We got about another 3 seasons are the rate were going before with drop below Myanmar. Expansion of this competition is benefiting us heaps and hopefully some more lower rated teams qualify, improving our chances for wins.

The salary cap still needs to get in the bin if we are ever going to have a chance but fuck me if we still struggle to get wins against the likes of the new ASEAN clubs or the norks then we are really in the shit.

Also.... Pyongyang away.........

It costs A League clubs around $500k to compete in the ACL with the FFA retaining all tv money, so it’s nothing more than an expensive inconvenience to most clubs - and it shows. Nothing will change until that changes. 

Or there’s some actual prize money worth it. Surely with all those eyes there’s some tv rights? I remember watching the final on tv in my hotel room in Bangkok in prime time back in 2007. It’s an older competition money must’ve been earned over all these years. 

(This will change with independence but) the ACL
tv money was retained by the FFA (they would argue it was then distributed equally to the 10 A League clubs through the normal tv distribution each year). 

There has already been talk that the ACL Prizemoney was set to increase significantly meaning that even a half decent run would pay off substantially. There has also been talk of a massive increase in the world club challenge participation and prize money.

This competition has the potential to be incredibly lucrative, it is a bit sad if we are riding in on the coat tails of other clubs waiting for it to be so.

Increasing prize money will help, but as with many things involved with the “A League” it was the way it has been handled by the FFA that is the primary problem. 

Well, we've slipped below Thailand but 1+2 seems to be fair for us.

Basically you are saying the a-league franchise model is shit, well guess what, the Roar are an a-league franchise club.

No Indonesian spot or half spot? Would have though they'd be ahead of Myanmar. Are they banned or something?

It is perhaps fortunate for us that the 2020 season won't count for future rankings as I understand it, due to the cancellation of the 2020 AFC Cup.

The 2020 and 2021 ACL slots were decided by the 2019 rankings, where we fell to 11th and finished below Thailand, Iraq and Uzbekistan.

With 0 points for everyone in 2020 our ranking for this year is even worse, falling to 17th and being overtaken by North Korea, Jordan, Tajikistan, the Philippines, Turkmenistan, and Vietnam. Fortunately, even-numbered years aren't used to calculate slots.

The 2021 rankings will decide the slots for 2022 and 2023 however, so Sydney FC, Melbourne City and Brisbane really have their work cut out for them to win some more points in the 2021 season and recover our ranking or we'll lose even more slots and have a harder time winning them back.

The FFA/FA and the clubs should be lobbying hard to get us allowed into the ASEAN Zone of the AFC Cup.

Indonesia was ranked 28th in the AFC and 13th in the East in the 2019 rankings behind Myanmar, so they just missed out as only the top 12 of each zone get slots.

Indonesia ranks after myanmar, because their clubs missed out from AFC competiton for several season due to suspend

in 2019 season the AFC spend 5.88 million USD in travel fee subsidy, about 47k per match, the total bonus for the whole tournament is 30m USD in 2020, and will increase to 40m in next edition

Indonesian football looks mental. I so wish we had better sporting and cultural relationships with our neighbours to the north instead if throwing our lot in with any ex British Empire countries we feel are equally WASPy. 

1+2 isn't as bad as it could have been

Yeah, according to Wiki the AFC gives out $60k in a travel subsidy for a group away match, and $50k to group stage match winners ($10k for a draw). How A-League clubs lose shedloads of money on this is a mystery to me. Does it really cost more than $60k to send a squad to places like Shangahi, Seoul or Tokyo?

They lose more on home games.  They normally have to fund the stadium, the referees, match officials and visiting teams meals and accommodation in 4 Star hotels and local transport.

They also pay their players extra for being in the ACL squad and match fees.

Been saying this for a long time ACL is a waste of time and a shit competition it doesn't have the prize money to be worth competing in. 

You make more money qualifying for the Europa league and getting knocked out in the group stage then you do winning the Asian Champions league.

With all the Oil money the Arabs have and the cash the Chinese throw at football it is unbelievable how under-funded the ACL is - you would expect it to be incredibility lucrative to raise the profile of the confederation instead it is a f**ken joke.

Personally i would of rather us have 1 spot if not 0 spots as the competition is pointless and a waste of money something we dont have to waste.

Pissant clubs should just give up their spot and let even South Melbourne, or someone who respects the competition and not the prize money, play.

Fuck me, if you can't find a sponsor to cover your 500k, maybe just do a sausage sizzle fundraiser or start a go fund me page.

Not sure if your taking the piss mate but you do know that South won the Oceania champions league and went on to the club world cup in 2000? At a time when the club probably did have to put some of the takings from the canteen towards flying the squad over to Brazil. There certainly wasnt any fox money back then, but making the club world cup netted the club a million US back then if i recall correctly. 

ALL of the ACL money should go to those clubs that compete in the ACL, and not shared amongst all of the A-League clubs.

Yes, Im taking the piss but not at South Melbourne. I would rather see South Melbourne in the ACL than pissant clubs like Brisbane.

:) I wish all Australian clubs took the competition (any competition) seriously.
Its been said to death a million times but lack of repercussions for finishing bottom of the table year after year makes the football a secondary consideration to entertainment and profit/loss statements... Great for investors but horrible for the actual sport.

Yep

Wait, don't you want to play yet another pointless friendly game against NZ?

Yep. Results have bad for all clubs but stingy clubs whinging about the tournament and not even pretending to take it seriously has been just as infuriating.

No I would like if we had a better relationship with the Kiwis also. Would be great to have regular tournaments specially youth, whether that is state level, or national. How good would an annual boys and girls tournament be? State squads from us and the equivalent from NZ if they have, for both boys and girls from say, U16 to U23s.. One year Australia, one year NZ.... Cheap travel and great exposure for players, PLUS getting used to tournament football. Can only be a win for the Socceroos and Matildas no?
But seriously Indonesian club football is pretty sick and would be great to expose our public to some of that over here. Why dont A league sides ever tour overseas to some of our neighbours? Great way to expose the league if the owners could ever see the benefits.

If teh Aleague is run by the clubs will that impact where the funding goes for ACL matches or does the FFA still control that, even though they aren't involved in the process at all? Surely the clubs will change the funding so those who compete get the lionshare of the funds.