Martin Boyle Appreciation Thread


Martin Boyle Appreciation Thread

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Very very underrated player. The way he moved with the ball last night looked messi-esque last night.
Is very very quick can dribble well and brave. 

No idea why he's only playing in Scotland and wasnt picked in their national side?! We got a real steal on our hands getting him.
Even his club manager at hibs last season Neil Lennon said that Boyle 'could play at the very top' if he improved his decision making ..
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/sport/amp/football/45686013

Also menrions that he was Hibs most improved player during his time there..
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.edinburghlive.co.uk/sport/football/martin-boyle-most-improved-hibs-15243915.amp 


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Love him. Our best winger.
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Best winger since Harry 
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Bunch of Hacks - 15 Nov 2019 10:48 PM
Very very underrated player. The way he moved with the ball last night looked messi-esque last night.
Is very very quick can dribble well and brave. 

No idea why he's only playing in Scotland and wasnt picked in their national side?! We got a real steal on our hands getting him.
Even his club manager at hibs last season Neil Lennon said that Boyle 'could play at the very top' if he improved his decision making ..
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/sport/amp/football/45686013

Also menrions that he was Hibs most improved player during his time there..
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.edinburghlive.co.uk/sport/football/martin-boyle-most-improved-hibs-15243915.amp 


His output in terms of goals and assists is mediocre. As I mentioned in another thread, Craig Goodwin (someone who shouldn’t be in the squad either) scored more goals last season than Boyle has in his last three seasons combined and one of those seasons was in the Scottish Championship.



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I'm drunk off my arse and Iwould just eant to say that I like everyone of you even through the disagreements, not Nomates though.

I reckon the most promising forward line in the next ten years will be

Mabil Toure Arzani

Boyle and Ikonomidis are excellent subs to have, imo with Mat Leckie with some good xp.




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Hope to see Boyle more and more in qualifying and hopefully WCUP itself. So positive and attacking- no fear - combined with likes of Arzani and even Leckie, we have good fast Winger options ahead
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Balin Trev - 16 Nov 2019 12:05 AM
Hope to see Boyle more and more in qualifying and hopefully WCUP itself. So positive and attacking- no fear - combined with likes of Arzani and even Leckie, we have good fast Winger options ahead

Would like to see more of Boyle who is just back from injury. Personally think Mabil is half the player Boyle is. 
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he's one of the best things to happen to the NT in years. doesn't fuck about in going for goal. he will out score all our wingers when he gets a decent run.

 




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Not an Aussie by any stretch.


Member since 2008.


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Munrubenmuz - 16 Nov 2019 10:48 AM
Not an Aussie by any stretch.

neither is Arzani or Souttar?! White ‘Aussies’ aren’t even Australians- the Aboriginal people are the original ‘Aussies’...
If they have the Fifa right to play - and they play well for Socceroos, who gives a shit...
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Balin Trev - 16 Nov 2019 12:09 PM
Munrubenmuz - 16 Nov 2019 10:48 AM

neither is Arzani or Souttar?! White ‘Aussies’ aren’t even Australians- the Aboriginal people are the original ‘Aussies’...
If they have the Fifa right to play - and they play well for Socceroos, who gives a shit...

I agree with who gives a shit. But there is no way Arzani should be mentioned in the same line as Souttar and Boyle in regards to lack of 'Australianess' 
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sub007 - 15 Nov 2019 11:32 PM
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His output in terms of goals and assists is mediocre. As I mentioned in another thread, Craig Goodwin (someone who shouldn’t be in the squad either) scored more goals last season than Boyle has in his last three seasons combined and one of those seasons was in the Scottish Championship.



So, in other words, you're saying that different teammates playing a different shape has no effect and the inability to score goals and doesn't change things?
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Balin Trev - 16 Nov 2019 12:09 PM
Munrubenmuz - 16 Nov 2019 10:48 AM

neither is Arzani or Souttar?! White ‘Aussies’ aren’t even Australians- the Aboriginal people are the original ‘Aussies’...
If they have the Fifa right to play - and they play well for Socceroos, who gives a shit...

Sorry but your example misses the point. Regardless of how you feel about the Boyle situation, it’s not analogous to the Arzani situation.

Daniel Arzani has lived in Australia since the age of seven. Most of his childhood was spent in Australia. He learnt to play football in Australia and came through the system here. He did almost all his schooling in Australia. His childhood friendships were predominantly formed in Australia. He grew up here.

Martin Boyle first came to Australia as an adult. He grew up entirely in another country. And nothing prevents (or prevented) him from representing that country.

It’s a tricky one. By virtue of IR law, Boyle can’t be deprived of the right to represent Australia. That’s the law. For some people, that’s end of story.

But Munrubenmuz makes a good point. This situation has shades of Tatiana Grigorieva, Kevin Pietersen and Jofra Archer about it. As far as I’m concerned, representing a country in sport should be a privilege, not a right. I think Martin should have the right to Australian citizenship. He should have the right to live, to work and to study in Australia as an Australian citizen.

But playing for the NT is tricky, imo. The only exception would be if, say, Scotland was banned from international football and he would otherwise be deprived of the right to play international football (e.g. Tony Grieg playing cricket for England when South Africa was banned because of Apartheid).
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redcup - 16 Nov 2019 3:20 PM
sub007 - 15 Nov 2019 11:32 PM

So, in other words, you're saying that different teammates playing a different shape has no effect and the inability to score goals and doesn't change things?

It does have an effect but his record at club level is underwhelming even when you take all this into account and really shouldn’t be anywhere near the NT. 

I don’t think he even played well against Jordan. All he did was run fast at tired defenders who haven’t played a club game in months and then butchered nearly every cross he attempted. In fairness, Mabil and Smith were also guilty of this as well.
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sub007 - 16 Nov 2019 5:35 PM
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It does have an effect but his record at club level is underwhelming even when you take all this into account and really shouldn’t be anywhere near the NT. 

I don’t think he even played well against Jordan. All he did was run fast at tired defenders who haven’t played a club game in months and then butchered nearly every cross he attempted. In fairness, Mabil and Smith were also guilty of this as well.

Should we bring back guys like Robbie Kruse then?! Lol... If you rewatch Denmark WCUP game you can see how many BIG stuff ups he made- instead of attacking goal from 18 yards he just passed backwards to Behich- and when Leckie provided good passes into box Kruse just fumbles ball down instead of striking at goal straight away. Boyle would have fired on-target shots in both those situations. We really need him
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Balin Trev - 16 Nov 2019 6:32 PM
sub007 - 16 Nov 2019 5:35 PM

Should we bring back guys like Robbie Kruse then?! Lol... If you rewatch Denmark WCUP game you can see how many BIG stuff ups he made- instead of attacking goal from 18 yards he just passed backwards to Behich- and when Leckie provided good passes into box Kruse just fumbles ball down instead of striking at goal straight away. Boyle would have fired on-target shots in both those situations. We really need him

Oh please no Kruse, spends his day falling down trying to get a free.
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Balin Trev - 16 Nov 2019 6:32 PM
sub007 - 16 Nov 2019 5:35 PM

Should we bring back guys like Robbie Kruse then?! Lol... If you rewatch Denmark WCUP game you can see how many BIG stuff ups he made- instead of attacking goal from 18 yards he just passed backwards to Behich- and when Leckie provided good passes into box Kruse just fumbles ball down instead of striking at goal straight away. Boyle would have fired on-target shots in both those situations. We really need him

No I don’t want Kruse. I want the likes of Ikon, Hrustic and McGree (who has scored 11 goals in his last 13 games) in the squad instead.
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He’s a good player but I won’t go to say he’s our best winger, that belongs to Arzani before ACL or Mabil who has had better games.

He was good and direct but also made a couple of mistakes too, but it’s good to have more options in the front third.
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Love Boyle because he is direct and not afraid to shoot. That being said he needs to be tested against better teams to see what he is made of.

More annoyed we didn't get to see more of Hrustic because he is a definite starter in my books.

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hitpehoaos - 16 Nov 2019 8:41 PM
Love Boyle because he is direct and not afraid to shoot. That being said he needs to be tested against better teams to see what he is made of.

More annoyed we didn't get to see more of Hrustic because he is a definite starter in my books.

Yep Hrustic should have started instead of Mabil imo
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quickflick - 16 Nov 2019 3:34 PM
Balin Trev - 16 Nov 2019 12:09 PM

Sorry but your example misses the point. Regardless of how you feel about the Boyle situation, it’s not analogous to the Arzani situation.

Daniel Arzani has lived in Australia since the age of seven. Most of his childhood was spent in Australia. He learnt to play football in Australia and came through the system here. He did almost all his schooling in Australia. His childhood friendships were predominantly formed in Australia. He grew up here.

Martin Boyle first came to Australia as an adult. He grew up entirely in another country. And nothing prevents (or prevented) him from representing that country.

It’s a tricky one. By virtue of IR law, Boyle can’t be deprived of the right to represent Australia. That’s the law. For some people, that’s end of story.

But Munrubenmuz makes a good point. This situation has shades of Tatiana Grigorieva, Kevin Pietersen and Jofra Archer about it. As far as I’m concerned, representing a country in sport should be a privilege, not a right. I think Martin should have the right to Australian citizenship. He should have the right to live, to work and to study in Australia as an Australian citizen.

But playing for the NT is tricky, imo. The only exception would be if, say, Scotland was banned from international football and he would otherwise be deprived of the right to play international football (e.g. Tony Grieg playing cricket for England when South Africa was banned because of Apartheid).

At least Boyle has Citizenship in the first place. That Rugby Union tool Quade Cooper thought he was entitled to a Wallabies spot despite playing on a NZ Passport until he was forced by the IOC to get citizenship to make the Olympic squad.

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