What happens if a person of Greek/Italian/Croatian/Serb etc background is bored with your agenda and constant bleating and agrees with Robbos? Does that make them racist?  Maybe you don't speak for all football fans.   

Exactly, I'm Portuguese background & according the Mr Sth Melbourne I don't like Greeks.

When he loses the argument he resorts to calling people racist. 

Without irony too after singling out Asian kids in pictures to prove a point about South Melbourne.

Ah the old "I can't be racist because I had Chinese takeaway once" no worries pal.
I speak ONLY for myself.. its called an opinion... 

No according to me you don't like my club because it was founded by Greeks and you presume that 60 years later it would only be supported  by Greeks (I assume you mean Australians with Greek ancestry but I can't be entirely sure as you seem a little slow) I'm not sure how to break it to you Mr Portuguese Background, but making assumptions and therefore judgements about an organisation based on your determination of race is actually racist, illegal and immoral. 

Not too interested in "winning any argument here Arnie" just getting my point across, Like Mandela all those years ago fighting Apartheid. Passive Activism.  If you dislike or exclude an organisation and you openly state that the reason you did it is because " they are too Greek" or the even better sophism "they only appeal to Greeks.... because .... well because I said so"  what would YOU call that if not racism? 

Also maybe check on your definition of irony buddy,  my cut and paste of the junior Oakleigh kids 2, 3 months ago ( must have really stuck in your mind.... I hope your not a weirdo?) was to counter the claim that a so called ethnic club could attract fans outside their so called ethnicity. I didn't call them Asian kids you did... They are all Aussies of different shapes, colours and sizes to me.  I guess they aren't dinky di to you? 

Victim, Yawn boring.

The way you reframe an argument and put words into people's mouths should be beneath you.  Robbos (who happens to have an immigrant background) criticised your view/club and you pull out the racist card.  The were no criticisms of race or denigration of a race.  The criticism is entirely focused on your weak and circular argument.  You can do better than hide behind the "everybody who disagrees with me is racist" trope.  

Sorry mate, Robbo's (or anyone else's background) is completely irrelevant to the conversation here. In fact, if anything, being of ethnic decent makes categorising another group of Australians as "Greek" as a method of excluding them somehow more abhorrent. Calling them "Greek" in a complimentary way (ie I love Greek food) is another thing altogether... do you not see this?
I dont blame Robbo BTW, nor do I bear him any bad feelings. I feel that the fault lies with the original decision to expunge soccer in Australia of anything to do with un-Australian concepts (whatever the f#ck that means ...another topic for another time). Aleague fans have been lead, from our very own football federation, for more than 30 years (yes thats right, not just an FFA issue although Lowy gladly jumped on the wog bashing as it suited his agenda) to equate multiculturalism as the root cause of the reason why soccer is not a successful sport here and that the only way forward is to be push for assimilation at all costs. New Football is better than Old Soccer with the implication that the pumpkin seed eater need not bother with Aleague's brave new world.... No wonder the new crop of soccer lovers in Australia see the past as the dark ages and irrationally hate anything and everything to do with it ... even some of the older heads that should/do know better....
Sorry for the rant, it doesn't belong in the weekly attendances thread but, as always, just trying to defend/define my reasoning. I do NOT think anyone that disagrees with me is racist, of course I dont, but I am hoping you are a reasonable enough human being to understand the simple statement I posed previously?
"No according to me you don't like my club because it was founded by Greeks and you presume that 60 years later it would only be supported  by Greeks (I assume you mean Australians with Greek ancestry but I can't be entirely sure as you seem a little slow) I'm not sure how to break it to you Mr Portuguese Background, but making assumptions and therefore judgements about an organisation based on your determination of race is actually racist, illegal and immoral. 
Is this NOT racism?

People outside Melbourne may not be aware, but in the local football scene you support 2 teams, your team and whoever is playing SMH that week. In fact I have a few Greek mates who you would deeply offend if you called them SMH supporters.

Being so disliked, SMH supporters have built up this siege mentality of "everyone is jealous because we were Oceania Team of the Century" and you wont see Italians, Croatians, Maco's, Maltese or "normal" Greeks carrying on like a poor wronged SMH supporter, unfairly stopped from selling out their real club soul to become a plastic AL franchise just because they are Greek.

Hope this background explains why old Mono does what he does and why SMH is hated down here. Dont expect him to change, our only hope is SMH go broke and disappear..

Hahahaha "Hated adored, never ignored"
Let all the sell-outs who went to Victory just soak in the glory. of what they will never fill their trophy cabinets with (do they even have a trophy cabinet in their social club?) hahahahahahh 38 trophies in 60 years .... yeah we'll disappear. hahahahha no worries.


Watch all the other "normal" supporters come rushing back if we ever get back in the top flight. hahahahahahha 

Yawn Victim & boring!!!!!

You have it the wrong way around, if you live in Melbourne you support either South Melbourne or Heidelberg, and then you have your local team that you watched in winter when the other 2 were in the NSL. A lot of Greek clubs are pro South, Northcote City, Brunswick City, Malvern, Clifton Hill just to name a few, perhaps Clifton hill more to Heidelberg these days.

South’s popularity at local level always shows when the team travels to Oakleigh, Bulleen etc. Every match South plays away to another Greek club is essentially a home game and they tend to get their biggest crowd of the season.

Wake up little racist Robbo... here lets get back to the main pont of the thread... some action packed A-League attendances from 2 days ago...
https://mobile.twitter.com/boypage/status/1399293179623481349
Meanwhile Italy vs Greece got 4000 people through the gates in the NPL the day before
https://mens.nplnsw.com.au/2021/05/30/score-draw-between-two-inner-west-rivals/
Still  bored ?

There are also 100 or so that toyed with the idea of following Melbourne Heart .. oh and 3, if you count  '"Panayiotis" Kone the inaugural marquee superstar, that went to WU... The turncoats like AJF are praying we disappear as they believe their guilt will die too... let them suffer... lol

Yes bored Mr Greek.

That's funny coming from a wannabe plastic

Hahahah thats soooo 2018, c'mon man we all make mistakes :)

So his arguments are racist, illegal and immoral and yet you have no ill will towards him?   What utter nonsense.

Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice shame on me, fool me 3 time's...well not sure what to say

Just out of curiosity, do you feel any sympathy for the clubs that were around before the NSL, some of them playing continuously since the 19th century, that were left behind by the NSL and with no connection to the top level of the game? Why do you have it in your head that Football began in this country in the 1950's. The divisions were started long before the A-league and in many ways the A-league will serve as a way to reconnect football in this country with its true and lengthy history.

You don't need to insult people with your "plastic" bullshit, it does nothing to unite the game. Everyone who follows Football in this country is an outcast to a degree, whether it is NSL, NPL or A-league. 

Does anyone know what the attendance at the Mariners/Jets game was.....or am I on the wrong thread?

Can't argue with the facts..... Thats exactly what happened Im ashamed to say. 
If it helps, I was totally opposed to the whole Southern Cross FC plastic thing back when Heart was mysteriously selected.
In 2018 I thought it less plastic as it was more South Melbourne FC as a whole club (members owned still with outside investment) and not hiding our history or links to the past ... Oh well we dodged a bullet in the end, could have been where WU is now I suppose.

I dont blame all German people or Japanese people for the atrocities their countrymen committed in the past either mate. I can separate the fascist ideology from the individual.
Poor Robbo (and countless others I suspect) are purely a product of the environment they where brought up. Of course they are entitled to defend their position on things and I get that he/she would be spouting the same old tired "ethnic clubs are bad" shit that the FFA (until a few months ago) was pushing to their customers. I also get the passion for the Aleague, he/she made a choice to a club and is now stuck with it... If anything I am glad he/she defends it so much as it shows there is life in the old game yet. I hate the game aok, not the player. I wish others on here where the same, some hate me so much I reckon they would take a swing if they ever met me.... hahahahah

You do realise that South Melbourne Hellas was "founded" in 1959 as a merger for 2 x amateur Greek Migrant clubs and South Melbourne United SC who are one of the storied clubs you are talking about -- late 1890s if Im not mistaken. I have immense sympathy and respect for the clubs from any period of Australian history and believe they ALL had/have a role to play in the betterment of the game of soccer in Australia. You do realise that, despite what has happened in NSW, the rest of the country had a much more "natural" transition from British Soccer to "Wog" football, not all clubs where new start ups, a lot either faded away through lack of support or amalgamated to form other identities and along the track attracted different groups and changed and evolved. The history is actually fascinating to me.
If my calling Aleague consortiums plastic insults you and doesn't unite the game, how does your A-league disassociating itself from anything else soccer related in this country serve to "reconnect football in this country with its true and lengthy history." ? Genuinely curious, how does it unite us if nothing tarnished by the "wog brush" can get in?

You put words in other people mouths, the funny thing is you actually believe in your lies. Never once did I say ethnic clubs are bad. Grow up you child.

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Its OK Robbos... I forgive you. I remember now, you love clubs that chant in-ger-land.. or what was the other one you said??? I-TAL- IA or something? . Its Ok mate, its not your fault, the franchise owners have been indoctrinating their  customers with this sort of casual racism for 17 years, you can't be expected to think for yourself... I understand.

Thank you, I was afraid that I was looking on the wrong thread as most posts lately seem to revolve around  'Greeks, Portuguese, Germans, Japanese and goodness knows who else!

I did at least try to keep on subject :)
https://forum.insidesport.com.au/FindPost2969650.aspx