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+x+x+xNo one can do or say anything to satisfy today, from either side of the game. What a future we all have but we'll be right lots of experts today knowing what happens behind the scenes and all. When the shoe is on the other foot its the same outcome, whinge whinge whinge. Sorry but was 100% expecting this one from you. I'm sure you'll be silent when (who knows when?) Labor are in government. Logistically this rollout is huge and complex, that doesn't mean the Feds shouldn't be held accountable for talking big like how we're "in the front of the queue" and that they're going to deliver millions of doses. They haven't even administered a fraction of all the doses they have in supply at the moment. Forget handing out travel vouchers to destinations in coalition held seats (and photo ops where the PM poses in costume with a shit eating grin), the single most important project the government needs to deliver this year is this vaccine rollout. I'm not sure if I am reading this right but you see to be blaming the federal government for a state issue. This was the situation after week 1 https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-03-02/charting-australias-covid-vaccine-rollout/13197518Not sure what today's figures look like because I cant find % of allocation but here are total numbers after week 2 Getting vaccinated for COVID-19 | Australian Government Department of HealthIf you look at the big players and assuming ratios the same, NSW 21k / ~ 28k, Federal 24k / ~ 28k, Victoria 14k / ~ 25k But you seem to be blaming the federal government? What Australia got right during the coronavirus was closing the borders compared to other countries that stayed open. And a natural level of compliance which means any viral activity in the community sorts itself out (with no repeat reinfections from new patient zeros). The only issues are known to known transmission which we can break apart with contact tracing and isolation (no need for lockdowns) and infected people leaving their region which is something that needs tougher penalties What Australia got wrong was the constant squabbling and different leaders doing their own thing. Politics has essentially ruined this and if anything else, this needs to be the learning point. Hopefully next pandemic we can come up with a single and uniform approach Yes the Feds are responsible for supply of the vaccines and also the administering of it in Federal aged care facilities. So yes it is a Federal issue. they don't get to wash their hands of it like they have everything else. The states, particularly my own state, are not doing a great job of administering doses either. We can't have our borders closed forever, the vaccine rollout here and everywhere is critical to ending that. Guess who pushed for the states to take control of this themselves...
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Queenslands turn again. On the surface of things it looks like they are taking a common sense approach, maybe because they realised how badly they got things wrong last time
Looks like they are going to wait the 72 hours to see where things are at before hitting the general public with rules and restrictions. The next 3 days will be critical. Not for the virus which we know there is minimal to no transmission, but whether a response team can refrain from overreacting and usher in a new age of coronavirus response
If Queensland can push through this without haphazardly introducing rules then it puts a few runs on the board for outbreaks managed without restrictions, and puts a higher level of confidence in such an approach (as opposed to the "go hard and go early" strategy which was nothing more than specious reasoning)
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+x+xNo one can do or say anything to satisfy today, from either side of the game. What a future we all have but we'll be right lots of experts today knowing what happens behind the scenes and all. When the shoe is on the other foot its the same outcome, whinge whinge whinge. Sorry but was 100% expecting this one from you. I'm sure you'll be silent when (who knows when?) Labor are in government. Logistically this rollout is huge and complex, that doesn't mean the Feds shouldn't be held accountable for talking big like how we're "in the front of the queue" and that they're going to deliver millions of doses. They haven't even administered a fraction of all the doses they have in supply at the moment. Forget handing out travel vouchers to destinations in coalition held seats (and photo ops where the PM poses in costume with a shit eating grin), the single most important project the government needs to deliver this year is this vaccine rollout. just because we are on opposite sides of the river why saying expecting this from me ? I would expect that reply more towards those louder posters like a rusty/enzo's and others. I'm mild overall posting for there isn't much discussion here but shouting one down and/or smug one line remarks most of the times. By the way I sure will post when useless Labour gets in again believe me just as I am whilst useless Libs are in to many here. Your all angry people ? who enjoy posting your POV's BUT do you know the "facts" in the big picture, why is there roll out issues yaddayadda, what do any of us know. Who is in the backrooms of the Feds whilst they have been making decisions ? none here I'm sure and are you to tell me/us your to believe journo's no matter who's side of the fence they bat on ? The media are the ones more so not to trust imo. Oh being the roll out isn't going to plan lets hit out about the "travel package" stimulous as well - well bugger me, lets not have our tax payer $$$$'s used for anything in the future, tell that to the many "local" suffering business's who may gain a little more patronage than they have experienced the last 12mths, oh hang on some have closed their doors. Yes yes I know you'll harp on about the Lib "favouritism" towards held seats, I not supportive of that believe me if so but if the shoe was on the red foot they would do the same. Live long and prosper mcjules.
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mcjules
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+x+x+xNo one can do or say anything to satisfy today, from either side of the game. What a future we all have but we'll be right lots of experts today knowing what happens behind the scenes and all. When the shoe is on the other foot its the same outcome, whinge whinge whinge. Sorry but was 100% expecting this one from you. I'm sure you'll be silent when (who knows when?) Labor are in government. Logistically this rollout is huge and complex, that doesn't mean the Feds shouldn't be held accountable for talking big like how we're "in the front of the queue" and that they're going to deliver millions of doses. They haven't even administered a fraction of all the doses they have in supply at the moment. Forget handing out travel vouchers to destinations in coalition held seats (and photo ops where the PM poses in costume with a shit eating grin), the single most important project the government needs to deliver this year is this vaccine rollout. just because we are on opposite sides of the river why saying expecting this from me ? I would expect that reply more towards those louder posters like a rusty/enzo's and others. I'm mild overall posting for there isn't much discussion here but shouting one down and/or smug one line remarks most of the times. By the way I sure will post when useless Labour gets in again believe me just as I am whilst useless Libs are in to many here. Your all angry people ? who enjoy posting your POV's BUT do you know the "facts" in the big picture, why is there roll out issues yaddayadda, what do any of us know. Who is in the backrooms of the Feds whilst they have been making decisions ? none here I'm sure and are you to tell me/us your to believe journo's no matter who's side of the fence they bat on ? The media are the ones more so not to trust imo. Oh being the roll out isn't going to plan lets hit out about the "travel package" stimulous as well - well bugger me, lets not have our tax payer $$$$'s used for anything in the future, tell that to the many "local" suffering business's who may gain a little more patronage than they have experienced the last 12mths, oh hang on some have closed their doors. Yes yes I know you'll harp on about the Lib "favouritism" towards held seats, I not supportive of that believe me if so but if the shoe was on the red foot they would do the same. Live long and prosper mcjules. You too mate :laugh: Seriously though, I didn't mean that you were by any stretch in the same category as those you mentioned. You and I aren't too different I think, just have different opinions as you say. I did though have to point out that your opinion would be different if the people in power were different :)
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;) all cool mcjules.... I know we have some common ground and life would be boring if everyone had same opinions :). Trouble today is alot don't respect that and criticise even though they know NO better with their one eyed POV. Anyway back on track...... https://www.theage.com.au/world/europe/germany-italy-france-to-halt-astrazeneca-shots-further-hitting-eu-vaccination-campaign-20210316-p57b08.htmlInteresting - glad we are no where near EU's/USA problems with covid.
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Scotty has spent the last few days he's not worried at all about what's happening in Europe with AstraZeneca.......
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Maybe we should look at buying more Pfizer or Moderna.
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+xQueenslands turn again. On the surface of things it looks like they are taking a common sense approach, maybe because they realised how badly they got things wrong last time Looks like they are going to wait the 72 hours to see where things are at before hitting the general public with rules and restrictions. The next 3 days will be critical. Not for the virus which we know there is minimal to no transmission, but whether a response team can refrain from overreacting and usher in a new age of coronavirus response If Queensland can push through this without haphazardly introducing rules then it puts a few runs on the board for outbreaks managed without restrictions, and puts a higher level of confidence in such an approach (as opposed to the "go hard and go early" strategy which was nothing more than specious reasoning) You don't need to concern yourself with our state mate. -PB
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+xScotty has spent the last few days he's not worried at all about what's happening in Europe with AstraZeneca....... I'm not really worried about it either to be honest. 30 out of 5 million doses is statistically tiny and doesn't appear to be any different than the amount of people that might get blood clots in the general population in normal circumstances.
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+x+xScotty has spent the last few days he's not worried at all about what's happening in Europe with AstraZeneca....... I'm not really worried about it either to be honest. 30 out of 5 million doses is statistically tiny and doesn't appear to be any different than the amount of people that might get blood clots in the general population in normal circumstances. correct, for now any report makes some in the world to "sniff" oh housten we have a problem. and then you read another article that quotes this : The WHO said that as of March 12, more than 300 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines had been administered around the world with no deaths found to have been caused by any of them.
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+x+x+xScotty has spent the last few days he's not worried at all about what's happening in Europe with AstraZeneca....... I'm not really worried about it either to be honest. 30 out of 5 million doses is statistically tiny and doesn't appear to be any different than the amount of people that might get blood clots in the general population in normal circumstances. correct, for now any report makes some in the world to "sniff" oh housten we have a problem. and then you read another article that quotes this : The WHO said that as of March 12, more than 300 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines had been administered around the world with no deaths found to have been caused by any of them. Yeah but wait until the 5G rollout is done and the microchips get turned on. Then you'll see deaths skyrocket.
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+x+xScotty has spent the last few days he's not worried at all about what's happening in Europe with AstraZeneca....... I'm not really worried about it either to be honest. 30 out of 5 million doses is statistically tiny and doesn't appear to be any different than the amount of people that might get blood clots in the general population in normal circumstances. Sure. But if I ordered a few million I’d definitely be keeping one eye on it.
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I will eat my hat if they get within six months of what they promised.
The world is at nearly 500 million doses administered. We need about 5 million done in the next few weeks to be at where they promised.
When Scotty said we'd be at the front of the queue, we shouldve known he meant himself.
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Tried to get some up to date info on the app. But it appears they have given it up. 10 million to develop and work around the app. 60 Million on advertising. What an investment for 17 traces!
Liberals - great with money hey...and yes I cannot stand these crooks.
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trouble is angry man there is no win win, Labour would be squandering just as much and more...... Were surrounded by crooks, always have been.
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+xI will eat my hat if they get within six months of what they promised. The world is at nearly 500 million doses administered. We need about 5 million done in the next few weeks to be at where they promised. When Scotty said we'd be at the front of the queue, we shouldve known he meant himself. Vaccine distribution seems to be in shambles atm. Seems like there is a scramble to get 100 clinics up and running to do another 1k shots each per week.
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+xLabour would be squandering just as much and more...... Were surrounded by crooks, always have been. The old 'they're all as bad as each other'. Your answer is a hypothetical. The Liberals complete incompetency has ZERO to do with the opposition political party. Also leave out the personal attacks.
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that true thankfully they are NOT in a position of power praise the lord, hypothetically speaking they still would be as bad/wrong as the current :). your 3 in a row posts read you in anger no ? if the comment offended I'll take it back.
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+xthat true thankfully they are NOT in a position of power praise the lord, hypothetically speaking they still would be as bad/wrong as the current :). your 3 in a row posts read you in anger no ? if the comment offended I'll take it back. How can anyone be happy with an utterly corrupt unaccountable government?
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Queensland going into lockdown due to lack of vaccine coverage. Every time this happens now the criticism of the Feds for their bungling of the distribution is rightly going to grow louder.
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+xQueensland going into lockdown due to lack of vaccine coverage. Every time this happens now the criticism of the Feds for their bungling of the distribution is rightly going to grow louder. Bungled? They're at 500k doses today. They're only 3.5 million behind where they promised they'd be. Give 'em a break, all those PR announcements took precedence and took up time.
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I'm ok with the rollout. We're relatively unaffected on a global scale, we're helping our Pacific neighbours out and we're going to be producing our own soon which is important. So yeah, could be better but OK so far. Always will be hiccups. If nothing else this pandemic has gone to show how fragile global supply chains are. If we increase our self reliance it can only be a good thing.
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I mean there's so much low hanging fruit with Scomo and his sex pest ministers why concentrate on the vaccine rollout? Anyway it's Queensland and they shut the border every 5 minutes so they can go into lockdown jail for a while. Wish a giant outbreak would shut down WA for a bit. (No serious illness or deaths obviously.)
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+xI'm ok with the rollout. We're relatively unaffected on a global scale, we're helping our Pacific neighbours out and we're going to be producing our own soon which is important. So yeah, could be better but OK so far. Always will be hiccups. If nothing else this pandemic has gone to show how fragile global supply chains are. If we increase our self reliance it can only be a good thing. interesting article about our help https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2021/mar/17/png-could-already-have-vaccines-if-australia-had-not-blocked-waiver-says-msf
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That is interesting.
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+xQueensland going into lockdown due to lack of vaccine coverage. Every time this happens now the criticism of the Feds for their bungling of the distribution is rightly going to grow louder. Thats not correct QLD are going into lockdown because Australia refuses to give up its lockdown and facemask approach At what stage during the vaccine rollout can we guarentee there wont be one primary case and 4 associated contacts, 2 known, 2 linked through workplaces? The vaccine rollout is a logistical nightmare and will take time due to the requirement of a second dose. This all comes back to acceptable risk Every plan for Easter for most people in QLD fucked up, same for those who planned on going there, and same for all national leagues I had hoped QLD's initial response was going to usher in a new era. But no. This is an all of 2021 thing
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My missus was trying to get me to book an interstate holiday on the weekend. Lol no chance with the way this lot closes borders.
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+xMy missus was trying to get me to book an interstate holiday on the weekend. Lol no chance with the way this lot closes borders. Just got back from the gold coast on Saturday, we were worried before we left after the case with the doctor having it and hoping it wouldn't get worse... we managed to squeeze our trip in between that and this little outbreak. So stressful we cancelled and get ALL our money back on two previous trips. Then of course It goes and has apocalyptic style rain for most of the time we were there. Haha we seriously got a watch and act text message within 30 mins of landing there.
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