We've recently seen a big push by both fans and football personalities on the need for smaller stadiums in the A-league, particularly after the success of Brisbane Roar at Dolphin Stadium and Sydney FC at Kogarah Oval. There’s been talk of Wellington Phoenix playing out of Hutt Recreation Ground and Western United moving to a smaller ground.

FFA needs to have a lower limit. Which should probably be the same as the lower limit standard for ACL by AFC.


But... if Mudgee can host then there is a standard already.

https://twitter.com/Soccersceneau/status/1196330323975344128

I don’t think it’s that hard tbh.

Finding land will be the hard part as Victory are finding out, objectors are two a penny but if you work with local council first to identify land. 

Low cost stadiums are a must, as is ownership of them or at least primary tenant status. WSW’s have a great stadium but there’s trouble down the track with pitch quality, availability and rental costs. Not every stadium needs to cost $330m and host multiple teams. 

Bear Stadiums offers a low cost alternative with modular stadiums from 5,000 to 40,000+. It can be done differently and after Sunday’s success I think it’s now inevitable that Roar will move 

This smaller venue obsession is the most expensive resolution to the biggest non issue the league faces

Good luck getting government funding when we refuse to play (what should be) a premium league in their major venues

We have enough big fucking stadiums, dumb ass. 

I like the idea, but have they actually built a stadium?

Plenty of smaller stadiums here:-
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Not in Australia which is significant (although they say they have done a couple of smaller projects here) 

Would a wooden stadium ever get approval here  ? After some of the old British firetraps burned I can't imagine it .

Doubt it. 

No.
After the recent combustible cladding crisis all authorities have collectively tightened up significantly.
Would cost an absolute bomb to treat it appropriately to achieve the required fire ratings.

A ground floor plus 9 storey timber office tower at 25 King St Brisbane was opened a year ago so I can't see why the technology couldn't be used for a stadium.

https://brisbanedevelopment.com/lendlease-unveils-australias-tallest-timber-tower-25-king/

Incorrect. It already has approval and has fire ratings stronger than concrete structures. It’s already been deployed in a small scale in Australia 

Dolphin stadium looks like it's plobked next to a rubbish dumps 

They probably got the permit well before the strenuous red tape that's now currently needed for approvals these days.
With the amount of fire engineering, fire tests & indices required it would certainly drag the process out before even commencing on site.
It can be done but it would be far less economical, time consuming than a conventional build in my eyes.

Incorrect. It’s already passed fire testing and reamsins compliant today. 

Its not subject to cladding so doesnt doesn’t need to worry about that, concrete structures would. 

The biggest drawback is most most likely shipping costs but a 20,000 seat stadium for around $50m excluding land, turf and accessories looks a good deal. 

Get your eyes tested then lol. 

Houses on three sides including ones set in canals and parks on the other. 

That's interesting .I didn't know that . Lets hope we never get to see how fireproof it is . However ...I would think there is a big difference in the fire risk between a wooden structure housing 15,000 people and one housing 500....

I'd expect it would take the same time to get approval as any other building that uses the Performance Solution or mixed Performance Solution and Deemed to Satisfy process and it is quicker to build.

I think he was referring to the suburb as a whole :w00t:

The egress requirements are dependent on the number of people that have to get out in an emergency.  If I remember correctly the maximum time to exit a stadium is 8 minutes.

ha ha, not commenting as I have to go back 😬

https://www.moelven.com/news/news-archive2/2018/how-the-worlds-tallest-timber-building-withstands-fire/

the assumption that that wood is less safe than concrete in a fire shows how far behind Europe we really are. Next people will be saying bush fires are started by an angry God 

This new wood construction things is very interesting, it was cool to watch a time lapse of this Canadian wooden 18 storey high rise go up: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHtdnY_gnmE

Blew my mind when it said it takes US and Canadian forests six minutes to grow the amount of wood used!

If someone pitched the idea of a sustainable wooden boutique football stadium using local materials to the Tasmanian government they would get wood, if you know what I mean.

What about termites and shit?

I think that's one reason why the base is concrete.