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+xthe Aleague was getting Crowds of 30,000+ and 40,000+ just 2 seasons ago, thats right just TWO seasons ago. WHAT on earth have theSuits in charge been doing the last 2 years ?! Thats what I want to know !! FUCK THE RETARDS LIKE YOU WHO WANTED THE FUCKING CIVIL WAR! FUCK THE RETARDS TRYING TO NICHE THE SPORT IN AUSTRALIA! BRING BACK LOWY! BRING BACK THE MARQUES!
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+x+x+x+x5,347 last night for the big blue. That's more than I thought it was. Now, fair enough, Victory are playing terribly, perhaps the worst we have seen of any club since the NZ Knights. Still, if there was one club you thought was always going to attract 15k to a game come what may, it was the Victory, especially playing against their biggest rivals. How about this, that non-entity, the GWS midgets got a home attendance of 9,500 playing against another non-entity of a team. A few years ago, you would have thought that something like that was never, ever going to happen (that one could be almost double the other). A few years ago this would have been unthinkable, agreed. I have a background in PR and marketing, with direct experience in major brand launch campaigns. I am at a complete loss as to any strategy out of this situation, which does indeed seem to have become a self perpetuating downward spiral. Let's be blunt: another two years of the this trend and the A League won't exist. It's questionable whether it can continue to exist, in commercial terms, at this level. The idea of the Giants overtaking the Wanderers is a massive alarm bell. Massive. The A League now seems to lack relevance and credibility with what used to be its core support. How do you change that? Well, in any other commercial sphere, a company would consider rebranding, accompanied by a massive marketing spend. My professional view is that is what the clubs need to do. Rebrand and relaunch. And spend. Will they do it? Can't see it. Honestly, FFA - Gallop and Lowy - have had a lot to do with this situation, but the clubs have sat on their hands for two crucial seasons when they needed to spend. It's been a shameful failure of governance all round. that's the dilemma are the funds there to do this its a catch 22 The A League has been signficantly undercapitalised from the outset. Frank Lowy had a vision for the A League that far exceeded the investment capital and revenue streams. In a very real sense, the A League has been slowly collapsing under the weight of those unrealistic expectations ever since. The A League has been a disappointment, I think, in many ways for even the most rusted on supporters. We expected more talented young Australians and higher profile visa players. We expected higher quality football than the utter dross served up for the most part pre Ange and post Ange Brisbane Roar, for which a lineup of safety first coaches were to blame (there was a reason noone admired Arnold's SFC beyond their core supporters). The three seasons leading up to this one were particularly dire, which unfortunately coincided with the endless infighting between S Lowy's FFA and the clubs - which STILL isn't over. Incompetence of a breathtaking scale. Now the football is there, but the attendances and ratings tell us that the fans have turned away in huge numbers (don't even try to tell me that they are all hiding on Kayo). Faith in the competition has been lost, and I can't see it coming back. The list of failures, disappointment and managerial incompetence is too long. My professional view is that only a rebrand and reboot offers hope of anything other than a marginal competition trickling on at the edge of insolvency. Which is what we have now. Spot on, or we go back to semi professional league
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Melbcityguy
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W league semi final 2k, Newcastle vs western was 4K and I doubt Wellington vs city got more then 5k
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+xI'm going to Australia and I will definitely go to this place, I already have a trip plan, I want to spend time with my wife. At an Aleague game?...
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+xW league semi final 2k, Newcastle vs western was 4K and I doubt Wellington vs city got more then 5k Wellington v city 1.3k
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+x+xW league semi final 2k, Newcastle vs western was 4K and I doubt Wellington vs city got more then 5k Wellington v city 1.3k Oh man, two exciting teams, great game. I have a horrible feeling that this season we are literally watching the death of the A League. No extenuating circumstances explains that attendance. Both sides are so watchable, high quality. How can not even 2000 football people in the Gong care enough about the game not to turn up? Depressing beyond belief. I posted before about the need for a rebrand and reboot. It's looking more and more like the only option.
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Eldar
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+x+x+xW league semi final 2k, Newcastle vs western was 4K and I doubt Wellington vs city got more then 5k Wellington v city 1.3k Oh man, two exciting teams, great game. I have a horrible feeling that this season we are literally watching the death of the A League. No extenuating circumstances explains that attendance. Both sides are so watchable, high quality. How can not even 2000 football people in the Gong care enough about the game not to turn up? Depressing beyond belief. I posted before about the need for a rebrand and reboot. It's looking more and more like the only option. Sure, except the fact that the home teams is playing 5000km from their home ground :D
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CS
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+x+x+x+xW league semi final 2k, Newcastle vs western was 4K and I doubt Wellington vs city got more then 5k Wellington v city 1.3k Oh man, two exciting teams, great game. I have a horrible feeling that this season we are literally watching the death of the A League. No extenuating circumstances explains that attendance. Both sides are so watchable, high quality. How can not even 2000 football people in the Gong care enough about the game not to turn up? Depressing beyond belief. I posted before about the need for a rebrand and reboot. It's looking more and more like the only option. Sure, except the fact that the home teams is playing 5000km from their home ground :D My view is that is not an extenuating circumstance for 1.3 k, for the reasons I gave in my post. It is, by any measure, a disastrous attendance.
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9,755 tonight at wanderers vs mariners
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Eldar
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+x+x+x+x+xW league semi final 2k, Newcastle vs western was 4K and I doubt Wellington vs city got more then 5k Wellington v city 1.3k Oh man, two exciting teams, great game. I have a horrible feeling that this season we are literally watching the death of the A League. No extenuating circumstances explains that attendance. Both sides are so watchable, high quality. How can not even 2000 football people in the Gong care enough about the game not to turn up? Depressing beyond belief. I posted before about the need for a rebrand and reboot. It's looking more and more like the only option. Sure, except the fact that the home teams is playing 5000km from their home ground :D My view is that is not an extenuating circumstance for 1.3 k, for the reasons I gave in my post. It is, by any measure, a disastrous attendance. So what does that make the 2300 that the NBL gets in Wollongong with a home team playing there?
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+x9,755 tonight at wanderers vs mariners one of the better attendances of the season
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+x+x+x+x+x+xW league semi final 2k, Newcastle vs western was 4K and I doubt Wellington vs city got more then 5k Wellington v city 1.3k Oh man, two exciting teams, great game. I have a horrible feeling that this season we are literally watching the death of the A League. No extenuating circumstances explains that attendance. Both sides are so watchable, high quality. How can not even 2000 football people in the Gong care enough about the game not to turn up? Depressing beyond belief. I posted before about the need for a rebrand and reboot. It's looking more and more like the only option. Sure, except the fact that the home teams is playing 5000km from their home ground :D My view is that is not an extenuating circumstance for 1.3 k, for the reasons I gave in my post. It is, by any measure, a disastrous attendance. So what does that make the 2300 that the NBL gets in Wollongong with a home team playing there? So NBL crowds are the "standard " now ?
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Eldar
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+xW league semi final 2k, Newcastle vs western was 4K and I doubt Wellington vs city got more then 5k Wellington v city 1.3k Oh man, two exciting teams, great game. I have a horrible feeling that this season we are literally watching the death of the A League. No extenuating circumstances explains that attendance. Both sides are so watchable, high quality. How can not even 2000 football people in the Gong care enough about the game not to turn up? Depressing beyond belief. I posted before about the need for a rebrand and reboot. It's looking more and more like the only option. Sure, except the fact that the home teams is playing 5000km from their home ground :D My view is that is not an extenuating circumstance for 1.3 k, for the reasons I gave in my post. It is, by any measure, a disastrous attendance. So what does that make the 2300 that the NBL gets in Wollongong with a home team playing there? So NBL crowds are the "standard " now ? So people just turning up to watch a team they don't support is the expectation now is it?
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xW league semi final 2k, Newcastle vs western was 4K and I doubt Wellington vs city got more then 5k Wellington v city 1.3k Oh man, two exciting teams, great game. I have a horrible feeling that this season we are literally watching the death of the A League. No extenuating circumstances explains that attendance. Both sides are so watchable, high quality. How can not even 2000 football people in the Gong care enough about the game not to turn up? Depressing beyond belief. I posted before about the need for a rebrand and reboot. It's looking more and more like the only option. Sure, except the fact that the home teams is playing 5000km from their home ground :D My view is that is not an extenuating circumstance for 1.3 k, for the reasons I gave in my post. It is, by any measure, a disastrous attendance. So what does that make the 2300 that the NBL gets in Wollongong with a home team playing there? So NBL crowds are the "standard " now ? So people just turning up to watch a team they don't support is the expectation now is it? if the quality is Very Poor , then I guess not
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+x+x9,755 tonight at wanderers vs mariners one of the better attendances of the season I think if we want attendances to increase then Wanderers and Victory need to be successful.
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+x+x9,755 tonight at wanderers vs mariners one of the better attendances of the season School holidays and $15 tickets help especially for a midweek game
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+x+x+x9,755 tonight at wanderers vs mariners one of the better attendances of the season I think if we want attendances to increase then Wanderers and Victory need to be successful. How are a successful Wanderers and Victory going to attract more attendances at a Tarneit vs City game?
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+x+x+x9,755 tonight at wanderers vs mariners one of the better attendances of the season School holidays and $15 tickets help especially for a midweek game $15 tickets? Thats NPL prices... I thought the franchise experience was worth lot more than that?
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5k last night
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Covid is definitely affecting the attendances. It's nonsense to say that people aren't turning up because of the "poor standard" and "passes going astray". We have had much poorer football in the A League in the past and people still turned up.
I saw people walk away from Hindmarsh recently because they refused to wear a mask on entering.
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+xCovid is definitely affecting the attendances. It's nonsense to say that people aren't turning up because of the "poor standard" and "passes going astray". We have had much poorer football in the A League in the past and people still turned up. I saw people walk away from Hindmarsh recently because they refused to wear a mask on entering. Doesn't seem to be affecting the AFL crowds at Adelaide Oval though, are they not refusing to wear masks? I know with the AFL here people where gagging to get tickets to the MCG with 50% capacity and ticket allocations selling out in minutes.. its not just Covid.... or poor football.....
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The afl crowds have gone down this year but you don’t need to mention them to sink the boot in the a league
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+xThe afl crowds have gone down this year but you don’t need to mention them to sink the boot in the a league Fair call mate. But it is clearly more than Covid or the quality of football on the park that is keeping people away from the Aleague...
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+x+xCovid is definitely affecting the attendances. It's nonsense to say that people aren't turning up because of the "poor standard" and "passes going astray". We have had much poorer football in the A League in the past and people still turned up. I saw people walk away from Hindmarsh recently because they refused to wear a mask on entering. Doesn't seem to be affecting the AFL crowds at Adelaide Oval though, are they not refusing to wear masks? I know with the AFL here people where gagging to get tickets to the MCG with 50% capacity and ticket allocations selling out in minutes.. its not just Covid.... or poor football..... Probably some are refusing, but as AFL is far more popular than sockah it doesn't make any difference, As for the MCG, people in Melbourne would shrivel up and die without their AFL footy fix.
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+x+x+xCovid is definitely affecting the attendances. It's nonsense to say that people aren't turning up because of the "poor standard" and "passes going astray". We have had much poorer football in the A League in the past and people still turned up. I saw people walk away from Hindmarsh recently because they refused to wear a mask on entering. Doesn't seem to be affecting the AFL crowds at Adelaide Oval though, are they not refusing to wear masks? I know with the AFL here people where gagging to get tickets to the MCG with 50% capacity and ticket allocations selling out in minutes.. its not just Covid.... or poor football..... Probably some are refusing, but as AFL is far more popular than sockah it doesn't make any difference, As for the MCG, people in Melbourne would shrivel up and die without their AFL footy fix. i saw this posted somewhere else average AFL crowds so far in 2021 ------ MCG - 43K Perth - 36k Adelaide - 29k SCG - 26K GABBA - 23K Gold Coast - 7K Giants - 5K COVID isn't the cause of poor crowds for the AL.
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localstar
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+x+x+x+xCovid is definitely affecting the attendances. It's nonsense to say that people aren't turning up because of the "poor standard" and "passes going astray". We have had much poorer football in the A League in the past and people still turned up. I saw people walk away from Hindmarsh recently because they refused to wear a mask on entering. Doesn't seem to be affecting the AFL crowds at Adelaide Oval though, are they not refusing to wear masks? I know with the AFL here people where gagging to get tickets to the MCG with 50% capacity and ticket allocations selling out in minutes.. its not just Covid.... or poor football..... Probably some are refusing, but as AFL is far more popular than sockah it doesn't make any difference, As for the MCG, people in Melbourne would shrivel up and die without their AFL footy fix. i saw this posted somewhere else average AFL crowds so far in 2021 ------ MCG - 43K Perth - 36k Adelaide - 29k SCG - 26K GABBA - 23K Gold Coast - 7K Giants - 5K COVID isn't the cause of poor crowds for the AL. Well, AFL crowds seem to be down according to these figures- covid obiously the reason. Covid is certainly affecting the crowds at Hindmarsh. Early in the season there was a crowd cap at 75%. People not sure if it is still there or not-don't want to turn up and not get in, so stay home. There was a crowd of over 10k early in the season; then it dropped because of AU's poor form. With the club's better form now it is creeping up again..
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+x+x+x+xCovid is definitely affecting the attendances. It's nonsense to say that people aren't turning up because of the "poor standard" and "passes going astray". We have had much poorer football in the A League in the past and people still turned up. I saw people walk away from Hindmarsh recently because they refused to wear a mask on entering. Doesn't seem to be affecting the AFL crowds at Adelaide Oval though, are they not refusing to wear masks? I know with the AFL here people where gagging to get tickets to the MCG with 50% capacity and ticket allocations selling out in minutes.. its not just Covid.... or poor football..... Probably some are refusing, but as AFL is far more popular than sockah it doesn't make any difference, As for the MCG, people in Melbourne would shrivel up and die without their AFL footy fix. i saw this posted somewhere else average AFL crowds so far in 2021 ------ MCG - 43K Perth - 36k Adelaide - 29k SCG - 26K GABBA - 23K Gold Coast - 7K Giants - 5K COVID isn't the cause of poor crowds for the AL. The average attendance at the AFL this season is down 6,000 on the last non covid affected season. That is a 16% drop. The AFL hasn't had this low an average attendance since the mid 1990's.
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+x+x+x+x+xCovid is definitely affecting the attendances. It's nonsense to say that people aren't turning up because of the "poor standard" and "passes going astray". We have had much poorer football in the A League in the past and people still turned up. I saw people walk away from Hindmarsh recently because they refused to wear a mask on entering. Doesn't seem to be affecting the AFL crowds at Adelaide Oval though, are they not refusing to wear masks? I know with the AFL here people where gagging to get tickets to the MCG with 50% capacity and ticket allocations selling out in minutes.. its not just Covid.... or poor football..... Probably some are refusing, but as AFL is far more popular than sockah it doesn't make any difference, As for the MCG, people in Melbourne would shrivel up and die without their AFL footy fix. i saw this posted somewhere else average AFL crowds so far in 2021 ------ MCG - 43K Perth - 36k Adelaide - 29k SCG - 26K GABBA - 23K Gold Coast - 7K Giants - 5K COVID isn't the cause of poor crowds for the AL. The average attendance at the AFL this season is down 6,000 on the last non covid affected season. That is a 16% drop. The AFL hasn't had this low an average attendance since the mid 1990's. are you trying to make us feel better ??!
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Just have to get this season over and done with, and that goes for all sport.
I would say this: any sort of disruption has a bigger impact on us because we are starting from a long way down.
So if the AFL loses about 6k or 16% from their 36k average, they are still siting on on something like 30k...they'll bounce back from that in future years.
We lose about 25% from already depressed crowds of 8k, it's only a drop of 2k, but that 6k average attendance starts to look dire.
We'll probably bounce back, but make take twice as long, maybe even require twice the effort.
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7676 @ Leichhardt yesterday.
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