The Aussies Abroad Thread 2


The Aussies Abroad Thread 2

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sportaddict - 23 Dec 2021 11:02 PM
sub007 - 23 Dec 2021 8:37 PM

Ollie Bozanic couldn’t really consistently start for Hearts and he’s one of the best midfielders in the A-League. Why don’t you go off Cam Devlin, who actually plays in the league - who spoke about the higher tempo and quality. 
Love the individual markers to show standards by this measure Mooy’s Huddersfield beat Man U with Mooy scoring proves A-league is better than the entire Man U squad. Personally reckon not a big difference in standard between most Scottish teams and the Aleague. Celtic and Rangers would definitely be another level. 
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Behich starting. He's certainly clocking up the minutes at club level. With Elder parked on the bench lately, he looks like he'll continue to be first choice LB for the Roos. Gersbach seems like another option with him getting big minutes as well in Ligue 2 
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SoccerooFan - 26 Dec 2021 12:59 AM
Behich starting. He's certainly clocking up the minutes at club level. With Elder parked on the bench lately, he looks like he'll continue to be first choice LB for the Roos. Gersbach seems like another option with him getting big minutes as well in Ligue 2 

Unfortunate because Elder has the superior skill level and has been great at getting the ball in well. Hull's team rotation is working for them to survive this season and it also prevents Elder from getting worn out. Elder could play for the Roos and not have the best game and get written off. It's that frustrating how it all boils up to one chance and then comes crashing down so quickly. Davidson needed to replace McKay earlier, Smith for Davidson then Behich for Smith. The switch has often happened too slowly seeing the constant starter complacent and immune.
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Surely elder playing in the championship is more highly regarded then Turkish league?
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Behich has to go after that Japan game - school boy defending mistakes! He has fought hard for Roos for years but Gersbach and Elder have better technical skills that were very much needed v Saudis and Japan - let alone good European sides who would exploit his weakness even more at a Wcup 
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A start and 58 minutes for Strain in a 6-0 win. Decent bit of work at 3:13 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FT-AqvZp4Cw


By now, American Samoa must have realised that Australias 22-0 win over Tonga two days earlier was no fluke.

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Mooy starting.
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Rogic starting
Full match for Mooy


By now, American Samoa must have realised that Australias 22-0 win over Tonga two days earlier was no fluke.

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playmaker11 - 26 Dec 2021 11:05 PM
Rogic starting
Full match for Mooy

2 assists for Rogic with 10 to go. 
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Kamaryn - 27 Dec 2021 1:15 AM
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2 assists for Rogic with 10 to go. 

Hope he plays like this for the Roos next month!! 
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No AMB. Surely injury or accumulation of cards. No Devlin in same game either. Boyle starting. 

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johnszasz - 27 Dec 2021 2:46 AM
No AMB. Surely injury or accumulation of cards. No Devlin in same game either. Boyle starting. 

Could be covid related? 
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Boyle two assists 
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Brandon Wilson is now a free agent.
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Mooy starting & scoring 2 goals before halftime. 
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sub007 - 27 Dec 2021 4:07 PM
Brandon Wilson is now a free agent.

Would you want him at an A league club? Seems he is the sort of player that you have in the team for depth, takes the spot of a youngster. 

If I was him Id go play in Singapore or a League like that
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Mooy seems to be getting into form in China 
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Melbcityguy - 26 Dec 2021 7:59 AM
Surely elder playing in the championship is more highly regarded then Turkish league?

For comparison using Club ELO.. 

Behich's Girensuspor is rated 1349. The Turkish league overall is 1421. 

Elder's Hull is 1432. The championship overall is 1497.. 

So we can conclude that Elder is playing at a slightly higher level. Albeit Behich starts and is probably the star of his team, wheras Elder is on the bench atm. He did make the TOTS for league 1 last yr though. 

Granted his last game wasn't great (wasn;t as bad as ppl making out though), however overall Behich has very very solid at LB for the roos over the years. Can't end someones career because of one bad game.
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Georgeg - 24 Dec 2021 11:38 AM
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Love the individual markers to show standards by this measure Mooy’s Huddersfield beat Man U with Mooy scoring proves A-league is better than the entire Man U squad. Personally reckon not a big difference in standard between most Scottish teams and the Aleague. Celtic and Rangers would definitely be another level. 

Again using Club ELO for comparison, SPFL is rated as 1343 which is lower than Sweden, croatia, Austrian, Czech, greek, even the Norwegian league. 

Hans berger said years ago he thought the standard of the A league was akin to the lower half Dutch league sides.. right now the mid way team of the lower half (12th of 16 teams) is Cambuur who are rated at 1423 which is equivalent to bottom of the Championship which is what Dwight Yorke rated our league as when he was here - granted that was many yrs ago now although you'd argue its at about the same level. 

Comparing this to Scotland, Cambuur with a score of 1423 would be the 3rd best team in Scotland. Being a Celtic fan i watch a lot of the SPFL and i can tell you that the better A league teams like Sydney and Melb City would belt the lower half SPFL teams. AMB for instance would not start for any A league club. 

And re Devlin talking about the pace/instensity etc of course he is going to big up his new league! What's he going to say "yeah standard is crap" .. of course not he's going to paint himself in a positive light.

The Euro snobbery on this forum sometimes is ridiculous. Just because Oli Bozanic wasn't an automatic starter and is now starring in the A league means nothing and is simply one example - for instance when he went to the Swiss league (which is ranked far above the SPFL) he absolutely starred, think he scored 5 games straight at one point. A single players' experience doesn't determine the quality of an entire league.



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 Can't end someones career because of one bad game.

Unless he was the coach 😉 good points re: Elo ratings but Behich v Japan was 1 of the worst Socceroos performances I’ve seen since 1997. With other younger talents like Gersbach & Elder knocking on the LB door Behich either improves/performs better from now on or should be out 
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Balin Trev - 30 Dec 2021 10:05 AM
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Unless he was the coach 😉 good points re: Elo ratings but Behich v Japan was 1 of the worst Socceroos performances I’ve seen since 1997. With other younger talents like Gersbach & Elder knocking on the LB door Behich either improves/performs better from now on or should be out 

Behich performance was influenced by Mooy's pathetic DM display in that game. Behich had to cover his and 3/4 of Mooy's area.
We can't have Mooy on as a DM as he is a lazy git.
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Paul01 - 30 Dec 2021 10:34 AM
Balin Trev - 30 Dec 2021 10:05 AM

Behich performance was influenced by Mooy's pathetic DM display in that game. Behich had to cover his and 3/4 of Mooy's area.
We can't have Mooy on as a DM as he is a lazy git.

Irvine had a bad game too. Arnold as well. Mooy definitely not a DM player. Hopefully 🤞 Arnold and players learned a LOT from last 3 bad games 
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Paul01 - 30 Dec 2021 10:34 AM
Balin Trev - 30 Dec 2021 10:05 AM

Behich performance was influenced by Mooy's pathetic DM display in that game. Behich had to cover his and 3/4 of Mooy's area.
We can't have Mooy on as a DM as he is a lazy git.

Except Mooy wasn't playing as a DM, Arnold had him playing left Mid/ left Wing which isn't his position - not fast enough & at that point not fit enough because he hadn't played any club football for months. Can't blame Mooy for Behich's performance. 
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Birmingham just confirmed McGree is leaving at the end of his loan. Real shame, as he was starting to show his class over the last couple of months - starting every week in the championship. 
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SoccerooFan - 30 Dec 2021 8:28 PM
Birmingham just confirmed McGree is leaving at the end of his loan. Real shame, as he was starting to show his class over the last couple of months - starting every week in the championship. 

Reading the fans reactions on Facebook indicates he has easily been one of their better players.
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Arzani's contract with CFG ends in June.
Even if he plays every game for Lommel up till then 
I can't see it being enough to attract decent Euro clubs due to his stop start few years.
Wouldn't mind Hearts taking a chance with him.
Current international 
WorldCup experience 
Young
Free agent after June and ready for pre-season
Has work permit already
Experience in Scotland with Celtic so no adjusting
Appears to be past his injury issues
Knows Cammy and Nat 
A performance based contract with the option to be loaned to A-League club if struggling for minutes could be good for both parties and I'd think pretty low risk for Hearts.
Hearts attackers are ok without being great and I'm pretty sure a fit Arzani would would find some success there.
Just a thought





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SpongeBobFC - 30 Dec 2021 10:40 PM
Arzani's contract with CFG ends in June.
Even if he plays every game for Lommel up till then 
I can't see it being enough to attract decent Euro clubs due to his stop start few years.
Wouldn't mind Hearts taking a chance with him.
Current international 
WorldCup experience 
Young
Free agent after June and ready for pre-season
Has work permit already
Experience in Scotland with Celtic so no adjusting
Appears to be past his injury issues
Knows Cammy and Nat 
A performance based contract with the option to be loaned to A-League club if struggling for minutes could be good for both parties and I'd think pretty low risk for Hearts.
Hearts attackers are ok without being great and I'm pretty sure a fit Arzani would would find some success there.
Just a thought





Good idea - I agree he looks like he's got his mojo back - from the recent highlights he's looking dangerous again and confidence is high 
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SpongeBobFC - 30 Dec 2021 10:40 PM
Arzani's contract with CFG ends in June.
Even if he plays every game for Lommel up till then 
I can't see it being enough to attract decent Euro clubs due to his stop start few years.
Wouldn't mind Hearts taking a chance with him.
Current international 
WorldCup experience 
Young
Free agent after June and ready for pre-season
Has work permit already
Experience in Scotland with Celtic so no adjusting
Appears to be past his injury issues
Knows Cammy and Nat 
A performance based contract with the option to be loaned to A-League club if struggling for minutes could be good for both parties and I'd think pretty low risk for Hearts.
Hearts attackers are ok without being great and I'm pretty sure a fit Arzani would would find some success there.
Just a thought





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Paul01 - 30 Dec 2021 10:34 AM
Balin Trev - 30 Dec 2021 10:05 AM

Behich performance was influenced by Mooy's pathetic DM display in that game. Behich had to cover his and 3/4 of Mooy's area.
We can't have Mooy on as a DM as he is a lazy git.

exactly he had no cover from the LW and the DM next to him. Was one out against his man most times and i think even then he did well. He misread that diagonal ball and looked a bit silly but that's one mistake! Then there was the own goal which was a complete fluke. Pure bad luck not much else he could do. 
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SoccerooFan - 30 Dec 2021 1:37 PM
Paul01 - 30 Dec 2021 10:34 AM

Except Mooy wasn't playing as a DM, Arnold had him playing left Mid/ left Wing which isn't his position - not fast enough & at that point not fit enough because he hadn't played any club football for months. Can't blame Mooy for Behich's performance. 

True Mooy was at LW not DM but he provided Behich no coverage at all, behich was one out against a very good opponent on many occasions. 
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