Manchester United looking to buy the mariners and move them to Sydney


Manchester United looking to buy the mariners and move them to Sydney

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 Its has nothing to do with growing the A-League or football in Australia. This about Man U growing its brand into Asia. And  for brand awareness, Sydney is for more recognizable and marketable than Gosford.  If it goes through there will no Mariners identity beyond the letters "CCM" on the back neckline of the players red shirts.
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Enzo Bearzot - 13 Apr 2021 1:20 PM
 Its has nothing to do with growing the A-League or football in Australia. This about Man U growing its brand into Asia. And  for brand awareness, Sydney is for more recognizable and marketable than Gosford.  If it goes through there will no Mariners identity beyond the letters "CCM" on the back neckline of the players red shirts.

So Sydney FC should be in the frame them. Why move a club to an oval 10 mins away from Allianz?  
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patjennings - 13 Apr 2021 2:39 PM
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So Sydney FC should be in the frame them. Why move a club to an oval 10 mins away from Allianz?  


SFC is not for sale.  


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Money talks though, look how much publicity it has generated in the news outlets today?

As others mentioned Man United will want a team in a large market like Sydney or Melbourne so they can be closer to the Asian market, and with Man City owning Melb City it just leads Man United into the Sydney market for what prevail who knows but it also doesn't stop them in creating a new team on its own either.
It would be some brave men at APL and Football Australia to say no to their money and corporate appeal it would bring to the sport here.

Curious times.
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Enzo Bearzot - 13 Apr 2021 2:48 PM
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SFC is not for sale.  


Everything is at a price
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Man U would have to pay A LOT more for Sydney FC.  And SFC's owner is very rich, we know how they are-refuse to sell it out of spite to another rich owner, unless it was the deal of a life time
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Barca4Life - 13 Apr 2021 2:49 PM
Money talks though, look how much publicity it has generated in the news outlets today?

As others mentioned Man United will want a team in a large market like Sydney or Melbourne so they can be closer to the Asian market, and with Man City owning Melb City it just leads Man United into the Sydney market for what prevail who knows but it also doesn't stop them in creating a new team on its own either.
It would be some brave men at APL and Football Australia to say no to their money and corporate appeal it would bring to the sport here.

Curious times.

I can see Manu investing - just makes no sense with the Mariners. They want a satellite feeder club - they can do that at Gosford. Take the best talent from Australia and feed them through their system. Man Utd and Man City will dominate the league and will only attract more money. All the best players and youth will go through their academies for the connection to England. They don't have to be in Sydney for that 

Why not start a new club. NSO Oval is 10 kms from Allianz and is an Oval. If they don't go there where do they go. Brookvale's crumbling stadium with poor transport links? About the only place that makes sense is Chatswood Oval which is quite narrow and use the Bowling club on the other side of the line as the training area. They would then need to arrange for the relocation of Northern Districts cricket, Gordon rugby Union and Chatswood Bowling Club.

Why not Canberra United? Build the Civic Stadium, rent it to the NRL and Rugby as appropriate. Reconnect football to the AIS. This pocket money for someone as big as ManU.

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patjennings - 13 Apr 2021 2:52 PM
Enzo Bearzot - 13 Apr 2021 2:48 PM

Everything is at a price

Yep. And the price for the cash strapped mariners is probably a fair bit lower.

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FWIW it sounds like a terrible idea. Surely they'd look at Melbourne City with a fair amount of trepidation in terms of how much success they can have at building the brand with a sister club. At least city play out of a high quality rectangular stadium. NSO would be a disaster. 

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patjennings - 13 Apr 2021 3:11 PM
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I can see Manu investing - just makes no sense with the Mariners. They want a satellite feeder club - they can do that at Gosford. Take the best talent from Australia and feed them through their system. Man Utd and Man City will dominate the league and will only attract more money. All the best players and youth will go through their academies for the connection to England. They don't have to be in Sydney for that 

Why not start a new club. NSO Oval is 10 kms from Allianz and is an Oval. If they don't go there where do they go. Brookvale's crumbling stadium with poor transport links? About the only place that makes sense is Chatswood Oval which is quite narrow and use the Bowling club on the other side of the line as the training area. They would then need to arrange for the relocation of Northern Districts cricket, Gordon rugby Union and Chatswood Bowling Club.

Why not Canberra United? Build the Civic Stadium, rent it to the NRL and Rugby as appropriate. Reconnect football to the AIS. This pocket money for someone as big as ManU.

I think this could be a smoke screen for something more bigger like buying an license to get into the aleague.

The things will conflict of interest get in the way with APL or would the commercial and financial appeal of Man United’ investment would be too good to refuse?
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sydneyfc1987 - 13 Apr 2021 3:54 PM
FWIW it sounds like a terrible idea. Surely they'd look at Melbourne City with a fair amount of trepidation in terms of how much success they can have at building the brand with a sister club. At least city play out of a high quality rectangular stadium. NSO would be a disaster. 

One deal akin to Aaron Mooy's move to China would say that Manchester City are well ahead in the deal. Its a no brainer that they want to come.
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Footballking55 - 13 Apr 2021 4:37 PM
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One deal akin to Aaron Mooy's move to China would say that Manchester City are well ahead in the deal. Its a no brainer that they want to come.

Very true.  Maybe the move to the APL ownership of e league, will bring more interest from these larger groups.
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aok - 13 Apr 2021 4:50 PM
Footballking55 - 13 Apr 2021 4:37 PM

Very true.  Maybe the move to the APL ownership of e league, will bring more interest from these larger groups.

The whole Premier League start up in the early 90's was all about ownership of their "property". Now that the ownership side of things is resolved here, it is only a matter of time that the big clubs will come to the party.
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libelous - 13 Apr 2021 11:49 AM
I would say this story has more to do with distracting media attention away from FA’s huge new sponsorship with Commonwealth Bank.

"huge"  huh.  So  how  much  is it ?
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libelous - 13 Apr 2021 11:49 AM
I would say this story has more to do with distracting media attention away from FA’s huge new sponsorship with Commonwealth Bank.
As to who would want to dampen that story I can only speculate.

Dan_The_Red - 13 Apr 2021 1:19 PM
My first thought also, very interesting timing.

It is a sorry state of affairs if the APL is trying to keep the FA out of the tiny news window allotted to Football.

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Won’t happen but at least it gets us in the media. 
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Georgeg - 13 Apr 2021 6:01 PM
Won’t happen but at least it gets us in the media. 

Yeah peacock said it’s bullshit. Mods close the thread 
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bad idea. 

Man United should invest in the Wollongong Wolves instead. 

They wear the same colours, dont they?
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libelous - 13 Apr 2021 11:49 AM

"huge"  huh.  So  how  much  is it ?

Millions.....you don’t need to know the details.
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lost - 13 Apr 2021 5:18 PM
libelous - 13 Apr 2021 11:49 AM

Dan_The_Red - 13 Apr 2021 1:19 PM

It is a sorry state of affairs if the APL is trying to keep the FA out of the tiny news window allotted to Football.

Why do you think that the APL are behind this story?
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libelous - 13 Apr 2021 6:19 PM
Remote Control - 13 Apr 2021 5:14 PM

Millions.....you don’t need to know the details.

So  in  other words,  you  don't know
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Rugari is talking shit. This came out tonighr

https://amp.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/it-would-be-exciting-wouldn-t-it-fa-open-to-man-u-s-mariners-buyout-20210413-p57is2.html?__twitter_impression=true

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with all this money around can't they just issue some new "licenses"
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conm - 13 Apr 2021 7:58 PM

with all this money around can't they just issue some new "licenses"

That's a good point.
Although I"m guessing the likes of Man Utd will only want to buy into Sydney.

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I just don’t see how another club in Sydney would work. 

The Central Coast may not be a huge market, but it has done very well in terms of support, but commercial deals tend to be more limited.

Will the interest that Canberra and the Gold Coast had in joining be seriously considered by APL? It’s been silent on that front, likely due to more pressing issues  around broadcasting deals and Covid challenges.

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Heart_fan - 13 Apr 2021 9:19 PM
I just don’t see how another club in Sydney would work. 

The Central Coast may not be a huge market, but it has done very well in terms of support, but commercial deals tend to be more limited.

Will the interest that Canberra and the Gold Coast had in joining be seriously considered by APL? It’s been silent on that front, likely due to more pressing issues  around broadcasting deals and Covid challenges.

Sydney is so large, Honestly.
You have Sydney fc in the north/west. Their training base going to be built soon at Maquarie/Ryde and their
homeground will be the new Allianz Stadium in the East of Sydney, nowhere near their training base infact;
There are the Wanderers in the West, at Parramatta's Bankwest Stadium;
There are the McArthur fc Bulls playing out in the South/West at Campbelltown Stadium;
There is room at the Northern Beaches/North Sydney region where Man U want the Mariners to move to;
There is the Southern Sydney region which stretches across the StGeorge and Cronulla areas and as Sydney fc do currently, a team can
play out at Netstrata Jubilee or even Shark Park (further South are where the Wollongong Wolves live just outside of Sydney);
These five Sydney areas could have a club each and co-exist and do not tread on anyone elses toes, regardless of the bullshit that the
 clubs go on about in regards to where their boundaries are.
If the APL/FA want Man U to be involved with the A League, they can release a new License in the North or the South and they can exist in the
Sydney market where the business action is.
Then, there is Canberra waiting for entry with that Saudi Oilers consortium backing them. Why on Earth are the APL/FA not rolling out the red carpet
and rolling them all in? They have to think Macro, not micro. This is how TV interest increases.



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soccerfoo - 13 Apr 2021 9:13 AM

Difference with Heart is they didnt need to relocate as they already were in Melbourne, however this is moving a team into a different area where fans have that emotional attachment too. 

maybe they will just wait a few years like melbourne city then move the club with no consultation with fans

 




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maybe they will just wait a few years like melbourne city then move the club with no consultation with fans

City did due diligence. Many of their small fan base are in the S/E. They need to find more fans. They put out a great brand of Football and they needed to get out of that Northern Melbourne 'City' area to find their identity, in a clinical way, over two seasons. Their women's team have gone already.
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soccerfoo - 13 Apr 2021 9:54 PM
Heart_fan - 13 Apr 2021 9:19 PM

Sydney is so large, Honestly.
You have Sydney fc in the north/west. Their training base going to be built soon at Maquarie/Ryde and their
homeground will be the new Allianz Stadium in the East of Sydney, nowhere near their training base infact;
There are the Wanderers in the West, at Parramatta's Bankwest Stadium;
There are the McArthur fc Bulls playing out in the South/West at Campbelltown Stadium;
There is room at the Northern Beaches/North Sydney region where Man U want the Mariners to move to;
There is the Southern Sydney region which stretches across the StGeorge and Cronulla areas and as Sydney fc do currently, a team can
play out at Netstrata Jubilee or even Shark Park (further South are where the Wollongong Wolves live just outside of Sydney);
These five Sydney areas could have a club each and co-exist and do not tread on anyone elses toes, regardless of the bullshit that the
 clubs go on about in regards to where their boundaries are.
If the APL/FA want Man U to be involved with the A League, they can release a new License in the North or the South and they can exist in the
Sydney market where the business action is.
Then, there is Canberra waiting for entry with that Saudi Oilers consortium backing them. Why on Earth are the APL/FA not rolling out the red carpet
and rolling them all in? They have to think Macro, not micro. This is how TV interest increases.



Interesting times. 
I would love to see a team back on the Gold Coast. 
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Enzo Bearzot - 13 Apr 2021 8:27 AM
Sydney United..nope already taken....lets see..... North Sydney United  (worked for Macedonia)

Hahahahahah Not bad.
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