Hence WA's stance.

I think he's a prick but then you see what's happening here and you can understand his thinking.

Wonder why more men than women die from Covid.

Well it's not "supposedly" less deadly or severe.  It IS less deadly. There is plenty of supporting evidence across the world to show that now. 

Doesn't change the fact it is a dangerous virus for many and that vaccines + boosters are the best tool we currently have to minimise the risks.  

Haven't seen anything other than theories relating to lifestyle factors/co-morbidities etc.  You would think by now we'd have some studies on this by now 

As long as people pay taxes, medicare levies and private health insurance then everyone is doing their bit. 

We've got the Victorian government building taxpayer funded drug injecting rooms. For people to undertake an illegal activity. 
Medical services swamped no doubt by many people with drug induced medical issues. 

So until we apply that logic in other areas of society, I think it's business as usual. 

Will say that I was wrong about the lethality of Omicron when I said it's on par with the flu.

Obviously not.

Can only hope this peak passes quickly.

Cesspit told you so

Muz 
Question is are we comparing apples and apples. 

This article explains a little further. 

https://www.afr.com/politics/federal/the-17-000-flu-linked-deaths-no-one-is-talking-about-20210903-p58oqq

So basically 40/46 people in the over 60s bracket which we knew all along

I read a few days ago during the QLD press conference they said along the lines of being happy (content) with the virus in aged care because of the high vaccination rates. But meanwhile face masks on buses are critical and school can't start for 2 weeks

The deaths stop when Australia stops with the superficial general public restrictions and puts real / meaningful long term solutions into the aged care and health sectors. Not just procedures and policies but also lifestyle changes

Its not that we need to get used to the fact that life has changed and we now have to wear masks on buses. Its that people have to get used to the fact that life has changed for the vulnerable and it means visits to aged care look different. It means how we move around elderly relatives looks different. It means the elderly also have to be extra cautious and look at how the conduct themselves. I think I read a while ago South Korea had a lockdown for the over 60s and it wasnt a new idea either

All the tests, tracing, restrictions, resources etc... need to be be in those two areas. For the elderly or the sick there is no amount of vaccines or boosters that can make this not a threat

For everybody who is under 60 and double vaxxed, without significant health issues, it is a less "severe" virus and largely manageable. Treating this the same for everybody just means a bunch of 20 year olds with a runny nose flooding the hospital system and taking valuable testing resources away from those who need it most

Besides the selfishness of this statement and the obvious flaws in it, like the burden these unvaccinated people are placing on resources and diverting attention, do you know the costs it takes to care for all these people in hospital. It can range into the hundreds of thousands for each patient. So as a community we will have to pay hundreds of millions more....but hey they pay their taxes, or does it get deducted from their centrelink first?

Maybe we should all call an ambulance if we have a headache, waste their time...I mean like who cares, I pay my taxes so I own them.

Can you give us information onto his burden. 
Sources please. 

You dismissed my whole previous post if you want to talk about burdens. 
Please make your point about burdens form druggies, fatties, alcoholics, smokers, thrillseekers etc. 

Then we can discuss further. 

Otherwise your a waste of time and continue to go on tangents and avoid points I make. 

To the other forumites. 
Is this guy the JohnSmith version on the flipside ?

lol you want to compare to cigarettes? 
Well for starters they pay 2 billion a year (close to) in tax. You lot want to throw that into the hospital system?
Not to mention it's highly regulated, is illegal indoors anywhere at all in the country, even outdoors it's not allowed hardly anywhere in the country, is illegal for minors...I mean the list goes on. 

You want those regulations on yourself do you?

Yes. 
If I'm infected then I won't be allowed to be at indoor public venues. 
If I'm uninfected then I'm fine. 

Like smokers. Cant smoke indoors 
But can still attend venue while not smoking. 

By the way. 
You love cherry picking. 

Now do the druggies. Drug injecting rooms. And mental health services. 

Every single thing you have mentioned here is regulated to some extent by the Government in order to reduce the burden on the health care system (bar "thrillseekers" which is a bit hard to work out what you. are referring to). 

You are kind of proving tsf right.

cherry picking? You wrote it ffs lol

and OMFG, You think that drug injecting rooms take up the same medical resources that covid patients are?

And you do know that drugs are illegal, again - highly regulated.

lol I know. People crossing the road on the red?

On red?!
You're a bloody madman, too intense for my blood!

Exactly. Even drug injecting rooms are a leftfield solution to wasting the time of ambos and doctors to something preventable, reducing a burden,

not a thrillseeker obviously lol

Yes. 
Cherry picking you know what it means don't you. 

And you did it again. 
Just mention drug injecting rooms. Ignored mental health services. 
Then also criminal activity and police resources 

Smokers and alcoholics. 
Yes there is a tax. 
But everyone that wants to drink and smoke shares in paying that tax. 
Now if they just charged for medical services rendered then that's fine. 
Fatties - junk food is cheap and not taxed. Yet. 
Thirllseekers. - extreme sports accidents. High risk. They should pay for any medical services needed. 

Now druggies - how do they pay for taking up medical and police services ??

No. Tsf is not right. 

Skimming over everything I love how it’s now at a point where you’re comparing your position to a junkie on the street. 

The government reduces the burden of the impact of drugs on society by prohibiting them.

Thought that was the most obvious one. 

As for "fatties" it's not as simple as fast food = bad.  Various governments spend billions on participation in sport funding, awareness campaigns and the like.  Why do you think that is?

Wow. Just wow. 
Reading and comprehension definitely not your forte. 

I'm not comparing myself to anyone. 
You said unvaxxed should forego medical treatment 
My point was that others should do the same and you should be for that as well. 
Then fuck knows what registered in your brain and took you in all different directions. 

And it's telling that the other forumites aren't supporting you because you seem like an imbecile. 

You and JohnSmith seem to be one and the same. 
Lunatics that think the vaccine will kill you or lunatics that think the unvaccinated will all die. 
One and the same. 
And should be avoided. 

Have a good weekend. 
Enough chatting to imbeciles like you. 

For all other mature people 

Interesting read. 

It's definitely a pandemic of the chronically ill, immunocompromised, old and frail or other serious underlying health issues. 

For most healthy people under 65 it will be a mild virus. 
Finally we are getting more information from the government. 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10425085/Covid-19-Australia-Diabetes-obesity-underlying-health-conditions-coronavirus-deaths.html

‘For mature people’. Posts a link from daily mail. 

You would classify asthma, something that around 10% of the population has, as one of these?

What about high blood pressure? 

A huge percentage of our population have at least one comorbidity and live otherwise healthy lives.  

That's just what the NSW CHO said. 

Don't shoot the messenger. 

There are existing health conditions that Covid makes worse or lethal, and existing health conditions that Covid has no impact on

This is not a one sized fits all approach. A one sized fits all approach usually represents an 80% majority so whichever one sized fits all approach you choose, there will always be a vulnerable 20% who are worse off

We need a targeted approach and that starts with the realisation that this doesnt impact us all equally

More common sense happening around the world. 

The Irish government has agreed to lift almost all of its Covid-19 restrictions from Saturday, Taoiseach ( Prime Minister) Micheál Martin has said.