The Aussies Abroad Thread 2


The Aussies Abroad Thread 2

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Strain is out injured for 3 months. There is no decision to be made here. Of the 3 RB options we have, 2 are fit and available - Atkinson and Miller.
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Celtic are to good for everyone else but not good enough for champions league. Monty got cleaned out today also did also St mirren and hearts lost not a good morning for aussies north of England 
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Bowden - 7 Dec 2023 9:13 AM
Strain is out injured for 3 months. There is no decision to be made here. Of the 3 RB options we have, 2 are fit and available - Atkinson and Miller.

Why only 2 options? Did Arnie even watch Thomas Deng at J league?  He can play RB. If you follow J league the league standard is higher than SPL.  Even Celtic played friendly in Japan they were outplayed & outclassed by Japanese clubs.  

You put Miller there as RB against good opposition he would get destroyed. Too big, slow & clumsy,  cant dribble also a high risk of getting red card. He can play in SPL cuz the standard is low.

And Atkinson, defensively thought he was poor and his form (b4 injured) for Heart was like hot and cold with no consistency.

I watched Deng at Alberex Nigata. Mate he was smooth , good first touch/pass & move beautiful football. I  almost forgot he was Australian.
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johnszasz - 6 Dec 2023 8:29 AM
Balin Trev - 6 Dec 2023 8:13 AM

I'd rather Arzani than Leckie. Arzani can at least create something. The world cup heroics from Leckie and Behich shouldn't warrant automatic Asian Cup selection anymore.

I find it interesting that Iredale isn't even mentioned in media or social media circles despite being in the same league as Irvine and Metcalfe and higher than League 1. We get these hype reports of blokes who get invited for a German trial or are in the 4th tier but someone in the second division is just unknown.

Interesting! Don't forget in Asian cup 2015 Massimo Luongo was in League 1 and became MVP for the tournament. If you pick the right one could find a gem there.
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grazorblade - 4 Dec 2023 3:48 AM
Oniell makes the start xi again. So glad to see him work through a tough period adjusting for europe

will watch if he has improved his movement off the ball and able to find pockets of space

Huge achievement imo... many players would of dropped their head looking for a way back to the A-league in Jan. Hope he keeps progressing.
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Bowden - 7 Dec 2023 9:13 AM
Strain is out injured for 3 months. There is no decision to be made here. Of the 3 RB options we have, 2 are fit and available - Atkinson and Miller.

I didn't realise Strain was out for so long. I hate seeing it on national duty. So unfair. 
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Hibs got caned last night essentially because they didnt park the bus. Montgomery has started to change the way hibs play. Their ball circulation is much faster than last year

despite having less possession per match, they average 30 more passes than they did last season, only fifty less than ccm did with monty in charge.

hearts have also evolved to a more progressive style and celtic and rangers have always been so.

still a dour league, but if you play for those four clubs you are in a similar quality league to oz, playing a similar style for a longer season with access to europe. I now think it is out of date to worry about players going theee as long it is to those clubs. Only issue is how rough the defense is, which can cause injuries. But that is an issue in australia 
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johnszasz - 7 Dec 2023 6:59 AM
grazorblade - 7 Dec 2023 6:37 AM

It wasn't that long ago Atkinson was bossing players off the ball and running around defenders at the Olympics. This was against apparent good opponents. I think Atkinson is a shoe in as he's been on the scene longer. I wouldn't mind testing an adaptable system of a back 3 with Atkinson and Bos as wingbacks but this will force us to sacrifice talent elsewhere. 

Back 4 then Bos at LW

    Atkinson Souttar Burgess Rowles
                                                        Bos

When needed shift to back 3 with Atkinson and Bos as wingbacks and skilful wingers go more central
                Souttar Burgess Rowles
Atkinson                                           Bos
                 O'Neill Luongo
                     Metcalfe
                McGree   Boyle 

We may as well try to put some of our better finishers up top and play the ball on the floor more. St Pauli employ something similar only using height in their massive back 3 and Irvine. The rest are nimble with a killer blow. Something I wouldn't mind trying as soon as we secure a spot in the next round. Irvine and Goodwin fit well too.
      


Atkinson was hooked at HT with a 33% passing accuracy - 6/18 completed passes. I reckon Miller is number 1 RB with Strain out. Rather Bos plays LB - was his team's best player last game at LB & it was where he played his best football at City. 
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Twitter chatter that Bochum and Kaiserslautern have an interest in Hrustic. The former could use a creative boost while the latter would surely ensure starts. 
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johnszasz - 8 Dec 2023 2:38 AM
Twitter chatter that Bochum and Kaiserslautern have an interest in Hrustic. The former could use a creative boost while the latter would surely ensure starts. 

He is our best option at 10 if volpato "focuses on club football" forever

If we are playing top teams, mcgree is better - defends better and good in transition. But we need hrustic to unlock a set defence
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grazorblade - 8 Dec 2023 2:54 AM
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He is our best option at 10 if volpato "focuses on club football" forever

If we are playing top teams, mcgree is better - defends better and good in transition. But we need hrustic to unlock a set defence

I think he can on angles. He's not a 6. He gets way too isolated and exposed. His strength is rolling the ball nicely and a good diagonal ball. Catch up time after not peaking after a strong and prevelant qualifying campaign. 
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who has 2 thumbs and is starting for standard liege
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Kuol bench 
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grazorblade - 8 Dec 2023 5:38 AM
who has 2 thumbs and is starting for standard liege

Is it you?
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Capac - 8 Dec 2023 6:16 AM
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Is it you?

Yep im aiden oniell

wish me luck about to start the game
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No luck for garang today

team had 10 percent of possession….but its 1-1 incredibly
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Fc vols formation is amazing. 2 cbs in midfield and a midfielder at right wing

park the bus!

garang should work on his defence so he is trusted with situations like this
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Around 700 passes to 59, 27 shots to 2 but score is 1-1

reminds me of some of the socceroos more painful nights in east asia.

for all the good p and r will bring, it will bring about horrid games like this
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And just as a type feyenoord score

i dont recall seeing a first division side in europe as out of their depth as poor volendorm. Even when garang plays it is really hard to watch. The mids and back four cant string two passes together so the front three barely touch the ball
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Bowden - 7 Dec 2023 9:13 AM
Strain is out injured for 3 months. There is no decision to be made here. Of the 3 RB options we have, 2 are fit and available - Atkinson and Miller.

Looks like Gethin Jones from Bolton may be in contention..

https://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/23966051.bolton-wanderers-sweat-defensive-pair-january-call-up/



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kanman - 8 Dec 2023 9:35 AM
Bowden - 7 Dec 2023 9:13 AM

Looks like Gethin Jones from Bolton may be in contention..

https://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/23966051.bolton-wanderers-sweat-defensive-pair-january-call-up/



iredale as well.  like this move.  if league one is good enough to cap yengi amongst other player over the years then with these 2 starting every week now they should defs be in contention, iredale especially with behich's age
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kanman - 8 Dec 2023 9:35 AM
Bowden - 7 Dec 2023 9:13 AM

Looks like Gethin Jones from Bolton may be in contention..

https://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/23966051.bolton-wanderers-sweat-defensive-pair-january-call-up/



Oh wow, now that’s a throwback! I remember 6-7 years ago we were all desperate for him to choose Australia over Wales. 
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Bowden - 8 Dec 2023 11:53 AM
kanman - 8 Dec 2023 9:35 AM

Oh wow, now that’s a throwback! I remember 6-7 years ago we were all desperate for him to choose Australia over Wales. 

Makes sense though. While the Asian Cup falls on FIFA window the AFC U23 Asian Cup does not. That tournament will be used as a warm up event for the Olympics. If Arnie can do some horse trading to leave some younger players at their clubs during the busy January period then he may be able to get them released for that tournament even though it is not a FIFA window.
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Gethin and iredale are both playing for bolton who are coming second in league 1

the number of os aussie players in promotion positions right now is incredible 
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Well that's interesting they're being mentioned. Their efforts should be respected. Iredale seems a handy type. Versatility gets you that bit more ahead.

I think Risdon is a handy type. That experience in the squad with Atkinson or Miller could be useful. Degenek has shot himself in the door. Experienced and a handy RB utility nowadays but just not playing. 
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looks like iredale and gethin play for the 2nd best team in league 1. Gethin is mostly a rb in a back 3 and iredale is mostly a left winger

wonder if Arnold chooses an extended squad to choose all these fringe players

Alex Grant is also dominant in the 2nd best team in south korea -  a pretty high standard!

CB is a pretty loaded position mind you

Jacob Farrell really impresses me, and would be super useful against Japan, South Korea or Saudi arabia with Bos playing wing in front of him. That would be a defensively strong left flank!
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Iredale returns to starting 11. App has him on right but it may be two up top. He can dribble and get around a man and I think he may be used to jostle and make space for the fast fullback. 
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johnszasz - 9 Dec 2023 4:06 AM
Iredale returns to starting 11. App has him on right but it may be two up top. He can dribble and get around a man and I think he may be used to jostle and make space for the fast fullback. 

Highest level an oz striker has been since kennedy and mcdonald

meanwhile, bos is starting
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grazorblade - 9 Dec 2023 5:57 AM
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Highest level an oz striker has been since kennedy and mcdonald

meanwhile, bos is starting

Wiesbaden seem to be getting it wrong lately. Led tonight but lost 3:1. Just can't seem to go full 90.
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Westerlo with a win. Bos with a lot of experience around him. Bolat in goal was at Liege when Hannover were in Europa League. Neustädter and Chadli as link ups in play. 
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