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+x+x+x+x+x+x+xTara is not happy with these fuckwits. Look at those red faced morons Good. Time for some serious questions to be answered. Not just off Arnold. How about we question how he ever ended up there? That that was our best option? How about we ask the question of the fact that he has the worst cattle to work with of any Socceroos manager in decades? And how about all this after a Frank Lowy-led revolution that included massive restructures that have yielded very little? How about the fact that some of the clubs in this country producing our best players within their own youth systems don’t even play top flight football? Or aren’t in a system in which they can work their way to the top? Harper is going on about investment. It’s not investment!! It’s the fucking structures that are the problem, and the attitudes of people within the system. Our A-League clubs are only just beginning to bring strong players through now, so things will improve. But we need dozens and dozens of clubs doing this. Not just our top 12 (realistically 5 or 6 of our “top 12”). Clubs like South Melbourne FC have produced dozens of players that have had world class careers in playing and coaching. Absolutely world class comment Tom. I agree 100% Hopefully this match was the final nail in the coffin of Frank Lowys attempt at destroying the game of football in Australia forever..... 1975-2004. NSL?whatever else it was called: WC's played: ZERO. Attendances: a bit above zero. Revenue: cevapi and souva's. Media interest: SBS (2% station rating, 0.02% football) 2005-2018: LOWY era. 4 World Cups. Asian Champions. Asian Champions League Champions. Confed Cup. Attendances: Peak at 60,000 for regular season game. 50,000 for grand finals. 14,000k average. Revenue circa $1 billion. Ratings: in 100,000's What did the Lowy's ever do for us? He also ruined our player development structures to the point where we calling up players that a) never been to a shores before and b) whom are 34 from other countries Look where its taken us eh? What happened under Lowy was not all bad that's for sure. BUT . Instead of introducing more teams and a second division and a pathway to a full pyramid when we were flying (circa 2012) they doubled down on their closed shop system. Remember 'fishing where the fish are'? Six year after the inception of the A-League, right? Would have killed the A-League by fracturing the fan base, issues with broadcast and owner licensing. Well we'll never know. Not doing anything has resulted in the shitshow we have now. Are you happy with a 12 team closed shop comp where the cost of entry is $15 million dollars for new aspirants? Meanwhile Japan that started their comp around about the same time have 3 full divisions and 58 teams in a country where baseball is the national sport.
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+x+x+x+xyou just couldnt help yourself could ya, only took you a few posts to deflect the issue on hand. do you wank over those images? deflect from what? That you're a complete stain on the game and you have nothing to contribute but the same hypocritical bullshit? Enjoy dancing on the grave if it makes you happier. touched a nerve i see. all i did was point out the obvious state of our game, the broken system, and how Volpato has every right to feel the way he does about australian football. i guess i will just blame all the 'nazis' for this new failure. Thanks for pointing out the absolute obvious.
I didn’t know you’d have such a hossy fit for calling him a twat. I’m sorry I upset you. you didn't upset me, he upset you.... :hehe:
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+x+x+x+xyes Enzo good points and that all they are....we're all still in the lowest of lows re NT them's the facts. The post 2005 qualified WC's were on the backs of the GG don't forget, what would it have been if not for them. What IF Cahill didn't kick on longer than CR7. We also hit lowest of lows through Ange's NT tenure. (AC was the high) $1B - the fairy godfather and look where we are. Nothing like judging a book by its cover. It was tuff being there, I agree with many posts some not - don't we all. We just don't have the cattle, that first 30seconds pretty much showed what was coming and we all knew in anycase. They are too quick, to sharp,purposeful,skilful,organsied. Should have been 3 @ HT. No matter who coachs all I see is a poison chalice till we have players that are capable and a good core in top flight comps. All this stems down to our systems/comps/and unity < that is all pretty average in this present day who were competing against at NT levels. The problem I have with saying that the GG was NSL-developed and therefore Lowy rode on their coat tails is that the 2002 generation was also NSL, as was the 1998, as was the 1994 and so on. None made it to the WC. Was the WC route tougher back then? Yes because it was H and A do or die. But 2006 was just as tough. In 2006 Lowy sacked Farina and appointed Guus. The win to qualify to the WC then allowed us to join Asia, and we went a different route. This gave us 3 more qualifications. None of that happens without Lowy. And I won't even get started on the high's of the A_league over the NSL. don't bother starting Enzo, your on the other end of the spectrum and yet here we are........ The game in absolute poop yet you keep following the front cover to this day. Pre 02 give it a break, amatuers/part timers had buckleys chance qualifying. A good % of the GG broke into Euro top flight football the pioneer Johnstone, prior none your mention is moot.. As for the rest of your post, no rocket science sacking a failing coach to qualify, $$$$$$ were at stake go figure. Again the rest of the qualis were on the last of the GG more so Cahill's clutch winners. None of it happens without the players ! there are plenty of Lowys in football but players maketh the Mountain. Sorry mate you couldn't be more wrong. The players were even better IMO in 1998 and 2002. Yet failed to qualify. Further there are no other Lowy's in Australian football. Who can you name in football that call up the PM on the phone and ask for a favour? Also EPL would not be the richest and most watched league in the world without its version of the "Lowy's". You might be traditionalist and say the game had more soul, back in the day but without their "Lowys", the EPL would have a handful of foreigners running around. Klopp, Guardiola, et al in Division 1- i'd like to see that. Don't get me started on the players, the best were going to Italy and La Liga. Like I said, we're at opposite ends glad to see you put IMO following.. Your mention of earlier I went back further generally speaking. My mention quoting there is plenty of Lowys in football, wasn't just talking here for as you followed on without those types Clubs don't become BIG clubs in some case's. Spare me, Lowy wouldn't be the only rich boy having their Pres/PM's ear be it here or another country. Big end of town enemies or not lend a ear and favour if/when asked. Money talks as you know. Don't get started for most differ to your POV IMO.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xTara is not happy with these fuckwits. Look at those red faced morons Good. Time for some serious questions to be answered. Not just off Arnold. How about we question how he ever ended up there? That that was our best option? How about we ask the question of the fact that he has the worst cattle to work with of any Socceroos manager in decades? And how about all this after a Frank Lowy-led revolution that included massive restructures that have yielded very little? How about the fact that some of the clubs in this country producing our best players within their own youth systems don’t even play top flight football? Or aren’t in a system in which they can work their way to the top? Harper is going on about investment. It’s not investment!! It’s the fucking structures that are the problem, and the attitudes of people within the system. Our A-League clubs are only just beginning to bring strong players through now, so things will improve. But we need dozens and dozens of clubs doing this. Not just our top 12 (realistically 5 or 6 of our “top 12”). Clubs like South Melbourne FC have produced dozens of players that have had world class careers in playing and coaching. Absolutely world class comment Tom. I agree 100% Hopefully this match was the final nail in the coffin of Frank Lowys attempt at destroying the game of football in Australia forever..... 1975-2004. NSL?whatever else it was called: WC's played: ZERO. Attendances: a bit above zero. Revenue: cevapi and souva's. Media interest: SBS (2% station rating, 0.02% football) 2005-2018: LOWY era. 4 World Cups. Asian Champions. Asian Champions League Champions. Confed Cup. Attendances: Peak at 60,000 for regular season game. 50,000 for grand finals. 14,000k average. Revenue circa $1 billion. Ratings: in 100,000's What did the Lowy's ever do for us? He also ruined our player development structures to the point where we calling up players that a) never been to a shores before and b) whom are 34 from other countries Look where its taken us eh? What happened under Lowy was not all bad that's for sure. BUT . Instead of introducing more teams and a second division and a pathway to a full pyramid when we were flying (circa 2012) they doubled down on their closed shop system. Remember 'fishing where the fish are'? Six year after the inception of the A-League, right? Would have killed the A-League by fracturing the fan base, issues with broadcast and owner licensing. Well we'll never know. Not doing anything has resulted in the shitshow we have now. Are you happy with a 12 team closed shop comp where the cost of entry is $15 million dollars for new aspirants? Meanwhile Japan that started their comp around about the same time have 3 full divisions and 58 teams in a country where baseball is the national sport. Am I happy. with the current 12 team closed shop model.. No. It should have been a 16 team closed shop by now. Japan has 6 times the population crammed in a fraction of the area. Football is number 2 sport behind baseball there. Football is number 4 or 5 here.
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+x+x+x+x+xyes Enzo good points and that all they are....we're all still in the lowest of lows re NT them's the facts. The post 2005 qualified WC's were on the backs of the GG don't forget, what would it have been if not for them. What IF Cahill didn't kick on longer than CR7. We also hit lowest of lows through Ange's NT tenure. (AC was the high) $1B - the fairy godfather and look where we are. Nothing like judging a book by its cover. It was tuff being there, I agree with many posts some not - don't we all. We just don't have the cattle, that first 30seconds pretty much showed what was coming and we all knew in anycase. They are too quick, to sharp,purposeful,skilful,organsied. Should have been 3 @ HT. No matter who coachs all I see is a poison chalice till we have players that are capable and a good core in top flight comps. All this stems down to our systems/comps/and unity < that is all pretty average in this present day who were competing against at NT levels. The problem I have with saying that the GG was NSL-developed and therefore Lowy rode on their coat tails is that the 2002 generation was also NSL, as was the 1998, as was the 1994 and so on. None made it to the WC. Was the WC route tougher back then? Yes because it was H and A do or die. But 2006 was just as tough. In 2006 Lowy sacked Farina and appointed Guus. The win to qualify to the WC then allowed us to join Asia, and we went a different route. This gave us 3 more qualifications. None of that happens without Lowy. And I won't even get started on the high's of the A_league over the NSL. don't bother starting Enzo, your on the other end of the spectrum and yet here we are........ The game in absolute poop yet you keep following the front cover to this day. Pre 02 give it a break, amatuers/part timers had buckleys chance qualifying. A good % of the GG broke into Euro top flight football the pioneer Johnstone, prior none your mention is moot.. As for the rest of your post, no rocket science sacking a failing coach to qualify, $$$$$$ were at stake go figure. Again the rest of the qualis were on the last of the GG more so Cahill's clutch winners. None of it happens without the players ! there are plenty of Lowys in football but players maketh the Mountain. Sorry mate you couldn't be more wrong. The players were even better IMO in 1998 and 2002. Yet failed to qualify. Further there are no other Lowy's in Australian football. Who can you name in football that call up the PM on the phone and ask for a favour? Also EPL would not be the richest and most watched league in the world without its version of the "Lowy's". You might be traditionalist and say the game had more soul, back in the day but without their "Lowys", the EPL would have a handful of foreigners running around. Klopp, Guardiola, et al in Division 1- i'd like to see that. Don't get me started on the players, the best were going to Italy and La Liga. Like I said, we're at opposite ends glad to see you put IMO following.. Your mention of earlier I went back further generally speaking. My mention quoting there is plenty of Lowys in football, wasn't just talking here for as you followed on without those types Clubs don't become BIG clubs in some case's. Spare me, Lowy wouldn't be the only rich boy having their Pres/PM's ear be it here or another country. Big end of town enemies or not lend a ear and favour if/when asked. Money talks as you know. Don't get started for most differ to your POV IMO. Yes there are plenty of rich billionaires. None want anything to do with the running of football here. If the A-League fails, we will be back to to semi-pro P and R People can disagree with my POV and please themselves. Its not compulsory to read what I write.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xTara is not happy with these fuckwits. Look at those red faced morons Good. Time for some serious questions to be answered. Not just off Arnold. How about we question how he ever ended up there? That that was our best option? How about we ask the question of the fact that he has the worst cattle to work with of any Socceroos manager in decades? And how about all this after a Frank Lowy-led revolution that included massive restructures that have yielded very little? How about the fact that some of the clubs in this country producing our best players within their own youth systems don’t even play top flight football? Or aren’t in a system in which they can work their way to the top? Harper is going on about investment. It’s not investment!! It’s the fucking structures that are the problem, and the attitudes of people within the system. Our A-League clubs are only just beginning to bring strong players through now, so things will improve. But we need dozens and dozens of clubs doing this. Not just our top 12 (realistically 5 or 6 of our “top 12”). Clubs like South Melbourne FC have produced dozens of players that have had world class careers in playing and coaching. Absolutely world class comment Tom. I agree 100% Hopefully this match was the final nail in the coffin of Frank Lowys attempt at destroying the game of football in Australia forever..... 1975-2004. NSL?whatever else it was called: WC's played: ZERO. Attendances: a bit above zero. Revenue: cevapi and souva's. Media interest: SBS (2% station rating, 0.02% football) 2005-2018: LOWY era. 4 World Cups. Asian Champions. Asian Champions League Champions. Confed Cup. Attendances: Peak at 60,000 for regular season game. 50,000 for grand finals. 14,000k average. Revenue circa $1 billion. Ratings: in 100,000's What did the Lowy's ever do for us? He also ruined our player development structures to the point where we calling up players that a) never been to a shores before and b) whom are 34 from other countries Look where its taken us eh? What happened under Lowy was not all bad that's for sure. BUT . Instead of introducing more teams and a second division and a pathway to a full pyramid when we were flying (circa 2012) they doubled down on their closed shop system. Remember 'fishing where the fish are'? Six year after the inception of the A-League, right? Would have killed the A-League by fracturing the fan base, issues with broadcast and owner licensing. Well we'll never know. Not doing anything has resulted in the shitshow we have now. Are you happy with a 12 team closed shop comp where the cost of entry is $15 million dollars for new aspirants? Meanwhile Japan that started their comp around about the same time have 3 full divisions and 58 teams in a country where baseball is the national sport. Am I happy. with the current 12 team closed shop model.. No. It should have been a 16 team closed shop by now. Japan has 6 times the population crammed in a fraction of the area. Football is number 2 sport behind baseball there. Football is number 4 or 5 here. More people play football here than any other sport.
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+x+x+x+x+x+xyes Enzo good points and that all they are....we're all still in the lowest of lows re NT them's the facts. The post 2005 qualified WC's were on the backs of the GG don't forget, what would it have been if not for them. What IF Cahill didn't kick on longer than CR7. We also hit lowest of lows through Ange's NT tenure. (AC was the high) $1B - the fairy godfather and look where we are. Nothing like judging a book by its cover. It was tuff being there, I agree with many posts some not - don't we all. We just don't have the cattle, that first 30seconds pretty much showed what was coming and we all knew in anycase. They are too quick, to sharp,purposeful,skilful,organsied. Should have been 3 @ HT. No matter who coachs all I see is a poison chalice till we have players that are capable and a good core in top flight comps. All this stems down to our systems/comps/and unity < that is all pretty average in this present day who were competing against at NT levels. The problem I have with saying that the GG was NSL-developed and therefore Lowy rode on their coat tails is that the 2002 generation was also NSL, as was the 1998, as was the 1994 and so on. None made it to the WC. Was the WC route tougher back then? Yes because it was H and A do or die. But 2006 was just as tough. In 2006 Lowy sacked Farina and appointed Guus. The win to qualify to the WC then allowed us to join Asia, and we went a different route. This gave us 3 more qualifications. None of that happens without Lowy. And I won't even get started on the high's of the A_league over the NSL. don't bother starting Enzo, your on the other end of the spectrum and yet here we are........ The game in absolute poop yet you keep following the front cover to this day. Pre 02 give it a break, amatuers/part timers had buckleys chance qualifying. A good % of the GG broke into Euro top flight football the pioneer Johnstone, prior none your mention is moot.. As for the rest of your post, no rocket science sacking a failing coach to qualify, $$$$$$ were at stake go figure. Again the rest of the qualis were on the last of the GG more so Cahill's clutch winners. None of it happens without the players ! there are plenty of Lowys in football but players maketh the Mountain. Sorry mate you couldn't be more wrong. The players were even better IMO in 1998 and 2002. Yet failed to qualify. Further there are no other Lowy's in Australian football. Who can you name in football that call up the PM on the phone and ask for a favour? Also EPL would not be the richest and most watched league in the world without its version of the "Lowy's". You might be traditionalist and say the game had more soul, back in the day but without their "Lowys", the EPL would have a handful of foreigners running around. Klopp, Guardiola, et al in Division 1- i'd like to see that. Don't get me started on the players, the best were going to Italy and La Liga. Like I said, we're at opposite ends glad to see you put IMO following.. Your mention of earlier I went back further generally speaking. My mention quoting there is plenty of Lowys in football, wasn't just talking here for as you followed on without those types Clubs don't become BIG clubs in some case's. Spare me, Lowy wouldn't be the only rich boy having their Pres/PM's ear be it here or another country. Big end of town enemies or not lend a ear and favour if/when asked. Money talks as you know. Don't get started for most differ to your POV IMO. If the A-League fails, we will be back to to semi-pro P and R We will be back to semi-pro but I'm not sure they'd keep P&R round long if even start it at all no matter what they say now. The semi-pro teams would get the keys and in short order explain that they just need a settling in period to get the structures right or risk it falling apart etc etc etc etc This is Australian football we are talking about here
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Meanwhile all the other codes are laughing at us
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xTara is not happy with these fuckwits. Look at those red faced morons Good. Time for some serious questions to be answered. Not just off Arnold. How about we question how he ever ended up there? That that was our best option? How about we ask the question of the fact that he has the worst cattle to work with of any Socceroos manager in decades? And how about all this after a Frank Lowy-led revolution that included massive restructures that have yielded very little? How about the fact that some of the clubs in this country producing our best players within their own youth systems don’t even play top flight football? Or aren’t in a system in which they can work their way to the top? Harper is going on about investment. It’s not investment!! It’s the fucking structures that are the problem, and the attitudes of people within the system. Our A-League clubs are only just beginning to bring strong players through now, so things will improve. But we need dozens and dozens of clubs doing this. Not just our top 12 (realistically 5 or 6 of our “top 12”). Clubs like South Melbourne FC have produced dozens of players that have had world class careers in playing and coaching. Absolutely world class comment Tom. I agree 100% Hopefully this match was the final nail in the coffin of Frank Lowys attempt at destroying the game of football in Australia forever..... 1975-2004. NSL?whatever else it was called: WC's played: ZERO. Attendances: a bit above zero. Revenue: cevapi and souva's. Media interest: SBS (2% station rating, 0.02% football) 2005-2018: LOWY era. 4 World Cups. Asian Champions. Asian Champions League Champions. Confed Cup. Attendances: Peak at 60,000 for regular season game. 50,000 for grand finals. 14,000k average. Revenue circa $1 billion. Ratings: in 100,000's What did the Lowy's ever do for us? He also ruined our player development structures to the point where we calling up players that a) never been to a shores before and b) whom are 34 from other countries Look where its taken us eh? What happened under Lowy was not all bad that's for sure. BUT . Instead of introducing more teams and a second division and a pathway to a full pyramid when we were flying (circa 2012) they doubled down on their closed shop system. Remember 'fishing where the fish are'? Six year after the inception of the A-League, right? Would have killed the A-League by fracturing the fan base, issues with broadcast and owner licensing. Well we'll never know. Not doing anything has resulted in the shitshow we have now. Are you happy with a 12 team closed shop comp where the cost of entry is $15 million dollars for new aspirants? Meanwhile Japan that started their comp around about the same time have 3 full divisions and 58 teams in a country where baseball is the national sport. Am I happy. with the current 12 team closed shop model.. No. It should have been a 16 team closed shop by now. Japan has 6 times the population crammed in a fraction of the area. Football is number 2 sport behind baseball there. Football is number 4 or 5 here. More people play football here than any other sport. More people play football here than live in the whole country of North Macedonia. Yet they still manage to have TWO national professional league divisions and a state based 3rd division all linked, players in decent European leagues and to top it off just knocked off Italy to give themselves a decent shout at a first WC berth ... all this from a country that didnt even exist 30 years ago!!! Amazing what you can achieve without being hamstrung by a billionaire that just wants to make money while entertaining his parasite mates in air conditioned corporate suites.. Id rather stand in the freezing rain on a concrete terrace than this garbage but .... yeah "entertainment" and "content" and "mainstream" ...goood farkin grief!!!!!!!
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+xMeanwhile all the other codes are laughing at us Who cares? That only bothers the APL and their bottom line mate.
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+x+x+x+x+xyou just couldnt help yourself could ya, only took you a few posts to deflect the issue on hand. do you wank over those images? deflect from what? That you're a complete stain on the game and you have nothing to contribute but the same hypocritical bullshit? Enjoy dancing on the grave if it makes you happier. touched a nerve i see. all i did was point out the obvious state of our game, the broken system, and how Volpato has every right to feel the way he does about australian football. i guess i will just blame all the 'nazis' for this new failure. Thanks for pointing out the absolute obvious.
I didn’t know you’d have such a hossy fit for calling him a twat. I’m sorry I upset you. you didn't upset me, he upset you.... :hehe: I dont even know who the little twat is, I just said he's a twat,
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+x+x+x+x+x+xTara is not happy with these fuckwits. Look at those red faced morons Good. Time for some serious questions to be answered. Not just off Arnold. How about we question how he ever ended up there? That that was our best option? How about we ask the question of the fact that he has the worst cattle to work with of any Socceroos manager in decades? And how about all this after a Frank Lowy-led revolution that included massive restructures that have yielded very little? How about the fact that some of the clubs in this country producing our best players within their own youth systems don’t even play top flight football? Or aren’t in a system in which they can work their way to the top? Harper is going on about investment. It’s not investment!! It’s the fucking structures that are the problem, and the attitudes of people within the system. Our A-League clubs are only just beginning to bring strong players through now, so things will improve. But we need dozens and dozens of clubs doing this. Not just our top 12 (realistically 5 or 6 of our “top 12”). Clubs like South Melbourne FC have produced dozens of players that have had world class careers in playing and coaching. Absolutely world class comment Tom. I agree 100% Hopefully this match was the final nail in the coffin of Frank Lowys attempt at destroying the game of football in Australia forever..... 1975-2004. NSL?whatever else it was called: WC's played: ZERO. Attendances: a bit above zero. Revenue: cevapi and souva's. Media interest: SBS (2% station rating, 0.02% football) 2005-2018: LOWY era. 4 World Cups. Asian Champions. Asian Champions League Champions. Confed Cup. Attendances: Peak at 60,000 for regular season game. 50,000 for grand finals. 14,000k average. Revenue circa $1 billion. Ratings: in 100,000's What did the Lowy's ever do for us? So where are the Lowys now exactly? They were ousted to allow more competent football people to run the game. The results have been remarkable. Ahahahahahaha
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+x+x+x+xTara is not happy with these fuckwits. Look at those red faced morons Good. Time for some serious questions to be answered. Not just off Arnold. How about we question how he ever ended up there? That that was our best option? How about we ask the question of the fact that he has the worst cattle to work with of any Socceroos manager in decades? And how about all this after a Frank Lowy-led revolution that included massive restructures that have yielded very little? How about the fact that some of the clubs in this country producing our best players within their own youth systems don’t even play top flight football? Or aren’t in a system in which they can work their way to the top? Harper is going on about investment. It’s not investment!! It’s the fucking structures that are the problem, and the attitudes of people within the system. Our A-League clubs are only just beginning to bring strong players through now, so things will improve. But we need dozens and dozens of clubs doing this. Not just our top 12 (realistically 5 or 6 of our “top 12”). Clubs like South Melbourne FC have produced dozens of players that have had world class careers in playing and coaching. Absolutely world class comment Tom. I agree 100% Hopefully this match was the final nail in the coffin of Frank Lowys attempt at destroying the game of football in Australia forever..... 1975-2004. NSL?whatever else it was called: WC's played: ZERO. Attendances: a bit above zero. Revenue: cevapi and souva's. Media interest: SBS (2% station rating, 0.02% football) 2005-2018: LOWY era. 4 World Cups. Asian Champions. Asian Champions League Champions. Confed Cup. Attendances: Peak at 60,000 for regular season game. 50,000 for grand finals. 14,000k average. Revenue circa $1 billion. Ratings: in 100,000's What did the Lowy's ever do for us? Got us into Asia so that we could continue to qualify for another few cycles whils ignoring the decline in the game. My earlier posts acknowledged the role that CFG have played. Their growth and success demonstrates that they know what they’re doing and overall, for youth development, it’s good for the game in this country. However, by denying some of our greatest ever clubs, that have produced some of the best footballers from this country over the past 50 years, which has underpinned national and continental success, is a travesty, and shows how broken the system is. We can have both: we can have CFG and South Melbourne FC in this country, in the top flight. They are worlds apart culturally speaking.
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You would think the sky is falling reading the comments in this thread.
In reality the game is in a healthy state in this country, look at the success of the Matildas and the participation of women and girls has never been higher
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+xYou would think the sky is falling reading the comments in this thread. In reality the game is in a healthy state in this country, look at the success of the Matildas and the participation of women and girls has never been higher Phew! What a relief. I must admit I was a little bit concerned there for a minute ...
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You would have to be delusional to think we wouldn’t have qualified for 94, 98 and 2001 through a 10 game qualifying format via Asia.
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+xYou would think the sky is falling reading the comments in this thread. In reality the game is in a healthy state in this country, look at the success of the Matildas and the participation of women and girls has never been higher The Matildas are worse now than they have been for a long time. Also the participation of women would be growing at a far lower rate than many countries we have to compete against.
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+xYou would have to be delusional to think we wouldn’t have qualified for 94, 98 and 2001 through a 10 game qualifying format via Asia. Just posted in national and international team thread. And nowadays. Top 4 would be incredibly tough not to mention Uzbekistan will rise again. Australia Japan South Korea Iran Saudi Arabia Qatar UAE Iraq Oman China I would hate the have the same format as Africa. It's horrible that just the group winners get in with just 6 games. It's ultra competitive there. AFC and CONCACAF have the most generous formats.
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+xYou would have to be delusional to think we wouldn’t have qualified for 94, 98 and 2001 through a 10 game qualifying format via Asia. Lost to Israel. Lost to Iran. Anyway, IT DIDN'T HAPPEN. Why didn't the NSL make the move to Asia? Because they couldn't. It took someone of Lowy's stature to make it happen.
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Enzo Bearzot
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+x+x+x+x+xTara is not happy with these fuckwits. Look at those red faced morons Good. Time for some serious questions to be answered. Not just off Arnold. How about we question how he ever ended up there? That that was our best option? How about we ask the question of the fact that he has the worst cattle to work with of any Socceroos manager in decades? And how about all this after a Frank Lowy-led revolution that included massive restructures that have yielded very little? How about the fact that some of the clubs in this country producing our best players within their own youth systems don’t even play top flight football? Or aren’t in a system in which they can work their way to the top? Harper is going on about investment. It’s not investment!! It’s the fucking structures that are the problem, and the attitudes of people within the system. Our A-League clubs are only just beginning to bring strong players through now, so things will improve. But we need dozens and dozens of clubs doing this. Not just our top 12 (realistically 5 or 6 of our “top 12”). Clubs like South Melbourne FC have produced dozens of players that have had world class careers in playing and coaching. Absolutely world class comment Tom. I agree 100% Hopefully this match was the final nail in the coffin of Frank Lowys attempt at destroying the game of football in Australia forever..... 1975-2004. NSL?whatever else it was called: WC's played: ZERO. Attendances: a bit above zero. Revenue: cevapi and souva's. Media interest: SBS (2% station rating, 0.02% football) 2005-2018: LOWY era. 4 World Cups. Asian Champions. Asian Champions League Champions. Confed Cup. Attendances: Peak at 60,000 for regular season game. 50,000 for grand finals. 14,000k average. Revenue circa $1 billion. Ratings: in 100,000's What did the Lowy's ever do for us? Got us into Asia so that we could continue to qualify for another few cycles whils ignoring the decline in the game. My earlier posts acknowledged the role that CFG have played. Their growth and success demonstrates that they know what they’re doing and overall, for youth development, it’s good for the game in this country. However, by denying some of our greatest ever clubs, that have produced some of the best footballers from this country over the past 50 years, which has underpinned national and continental success, is a travesty, and shows how broken the system is. We can have both: we can have CFG and South Melbourne FC in this country, in the top flight. They are worlds apart culturally speaking. Asia my friend is WITHOUT question the most significant thing to have ever happened to Australia football in the last 50 years. As a result we enjoyed 4 World Cups in 16 years as opposed to zero in 32. I don't know your age, but if you didn't endure those 32 years its easy to take for granted what you enjoyed in the next 16. As for youth development under Lowy the National Curriculum was drawn up. The fact that for much of its early years, those same clubs gave the NC their middle finger, or implemented in half arsed way, isn't Lowy's fault.
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Enzo Bearzot
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+x+xYou would think the sky is falling reading the comments in this thread. In reality the game is in a healthy state in this country, look at the success of the Matildas and the participation of women and girls has never been higher The Matildas are worse now than they have been for a long time. Also the participation of women would be growing at a far lower rate than many countries we have to compete against. That's not what matters. What matters is that Australian football is now more gender equitable. If you only knew.
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+xYou would think the sky is falling reading the comments in this thread. In reality the game is in a healthy state in this country, look at the success of the Matildas and the participation of women and girls has never been higher Meanwhile, in a universe far far away...
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Enzo Bearzot
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+x+x+x+x+xTara is not happy with these fuckwits. Look at those red faced morons Good. Time for some serious questions to be answered. Not just off Arnold. How about we question how he ever ended up there? That that was our best option? How about we ask the question of the fact that he has the worst cattle to work with of any Socceroos manager in decades? And how about all this after a Frank Lowy-led revolution that included massive restructures that have yielded very little? How about the fact that some of the clubs in this country producing our best players within their own youth systems don’t even play top flight football? Or aren’t in a system in which they can work their way to the top? Harper is going on about investment. It’s not investment!! It’s the fucking structures that are the problem, and the attitudes of people within the system. Our A-League clubs are only just beginning to bring strong players through now, so things will improve. But we need dozens and dozens of clubs doing this. Not just our top 12 (realistically 5 or 6 of our “top 12”). Clubs like South Melbourne FC have produced dozens of players that have had world class careers in playing and coaching. Absolutely world class comment Tom. I agree 100% Hopefully this match was the final nail in the coffin of Frank Lowys attempt at destroying the game of football in Australia forever..... 1975-2004. NSL?whatever else it was called: WC's played: ZERO. Attendances: a bit above zero. Revenue: cevapi and souva's. Media interest: SBS (2% station rating, 0.02% football) 2005-2018: LOWY era. 4 World Cups. Asian Champions. Asian Champions League Champions. Confed Cup. Attendances: Peak at 60,000 for regular season game. 50,000 for grand finals. 14,000k average. Revenue circa $1 billion. Ratings: in 100,000's What did the Lowy's ever do for us? Got us into Asia so that we could continue to qualify for another few cycles whils ignoring the decline in the game. My earlier posts acknowledged the role that CFG have played. Their growth and success demonstrates that they know what they’re doing and overall, for youth development, it’s good for the game in this country.However, by denying some of our greatest ever clubs, that have produced some of the best footballers from this country over the past 50 years, which has underpinned national and continental success, is a travesty, and shows how broken the system is. We can have both: we can have CFG and South Melbourne FC in this country, in the top flight. They are worlds apart culturally speaking. Most of their youth was identified by JVS, who has shown to be an excellent youth and talent identification coach-but mediocre senior coach. CFG have churned and burned through a lot of young talent along the way Tilio is the youth wunderkind de jour. Its forgotten that he was in fact behind Kolokovski in the pecking order. a year or so ago Kolokovski plays a blinder in the Grand Final and his reward is a bench warmer and a few minutes here and there behind an aging Leckie and perenially injured Nabbout. Choosing aging and declining names over youth is a pattern amongst many A-League clubs.
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+x+xYou would have to be delusional to think we wouldn’t have qualified for 94, 98 and 2001 through a 10 game qualifying format via Asia. Lost to Israel. Lost to Iran. Anyway, IT DIDN'T HAPPEN. Why didn't the NSL make the move to Asia? Because they couldn't. It took someone of Lowy's stature to make it happen. We never lost to Iran, Read what I wrote, I said over a 10 game qualifying campaign those teams always would have gone to world cups.
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+x+x+xYou would have to be delusional to think we wouldn’t have qualified for 94, 98 and 2001 through a 10 game qualifying format via Asia. Lost to Israel. Lost to Iran. Anyway, IT DIDN'T HAPPEN. Why didn't the NSL make the move to Asia? Because they couldn't. It took someone of Lowy's stature to make it happen. We never lost to Iran, Read what I wrote, I said over a 10 game qualifying campaign those teams always would have gone to world cups. In hindsight i dont reckon it would’ve been a given. let’s not forget our best ever team was humiliated at the Asian cup.
There’s no doubt it was our greatest team but a lot of them played like crap at times too. Add in the travel and club issues. Asia is close to the worlds least strong major region, but it’s still no easy some of these away trips.
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One year to the day. Was in London. How I felt after this vs today. Evidence enough I'll take a free WC hit any day for the experience and maybe to unearth something.
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