AFL I think will hold up well, but NRL crowds are a lot flakier so it will be interesting to see if there's any drop-off there. They likely won't have to deal with closed borders and masses of re-arranged fixtures though.

FFS my phone keyboard skills are rubbish 

Hard to how the A league recovers. I expect NRL and AFL attendances to be close to the normal.

When a business has fallen like the A league has, it I'd very very difficult go come back. The football had been horrible today mediocre ands the public appear to haven given up on the competition. 

I agree with those calling for the radical change. Nothing short off a rebrand and rebuild will do. I've come to around to three view that's pro/rel is an absolute necessity as part of that. 

This article puts A-League attendances this season in context:

https://www.austadiums.com/news/1140/bbl-crowds-drop-to-new-low-as-covid-continues-to-impact-sport

To sum up, we're doing a hell of a lot better than BBL (which is about 75% down from its pre-Covid highpoint) and AFLW (about 66% down). But strangely the NBL is weathering the storm the best, at about 4800 per game, down from 7000 pre-Covid. Strange because you'd think people would be more averse to indoor events at smaller capacity venues. But they do also seem to be on a growth trajectory at the moment.

It will be interesting see how AFL and NRL manage. They will probably have less fixture disruption to contend with barring another massive outbreak but may see a residual drop due to Covid paranoia.

More people at a midweek game in Parramatta, just, than at AAMI Park tonight  
Which is a worse outcome?

Have to add that there were more in attendance at the Wanderers v Melb City game than at AAMI Park tonight.

So you are content to allow discrimination based on perceived ethnicity to be a normalised part of society moving forward?
Wow, and you say I have problems.... thats so sad on so many levels mate...

:hehe::hehe: I did laugh, well done.
Unless you're serious, then you have problems :hehe::hehe:

I think radical change is needed. It doesn't mean getting rid of the A-League or any of the teams, but it would mean the following:

- expand the league to 16 teams, with a double round-robin 30-match season (this could be staged with 14 teams in 2023 and 16 in 2025)
- implement the domestic transfer system
- scrap the salary cap (but have financial sustainability licensing rules as in Japan)
- establish a second division (playing a standard winter season), which would itself expand to 16 teams within a few years and have immediate pro-rel with the NPL
- this might have to wait till the end of the current broadcasting contract in 2026, but: switch the A-League to a March-November season and introduce pro-rel with the second division

The result of all this is that the richest clubs (namely Sydney, Victory, Wanderers, City) would likely end up becoming a big 4 which will mostly monopolise the top positions in the league. The likes of Perth, Brisbane and Adelaide may be able to make sporadic title challenges, but the remainder of the A-League would mainly be focussed on avoiding relegation rather than thinking they can compete for the title. Having such a spectrum of clubs may be anathema in Australian professional sport which rewarding mediocrity through drafts and salary caps, but it's how football works in most of the world. It would also mean the bigger clubs would be better able to participate in Asia and hopefully in the long-term we can compete with clubs from Korea, Japan, etc (our concrete goal should be to replace Thailand as the 4th ranked league in East Asia, which would give us 2+2 spots in the ACL).

It might also mean that one or two "ethnic heritage" clubs like South Melbourne or Sydney United make it into the A-League every now and again, but hey, it's 2022.

The injustice you walk past is the one you accept. If that sits well with you then fine, but I care about what sort of society my kids and their kids will inherit.

What other conclusion can you draw mate? CBS must be ruing the day they shelled out $200 million (or whatever) for this dross.

I know SydneyFC you think tearing the A-League up and starting again (as I and others) have suggested is not the answer but it's getting to the point now if they don't do something radical it will die of natural causes anyway. 

Yes covid, this covid that. Wait until the NRL starts up again. Guaranteed they won't be suffering from crowd declines like we are.

Getting back to the topic of this board.
Is it true that the official attendance for yesterday's Nix v Roar game was 38?
If it is true, that would mean that there were more players, coaches and refs on the turf than there were spectators in the stands.
You can play an u12 game anywhere in Australia and that would not be the case.

Stop bringing it up then

That certainly explains a lot in respect to you.

I have never seen you post ANYTHING other than negative put downs 😂😂😂

Why the fuck are you here? Go outside, go for a swim or take a walk around your local park.  Do something that makes you happy instead of wallowing around here dragging the rest of us down with you. 

I agree mate.... Imagine explaining to someone from any other part of the world that in Australia we exclude football clubs from the national competition based solely on them being founded by immigrants 60-100 years ago? And then also telling them that a big segment of the "mainstream" football public agrees with this because "something, something bad old days of effnik NSL"

You were saying Mensa? …..

https://streamable.com/vpatd1

Feel free to tell me otherwise. Official announced attendance 4500 🤣

Careful.

you're sounding like an AFL plant.

I didnt think it was possible for an official crowd of 38 (Phoenix v Brisbane) - surely they could have added ground staff or something to tip it over 100.

Wanderers crowd looked even less than the home match last week

But what’s your point mate? What do you want? Should we all stop watching a league? Like maybe make a point rather then take pot shots

That's how out of touch and arrogant you are. I have been a football follower for 25 yrs of my life, but, I'm not dumb enough to believe only Football supporters are able to count.
It's easier to put someone down when you lack intelligence.

Imagine investing as much time and effort as you do into counting football crowds when you don't even consider yourself a football person.

There really are some genuinely pathetic individuals on this forum.

I think anyone who is narrow minded is pretty silly in general 

3 sides of the ground were closed

5,000 capacity stand was under the cameras

No different to the people who have made up their minds about the old NSL and posting the same shit mate?

Some people have already made up their mind about the a league and just post the same shit 

As a general rule, I don't like to estimate crowds from the TV angle, given the members are generally on the camera side.
Having said that, remember in the final year of Gold Coast United, and quite literally, there was not one single person present on 3 sides of the ground, and they'd post crowds of around 2,300!

Are you saying only Football people are capable of estimating crowd numbers?
How arrogant. Considering the low numbers, I'd wager that most people could get within a couple of hundred of the crowd size.

I find it amazing that these people who never go to games think they can accurately guess how many were at the ground. 

Wow, shame we cant post photos/videos on here.

the WSW crowd against Melb City was officially 4500. There is no chance that there was more than 1500 and it looked closer to 1200-1300.

How to improve crowds
- Sydney FC: invest in cocaine to give the construction crew to work faster so they can play in the SFS sooner
- Perth and Wellington Actually play games in Perth and Wellington
- Western United: Pay Melbourne Knights to upgrade and play at Somer St permanently
- Brisbane move to QSAC on a permanent basis or when they can afford to buy and upgrade Perry Park
- NewCastle get new owners
- WSW win some games 
- Bulls merge with Marconi and Macarthur Rams to form: Macarthur Livestock FC

Those crowds are actually good, they are all bunched together around a similar mid-point, and in the current environment, I take that as a positive.