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mcjules - 21 Nov 2021 10:35 PM
roosty - 21 Nov 2021 8:49 PM

I think your post is reasonable apart from 2 things.
I'm not sure where you've gotten your 1 in 5000 risk? Latest TGA safety data puts it at 8.5 per 100,000 for males 12 to 17 which is more like 1 in 12,500 (and those numbers aren't necessarily directly caused by the vaccine, just that it happened after a vaccination).
https://www1.racgp.org.au/newsgp/clinical/tga-updates-post-covid-vaccine-myocarditis-rates

Secondly what evidence do you have that they're sweeping things under the carpet? The basis of almost all Johnsmith's rubbish in this post is that they're not hiding anything and reporting every death and every major side effect even when they haven't determined it was caused by the vaccine or not.


 
https://www.news-medical.net/news/20210913/The-rate-of-vaccine-induced-heart-inflammation-in-children.aspx

“In August 2021, the Federal Drug Administration identified a potential 1:5,000 risk of myocarditis developing in teenaged males. The CDC also reported an approximately 95% hospitalization rate for myocarditis-related adverse vaccine events.” If you compare the TGA data the rate is increasing with every report release, for example the latest report  has it at 8.5 per 100k,  compared to the previous report at 7.1, compared to the 28/10 report at 6.7.

My evidence is that there is the little public acknowledgment of the risks from the vaccines by government agencies, medical authorities and mainstream media. This is clearly a taboo subject as to publicly canvass risks of the vaccines will lead to accusations of being anti vax. Unfortunately our culture does not permit intelligent rational debate about vaccine efficacy and safety, its very much about forcing as much vaccine compliance as possible over and above individual concerns.

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You have to wonder which poster roosty is. 4 posts in and straight into the quagmire of vaccinate hesitancy.

Baffling.


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Munrubenmuz - 22 Nov 2021 8:33 AM
You have to wonder which poster roosty is. 4 posts in and straight into the quagmire of vaccinate hesitancy.

Baffling.

My initial thought was Rusty but he hasn't blamed lefties for myocarditis yet so probs not him.

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Munrubenmuz - 22 Nov 2021 8:33 AM

My initial thought was Rusty but he hasn't blamed lefties for myocarditis yet so probs not him.

You guys are such conspiracy theorists! 

He is a long time reader and felt the need to step in during this dire time!
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mcjules - 21 Nov 2021 10:35 PM
roosty - 21 Nov 2021 8:49 PM

I think your post is reasonable apart from 2 things.
I'm not sure where you've gotten your 1 in 5000 risk? Latest TGA safety data puts it at 8.5 per 100,000 for males 12 to 17 which is more like 1 in 12,500 (and those numbers aren't necessarily directly caused by the vaccine, just that it happened after a vaccination).
https://www1.racgp.org.au/newsgp/clinical/tga-updates-post-covid-vaccine-myocarditis-rates

Secondly what evidence do you have that they're sweeping things under the carpet? The basis of almost all Johnsmith's rubbish in this post is that they're not hiding anything and reporting every death and every major side effect even when they haven't determined it was caused by the vaccine or not.



roosty just got nuked

you have to wonder what the motivation is of these misinformation peddlers

there seems to be a strong correlation between white supremacy and vaccine conspiracy theories
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Munrubenmuz - 22 Nov 2021 8:33 AM
You have to wonder which poster roosty is. 4 posts in and straight into the quagmire of vaccinate hesitancy.

Baffling.

What’s baffling? The TGA withdrew the AZ vaccine for under 60s based on 1 in 100k risk of blood clots.  In some countries Moderna has been withdrawn for similar serious side effects. If those countries and authorities can engage in “vaccine hesitancy” why can’t individuals exercise similar judgement in regards to themselves and their children?
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cesspit - 22 Nov 2021 9:49 AM
mcjules - 21 Nov 2021 10:35 PM

roosty just got nuked

you have to wonder what the motivation is of these misinformation peddlers

there seems to be a strong correlation between white supremacy and vaccine conspiracy theories

Lol

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Dr Nick Coatsworthy joining the quagmire of vaccine hesitancy by recommending against mandatory vaccinations for young children. 😅
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roosty - 22 Nov 2021 8:51 PM
Dr Nick Coatsworthy joining the quagmire of vaccine hesitancy by recommending against mandatory vaccinations for young children. 😅

who?
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Have we got a death toll yet from the weekend’s matches? 
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tsf - 23 Nov 2021 12:58 PM
Have we got a death toll yet from the weekend’s matches? 

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another tinfoil conspiracy theory obliterated by facts
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cesspit - 23 Nov 2021 1:12 PM
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another tinfoil conspiracy theory obliterated by facts

You sound like the kind of tool who proudly wears a 'ive been vaccinted' t shirt.
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Sheffield United Star John Fleck Collapses on Pitch During Tuesday Match and Rushed to the Hospital – TV Live Feed Cut when Announcer Asks If He’s Had COVID Jab

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/11/sheffield-united-star-john-fleck-collapses-pitch-tuesday-match-rushed-hospital-tv-live-feed-cut-announcer-asks-covid-jab/


Livestream cuts when John Fleck´s vaccination status was questioned

https://brandnewtube.com/watch/livestream-cuts-when-john-fleck-s-collapsed-football-player-vaccination-status-was-questioned_3ewoQ9J65RaCtok.html



WHY ARE HEALTHY ATHLETES COLLAPSING?
https://www.bitchute.com/video/SbttVEGS3OiW/


And, for those of you who zero-questiongly follow the TGA, it is useful to see what the TGA says behind closed doors in Australian Senate Inquiry.

https://rumble.com/vj3pqp-secret-video-of-australian-senate-meeting-with-head-of-tga-brendan-murphy.html
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roosty - 24 Nov 2021 12:46 AM
cesspit - 23 Nov 2021 1:12 PM

You sound like the kind of tool who proudly wears a 'ive been vaccinted' t shirt.

Where do you buy those? Can I get one?


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roosty - 24 Nov 2021 12:46 AM
cesspit - 23 Nov 2021 1:12 PM

You sound like the kind of tool who proudly wears a 'ive been vaccinted' t shirt.

I know I'd be more popular than someone wearing an anti-vax t-shirt
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Munrubenmuz - 25 Nov 2021 12:14 PM
roosty - 24 Nov 2021 12:46 AM

Where do you buy those? Can I get one?

https://www.redbubble.com/shop/?query=i%27ve%20been%20vaccinated&ref=search_box

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Burztur - 25 Nov 2021 8:01 PM
Munrubenmuz - 25 Nov 2021 12:14 PM

https://www.redbubble.com/shop/?query=i%27ve%20been%20vaccinated&ref=search_box

just ordered for the whole family 
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Wigan striker Charlie Wyke becomes third footballer to collapse this week

Wyke was admitted to hospital after collapsing during training on Thursday



https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2021/11/25/wigan-striker-charlie-wyke-becomes-third-footballer-collapse/

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dirkvanadidas - 26 Nov 2021 4:34 AM

Wigan striker Charlie Wyke becomes third footballer to collapse this week

Wyke was admitted to hospital after collapsing during training on Thursday



https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2021/11/25/wigan-striker-charlie-wyke-becomes-third-footballer-collapse/

Aaaaaand he's not even vaccinated:

https://www.wigantoday.net/sport/football/wigan-athletic-striker-charlie-wyke-collapse-not-covid-vaccine-related-3472143

Once again, since you didn't hear me last time:

YOU ARE A JOKE!

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Aaaaaand he's not even vaccinated:

https://www.wigantoday.net/sport/football/wigan-athletic-striker-charlie-wyke-collapse-not-covid-vaccine-related-3472143

Once again, since you didn't hear me last time:

YOU ARE A JOKE!

It's a cover up, maaaaaaan
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hundreds of players have died on the pitch over time. Maybe it was the measle vaccines. 

Seriously, I am sick of treading the water with these anti-vaxxers. They're complete and utter spastics. 
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They need defibrillators like we fought so hard to get everywhere in NSW. 

https://footballnsw.com.au/protection-and-safety/first-aid-defibrillators/

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maybe Long Covid or an other but at least requires investigating offically otherwise i will have to get my boots back on

Europe is funding the war not Chelsea football club

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Of course the dramatic reports of footballers and sportspeople suffering heart attacks is a reflection of this happening in the general population.

For example, I just did a search of the TGA DAEN database, and limited it to Myocarditi disorders (heart):

https://apps.tga.gov.au/Prod/daen/daen-entry.aspx

Reports of Myocarditis arising from Covid vaccines, date range: 2021 -- 643 incidents, 3 deaths

Reports of Myocarditis arising from all other vaccines, date range: 1971-2021 -- 5 incidents, 1 death

I invite you to do the search yourself: https://apps.tga.gov.au/Prod/daen/daen-report.aspx

BUT, and here's the big factor. If you review the Covid discussion threads on these forums, it's like a portrait of how the general population feel about vaccines. See the ridicule that people are subjected to, who even suggest something is very wrong. That is why, in this video, doctors such as Dr. Aseem Malhotra face an uphill battle to just give out the data, because they face the hostility of the Masses, where anything that goes against the Mainstream is powerfully mocked and ridiculed as conspiracy.

https://youtu.be/gJ8t0qQ5R4I

and here, in case the above is eventually censored:

https://rumble.com/vourrz-dr-aseem-malhotra-cardilogolo-y-la-falsificacin-de-datos-en-los-ensayos-de-.html





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johnsmith - 27 Nov 2021 2:02 AM
Of course the dramatic reports of footballers and sportspeople suffering heart attacks is a reflection of this happening in the general population.

For example, I just did a search of the TGA DAEN database, and limited it to Myocarditi disorders (heart):

https://apps.tga.gov.au/Prod/daen/daen-entry.aspx

Reports of Myocarditis arising from Covid vaccines, date range: 2021 -- 643 incidents, 3 deaths

Reports of Myocarditis arising from all other vaccines, date range: 1971-2021 -- 5 incidents, 1 death

I invite you to do the search yourself: https://apps.tga.gov.au/Prod/daen/daen-report.aspx

BUT, and here's the big factor. If you review the Covid discussion threads on these forums, it's like a portrait of how the general population feel about vaccines. See the ridicule that people are subjected to, who even suggest something is very wrong. That is why, in this video, doctors such as Dr. Aseem Malhotra face an uphill battle to just give out the data, because they face the hostility of the Masses, where anything that goes against the Mainstream is powerfully mocked and ridiculed as conspiracy.

https://youtu.be/gJ8t0qQ5R4I

and here, in case the above is eventually censored:

https://rumble.com/vourrz-dr-aseem-malhotra-cardilogolo-y-la-falsificacin-de-datos-en-los-ensayos-de-.html





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johnsmith - 27 Nov 2021 2:02 AM

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How should you talk to friends and relatives who believe conspiracy theories?



https://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-55350794

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johnsmith - 27 Nov 2021 2:02 AM
. See the ridicule that people are subjected to,




That is because you're a complete imbecile putting everyone's safety at risk. 
And worse you think you know more about something that people have dedicated their life to, while you just google welovetrump.com

Seriously, you deserve all the ridicule you get and more tbh.
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tsf - 27 Nov 2021 2:09 PM
johnsmith - 27 Nov 2021 2:02 AM

That is because you're a complete imbecile putting everyone's safety at risk. 
And worse you think you know more about something that people have dedicated their life to, while you just google welovetrump.com

Seriously, you deserve all the ridicule you get and more tbh.

Rather than following the Cancel-Culture prevalent in our society, I am a man of science, and insist on dealing with emerging data, even if it contradicts earlier widely-held assumptions.

I am man enough to take whatever insults are thrown at me, because I need people to respond to data and evidence, not just mock and jeer.

Here is a journal article from the prestigious CIRCULATION journal, published 16 November 2021 by the American Heart Association.

https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/abs/10.1161/circ.144.suppl_1.10712

Abstract

"Our group has been using the PLUS Cardiac Test … The score has been measured every 3-6 months in our patient population for 8 years. Recently, with the advent of the mRNA COVID 19 vaccines (vac) by Moderna and Pfizer, dramatic changes in the PULS score became apparent in most patients. … These changes resulted in an increase of the PULS score from 11% 5 yr ACS risk to 25% 5 yr ACS risk. At the time of this report, these changes persist for at least 2.5 months post second dose of vac. We conclude that the mRNA vacs dramatically increase inflammation on the endothelium and T cell infiltration of cardiac muscle and may account for the observations of increased thrombosis, cardiomyopathy, and other vascular events following vaccination."


There comes a point where society will divine into two groups: those that refuse to question anything that the government doctors say, versus those that are willing to at least consider the contrary data.

My stance is not fixed. I consider all emerging data. Whereas I get the impression yours is anchored to whatever the government doctors say?




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But none mention come even close to the class and style of Nigel Mansell, when it comes to falls and collapses 😁😄

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johnsmith - 27 Nov 2021 4:38 PM
tsf - 27 Nov 2021 2:09 PM

Rather than following the Cancel-Culture prevalent in our society, I am a man of science, and insist on dealing with emerging data, even if it contradicts earlier widely-held assumptions.

I am man enough to take whatever insults are thrown at me, because I need people to respond to data and evidence, not just mock and jeer.

Here is a journal article from the prestigious CIRCULATION journal, published 16 November 2021 by the American Heart Association.

https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/abs/10.1161/circ.144.suppl_1.10712

Abstract

"Our group has been using the PLUS Cardiac Test … The score has been measured every 3-6 months in our patient population for 8 years. Recently, with the advent of the mRNA COVID 19 vaccines (vac) by Moderna and Pfizer, dramatic changes in the PULS score became apparent in most patients. … These changes resulted in an increase of the PULS score from 11% 5 yr ACS risk to 25% 5 yr ACS risk. At the time of this report, these changes persist for at least 2.5 months post second dose of vac. We conclude that the mRNA vacs dramatically increase inflammation on the endothelium and T cell infiltration of cardiac muscle and may account for the observations of increased thrombosis, cardiomyopathy, and other vascular events following vaccination."


There comes a point where society will divine into two groups: those that refuse to question anything that the government doctors say, versus those that are willing to at least consider the contrary data.

My stance is not fixed. I consider all emerging data. Whereas I get the impression yours is anchored to whatever the government doctors say?




first off the article is NOT peer reviewed

second I just did a quick google of the author and he is widely regarded as a discredited quack
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