1st vs 5th 

Mariners 2-1

Mariners 4-1.

Wanderers looked a bit dodgy against us, and we can't score. Mariners can.

Yeah, imagine how many goals Matt Simon would be scoring if he was our point man. And I am serious!

Is it stilled capped capacity at 50% cause on Ticketek their not much available to buy from or r we looking at a bigger crowd than expected?

come on mate, lets get these match threads in order eh.
Bank West Stad
7.05pm koff.

Go CCM knock off those westies - 3-2 win.

Nice goal

If there's one player I've not been able to gauge in the last two years due to not watching his games it''s Baccus. Is the hype right?

As Carl Robinson has said, he does the hard things well and the easy things not so well. He doesn’t scan well when receiving in midfield, but he’s tidy in tight spaces, a good tackler, strong in the dribble. Yet he still gives the ball away far too much. Good player, but needs to improve a lot 

Yep that seems to tell me exactly why there's some hype but also doubt. Schwegler compared him to ex Hannover teammate Bakalorz. Yep. loses the ball but somehow weaves his way out of tight spots.

Game changing moment there perhaps. Aquilina is an exciting prospect.

Unlike Kamau who continues to disappoint

Fixed 

Ding. But I do agree. Fortunate for him to get that one.

Make that 2

Christ what a miss.

Would anyone like me to ask a question to my crystal ball? Charlied can criticise things to turn their fortune if you like instead.

Definitely I claim credit for both goals. 

Clearly I provoked Kamau into lifting his game

Baccus has just kicked him in their air. Pen.

Get in!

Tough one to cop for Baccus. 

Great game. Nisbet is a good player 

Also, troisi is such a passenger. His best days are behind him. 

Yeah I don't what he brings to the team. Average passer, he's a 10 but he's not a playmaker and he doesn't score goals. So what's his purpose in the side? 

Enjoyed that. Some good young players about and everyone giving some effort.

Another great game. Well done both coaches and both teams.

Great game. CCM lucky at the end.

That was fun. Would have liked the three points but thoroughly enjoyed the tension. Beer stains on the couch tonight.

Natta is such a talent. 18 years old - he was the best defender on the park tonight, particularly in the second half,  despite having missed last game with a concussion. Outstanding passer, very composed in defence 

Tongyik for me was better, he kept Duke quite all night which isnt an easy task.

Tongjik is looking to me like he could play at a high level in Europe.  Amazing that he "failed" at Melb City and Brisbane.

Mind you Joyce at City was surely one of the worst coaches we've seen here.  His appointment is still inexplicable.  And I think that was Brisbane at the end of the Aloisi period.

I don't think much of the Wanderers.  Troisi offers so little to the team in a key position and Baccus is good one game, poor the next, in a position that requires consistency.  There's just a general lack of quality in the team.  Ibini isn't the player he was.  Duke is a dynamo but he's a blunt battering ram of a player.  Cox isn't worth a visa place.  Muller was so good last season but seems in poor form now. 

They need an Ono level player to lift the team.  Kamau could make a difference if he can play to last night's form consistently.

A couple of more seasons being consistent at the A League, possible inclusion into the Socceroos & possible exposure at the WC then who knows. 

He's a very composed defender that's for sure. 

After his time at Brisbane Roar I thought it was over for him at aleague and must be a fell from grace after his promising start at Melb City, so good to see him take his chance and turn his career around and probably is shaping to get some decent offers to Asia and even Europe if he keeps it up.

Tongyik is better atm 100%. But Natta is 18, and already one of the best ball playing centre backs in the league. Technically he’s superb, he will get stronger and better defensively. Good in the air too already and excellent 1v1. When was the last time we had an 18 year old centre back starting every game for one of the best teams in the A-League? 

Natta is an absolute gun for his age - maybe too young & inexperienced to make the Olyroos squad this time, but wouldn't disgrace himself if he was in a back 3 with Souttar & Deng next to him. I would've said he was the pick of the defenders in that game. If he keeps developing & improving over the next few seasons, he's going to be one hell of a player

Agree he’s very accomplished on the ball, probably one of the best ball playing defenders in the league already.

Bright future if he keeps it up.

Nearly 10k tonight it adds so much to the coverage 

Another great game, CCM had the better control of the game but didnt take their chances albeit from poor finishing and from desperate defending by WSW.

WSW showed good fight but got badly exposed by their faulty structure, they really need Ugarkovic to get better control in games as CCM had a field day against Baccus.

Kamau was great and maybe deserves a start instead, for me it was a pen as Kuol got in front of Baccus and usually means penalty in VAR terms.

I can now see CCM winning the premiership depending Melb City's mood.

Great to see CCM annihilate WSW, just a shame they couldn't take their chances. Should have won by 3-4 goals. 

Tongyik can be a tad over adventurous but is clearly destined for the top - great player and nailed on Socceroo.

Natta impresses me hugely also. And Kye Rowles - he's gone to a new level this year.

Baccus being pushed hard in the back in the box (by accident) should have been a pen, and I hate that the ref and VAR don't give stuff about a foul if a player does not fall over or appeal.

It is the very thing that players say forces their hand into exaggeration and how can you argue against it when the officials do not do their job.

VAR should have looked at that just like every other decision in the box and got the ref to look at the monitor - then a pen given.

Mariners deserved a win based on chances overall - both teams had chances to 'easily' score more. Good game.

For me, Kamau is a smarter finisher than Ibini and much more dangerous as an individual when running.

Mariners supporter here. I cannot agree with you more. 

Natta got monstered in the air by city 

Didn't see that game. Who by? Rostyn Griffiths?   

Tongyik gotta be in that 1000 man Socceroos squad. He adds so much more than say a Bailey Wright technically, and is a proper good alternative to Sainsbury/Deng in partnering Souttar.

If either Good or Tongyik get in the next squad I’ll be happy.

He actually had an excellent game against City but was outjumped at the far post by RG - leading to a goal.

RG will do that to anyone though.

I would certainly take Natta to the Olympics. Wasn't Harry Kewell only 17 when he became a full Socceroo?

 You're comparing a once in a generation player to Natta ? 

Natta's older already than the once in a generation player (re Socceroos selection).

And I'm picking him for the Olyroos - so no, I'm not comparing him with Kewell at all.

Good player though...