test attack apart in a tour game two years ago. He'd have just turned 20. I like the way he started .. even took a coupla blows from a fired up Jimmy but he overcame them. So this shows he does have the temperament to succeed at the top red ball level. Like so many young talents Philippe has been influenced by the big money and popularity of white ball cricket. So many of his and others dismissals in the shield smack of white ball influence. Going forward Philippe needs to channel the kinda mentality that saw him dominate the Poms back then into every red ball innings.


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baggygreenmania - 15 Oct 2019 9:10 AM
ThingyBob - 14 Oct 2019 10:14 PM

Lance Morris a name I have not heard. Not sure how I missed not seeing him in that tour game. Other than Josh Philippe who was very impressive Tim David also impressed me. Tell me something about him. 

Nick Hobson, Calum Howe, M Turner, Kyle Gardiner, Jake Carder. What is happening to their careers.
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baggygreenmania - 15 Oct 2019 9:10 AM
ThingyBob - 14 Oct 2019 10:14 PM

Lance Morris a name I have not heard. Not sure how I missed not seeing him in that tour game. Other than Josh Philippe who was very impressive Tim David also impressed me. Tell me something about him. 

Yes Hardie also got 2/46 in that same tour game. I haven’t seen much of Morris , so know little about him other than what is publicly available. I believe he has taken about 250 wickets at an average of 21 at club level. He partnered up with Cameron Green taking 4/29 against Qld in the U19 Nat Champs a few years back.


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On Oct 24 a PM XI has been selected for a one off T20 game. With some youthful players currently performing this is an opportunity to play against an international side. This is what they came up with
Dan Christian (co-captain) 37 years old and never really accomplished much in his career av 6 from 7 International T20 innings
Peter Siddle (co-captain) 35 years old his career is finished
Chris Lynn star attraction to bring more than a man and his dog to the game,
Ben Cutting 33 year old but he may have a couple of T20 games still in him
Jason Sangha once again given every opportunity for very little return, but once again getting the promotion ahead of other on field performers, av 19 SR 105 Media pet!!!
Fawad Ahmed 38 year old finished career
Jordan Silk probably deserves an opportunity av 30 SR 120
Daniel Fallins another that should be given an opportunity
Harry Nielsen W/K thought he had disappeared but must be still around not doing much to be noticed
Chris Green excellent choice
Djali Bloomfield who? must be from around NSW, played 1 futures game in the last 7 years I think he may be around 30 but testing the memory there
Daniel Leerdam (12th man) must be a local for his fielding

Another missed opportunity and there is a T20 world cup coming up here in October next year. Try to pick the batting order from this lot
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MikeR - 16 Oct 2019 6:06 AM
On Oct 24 a PM XI has been selected for a one off T20 game. With some youthful players currently performing this is an opportunity to play against an international side. This is what they came up with
Dan Christian (co-captain) 37 years old and never really accomplished much in his career av 6 from 7 International T20 innings
Peter Siddle (co-captain) 35 years old his career is finished
Chris Lynn star attraction to bring more than a man and his dog to the game,
Ben Cutting 33 year old but he may have a couple of T20 games still in him
Jason Sangha once again given every opportunity for very little return, but once again getting the promotion ahead of other on field performers, av 19 SR 105 Media pet!!!
Fawad Ahmed 38 year old finished career
Jordan Silk probably deserves an opportunity av 30 SR 120
Daniel Fallins another that should be given an opportunity
Harry Nielsen W/K thought he had disappeared but must be still around not doing much to be noticed
Chris Green excellent choice
Djali Bloomfield who? must be from around NSW, played 1 futures game in the last 7 years I think he may be around 30 but testing the memory there
Daniel Leerdam (12th man) must be a local for his fielding

Another missed opportunity and there is a T20 world cup coming up here in October next year. Try to pick the batting order from this lot

I rate Dan Christian despite his lack of intl success. He is a talented all-rounder.

Ben Cutting too is an interesting all-rounder, who's numbers dont reflect his role of death bowling and filthy late over slogging, coming out with less than 4 overs left, which he hits - long and clean - and regularly.

Sangha and Silk are just the result of a lack wider talent - unless you go for the oldies like SMarsh, Bailey and White.

While I get your selection frustration, I don't think a NZA batting team would look that hot right now either. Will Young is arguably in the top team now, despite having never played a single intl. Most of our wider talent are on South African elgibility timers, tbh. Most of our seamers lack promise, and we're not even bothing with top spinners in the A teams anymore, but trialling spinning allrounders instead. We already know what our top 5 spinners are capable of in intls, so there's no point in NZ trialling more ones.

For England, their A team batting would look shoddy and then some. Be lead by Billings (with Hales still banned). India is about the only team out there right now that can put out an intl quality A batting line up, but only them. Noone else. 

Siddle had a good Big Bash last year didn't he? I am sure he did. He could make the t20 World Cup in a year's time at 36. It's only 4 overs. So could Ahmed at 38 for that matter.




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Paddles - 16 Oct 2019 6:54 AM
MikeR - 16 Oct 2019 6:06 AM

I rate Dan Christian despite his lack of intl success. He is a talented all-rounder.

Ben Cutting too is an interesting all-rounder, who's numbers dont reflect his role of death bowling and filthy late over slogging, coming out with less than 4 overs left, which he hits - long and clean - and regularly.

Sangha and Silk are just the result of a lack wider talent - unless you go for the oldies like SMarsh, Bailey and White.

While I get your selection frustration, I don't think a NZA batting team would look that hot right now either. Will Young is arguably in the top team now, despite having never played a single intl. Most of our wider talent are on South African elgibility timers, tbh. Most of our seamers lack promise, and we're not even bothing with top spinners in the A teams anymore, but trialling spinning allrounders instead. We already know what our top 5 spinners are capable of in intls, so there's no point in NZ trialling more ones.

For England, their A team batting would look shoddy and then some. Be lead by Billings (with Hales still banned). India is about the only team out there right now that can put out an intl quality A batting line up, but only them. Noone else. 

Siddle had a good Big Bash last year didn't he? I am sure he did. He could make the t20 World Cup in a year's time at 36. It's only 4 overs. So could Ahmed at 38 for that matter.




Agree with you Paddles that most international sides would struggle to put up a 2nd XI, but there are a few youthful good players for Australia that have performed in recent times, that seem to be overlooked. I agree with Lynn, Cutting they could have some impact on the ultimate selection for the World Cup. Sangha's continued selection is solely from a media push, he's struggling at the Future's level, and IMO should be dropped back to grade cricket to sort out his inept batting.

Here are a few borderline future international players Darcy Short hasn't cemented his place yet, Ashton Turner, not bad as an all rounder, Ben McDermott, coming on OK at present, Max Bryant, opener av 28 SR is a massive 150+, Josh Philippe av 30 also massive SR 150+, that's 5 that could get some experience from training alongside Lynn. So I wouldn't say there is a lack of talent, more so a lack of notice of their on-field performance, they are performing when it matters.

Wicket Keeper, probably Carey is the automatic selection, but what if an injury occurs? The next in line is Jimmy Pierson not Nielson who has barely played much at any level.

For the bowlers, Chris Green is an excellent choice as is Fallins, but we do have Sams if he is available for Australia and not NZ, Boyce,  Meredith, Abbott, Dwarshuis, Matthew Kelly, Doggart there are quite a few that could benefit from the step up, more so in the training aspect, rather than the actual game. And only one or possibly two would be pushing for selection, but injuries do occur, and their possible first game may be a game that matters in a World Cup

I'm sure that your NZ boys do have some talent afterall NZ for many years have been dominant at the shorter form of the game especially ODI's, granted not as much at T20's so there is obviously a good training set up in NZ as you keep producing them. Andrew Fletcher, Chad Bowes, Blair Tickner Tom Bruce, is Joe Carter eligible for NZ? I think NZ and Australia are on similar W/L ratios, both sides do have work to do at T20 level and here is an opportunity yet Australia fail to capitalise.



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MikeR - 16 Oct 2019 7:52 AM
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Agree with you Paddles that most international sides would struggle to put up a 2nd XI, but there are a few youthful good players for Australia that have performed in recent times, that seem to be overlooked. I agree with Lynn, Cutting they could have some impact on the ultimate selection for the World Cup. Sangha's continued selection is solely from a media push, he's struggling at the Future's level, and IMO should be dropped back to grade cricket to sort out his inept batting.

Here are a few borderline future international players Darcy Short hasn't cemented his place yet, Ashton Turner, not bad as an all rounder, Ben McDermott, coming on OK at present, Max Bryant, opener av 28 SR is a massive 150+, Josh Philippe av 30 also massive SR 150+, that's 5 that could get some experience from training alongside Lynn. So I wouldn't say there is a lack of talent, more so a lack of notice of their on-field performance, they are performing when it matters.

Wicket Keeper, probably Carey is the automatic selection, but what if an injury occurs? The next in line is Jimmy Pierson not Nielson who has barely played much at any level.

For the bowlers, Chris Green is an excellent choice as is Fallins, but we do have Sams if he is available for Australia and not NZ, Boyce,  Meredith, Abbott, Dwarshuis, Matthew Kelly, Doggart there are quite a few that could benefit from the step up, more so in the training aspect, rather than the actual game. And only one or possibly two would be pushing for selection, but injuries do occur, and their possible first game may be a game that matters in a World Cup

I'm sure that your NZ boys do have some talent afterall NZ for many years have been dominant at the shorter form of the game especially ODI's, granted not as much at T20's so there is obviously a good training set up in NZ as you keep producing them. Andrew Fletcher, Chad Bowes, Blair Tickner Tom Bruce, is Joe Carter eligible for NZ? I think NZ and Australia are on similar W/L ratios, both sides do have work to do at T20 level and here is an opportunity yet Australia fail to capitalise.



Tom Bruce is a big disappointment, who is struggling with the bigger boundaries. Did well in his last t20i but injured again. 

Joe Carter is a noone. I don't know why you keep mentioning him to be honest. Fletcher is more list A where is averaging 56, but his SR is not impressive at all. Young and Conway will get in ahead of him, and then there Foxcroft.

Okay, I am going to tell you something that will upset you. Cos you will say immediately, why didn't Aus do this. I can tell you why for that too. The BBL pressures on your List A and Shield. Anyway - what NZ has done... a week out from the Domestic Season start, is run a camp for a week, with 3 or 4 games of t20. Maybe more.

The squad is outstanding. It is literally the best 23 eligible players according to the selectors in the country, bar those injured. There is a 24th player, and he is getting special treatment. His name is Devon Conway. He is eligible for NZ in September, and well, frankly, he is the best batsman in all NZ domestic cricket forms bar WIll Young by a country mile. Young is part of the main team for test now, and would have gone to the World Cup but for wrecking his shoulder in Aus. These 2  guys have domestic numbers that England would be drooling over for selection right now. So does Greg Hay for that matter for tests.

Black Caps for Twenty20 camp and intra-squad matches: Todd Astle, Tom Blundell, Trent Boult, Devon Conway, Colin de Grandhomme, Martin Guptill, Matt Henry, Kyle Jamieson, Scott Kuggeleijn, Cole McConchie, Daryl Mitchell, Henry Nicholls, Ed Nuttall, Glenn Phillips, Seth Rance, Hamish Rutherford, Mitchell Santner, Tim Seifert, Ish Sodhi, Tim Southee, Ross Taylor, Blair Tickner, Kane Williamson (Wednesday only), George Worker.
Unavailable: Colin Munro, Jimmy Neesham (both returning from CPL).
Injured: Lockie Ferguson (thumb), Adam Milne (ankle), Tom Bruce (knee), Corey Anderson (shoulder), Mark Chapman (shoulder), Doug Bracewell (precautionary), William Young (shoulder rehab).

So as you can see, this is not a BS camp. Glen Phillips was the leading batsman in the CPL, outshining Gayle his opening partner. This is a serious selection fight - him vs Seifert - and for all positions as announced to be as such by the Coach and cheif selector. At a level higher than domestic. Bond is helping with the bowlers. 

So the NZ selectors have gotten sick of bringing in domestic players to replace faling intl players and fail. So they're making them go toe to toe, and fight it out to see who deserves to be there. Only KW gets a free ride, but even he has to play from today.

Our current seam stocks are weak, but we still have Ferg and Milne to return. Our batting has never been so strong. We have more SA batting spin allrounders elgible the year after the 2020 WC. But NZC has laid down a message, Conway could be auto selected on eligible next September if he keep form. What I don't get is the snubbing Tom Latham got given. 

The players were literally summoned. No free passes for not attending. Now - I just wanna point out, not all these guys are on national contracts, just about 1/2 of them - the domestic players have literally been summoned outside of their contracts - but they have been due at their provnces for net training I imagine. But NZC has said nopes, you're coming here and playing at a higher level. So this is the first step for NZ's Wt20 buildup in Aus. And to me, its a great idea, except for the fact it will be freezing down in Lincoln right now. Absolutely freezing.

TBH - I have no idea what the NZ batting line up will remotely look like at the WT20 right now. Guptil, Munro, KW, CdG, even Taylor are immense pressure. I think KW will be there, but so could Phillips, Conway, Nicholls... 


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MikeR - 16 Oct 2019 6:06 AM
On Oct 24 a PM XI has been selected for a one off T20 game. With some youthful players currently performing this is an opportunity to play against an international side. This is what they came up with
Dan Christian (co-captain) 37 years old and never really accomplished much in his career av 6 from 7 International T20 innings
Peter Siddle (co-captain) 35 years old his career is finished
Chris Lynn star attraction to bring more than a man and his dog to the game,
Ben Cutting 33 year old but he may have a couple of T20 games still in him
Jason Sangha once again given every opportunity for very little return, but once again getting the promotion ahead of other on field performers, av 19 SR 105 Media pet!!!
Fawad Ahmed 38 year old finished career
Jordan Silk probably deserves an opportunity av 30 SR 120
Daniel Fallins another that should be given an opportunity
Harry Nielsen W/K thought he had disappeared but must be still around not doing much to be noticed
Chris Green excellent choice
Djali Bloomfield who? must be from around NSW, played 1 futures game in the last 7 years I think he may be around 30 but testing the memory there
Daniel Leerdam (12th man) must be a local for his fielding

Another missed opportunity and there is a T20 world cup coming up here in October next year. Try to pick the batting order from this lot

Yes this is a hotch potch lot. Siddle, Christian and the under rated Ben Cutting given a swan song match me thinks. Agree that Christian is better than his figures indicate. Shud've played more for his country. Politics there somewhere I believe. Lynn, Christian, Silk and Sangha will be the specialist bats.. Djali is a Canberra local. A favorite son so expect this is a token inclusion. I think he is an all rounder of sorts. Nielsen will keep. Only the two quicks plus Fallins, Green and Fawad. Three tweakers?
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MikeR - 16 Oct 2019 7:52 AM
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Agree with you Paddles that most international sides would struggle to put up a 2nd XI, but there are a few youthful good players for Australia that have performed in recent times, that seem to be overlooked. I agree with Lynn, Cutting they could have some impact on the ultimate selection for the World Cup. Sangha's continued selection is solely from a media push, he's struggling at the Future's level, and IMO should be dropped back to grade cricket to sort out his inept batting.

Here are a few borderline future international players Darcy Short hasn't cemented his place yet, Ashton Turner, not bad as an all rounder, Ben McDermott, coming on OK at present, Max Bryant, opener av 28 SR is a massive 150+, Josh Philippe av 30 also massive SR 150+, that's 5 that could get some experience from training alongside Lynn. So I wouldn't say there is a lack of talent, more so a lack of notice of their on-field performance, they are performing when it matters.

Wicket Keeper, probably Carey is the automatic selection, but what if an injury occurs? The next in line is Jimmy Pierson not Nielson who has barely played much at any level.

For the bowlers, Chris Green is an excellent choice as is Fallins, but we do have Sams if he is available for Australia and not NZ, Boyce,  Meredith, Abbott, Dwarshuis, Matthew Kelly, Doggart there are quite a few that could benefit from the step up, more so in the training aspect, rather than the actual game. And only one or possibly two would be pushing for selection, but injuries do occur, and their possible first game may be a game that matters in a World Cup

I'm sure that your NZ boys do have some talent afterall NZ for many years have been dominant at the shorter form of the game especially ODI's, granted not as much at T20's so there is obviously a good training set up in NZ as you keep producing them. Andrew Fletcher, Chad Bowes, Blair Tickner Tom Bruce, is Joe Carter eligible for NZ? I think NZ and Australia are on similar W/L ratios, both sides do have work to do at T20 level and here is an opportunity yet Australia fail to capitalise.



Oz has plenty waiting to show their white ball wares to the world. We need to jettison perennial hit and misses like Maxwell and promote the emerging power hitters . You mentioned Philippe, Bryant and McDermott. Mac has made the T20 side for the summer not sure why not the other pair. Philippe will be a superstar in both formats imho, Bryant looks like a Finch clone and Mac impresses me with his ability to lift gears when needed. Reminds me of a new gen George Bailey. We have not seen the best of Agar yet.. unless you count his debut in 2013 when he took apart England. I like Turner, Maddinson, Heazlett and Handscomb. Renshaw has improved his scoring rate in white ball too. 
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SHIELD Round 2:
Bulls v Redbacks - Brisbane
Blues v Tigers - Sydney
Warriors v Bushies - Perth

Blues with usual suspects.
Bulls have promoted  FL triple century maker Bryce Street and promising quick Xavier Bartlett.
Dumb Mitchell Marsh out.. Aaron Hardie in.


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Henry Hunt bought back to earth in 4 balls, clean bowled for 0 against Neser. Neser needs more consistent support from Gannon and Steketee, for Qld to make an impact on this years shield.

Tasmania off to a solid start against NSW, Silk and Doolan are a strong opening partnership that shouldn't be underestimated

Agree with you Baggers Mitchell Marsh pure stupidity.

More brilliant bowling by Neser, Lehmann gone for 0, Neser 2/0, and Langer regards him as only a "good" bowler, one of the best over the last 2-3 years IMO
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baggygreenmania - 18 Oct 2019 9:24 AM
SHIELD Round 2:
Bulls v Redbacks - Brisbane
Blues v Tigers - Sydney
Warriors v Bushies - Perth

Blues with usual suspects.
Bulls have promoted  FL triple century maker Bryce Street and promising quick Xavier Bartlett.
Dumb Mitchell Marsh out.. Aaron Hardie in.


Mike I am watching the Bulls/Redbacks match as I have had it with our archaic thinking selectors. They have dropped Harry Conway after his 10 last match. How many wickets did Starc take.. a solitary 1. Abbott also took less than Harry yet he is the scapegoat for the inclusion of SOK.. are two spinners even needed on this postage stamp ground.. this is not the SCG. Looks decidely green to me.
Henriques continues to be picked in favor of a younger more promising batsman.. and Nevill wont step away from the game to give an emerging keeper his time in the sun.
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MikeR - 18 Oct 2019 11:11 AM
Henry Hunt bought back to earth in 4 balls, clean bowled for 0 against Neser. Neser needs more consistent support from Gannon and Steketee, for Qld to make an impact on this years shield.

Tasmania off to a solid start against NSW, Silk and Doolan are a strong opening partnership that shouldn't be underestimated

Agree with you Baggers Mitchell Marsh pure stupidity.

More brilliant bowling by Neser, Lehmann gone for 0, Neser 2/0, and Langer regards him as only a "good" bowler, one of the best over the last 2-3 years IMO

Bulls win toss I presume. Hunt is discovering that opening on the first morning of a shield game is a tuff gig on a  greenish Gabba deck.
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Mike I am watching the Bulls/Redbacks match as I have had it with our archaic thinking selectors. They have dropped Harry Conway after his 10 last match. How many wickets did Starc take.. a solitary 1. Abbott also took less than Harry yet he is the scapegoat for the inclusion of SOK.. are two spinners even needed on this postage stamp ground.. this is not the SCG. Looks decidely green to me.
Henriques continues to be picked in favor of a younger more promising batsman.. and Nevill wont step away from the game to give an emerging keeper his time in the sun.

Who are the selectors for NSW Baggers? They really do make some strange decisions. I would have put Conway ahead of Abbott, who seems to me to be a bit more of a limited over bowler, more so than a 4 day player. I can understand Starc bowling afterall he has 52 international games under his belt so you would expect him to eat up sheffield shield players. I think his dropping has affected his bowling in a mental aspect, trying too hard to impress.

Disappointed with Lehmann, one who showed early promise, but last couple of years hasn't really gone on with it.
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MikeR - 18 Oct 2019 11:34 AM
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Who are the selectors for NSW Baggers? They really do make some strange decisions. I would have put Conway ahead of Abbott, who seems to me to be a bit more of a limited over bowler, more so than a 4 day player. I can understand Starc bowling afterall he has 52 international games under his belt so you would expect him to eat up sheffield shield players. I think his dropping has affected his bowling in a mental aspect, trying too hard to impress.
Harry will be shattered I expect.. 10 fer and then a massive kick in the guts!

Then mentally Starc is as weak as p*** Mike. The only time he sparks into life is when someone bags him unmercilessly.. such as Warne has done in past. The Australian cricket team does not want mentally fragile cricketers. Yes he shud be eating up Shield players but he aint.. one solitary wicket last game.. again he has failed to strike in his opening spell today. Abbott is inconsistent and yest he is better suited to white ball. Has a good record in that format.
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Harry will be shattered I expect.. 10 fer and then a massive kick in the guts! Dunno who the selectors are but they are doing a diservice to the cricketer loving people of this state. 

Then mentally Starc is as weak as p*** Mike. The only time he sparks into life is when someone bags him unmercilessly.. such as Warne has done in past. The Australian cricket team does not want mentally fragile cricketers. Yes he shud be eating up Shield players but he aint.. one solitary wicket last game.. again he has failed to strike in his opening spell today. Abbott is inconsistent and yest he is better suited to white ball. Has a good record in that format.



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Suppose it will be left to Copeland to carry the Blues attack again.

Not expecting anything much from the Redback batsman this round after making merry on that Melbourne road last round.. As I write their third goes down.
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Harry will be shattered I expect.. 10 fer and then a massive kick in the guts!

Then mentally Starc is as weak as p*** Mike. The only time he sparks into life is when someone bags him unmercilessly.. such as Warne has done in past. The Australian cricket team does not want mentally fragile cricketers. Yes he shud be eating up Shield players but he aint.. one solitary wicket last game.. again he has failed to strike in his opening spell today. Abbott is inconsistent and yest he is better suited to white ball. Has a good record in that format.

No place for the mentally weak. Playing 2 spinners is also going to hurt NSW now that they're bowling first, probably not going to see much turn, and going for easy runs currently. Drummoyne Oval not really a Sheffield shield standard oval IMO.

Gannon gets the all important Travis Head for a duck. SA scoreboard looks like a shooting gallery. Big difference in the pitches around Australia, The Gabba tests technique. Noticed Lehmann saying Burns should be the opener for Australia based on the last round, but it is hard to be noticed without the big scores, which are hard to get at the Gabba. Good to see Bartlett gets an opportunity, but personally I'm not sure he is ready yet.
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