Coronavirus Megathread


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sydneyfc1987 - 29 Sep 2020 1:30 PM
paladisious - 29 Sep 2020 12:08 PM

Yeah but how many of those were actually car accidents?

2,900 of the people that were killed on 9/11 already had obesity or the common cold or whatever, so really only 100 or so were killed purely by terrorism.
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paladisious - 29 Sep 2020 8:15 PM
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2,900 of the people that were killed on 9/11 already had obesity or the common cold or whatever, so really only 100 or so were killed purely by terrorism.

How come we always hear about the people who died in 9/11 but not the thousands who died from Cancer or suicide on the same day?

Typical media trying to scare to scare us when 9/11 had a 99.9997% survival rate. It was just a little crash.

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13 is pretty expected for a Wednesday considering where we're at, I'm confident for a few consecutive days of single digits around the weekend.

The 14 day average may drop even lower with reclassifications.
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sydneyfc1987 - 29 Sep 2020 8:46 PM
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How come we always hear about the people who died in 9/11 but not the thousands who died from Cancer or suicide on the same day?

Typical media trying to scare to scare us when 9/11 had a 99.9997% survival rate. It was just a little crash.

6,612 people in the US died of other causes on September 11, 2001; the attacks didn't even make up a third of all deaths for the day. 

The US population had a 99.99900815% survival rate.

Jet fuel can't melt bat soup.
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Ivermectin Could Turn COVID-19 Around. We Need To Find Out If It Works


Excerpts from an article appearing in Trial Site News on 1 October, 2020. It was written by Mary Beth Pfeiffer.

https://www.trialsitenews.com/ivermectin-could-turn-covid-19-around-we-need-to-find-out-if-it-works/

In fairness to Ms. Pfeiffer, please click on the link if you read more than one paragraph so she gets the credit. I've posted more excerpts than I ought to have done.. But I know that it's only to be expected that people won't bother clicking on links, so this was the only effective way to relate the all-important specifics of her article.


  • In the Australian experiment, first reported in April, ivermectin prompted a 5,000-fold reduction in COVID-19 viruses in a petri dish, essentially killing all particles.  
  • One Bangladesh study found that 100 ivermectin-treated patients “tested negative and their symptoms improved within 72 hours.” Another retrospective review of 248 patients there, found that 115 who received ivermectin were far less likely to need oxygen or intensive care, or to die from COVID-19. 
  • In the Dominican Republic, a large medical system treated 1,300 COVID patients with ivermectin and azithromycin, and declared 99 percent cured. 
  • In Egypt, ivermectin played a “highly significant role” in protecting 203 family members of COVID patients; just 7 percent of treated people became infected with the virus compared to nearly 60 percent who were not treated.


For the "Australian experiment", credit to Dr. Kylie Wagstaff from Monash University for leading the lab study, not rushing to any hasty conclusions as to how it could work clinically but suggesting that more research was needed to find out if it also works safely in vivo (when human beings take it).

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Such findings have led Thomas Borody, an Australian doctor famous for a cure for stomach ulcers, to propose a COVID therapy of ivermectin, doxycycline and zinc.


Borody argues that doxycycline enhances the efficacy of ivermectin. He thinks there's a synergetic effect in ivermectin, doxycycline and zinc which means that safe doses can be used to clear COVID in vivo.


While the virus is multiplying in early infection, ivermectin is believed to inhibit a key receptor that opens the door for viral proteins to enter the nucleus of cells and replicate. Later on, the drug may inhibit the virus from adhering to CD147 receptors on red blood cells and forming clumps, the process that can lead to dangerous clots and stroke.


That's why it might work.


Some, but not enough, U.S. doctors are quietly using ivermectin for COVID, often combining it with hydroxychloroquine, azithromycin and zinc. “When someone’s sick, there’s more likely a synergy between these agents,” said Dr. Steven Phillips of Wilton, Ct. Some patients got better on antibiotics alone, Phillips said, while others told him ivermectin wasa “game changer.”   



“Its major ‘disadvantage’ is its low cost and general availability,” Dr. Jose Natalio Redondo, a hospital executive in the Dominican Republic, told me. “There is no major revenue for those large pharmaceutical industries to invest in new research and production of this drug.”


Ironic that it being cheap can be a disadvantage. But it does make sense. Can we take it for granted that big pharmaceutical companies would really push expensive studies on a drug when they can't make any profit off that drug?


On its website, the FDA states: “While there are approved uses for ivermectin in people and animals, it is not approved for the prevention or treatment of COVID-19.” The agency warned against taking ivermectin formulations meant for animals – it is used to prevent heartworm in dogs, for example — noting more studies are needed to determine whether it works for COVID-19 in people. The question is: Will we get them? In the meantime, doctors still may use ivermectin off-label, a common practice in which drugs are prescribed for other-than approved ailments. 


This is important. There's a version of ivermectin which is safe for human use. And a version of ivermectin which is intended for animals. These two versions are not to be confused. There can be disastrous consequences when people take the version intended for animal use.

Unfortunately, it's necessary for the FDA to remind people. And the mere fact that the FDA has made such a warning (and that people conflate the two versions of ivermectin) leads to extra scepticism about whether the version designed for human beings could treat SARS-CoV-2.

We still don't know. There's lack of investigation. Meanwhile, one million people around the world have lost their lives. Staggering.
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Apparently more people have tested positive to Covid-19 from Trump's campaign in the last 24hrs... than in all of Australia and New Zealand combined.
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Interesting article. Apparently, doctors and clinicians in Sweden who've spoken out against the official line (from the Public Health Agency) have faced a lot of condemnation (professionally and from the public).

Here are excerpts from an article written by Gretchen Vogen. The article appeared in Science magazine on 6 October, 2020.

‘It’s been so, so surreal.’ Critics of Sweden’s lax pandemic policies face fierce backlash


... Sweden adopted strikingly different policies from those of other European countries, out of a desire to avoid disrupting daily life—and perhaps the hope that, by paying an immediate price in illness, the country could achieve “herd immunity” and put the pandemic behind it.

Swedish authorities actively discouraged people from wearing face masks, which they said would spread panic, are often worn the wrong way, and can provide a false sense of safety. Some doctors who insisted on wearing a mask at work have been reprimanded or even fired.

Until last month, Sweden’s official policy stated people without obvious symptoms are very unlikely to spread the virus. So instead of being quarantined or asked to stay home, family members, colleagues, and classmates of confirmed cases had to attend school and show up for work, unless they had symptoms themselves. Testing in Sweden still lags behind many other countries, and in many districts infected people are expected to notify their own contacts—in contrast to, say, Germany and Norway, where small armies of contact tracers help track down people who may have been exposed.

[A group of scientists and doctors in Sweden who disagree with Sweden's handling of the pandemic]...says the price for Sweden’s laissez-faire approach has been too high. The country’s cumulative death rate since the beginning of the pandemic rivals that of the United States, with its shambolic response. And the virus took a shocking toll on the most vulnerable. It had free rein in nursing homes, where nearly 1000 people died in a matter of weeks. Stockholm’s nursing homes ended up losing 7% of their 14,000 residents to the virus. The vast majority were not taken to hospitals. Although infections waned over the summer, scientists worry a new wave will hit in the fall. Cases are rising rapidly in the greater Stockholm area, where almost one-quarter of the Swedish population lives.

The group’s criticism has not been welcomed—indeed, some of the critics say they have been pilloried or reprimanded. “It has been so, so surreal,” says Nele Brusselaers, a member of the Vetenskapsforum and a clinical epidemiologist at the prestigious Karolinska Institute (KI). It is strange, she says, to face backlash “even though we are saying just what researchers internationally are saying. It’s like it’s a different universe.”

Soon, infections surged. By late March, more than 30 COVID-19 patients were being admitted to ICUs every day. By early April, Sweden was recording about 90 deaths from the virus daily—a significant undercount, critics say, because many died without getting tested. Hospitals did not become as overwhelmed as those in northern Italy or New York City, but that was in part because many severely ill patients weren’t hospitalized. A 17 March directive to Stockholm area hospitals stated patients older than 80 or with a body mass index above 40 should not be admitted to intensive care, because they were less likely to recover. Most nursing homes were not equipped to administer oxygen, so many residents instead received morphine to alleviate their suffering. Newspaper reports told stories of people who died after being turned away from emergency rooms because they were deemed too young to suffer serious COVID-19 complications.


Sweden’s light approach is more sustainable than the harsher methods used in other countries, [Anders] Tegnell also argues. He regrets the death toll in nursing homes, he told Science, and says Sweden should have made it easier financially for caregivers to stay home. “It was a very bad situation for a month,” he says, “but after that it changed completely.” Once strong restrictions were in place, transmission in nursing homes “became lower than in the community.” Tegnell has also said he suspects the number of infections and deaths in other countries will eventually match Sweden’s. [Lara] Einhorn finds this absurd: “If Norway ever catches up to Sweden in the proportion of people killed by COVID-19,” she says, “I’ll eat my hat.”


https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/10/it-s-been-so-so-surreal-critics-sweden-s-lax-pandemic-policies-face-fierce-backlash

Staggering that scientists and doctors can be denounced, and even lose their jobs, simply for saying what the majority of other experts elsewhere in the world are saying.


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Ahhhh Avi Yameni the wife beater. 

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sydneyfc1987 - 13 Oct 2020 8:35 PM

Ahhhh Avi Yameni the wife beater. 

Sadly a lot of people like him and ignore that fact
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i have no care or know of that guy mentioned but for the Dan skit itself is pretty well done.


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sydneyfc1987 - 13 Oct 2020 8:35 PM

Ahhhh Avi Yameni the wife beater. 

Well that's the least surprised I've ever been to learn of someone being a wife beater. Just read some of the articles about his case. What a despicable man.
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sounds like a rotten POS, one covid should get its hands on.
Like I said, never heard or know anything about him but what's been posted here.
I just copied a link that was sent re the Dan skit as said was done well.


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He had some interesting pieces on the HK protests.
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Melbourne re-opens tomorrow night.

Well done all, here's hoping you can begin to recover now.

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Guess what TV station she works for: https://twitter.com/CMMortlock/status/1320524506394341377?s=19
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Yeah who the fuck are these reporters asking shit questions?

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"Get on the beers" trending on twitter. We did it lads.

I wouldn't put it past my local to actually open at 11:59pm tomorrow lol

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paulbagzFC - 26 Oct 2020 4:45 PM
Yeah who the fuck are these reporters asking shit questions?

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They all work for murdoch. They go full mental when credlin is there. Also for someone who stated she'll be at every presser dan does she was there for half of them as she doesn't work weekends
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paladisious - 26 Oct 2020 5:18 PM
"Get on the beers" trending on twitter. We did it lads.

I wouldn't put it past my local to actually open at 11:59pm tomorrow lol


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paladisious - 26 Oct 2020 5:18 PM
"Get on the beers" trending on twitter. We did it lads.

I wouldn't put it past my local to actually open at 11:59pm tomorrow lol

We booked in for parmies and pots lunchtime wednesday..... the boss is gonna be soooooo pissed off if we make it back to work...,
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Ladies and gentlemen, please rise for the state anthem of Victoria.
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paladisious - 27 Oct 2020 1:02 AM
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Ladies and gentlemen, please rise for the state anthem of Victoria.



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Another day of no new cases. So good.

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mcjules - 27 Oct 2020 10:56 AM
Another day of no new cases. So good.

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if nothing else just read the summary, cheers

https://medium.com/applied-data-science/coronavirus-in-context-93e03bfdc151

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France and Germany going back into lockdown: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-54716993
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dirkvanadidas - 27 Oct 2020 10:03 PM

It's got some interesting data but its a bit hard to accept that because lots of people died 35 years ago from things that are now better managed/prevented that we shouldn't try and prevent many people dying from this virus. Also the mortality rate they calculate for this year is what it is because most governments have made some effort at least to control the spread. I don't see it as a great argument for cringey statements like "preventing 1985 looking like 1984".

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Interesting that Peru is leading the world in death rate per capita, so far with around 30,000 deaths, yet antibody tests reveal around 35% of the country has has corona. If we assume herd immunity kicks in around 70%, that would mean around 60-70k of Peruvians would die of covid. 

That works out about 0.2% of the population, or 1 in 500.

Roughly the same mortality rate as the flu.



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