Kit thread 20/21


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Neanderthal - 3 Oct 2020 2:36 PM
Is it confirmed that Socceroos shorts are green?

Yes. On both kits.
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NicCarBel - 3 Oct 2020 4:51 PM
Neanderthal - 3 Oct 2020 2:36 PM

Yes. On both kits.

you sure? i thought the away kit is going to be green top with obsidian blue shorts and green socks.

i still dont understand why fresh water is a colour though

The away kit reintroduces a fresh water jersey, fresh water socks and deep obsidian shorts. The colour is a contemporary take on the 2004 Socceroos kit, which was the first official kit released by Nike for the Socceroos and debuted in Sydney when Australia played Turkey in front of nearly 30,000 fans.

https://www.socceroos.com.au/news/nike-reveals-a-sustainable-australia-national-team-kit


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heyitsrobbie1984 - 3 Oct 2020 6:25 PM
NicCarBel - 3 Oct 2020 4:51 PM

you sure? i thought the away kit is going to be green top with obsidian blue shorts and green socks.

i still dont understand why fresh water is a colour though

The away kit reintroduces a fresh water jersey, fresh water socks and deep obsidian shorts. The colour is a contemporary take on the 2004 Socceroos kit, which was the first official kit released by Nike for the Socceroos and debuted in Sydney when Australia played Turkey in front of nearly 30,000 fans.

https://www.socceroos.com.au/news/nike-reveals-a-sustainable-australia-national-team-kit


Maybe freshwater aligns with clean air?
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someguyjc - 3 Oct 2020 1:20 PM
Monoethnic Social Club - 2 Oct 2020 10:22 PM

This is a symptom of a franchise model. The clubs do not own their own IP. However, you may be reading into this wrong. The FFA would not have registered the trademark on their own volition. WSW would have requested the FFA do it on their behalf. Because it contains the word 'Wanderers' it would be more likely to be approved if it is registered by the same owner of the Western Sydney Wanderers trademark, which is the FFA. This should all change once the league independence is finalised and clubs take ownership of their own IP. 

Thanks for the reply.  Makes sense I guess, still baffles me that club members would not vote against this sort of thing though. 
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Monoethnic Social Club - 3 Oct 2020 9:42 PM
someguyjc - 3 Oct 2020 1:20 PM

Thanks for the reply.  Makes sense I guess, still baffles me that club members would not vote against this sort of thing though. 

The whole thing is odd. May have to do with contracts that they aren’t allowed to own anything that is considered related to the club.

Members, do you mean APFCA members? It is probably a condition FFA set the league up like. 


FFA own the one chant, Roary (2004) the only mascot.

A notable mention is FFA own Sydney FC (2004). In 2007 AFL acquired Sydney Football Club.

its odd in the way it’s not consistent. Why only 1 chant and 1 mascot. If clubs did request why didn’t FFA do it for all the clubs?

and why are CFG allowed to own MCFC ip?
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heyitsrobbie1984 - 3 Oct 2020 6:25 PM
NicCarBel - 3 Oct 2020 4:51 PM

you sure? i thought the away kit is going to be green top with obsidian blue shorts and green socks.

i still dont understand why fresh water is a colour though

The away kit reintroduces a fresh water jersey, fresh water socks and deep obsidian shorts. The colour is a contemporary take on the 2004 Socceroos kit, which was the first official kit released by Nike for the Socceroos and debuted in Sydney when Australia played Turkey in front of nearly 30,000 fans.

https://www.socceroos.com.au/news/nike-reveals-a-sustainable-australia-national-team-kit


They're both green to me, just different shades ;)
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scott20won - 3 Oct 2020 10:56 PM
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and why are CFG allowed to own MCFC ip?

Technically they don't because none of their trademark applications have been successful. All have either been rejected, withdrawn or have current opposition.
https://search.ipaustralia.gov.au/trademarks/search/result?s=14d7fe9b-eafd-4861-8ac7-5cb368bbfe94#_1850900

As for why they are allowed to apply. I'm guessing they probably negotiated a better agreement with the FFA when they purchased Heart. The FFA would not have wanted them to walk away from the deal and probably made some exemptions for them. CFG are to big to just let them walk over something as minor as that.

Interestingly, MacArthur were the original owners of their name/branding, but ownership was changed on 1 July 2019 to the FFA.
https://search.ipaustralia.gov.au/trademarks/search/view/2002161?q=macarthur+bulls
(Click the history and publications drop down at the bottom.)

My guess is this had something to do with independence. Originally, the AL independence was expected/scheduled to be finalised prior to Macarthur entering the comp. That would mean that there would be no reason for FFA to register their trademarks. However, that schedule changed (culprit most likely being Fox), and ownership of the Macarthur IP was all changed over to the FFA.
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scott20won - 3 Oct 2020 10:56 PM
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The whole thing is odd. May have to do with contracts that they aren’t allowed to own anything that is considered related to the club.

Members, do you mean APFCA members? It is probably a condition FFA set the league up like. 


FFA own the one chant, Roary (2004) the only mascot.

A notable mention is FFA own Sydney FC (2004). In 2007 AFL acquired Sydney Football Club.

its odd in the way it’s not consistent. Why only 1 chant and 1 mascot. If clubs did request why didn’t FFA do it for all the clubs?

and why are CFG allowed to own MCFC ip?

No I meant club members... at the AGM every year are the fans that pay their yearly membership not given the right to table any issues they have so members can vote? 
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Monoethnic Social Club - 4 Oct 2020 10:14 PM
scott20won - 3 Oct 2020 10:56 PM

No I meant club members... at the AGM every year are the fans that pay their yearly membership not given the right to table any issues they have so members can vote? 

I assume that you already know that “members” don’t vote. Not for the board or anything of the like.

AL season ticket holder are season ticket holders. Like people who buy a yearly bus pass. Their purchase of a season ticket allows them to use the service they pay for.

Then can influence a decision but can’t vote.
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scott20won - 5 Oct 2020 1:54 AM
Monoethnic Social Club - 4 Oct 2020 10:14 PM

I assume that you already know that “members” don’t vote. Not for the board or anything of the like.

AL season ticket holder are season ticket holders. Like people who buy a yearly bus pass. Their purchase of a season ticket allows them to use the service they pay for.

Then can influence a decision but can’t vote.

You know what they say about assumption? :) 
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scott20won - 5 Oct 2020 1:54 AM
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I assume that you already know that “members” don’t vote. Not for the board or anything of the like.

AL season ticket holder are season ticket holders. Like people who buy a yearly bus pass. Their purchase of a season ticket allows them to use the service they pay for.

Then can influence a decision but can’t vote.

Adelaide United have an actual membership system from memory. 
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pv4 - 6 Oct 2020 6:01 AM
scott20won - 5 Oct 2020 1:54 AM

Adelaide United have an actual membership system from memory. 

Well they where formed during the dying days of the evil NSL empire so that would make sense I guess. :)

Getting back to the Kit thread though, Adelaide's yellow strip is garbage in my opinion - (sorry to be negative) It really pains me to admit but I quite like Victory's away white strip, especially the map of Melbourne detail.... I'm gonna go and have a shower now I feel dirty.
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pv4 - 6 Oct 2020 6:01 AM
scott20won - 5 Oct 2020 1:54 AM

Adelaide United have an actual membership system from memory. 

I didn’t know they vote for their board.
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someguyjc - 7 Oct 2020 7:42 PM













Did somebody say KFC?
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our white kit is the best kit ever seen in the AL. its jizz in your pants stuff. 
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Brox is actually a sexy man.
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Feed_The_Brox - 8 Oct 2020 9:04 AM
our white kit is the best kit ever seen in the AL. its jizz in your pants stuff. 

Not enough Orange to be the best kit ever !!
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The map on the victory away kit is brilliant, its a type of feature you'd see on a top premier league or world football club, not something youd expect within the league and its class.
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elksy - 8 Oct 2020 11:07 AM
The map on the victory away kit is brilliant, its a type of feature you'd see on a top premier league or world football club, not something youd expect within the league and its class.

It is. 
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Feed_The_Brox - 8 Oct 2020 9:04 AM
our white kit is the best kit ever seen in the AL. its jizz in your pants stuff. 

I wouldn't go that far, but it might be the best away kit MV has ever had. 
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Monoethnic Social Club - 7 Oct 2020 9:49 PM
someguyjc - 7 Oct 2020 7:42 PM

Did somebody say KFC?

I DON'T CARE-

I LOVE IT!!!

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I DON'T CARE-

I LOVE IT!!!

"Shut up and take my money" ..... That has 2021 A-League marketing slogan written all over it :)
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Feed_The_Brox - 8 Oct 2020 9:04 AM
our white kit is the best kit ever seen in the AL. its jizz in your pants stuff. 

I have to agree.
It's one of the best kits I've ever seen in any league anywhere.
I am buying one right now.
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MarkfromCroydon - 8 Oct 2020 4:21 PM
Feed_The_Brox - 8 Oct 2020 9:04 AM

I have to agree.
It's one of the best kits I've ever seen in any league anywhere.
I am buying one right now.

Wasnt sold on either till i saw the full picture, they are both great but that away kit is in my opinion the best the league has seen (though big fan of newys green one in the past) definitely will be picking one up.
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This has been good fodder for making these kits for PES 2021
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Feed_The_Brox - 8 Oct 2020 9:04 AM
our white kit is the best kit ever seen in the AL. its jizz in your pants stuff. 

I find it very fitting that this ^ is followed directly by the below. 

soccerfoo - 8 Oct 2020 9:10 AM
Brox is actually a sexy man.



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Not sure if this has been mentioned on another topic or post, but Sydney FC have annouced they will reuse the kit from this season again next season.

So no new kit for Sydney, and we claim to be the biggest team in the league. This is straight up pathetic, imo.
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elksy - 9 Oct 2020 6:13 PM
Not sure if this has been mentioned on another topic or post, but Sydney FC have annouced they will reuse the kit from this season again next season.

So no new kit for Sydney, and we claim to be the biggest team in the league. This is straight up pathetic, imo.

It's really only been the last few seasons where we haven't used the same kit for two seasons. We used the same kit in 15-16 as we did in 16-17. 




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sydneyfc1987 - 9 Oct 2020 6:25 PM
elksy - 9 Oct 2020 6:13 PM

It's really only been the last few seasons where we haven't used the same kit for two seasons. We used the same kit in 15-16 as we did in 16-17. 



Still amatuerish though.
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