Thanks for answering lads I’m up for a discussion and loving hearing different points.

as a 90s kid i got into afl through my family but played football on weekends. In 2005 I followed liverpool because I loved Gerrard I would watch as many matches as I could (05 champions league run has a special place in my heart. Then when I finished school I drifted from afl and followed Melbourne heart. Now days I’m only interested in melbourne city and Australian football (thanks to this forum) I go out of my way to watch the Aussies abroad when they are on tv. 

There are no guarantees in life, and this is no exception, no one should think that P&R fixes things automatically.
For me personally, it's a matter of principle and fairness.
The AFL/NRL (and American way more generally) of doing things is that some are allowed to sup at the big person's table.  This effectively enshrines "bigness" in perpetuity because no one can ever share in the revenue streams that the elite competition makes compared to all other levels.
In our case, one person was given absolute power to decide who was in and who was out, those on the outer were consigned to being bit players for evermore - not because they necessarily did anything wrong - but because one person deemed it would be thus.
In reality, there is zero reason why, say, a club like Western United, should be allowed the privilege ahead of anyone else, or why, say, the Mariners should be allowed in ahead of another 20 clubs who'd have the capacity to earn the same revenue if they too were playing in the top tier.
So at the heart of it for me it's a matter of principle.  It's just plain wrong professional football should be structured in this manner.

MCG thanks agreed no worries.....
I do recall some of your history having seen it before so yer cool.
I knew for sure like most down there have to support afl, glad to see you saw the light and LFC :) and Heart actually even though its not my mojo overall.

bettega mentions what I had in my head earlier thinking to say which is spot on, nothing is garanteed and our game has never had its act together due to all the dramas we've all bantered on forever and a day and thats the thing.
Talking Pro sport putting aside all the backroom politics/shennanigans/stuff ups yaddayadda at least they have their game up front and centre and accepted/known top comp with some form of respect.
We don't have that and with all the numbers that are involved in football right around the country its ridiculous might I add.
Those other sports also don't have the liberty of P/R like our game is known for.
Wouldn't you think what that would be like to see IF the game and its constichuants were linked bottom to top top to bottom.
Funding spread where it needs to be more, better coaching for all Jnrs, a system that each State works similar/together, decrease some of the layers that are holding back letting go.
Build it I think it has chance to grow but will take time - humans dislike change but we love competition.
P/R battles excite, it just may bring in a few more year by year.

I would love to see p/r happen but I just don’t think we have any suits that can make it happen. I’d go as far to say I can’t really remember when a good decision was made by admin. Everything is a failure perth glory doesn’t have a stadium, victory doesn’t have its own training base, paramount and keep up are lackluster western United MacArthur.. lucky the sport is entertaining to us hardcores 

Football is Life mate... Dont worry about everything outside your club....  All the other franchises failing around you should be a good thing.. easier for CFG to win..  Don't worry about the "suits", most of them dont even watch the games nor agonise over the Socceroos like we do.... They are producers on a TV show and just look at the bottom line. Full Pro/Rel may never happen IMO but you just focus on the club you love, whatever league it is in and attend/watch as much as you can. 

A while ago it was mentioned that paramount Plus would be getting an App on foxtel boxes so that you can access paramount straight from Foxtel.

Does anyone know if/when this is happening? Would make a world of difference with people that already have Foxtel and want to watch A-league games. 

Good question that effects me at my Ma’s house she has Foxtel. I might message them see if I can get an answer 

Foxtel messaged me back said sometime in 2022 so there ya go 

This news is only marginally related to the broadcast of the A-League, but it looks like the AFL is staying with Foxtel and Seven.
I'm hearing mixed news on the length of the deal and the money involved.
Looks like at least a few billion, but not sure of the exact details.

They announced 4.5 Billion for 7 years (642 per year) starting 2025. 

Yeh, just saw it on twitter.
That's a lot of money.

Fans saying there won’t be free to air Saturday night and Sunday games some games might even delayed so very risky 

yeah incredibly risky signing a $4.5 billion tv rights deal.

:hehe:

Well it could back fire if nobody buys kayo smarty pants 

The afl have $4.5 billion dollars tucked away in their sky rocket.

How does that backfire for them?

I realise we all hate the AFL no matter what on this site, but seriously, I had to laugh at the suggestion that this deal could be "risky" for them. 

I know what you meant.
It's a long deal, and it starts well into the future, goes from 2025-31.
So it's true that a bit of risk attaches to it.
The dollars involved are huge, almost so big they are difficult to comprehend.
It's actually $200 million per annum higher than what the NRL gets.

As for football, combining both the A-League and our national teams, this deal is over 10x the size on an annualised basis.

There was a time when we thought we were rapidly closing the gap on the big winter sports.

When Lowy signed our first proper broadcast deal, it was worth $17 million per annum.  At the time, the AFL was in the final year of a deal worth $100 million per annum, or under 6x more.

20 years on (in 2025), and the AFL deal will be worth over 10x more.

In other words, whatever promise was held of making up the gap all those years ago - it's gone.  Today, the gap between the two leagues is as massive as it has ever been and the reality is that as of today, there is zero prospect of making up that difference in the foreseeable future.

Matildas got 97k last night on bold 

That's pretty good.

6

FOOTBALL: MATILDAS V CANADA

10 Bold

97,000

52,000

17,000

14,000

6,000

8,000

Could be a record low rating for an AFL grand final

Mr TV Australia@MrTVAusThe breakdowns for yesterday’s #AFLGF (not including the match) would also be concerning for the AFL and Seven.It appears there was a ‘lack of interest’ from many from the get-go! eg. record-low for the Pre Match (despite being hailed as the best ever) too.

That' s  interesting .

I  suppose   having   no  team  from  Melbourne   proper   and  a   team  from  Sydney/NSW   where   few   care   about   the   sport , were   probably   contributing   factors .  Not   to   mention  that   from  what   I   saw   of   the   final  score ,  it   was   a   blowout   and   probably   barely   a   contest .

Didn' t    they    just    sign  a   multi -  Billion   dollar   broadcasting    deal ?  I   have  a   feeling  they   might   just  be   ok ...

it's a record. 

900k less watched this year.

Some of the crowds at AFLW on weekend 1,345, 2028, 2007....that's also fluffing numbers. Unbelievable considering how much money and exposure they've had pumped in

Get a massive deal like that, the broadcaster then owns the football code, shows no fta games.
Let's hope it's the case with Afl anyway.

Anybody know the ratings for last night? 

99k
Ten (main channel) finished last of the five channels.
SBS was able to sneak into the top 20 with "Secrets of the Royal Palaces".

Big blue got 90k last night on ten bold 

What was showing on Ten’s main channel? As I assume the game was on Bold. 99k is pretty good. 

If the quality last nights game had continues those rating will improve

5

FOOTBALL: ISUZU UTE A-LEAGUE

10 Bold

90,000

42,000

32,000

9,000

3,000

4,000

42,000 - Sydney
32,000 - Melbourne
9,000 - Brisbane
3,000 - Adelaide
4,000 - Perrth

12

FOOTBALL: ISUZU UTE A-LEAGUE POST GAME

10 Bold

75,000

28,000

27,000

11,000

5,000

3,000

Post game would have been the Matildas game.