That is a sign of a heart seething with misinformation and prejudice. You need to follow the science.

Dr Geert Vanden Bossche explained the science in his video, "The Implication of Massive Vaccination During the Pandemic". This is what the world establishment did, and the consequences are now happening according to the model. It's mostly the vaxxed who are coming down with Covid.

https://www.voiceforscienceandsolidarity.org/videos/videos-interviews

I challenge you. Even if you'll never agree with Dr. Vanden Bossche, at least view his video, "The Implication of Massive Vaccination During the Pandemic" -- and see how the science explains what is happening:

1. initial success of the vaccines against earlier variants (Alpha)
2. rise of future variants (Omicron) where the Vaxxed people's immune systems cannot cope with future variants
3. damage to the vaxxers' immune systems
4. rampant new Covid variants

Already this week, European Union regulators are waning of the danger of damage to your immune system from the MRNA vaxes.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-01-11/repeat-booster-shots-risk-overloading-immune-system-ema-says

In other words, you blaming the un-vaxed for all this is pure prejudice fuelled by a wanton refusal to even familiarise yourself with how scientists on the other side have predicted what is happening now.

When you see the food rotting in the fields, it is a crying shame that all this could have been prevented if the Masses had been willing to listen to evidence that $3 Ivermectin has an efficacy of around 68% based on peer reviewed studies, versus a vaccine that wanes to zero in about 4 months:

https://ivmmeta.com/
https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/it-s-obscene-farmers-dump-produce-as-supply-chain-crisis-bites-20220112-p59nln.html

Ivermectin is not a guarantee, but I know enough people who've used it, and it worked. (I also know people who did, and it didn't work - which bears out the 68% efficacy rating). But if Australia had not banned Ivermectin, you would not see the chaos tsunami that is about to unfold. With empty shelves and crops being mown back into the dirt, the impending disaster hasn't got into gear yet. And it could have been prevented with some simple open-mindedness to review data on Ivermectin. Instead, you got conned by the propaganda that Ivermectin is "horse medicine" and merely a "de-wormer". You were conned, because you don't realise there is a history of known medicines being re-purposed for other uses. So just because it has been used as a parasitic, the science of re-purposing of drugs meant it was discovered that the properties were effective against Covid, at least to an efficacy of 68%. That's a heap better than the efficacy of the vaccines after 4 months, as you can see with the vaxxers all getting Covid.

p/s as proof of how close-minded some of you are, I bet there'll be some who continue to mock me for the error of posting the news.com.au article, rather than considering the data I offer above. Australians used to be characterised by a basic fair-mindedness, but things are changing with the generations.

I think you post too much
it just all looks like noise and a lot of it seems to be repeated 

try to be more succinct to make your points.

At least he's trying to make a point.   You're some sort of faux contrarian multi.  

"Vitamin D deficiency was found in 82.2% of COVID-19 cases ... Vitamin D-deficient COVID-19 patients had ... longer length of hospital stay than those with [Vitamin D] levels ≥ [ 50 nmol/l ].

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34932810/

In terms of Australian data, years ago the Department of Health indicates that about a quarter of Australians have less than 50 nmol/L.

https://www.health.gov.au/resources/pregnancy-care-guidelines/part-g-targeted-maternal-health-tests/vitamin-d-status

That means a quarter of Australians are at the level of needing longer hospital stays, because of low Vitamin D.

Of course we know that sun can cause skin cancer, so the iOS and Android app DMINDER calculates the number of minutes after which burning starts, depending on skin type.

So you see, it wasn't totally nonsense when an earlier paper postulated that Covid-mortality (chance of dying from Covid) of virtually zero can, at least theoretically, be achieved with a Vitamin D blood level of 125 nmol/L.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8541492/

Dr Ian Brighthope from Melbourne said the pandemic could be over in 6 weeks if everyone just raised their Vitamin D levels.

https://rumble.com/voqyxv-how-to-end-the-pandemic-in-just-6-short-weeks.html

The Zelenko and FLCCC protocols all emphasise Vitamin D:

https://vladimirzelenkomd.com/treatment-protocol/
https://vladimirzelenkomd.com/prophylaxis-protocol/
https://covid19criticalcare.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/FLCCC-Alliance-I-MASKplus-Protocol-ENGLISH.pdf


Even if you insist that this is "unproven" for Covid, yet it is proven for general health -- hence, what does it hurt, during a pandemic, to try to get your Vitamin D levels up?

But you see, the Mainstream ignores all this -- probably because there's no profit in selling Vitamin D compared to mega-trilions in profit for vaccines. They tell you to take a Panadol and just rest.

Bullshit.  There is plenty of information available about vitamin D deficiency and links to severe COVID outcomes.  

The UK Government was even supplying free Vitamin D supplements to people at high risk from COVID for a time:

https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/coronavirus-covid-19/people-at-higher-risk/free-vitamin-d-supplements-for-people-at-high-risk/

Stop trying to pigeonhole everything little thing into your "us vs them" narrative. The world is more complicated than that. 

NSW just did the same thing. So effectively ~40k today.

+1

It's also probably more profitable to sell vitamin D than paracetamol... 

hahhahahhaha

This guy is a vitamin seller ffs 

He literally says Vitamins will cure at least 10 different terminal diseases.

He has also been funded by Blackmores 

OMFG 

... ivermectin ... has had an immeasurably beneficial impact in improving the lives and welfare of billions of people throughout the world. Originally introduced as a veterinary drug, ... It is now being used free-of-charge as the sole tool in campaigns to eliminate both diseases globally. It has also been used to successfully overcome several other human diseases and new uses for it are continually being found. This paper looks in depth at the events surrounding ivermectin’s passage from being a huge success in Animal Health into its widespread use in humans, a development which has led many to describe it as a “wonder” drug.

There are few drugs that can seriously lay claim to the title of ‘Wonder drug’, penicillin and aspirin being two that have perhaps had greatest beneficial impact on the health and wellbeing of Mankind. But ivermectin can also be considered alongside those worthy contenders, based on its versatility, safety and the beneficial impact that it has had, and continues to have, worldwide—especially on hundreds of millions of the world’s poorest people.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3043740/

In other words, it has numerous applications in humans, and the paper stated "and new uses for it are continually being found."

Hence, those easily-indoctrinated Masses -- all the Media had to do was label Ivermectin as "horse medicine" and "de-wormer" -- and give a good yank on the invisible dog-leash. And the Masses were convinced to become foot-soldiers to silence any dissenters who questioned the narrative. Look at the way such people attack those who even mention Ivermectin positively.

"A Myth is Born: How CDC, FDA, and Media Wove a Web of Ivermectin Lies That Outlives The Truth"
https://rescue.substack.com/p/a-myth-is-born-how-cdc-fda-and-media?

If you search this W.H.O. website, you will see for yourself that Ivermectin is among the world's essential medicines FOR HUMANS:

https://global.essentialmeds.org/dashboard/medicines

Now that even Pfizer is admitting the vaccines 1st and 2nd dose are inadequate against Omicron ....

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/01/10/pfizer-ceo-says-two-covid-vaccine-doses-arent-enough-for-omicron.html

maybe it's worthwhile to re-visit something you guys have previously attacked as misinformation?

Remember, when the TGA gave their 3 reasons for banning Ivermectin, they never said it didn't work. It was because (1) the danger of overconfidence in Ivermectin, (2) people were getting their dosages from social media, and (3) if used for Covid, there might not be enough Ivermectin for scabies.

https://www.tga.gov.au/media-release/new-restrictions-prescribing-ivermectin-covid-19

C'mon, it doesn't take a video from Dr. John Campbell for you to realise that the TGA's 3 reasons for banning Ivermectin for Covid were absolute rot. https://youtu.be/_gndsUjgPYo?t=998

At some stage, there will be some who come to the realisation how easily the Media can manipulate you with a few slogans like "horse medicine" and "de-wormer".

And the sad thing is, if the Australian government had not banned Ivermectin, probably none of this disaster in the supply chain would have happened.

https://thefederalist.com/2021/12/16/studies-proving-generic-drugs-can-fight-covid-are-being-suppressed/

LOL johnsmith debunked again

Joker deportation decision due today.

Will the LNP have the courage to do the right thing?

I love how just ignores stuff like this. 

:hehe::hehe:this is all getting a little sad :hehe::hehe:

Human nature does not change. When the Masses were told there aren't enough lifeboats on the Titanic, the whistleblowers were mocked and ignored.

Today I drew your attention to the fact that "Vitamin D deficiency was found in 82.2% of COVID-19 cases ... Vitamin D-deficient COVID-19 patients had ... longer length of hospital stay than those with [Vitamin D] levels ≥ [ 50 nmol/l ].

and you mock me for pointing you to Vitamin sellers?

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34932810/

My guess -- and I'm giving you the big benefit of the doubt -- that on this forum you guys (or girls  -  I mustn't assume all of you regulars are males) continue the charade of mocking me because you find it fun -- but, behind the scenes, you're taking stock of the information. That's cool. I'm ok with that. My motive is to help people, not to get brownie points to spend online shopping.

I mean, it really IS fun.
Easy too!

aha that just reminded me of a classic simpsons line

Fun and immensely frustrating at the same time. 

Taking stock of information? Well, over the last few months I've often looked at what you've posted and thought "what if he's right"? 

However, usually after about 5-10 minutes of examination the inaccuracies, misinterpretations, inconsistencies or outright lies in your "information" become glaringly apparent. The agenda and socio-political motivation is so clear and obvious, yet you've closed your mind off to it like a the good little anti-vax mouthpiece you are.  

Pretty much everything you have posted has fallen apart when placed under a tiny bit of scrutiny.  

So, if anything you've actually managed to embolden my opinion that the anti Covid vaccine movement are full of shit. Well done! 

The vitamin seller sums it up. They've all been hoodwinked by people for either personal financial or political gain - and it's been swallowed hook line and sinker. 

Having said that it's been quite a ride watching it bring together NRL WAGS, Bikies, Religious Zealots, Ultra-conservatives, Ice heads, Neo-Nazis, Truckies, Byron Bay Hippies and used furniture salesmen as the bastions of medical advice and good social policy. 

You must admit, however, that the misinformation peddled by vaxxers is hidden because what they're saying matches the misinformation peddled by the Media.

Just minutes ago, I checked reddit, and there's a person thinking that "unvaccinated people spread a heavier viral load to others".

https://reddit.com/r/QAnonCasualties/comments/rybbhy/_/hro2dnj/?context=1

This is simply not true. This study from the University of California stated: "We found no significant difference in cycle threshold values between vaccinated and unvaccinated, asymptomatic and symptomatic groups infected with SARS-CoV-2 Delta."

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.09.28.21264262v1

And yet this simplistic "keep it simple for the Masses" approach is what fuels much pubic trust in the Media. It's not difficult to explain to the simplistic that "vax equals safe, unvaxxed is not safe". That's largely the level of the thinking of even edjurcated people. It's just too difficult to explain to people about vaccine efficacy, and how these new-tech vaccines operate on a completely different paradigm to all historical vaccines, and are not delivered on their promise.

Most people cannot comprehend more than "vax is safe, unvax is not safe". 

Here's another one from Harvard University's S. V. Subramanian from Harvard School of Public Health, Published: 30 September 2021 -- "Increases in COVID-19 are unrelated to levels of vaccination across 68 countries and 2947 counties in the United States"

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10654-021-00808-7
https://link.springer.com/.../10.1007/s10654-021-00808-7.pdf

Once again, when the simple folk just operate on "vax is safe, unvax is not safe" -- you cannot get through to them that the science, on these particular MRNA vaccines, is not saying that.

Here's another one from University of California: "Fully vaccinated were more likely than unvaccinated persons to be infected by variants carrying mutations associated with decreased antibody neutralization ... Differences in viral loads were non-significant between unvaccinated and fully vaccinated persons overall ..."

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.19.21262139v1

We are seeing this now because all of us know more vaxxed who are infected, than unvaxxed, yet the indoctrination is so strong, people still blame the unvaxxed.

This is so counter-intuitive to the "vax is safe, unvaxed is unsafe" that it is almost impossible to communicate this science to the average person in the street, especially when the Media and government are pushing vaccines.

Meanwhile, the scientists who try to get this message out are forced to lose their jobs, vilified and mocked.

this is in a nutshell describes anti-vaxxers to a tee

sold a bill of goods by snake oil and sUpPlEmEnTs grifters trying to capitalise on the tragedy of the worst pandemic in over 100 years

inhabiting conspiracy website rabbit holes and shady facebook groups on the internet that have good the twoof I tell ya, its the real twoof here!

Here is a response from an author of this study in relation to it being utilised by anti-vaxxers:

1. The claim that “vaccinated individuals are more susceptible to SARS-CoV-2 variant infections (or COVID-19) than unvaccinated (individuals)” is incorrect and is patently false. Our report showed that 81% of COVID cases (1248 out of 1373 cases) were in unvaccinated individuals while only 9% (125 out 1373 cases) were in fully vaccinated individuals. Therefore, in our study, there were approximately 10 times more cases of COVID in unvaccinated individuals than in vaccinated individuals. Our study also focused on vaccine breakthrough cases and showed that infections by “antibody-resistant” variants carrying one or more mutations associated with immune evasion, such as Beta, Gamma, and Delta variants, are overrepresented in vaccine breakthrough cases, while infections in unvaccinated individuals generally reflect the overall distribution of variants circulating in the community at the time, i.e., any variant in the community. However, infection by variants (Alpha, Beta, Gamma, Delta, etc.) comprised most infections overall, both in unvaccinated and unvaccinated individuals.

2. Our study was performed at a time when there was simultaneous circulation of multiple variants of the virus, including some that are relatively resistant to neutralizing antibodies. Vaccination prevents the vast majority of infections, but the small subset of vaccinated individuals (9%) who had breakthrough infections at that time were, not surprisingly, more likely to be infected by these “antibody-resistant” variants.

https://healthfeedback.org/claimreview/study-by-ucsf-researchers-found-that-vaccinated-people-made-up-the-minority-of-infections-and-that-vaccination-protects-against-hospitalization-and-death/#feedback

You make it far too easy mate. This is why we mock you.

2nd post of an author of the study John smith has misinterpreted, challenging it's use by anti-vaxxers (link above):

3. Our study does not support in any way the claims that “vaccine antibodies would suppress natural antibody responses. The vaccine antibodies take control of the immune system and defend only against a targeted virus” and “among vaccinated individuals, a COVID variant virus is not recognized by the specialized antibodies provided by the vaccine, and the natural antibodies have been programmed to stand down”. We did not address these issues in our study. Peer-reviewed published data by others show that although there can be reduced sensitivity of “antibody-resistant” variants such as Delta to antibody neutralization elicited, the full dose of the vaccine is still effective in neutralizing the virus and preventing infection

4. Finally, our study also found that there “…were fewer hospital admissions and no deaths in vaccinated patients as compared to unvaccinated patients…” and that “…significantly lower viral RNA loads were observed in asymptomatic breakthrough cases as compared to unvaccinated cases…”, which support vaccination to prevent spread of the virus in the community and decrease the number of hospitalizations and deaths from COVID. The effectiveness of the vaccine in preventing hospitalizations from severe COVID is also reported in other published data

Out of interest John, am I "nitpicking" by showing the author of the study has literally come out and said the opposite of what you are claiming?

I'll answer your question the way Dr Peter McCullough did at @31:26 to @32:00 of this video:

https://www.bitchute.com/video/EFP41I3r5MfE/

Dr McCullough said, when he looks at a Covid medical paper, he breaks it into two steps: the data, and the writer's conclusion.

McCullough said that the data can point one way -- but the writer of the paper, because of being beholden to an agenda, can form a different conclusion from the same data. So McCullough sees what the data is saying.

There are papers where the data says the vaccines are not working -- but the writer says, we need the vaccines.

That's Dr McCullough's approach.

Lol. You mean like what you've done for the last 100 pages

The entire anti vaxx movement is writer based interpretation from a hidden agenda, using weak / fabricated "data sets" and "stats" to try to "prove a point" that literal 5 year olds in Australia have the sense to disagree with

This, like the flat Earth movement, is nothing more than the philosophy of how to shape an argument. 0% substance and 100% technique. Based on 3 seconds of this porn video, the bottom paragraph of this catalogue for antique clocks, and these 5 blades of grass my point is irrefutable

The problem is people get drawn into arguing thinking they are doing somebody a favour by helping to correct them, or think that they can tear down a weak / laughable arguement. But they are just smacked into frustration by post after post of somebody who either doesn't believe what they are posting, or is simply a case of "this is my point, and here are a bunch of words"

Nobody would read a single word that you have posted (separate point) and conclude that vaccination should be a choice. I'm not sure why you're trying so hard to ruin a perfectly good thread on a decent forum where the members (despite our different views) actually have respect for one another, and actually have interest in the topic at hand

Not to mention Peter McCullough is part of the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons, a conservative-aligned group that has posted articles claiming regular vaccines cause autism,  HIV doesn't cause AIDS and that Obama used hypnosis to get people to vote for him:

https://aapsonline.org/american-children-need-access-to-better-vaccines/

https://www.jpands.org/vol12no4/bauer.pdf

https://aapsonline.org/oratory-or-hypnotic-induction/

No agenda whatsoever, just "viewing the data". Bloody hell.  

Bitchute is a very reputable website don't you know.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/lPnDwpMrI5Wr/  

KNOW YOUR ENEMY / SERPENT SEED / JEW WORLD ORDER / CAIN AND ABEL / GENOCIDE / REPTILLIAN

This is true actually.

It's really ruined a thread that was actually reasonably informative (as a jumping off point) where we shared grievances and ideas with relatively few insults thrown around on a touchy topic.

I'm going to try to stop replying to that lunatic again and maybe he can post his stuff to the sportsmen dying thread instead

Yep.  

I've disagreed with Bluebird more often than not but he's 100% right this time.  No matter how many times you prove people like John Smith wrong they find a way to keep believing they are right. Like a censor, they blank out and dismiss anything they don't want to hear.   You just can't have an honest debate with them because they were not being honest with themselves.  

It'll be difficult, but I'm going to avoid responding too.  Give me strength to endure his smug rubbish and focus on things worth focusing on :)

I find it funny that on the one day Adelaide case numbers went from about 3.5k to 2.9k Marshall rushed out to tell us all it was his stellar decision making that made that drop happen.

Next day….3.5k, next day 3.7k etc

Before I read Marshall boasting I saw that in previous days, due to extreme heat over a few days, several testing centres didn’t open or closed early