More bad news for australia on the league rankings front


More bad news for australia on the league rankings front

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Source: https://twitter.com/theaseanball

I dont know how true this is so take it with a grain of salt.

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Something is really scetchy if Australia can drop 9 places in 2 years, and the Philippines, Turkmanistan, and Tajikistan, that have never even been in the comp are considered superior.
The point structure doesn't make sense, and noting also the strength of the eastern conference, it seems to be having a detrimental affect to team that aren't 1 their pools

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No one cares for the ACL anyway, it’s a financial burden for our teams. Until the AFC make the competition lucrative and not damaging why should we respect it?
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Found this

http://www.insideworldfootball.com/2016/11/25/afc-rethinks-afc-cup-format-ranking-criteria-foreign-player-quotas/

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Explains why we dropped like a stone. But still don't understand the point structure
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Ranked one spot above Singapore.

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Dan_The_Red - 26 Feb 2021 7:20 AM
No one cares for the ACL anyway, it’s a financial burden for our teams. Until the AFC make the competition lucrative and not damaging why should we respect it?

Even if this were true, you could use the exact same argument as to why no one cares about the a-league.

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I think the A league clubs do care about the ACL and  take it seriously. Our teams play their best players throughout the tournament. China, Korea and Japan often run with 2nd string teams. We've even had adjustment of the A League schedule to accommodate ACL participating teams in recent years. The lack of depth in A league squads due to the salary cap is probably a big disadvantage for us. We are forced to use more players on a short turnaround so our teams tend to run out of gas. The depth in the Wanderers squad this season would probably hold it in good stead if they were competing in the ACL this year. 

These South East Asian teams are overtaking us in the AFC rankings by racking up points in the AFC Cup. You're better off winning a large number of games in the AFC Cup then getting just 1 or 2 wins in the ACL. There's nothing wrong with the AFC points system, you need an avenue for lower teams and nations to progress (some A league owners may not agree I guess). Australia would be better off ranking-wise if we had one team in the AFC Cup, perhaps instead of a half spot in the ACL.



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Taking the ACL serious or not, by just having only 1 ACL spot it makes difficult for the APL or the FA in giving that spot to, just shows how important is for teams in taking this tournament more serious as it effects the rankings for the rest of the teams here.
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Eldar - 26 Feb 2021 8:50 AM
Dan_The_Red - 26 Feb 2021 7:20 AM

Even if this were true, you could use the exact same argument as to why no one cares about the a-league.

How? The aleague is the national comp, any one how cares about the development of Australian players should care about the National Comp.
The ACL commences in 2 months, 8 months after FC won, it is a financial burden on the club's, and normally ends with A-league teams having to prioritise between a competion stacked against them and a competitive national league.
To add the A-league, doesn't even show the ACL respect with no bye weeks, and scheduling discrepancies.
It's insulting, and the AFC borders on farcical
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Very hard for the A-League clubs to put everything into it because of timing issues, and of course, they lose a stack of money just taking part in it.
Of course, the timing issues could be fixed up with us aligning more with the East Asian season.

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do we lose points if we dont perform well or something? how on earth are we below some of those countries.
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jas88 - 26 Feb 2021 11:33 AM
do we lose points if we dont perform well or something? how on earth are we below some of those countries.

Asian logic
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jas88 - 26 Feb 2021 11:33 AM
do we lose points if we dont perform well or something? how on earth are we below some of those countries.

Because some of these countries pick up points in the AFC Cup
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i must wonder how we will go in the afc cup instead.

It will still be a financial burden on our clubs because of the travelling we have to do
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heyitsrobbie1984 - 26 Feb 2021 12:56 PM
i must wonder how we will go in the afc cup instead.

It will still be a financial burden on our clubs because of the travelling we have to do

Who care, it's a Europa league, all money no prestige
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huddo - 26 Feb 2021 1:06 PM
heyitsrobbie1984 - 26 Feb 2021 12:56 PM

Who care, it's a Europa league, all money no prestige

you say we should just not compete in the afc cup as well? we really need those points
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Dan_The_Red - 26 Feb 2021 7:20 AM
No one cares for the ACL anyway, it’s a financial burden for our teams. Until the AFC make the competition lucrative and not damaging why should we respect it?

This is not true. Tony Sage said it was a "dream" to qualify and compete in the ACL!
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huddo - 26 Feb 2021 1:06 PM
heyitsrobbie1984 - 26 Feb 2021 12:56 PM

Who care, it's a Europa league, all money no prestige

Does that logic apply to the A League where there is no money or prestige?
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heyitsrobbie1984 - 26 Feb 2021 12:56 PM
i must wonder how we will go in the afc cup instead.

It will still be a financial burden on our clubs because of the travelling we have to do

Travel is paid for by the AFC 
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heyitsrobbie1984 - 26 Feb 2021 1:14 PM
huddo - 26 Feb 2021 1:06 PM

you say we should just not compete in the afc cup as well? we really need those points

No I didn't say that, I'm saying there is no need to prioritize it.
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Burztur - 26 Feb 2021 1:32 PM
huddo - 26 Feb 2021 1:06 PM

Does that logic apply to the A League where there is no money or prestige?

It's a national comp, the prestige is what Australians make it.
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China No2, gimmi a break. Is this table run by Chinese interests? I notice down below it says Chinese Taipei and not Taiwan. Might be a clue right here.

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paulc - 26 Feb 2021 2:14 PM
China No2, gimmi a break. Is this table run by Chinese interests? I notice down below it says Chinese Taipei and not Taiwan. Might be a clue right here.

well they do have the money, and money builds you strong clubs and a really strong team

Money runs this game and we have nothing.
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It's a shame they didn't factor in the points from 2020. Victory getting to the 2nd round and Sydney winning/drawing a couple of games at the end will have certainly given us more points than the likes of Phillipines, Vietnam and Nth Korea. 

Worst case scenario a couple of Aussie teams play in the AFC cup... at least we may have a chance at winning something.
 
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heyitsrobbie1984 - 26 Feb 2021 3:23 PM
paulc - 26 Feb 2021 2:14 PM

well they do have the money, and money builds you strong clubs and a really strong team

Money runs this game and we have nothing.

Except it doesn't, Iceland does have money they made the world cup, el galacticos had money and struggled, Leicester didn't have money and won, and they beat every team with money.
It doesn't matter if you have money, it's finding value for the money you have.
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so we  drop  9  places  in the last 2  years , and  theSuits at  F.A  thinks  it is ok  to  halve  the  Salery  cap ?!  Can  you  beleive  that ? !
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Remote Control - 26 Feb 2021 7:22 PM
so we  drop  9  places  in the last 2  years , and  theSuits at  F.A  thinks  it is ok  to  halve  the  Salery  cap ?!  Can  you  beleive  that ? !

Can't live outside your means
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huddo - 26 Feb 2021 7:26 PM
Remote Control - 26 Feb 2021 7:22 PM

Can't live outside your means

which also means we are handicapped on the world stage. cant do much about it to be honest
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heyitsrobbie1984 - 26 Feb 2021 9:25 PM
huddo - 26 Feb 2021 7:26 PM

which also means we are handicapped on the world stage. cant do much about it to be honest

Who cares, as long as we fuck em in WC Quals were not. They can keep there 50 k a game. We get to the WC and it's worth alot more than the 5.5 million the winner accumulates.
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