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Munrubenmuz - 6 Jun 2020 9:42 AM

Did Trump Say ‘This Is a Great Day’ for George Floyd?

The president's comments came during a press conference about employment statistics on June 5, 2020.


https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-george-floyd-great-day/

Why yes.  Yes he did.

Yes he did. What I want to know is if you just read an article with one quote pulled out from his speech, or did you actually listen to the speech?

What he said was that he wants every American to be treated equally under the law by law enforcement, regardless of colour, race, gender ect ect. 

He said we all saw what happened last week, and we can't let that happen again. Hopefully George is looking down from above thinking this is a great day for our country, for him, for everybody in terms of equality. 

Trump never said it is a great day for George because of job employment, he said it is a great day because of equality. 

How is that a bad thing to say?
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Oh and if you want a link here you go. 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.foxnews.com/media/mainstream-media-trumps-great-day-george-floyd-remarks.amp

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robstazzz - 6 Jun 2020 11:33 AM
Munrubenmuz - 6 Jun 2020 9:42 AM

Yes he did. What I want to know is if you just read an article with one quote pulled out from his speech, or did you actually listen to the speech?

What he said was that he wants every American to be treated equally under the law by law enforcement, regardless of colour, race, gender ect ect. 

He said we all saw what happened last week, and we can't let that happen again. Hopefully George is looking down from above thinking this is a great day for our country, for him, for everybody in terms of equality. 

Trump never said it is a great day for George because of job employment, he said it is a great day because of equality. 

How is that a bad thing to say?

He's used Snopes as a 'fact checker' on two threads now, so a pattern is emerging. Snopes is an absolute joke and so is anyone who holds them up as some bastion of thruth.

For anyone who doesn't know, that website started as a husband and wife team with no journalistic or investigative experience. They had a messy divorce after the husband embezzled funds, banged hookers all around the world. He then married a porn star and escort who was hired on the Snopes team.

This is Snopes. :laugh:

It also sums up the modern left perfectly. :laugh:


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Les Gock - 7 Jun 2020 9:04 AM
robstazzz - 6 Jun 2020 11:33 AM

He's used Snopes as a 'fact checker' on two threads now, so a pattern is emerging. Snopes is an absolute joke and so is anyone who holds them up as some bastion of thruth.

For anyone who doesn't know, that website started as a husband and wife team with no journalistic or investigative experience. They had a messy divorce after the husband embezzled funds, banged hookers all around the world. He then married a porn star and escort who was hired on the Snopes team.

This is Snopes. :laugh:

It also sums up the modern left perfectly. :laugh:


As I said in the other thread the references and all the original links, tweets and articles are there for you to check and cross reference.

If you are going to discount whether something is true or not based on their character flaws I assume you apply the same consideration to Trump.  What's that?  You dont?

Unsurprising.

It sums up the modern right perfectly that they'll happily contradict themselves and apply different standards depending on who they are discussing.   Typical pathetic behaviour.


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Genuine question.

When Trump was elected he was, amongst other things, going to drain the swamp and hire only the very best people.

Now that he has sacked or had literally dozens of staff resign in senior positions, THAT HE APPOINTED, could you Mr Gock explain how that has happened.

Could be one of 2 things.  Either he has really poor judgement when he is employing these folk or he is a genuine loose cannon running amok in the White house.

I mean it could be a third option so I'm happy to wait for you to elucidate the reasoning behind these firings/resignations.

Take your time.  Try to avoid strawmen and ad hominems.  It's a poor debating tactic and transparent.

Here's a link to help though I suppose you'll dismiss it as a shill of a publication of the left wing MSM.  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Trump_administration_dismissals_and_resignations

Again in case the scientific methods escapes you all of it is confirmed via links, references or the public record.




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So Muz,

Even after I post an article with the full 45 minute speech by Trump where he said nothing wrong, are you still going to ignore the fact you were wrong about Trump?

I would much rather think you made the easy mistake many do, which is to believe what's said in the first article you read about Trump saying it is a good day for George because of more jobs being created. 

However after being proven wrong, it sickens me to think you hate Trump that bad, that you're willing to back up an article making up lies, at the expense of George and his family. 

As much as I hate certain politicians I would never make lies about things they never said. Instead I'll simply focus on the things I hate about that person and point them out. 



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robstazzz - 7 Jun 2020 1:35 PM
So Muz,

Even after I post an article with the full 45 minute speech by Trump where he said nothing wrong, are you still going to ignore the fact you were wrong about Trump?

I would much rather think you made the easy mistake many do, which is to believe what's said in the first article you read about Trump saying it is a good day for George because of more jobs being created. 

However after being proven wrong, it sickens me to think you hate Trump that bad, that you're willing to back up an article making up lies, at the expense of George and his family. 

As much as I hate certain politicians I would never make lies about things they never said. Instead I'll simply focus on the things I hate about that person and point them out. 



Simple question.  Did he say 'this is a great day for him' or not?

And as a corollary imagine your dad was killed by the police and then Scomo said this is a great day for Rob's dad.  I mean come on.  It's ridiculous you can even defend this clown.  

At the very least it was grossly inappropriate.


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Munrubenmuz - 7 Jun 2020 1:46 PM
robstazzz - 7 Jun 2020 1:35 PM

Simple question.  Did he say 'this is a great day for him' or not?

That's already been answered. Simple answer is yes. Yeh said hopefully he's looking down on us from above thinking it is a great day for his people, for America, and himself in regards to equality, not employment which is what the bullshit claim was.

So here's my simple question. How is that a bad thing to say?
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I can’t defend Trump on the “great day” comment. He is buried six feet deep and probably having his ball sack chewed out by maggots. Hardly a great day for him.

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I think Trump was trying to say that the economic figures are showing that African Americans are doing better under his administration and Floyd would be happy about that fact. 

He just delivered his message terribly in the typical Trump manner.

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Burztur - 7 Jun 2020 5:48 PM
I think Trump was trying to say that the economic figures are showing that African Americans are doing better under his administration and Floyd would be happy about that fact. 

He just delivered his message terribly in the typical Trump manner.

You need to listen to the interview he said nothing like that. 

The economic figures he was bragging about was a different topic. 

Trump was talking about a law where law enforcement treat everyone equally. He was saying George would be happy for his people and all Americans to know law enforcement have to treat everyone equally.
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Munrubenmuz - 7 Jun 2020 1:46 PM
robstazzz - 7 Jun 2020 1:35 PM

Simple question.  Did he say 'this is a great day for him' or not?

And as a corollary imagine your dad was killed by the police and then Scomo said this is a great day for Rob's dad.  I mean come on.  It's ridiculous you can even defend this clown.  

At the very least it was grossly inappropriate.

Like I said it had zero to do with the economy. And if those words were his only words than fair enough but what you know they weren't. 

If good comes out of this than there is nothing wrong with him saying that. 

If my dad was killed, and Scomo came out in support of my dad, and mentioned how similar events should never happen in future, then I would agree with Scomo that my dad would be looking down on us happy to see we've turned the corner. 

But regardless of all that, mainstream media made up lies and said that Trump said it is a great day for George, because of better employment opportunities. Now you know for a fact that isn't true, and it is way out of line of mainstream media to make something like this up. 

Imagine being George's kids, parents, friends, or partner and listening to that crap. You would boil inside with anger, only to then find out it wasn't true. 

Mainstream media should be ashamed of themselves, and anyone who supports them in making up lies, especially lies that affect the family and friends of someone that passed away. 

It's an absolute disgrace, and deep down inside you know it. You just won't admit it. 
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robstazzz - 7 Jun 2020 7:15 PM
Burztur - 7 Jun 2020 5:48 PM

You need to listen to the interview he said nothing like that. 

The economic figures he was bragging about was a different topic. 

Trump was talking about a law where law enforcement treat everyone equally. He was saying George would be happy for his people and all Americans to know law enforcement have to treat everyone equally.

What law is that? Is it a new law? Just doesn’t make sense to say that today is a great day.
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Burztur - 8 Jun 2020 9:24 AM
robstazzz - 7 Jun 2020 7:15 PM

What law is that? Is it a new law? Just doesn’t make sense to say that today is a great day.

That's a good question about the new law. I'm not sure if it is new, or an existing law where he's saying everyone deserves to be treated equally by law enforcement, and if not would be breaking the law. 

My guess is that it is a new law he is talking about, because it would be silly if he was talking about an existing law. 

Then again I could be wrong, but like I said earlier,  it is wrong of mainstream media to make up a lie, knowing very well it'll upset George's family. Everyone that listened to that speech knew very well Trump didn't say it is a great day for George because of employment on the rise. 



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robstazzz - 8 Jun 2020 12:41 PM
Burztur - 8 Jun 2020 9:24 AM

That's a good question about the new law. I'm not sure if it is new, or an existing law where he's saying everyone deserves to be treated equally by law enforcement, and if not would be breaking the law. 

My guess is that it is a new law he is talking about, because it would be silly if he was talking about an existing law. 

Then again I could be wrong, but like I said earlier,  it is wrong of mainstream media to make up a lie, knowing very well it'll upset George's family. Everyone that listened to that speech knew very well Trump didn't say it is a great day for George because of employment on the rise. 



I had a look at the White House website and I couldn’t see any new law announcement on equal treatment. Only economy and jobs related announcements. 
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Burztur - 8 Jun 2020 9:30 PM
robstazzz - 8 Jun 2020 12:41 PM

I had a look at the White House website and I couldn’t see any new law announcement on equal treatment. Only economy and jobs related announcements. 

Okay so he was most likely just talking about the current law in regards to equality. 

What I've posted below is from the article I posted earlier. 

During his Rose Garden presser on Friday, which mostly touted the shocking jobs report that revealed 2.5 million people are back to work, Trump took a moment to address the injustice Floyd faced from the Minneapolis Police and how he strongly believes change will happen following his death.

"Equal justice under the law must mean that every American receives equal treatment in every encounter with law enforcement regardless of race, color, gender, or creed," Trump said. "They have to receive fair treatment from law enforcement. They have to receive it. We all saw what happened last week. We can't let that happen."

He continued, "Hopefully, George is looking down right now and saying, 'This is a great day that's happening for our country.' It's a great day for him. It's a great day for everybody. This is a great day for everybody. This is a great day in terms of equality. It's really what our Constitution requires and it's what our country is all about."



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robstazzz - 8 Jun 2020 10:07 PM
Burztur - 8 Jun 2020 9:30 PM

Okay so he was most likely just talking about the current law in regards to equality. 

What I've posted below is from the article I posted earlier. 

During his Rose Garden presser on Friday, which mostly touted the shocking jobs report that revealed 2.5 million people are back to work, Trump took a moment to address the injustice Floyd faced from the Minneapolis Police and how he strongly believes change will happen following his death.

"Equal justice under the law must mean that every American receives equal treatment in every encounter with law enforcement regardless of race, color, gender, or creed," Trump said. "They have to receive fair treatment from law enforcement. They have to receive it. We all saw what happened last week. We can't let that happen."

He continued, "Hopefully, George is looking down right now and saying, 'This is a great day that's happening for our country.' It's a great day for him. It's a great day for everybody. This is a great day for everybody. This is a great day in terms of equality. It's really what our Constitution requires and it's what our country is all about."



Okay. That’s just confusing if he is talking about a great day despite it being current law. 
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Burztur - 9 Jun 2020 12:32 AM
robstazzz - 8 Jun 2020 10:07 PM

Okay. That’s just confusing if he is talking about a great day despite it being current law. 

I would also suggest that it's pretty insulting to George Floyd and his family if that's the case too. It could be considered worse than saying its a good day because of the jobs figures as literally nothing has changed. Perhaps the "evil leftist" media were being kind trying to link it to the jobs figures...


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mcjules - 9 Jun 2020 2:36 PM
Burztur - 9 Jun 2020 12:32 AM

I would also suggest that it's pretty insulting to George Floyd and his family if that's the case too. It could be considered worse than saying its a good day because of the jobs figures as literally nothing has changed. Perhaps the "evil leftist" media were being kind trying to link it to the jobs figures...

Yes perhaps you could believe that lie yourself, especially considering it is too hard to actually come out and say no they got this one wrong. 

Atleast I can admit it is stupid of Trump to say what he said, especially if there's been no change in law in regards to equality. 

Still doesn't excuse those in the media that came out and made lies, they're even worse, and have no moral stand to stand on. 
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robstazzz - 9 Jun 2020 4:56 PM
mcjules - 9 Jun 2020 2:36 PM

Yes perhaps you could believe that lie yourself, especially considering it is too hard to actually come out and say no they got this one wrong. 

Atleast I can admit it is stupid of Trump to say what he said, especially if there's been no change in law in regards to equality. 

Still doesn't excuse those in the media that came out and made lies, they're even worse, and have no moral stand to stand on. 

We just established what he said is confusing, confusing often means lots of different interpretations. So sure they lied. Keep believing that.

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mcjules - 9 Jun 2020 5:32 PM
robstazzz - 9 Jun 2020 4:56 PM

We just established what he said is confusing, confusing often means lots of different interpretations. So sure they lied. Keep believing that.

You don't have to be a rock scientist to work out he didn't say it is a great day for George because of employment. 

Clearly he was talking about the law. The only confusion was if it is an existing law he'll make sure will be respected, or a new law. 

So yeh keep believing your own lie. And don't forget to act like you care about George's family while you're at it. 
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robstazzz - 9 Jun 2020 6:40 PM
mcjules - 9 Jun 2020 5:32 PM

You don't have to be a rock scientist to work out he didn't say it is a great day for George because of employment. 

Clearly he was talking about the law. The only confusion was if it is an existing law he'll make sure will be respected, or a new law. 

So yeh keep believing your own lie. And don't forget to act like you care about George's family while you're at it. 

I think geologists would have as much trouble as anyone because the alternative makes less even sense than employment figures.

What did he say that will make sure the existing law will be respected? What did he say that's different to presidents of the recent past?

Why wouldn't I feel empathy for a grieving family? Pretty low to suggest otherwise.

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Geez, of all the things Trump has said, even in the last fortnight, THIS is what people are outraged over? 

I mean the guy threatened to kill looters last week. 

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I think geologists would have as much trouble as anyone because the alternative makes less even sense than employment figures.

What did he say that will make sure the existing law will be respected? What did he say that's different to presidents of the recent past?

Why wouldn't I feel empathy for a grieving family? Pretty low to suggest otherwise.

Listen to what he said I'm not going to post it 1 million times for it to be ignored. 

Like I said I'm happy to admit he shouldn't have said what he said, considering it wasn't a new law which is what I thought was the case when I first watched it. 

But regardless of that we all know, and you know it too, that at no point was he refereeing to the job employment improving under his presidency. 

The fact the media knew very well this was the case, yet chose to ignore it and manipulate his words is a low blow. Like I said they have no moral ground to stand on. 

As for yourself I say what I say, because instead of admitting it is wrong to make up lies, you're here defending the actions of straight out liars, and making excuses for them.

If you truly respect the feelings of the family you wouldn't happily back up lies about what Trump said. 

Just like I myself won't back Trump on what he said, once Buztur proved that there is no new law which is what I first thought. 
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robstazzz - 9 Jun 2020 9:37 PM

As for yourself I say what I say, because instead of admitting it is wrong to make up lies, you're here defending the actions of straight out liars, and making excuses for them.

Ha ok dude. 

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Tom Arnold on Twitter

”2nd Amendment is for everyone including black men with long guns but its fucking time for us white liberal men to stand up for our brothers & sisters. Borrow our dad’s hunting rifles & go nose to nose with Trump’s gang of misfit tools.  Let’s do it.”

Can’t find a single left wing website, politician or commentator condemning this violent call to arms.  Indeed its still trending on twitter, whilst much more benign republican/conservative tweets have been censored due to “promoting violence”.  

These shocking examples of double standards and hypocrisy are becoming more common and more bold everyday. If you cant abide by your own moral code how can you expect anyone else to? 
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rusty - 10 Jun 2020 1:47 PM
Tom Arnold on Twitter

”2nd Amendment is for everyone including black men with long guns but its fucking time for us white liberal men to stand up for our brothers & sisters. Borrow our dad’s hunting rifles & go nose to nose with Trump’s gang of misfit tools.  Let’s do it.”

Can’t find a single left wing website, politician or commentator condemning this violent call to arms.  Indeed its still trending on twitter, whilst much more benign republican/conservative tweets have been censored due to “promoting violence”.  

These shocking examples of double standards and hypocrisy are becoming more common and more bold everyday. If you cant abide by your own moral code how can you expect anyone else to? 

Haha what a fucking idiot. Promoting violence against Trump supporters 😂.



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https://www.insider.com/trump-breaks-record-most-tweets-in-a-single-day-2020-6

So in a 12 hour day that's a tweet or retweet every 3.6 minutes.  On a workday mind you.

Can a Trump supporter please explain how anyone can get any sort of work done if that's happening?


And where's Mr Gock gone? I was hoping he'd explain how Trump's 'very best people' keep getting sacked or resign.


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Munrubenmuz - 10 Jun 2020 10:23 PM
https://www.insider.com/trump-breaks-record-most-tweets-in-a-single-day-2020-6

So in a 12 hour day that's a tweet or retweet every 3.6 minutes.  On a workday mind you.

Can a Trump supporter please explain how anyone can get any sort of work done if that's happening?


And where's Mr Gock gone? I was hoping he'd explain how Trump's 'very best people' keep getting sacked or resign.

To be fair, when I'm sitting on the loo, I can scroll and click pretty quickly
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