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lucky we now have adults in the room at the Whitehouse instead of Putin's puppet.
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A Russian colleague (been here two years) who has never said anything political or against Putin is totally dismayed. Almost to the point of being distraught at work. In his opinion Putin is a mad man trying to bring back USSR. He said the problem is nobody gets any truth in Russia.
Also spoke to friends in Ukraine last night. They just left ipina where very heavy fighting.
They said everyone is surprised by how poor the Russian equipment is. They said they thought they had bad equipment but the Russian stuff was bad. The problem is there is a lot of money and soldiers for them to sacrifice.
I was sent some videos that are heartbreaking. Russian soldiers basically kids themselves that have been sacrificed by Putin and laying across a freeway in pierces. Cannon fodder. The Ukrainian people are victims but also some of these soldiers from the backwoods of Siberia don’t know what the hell is going on.
Utterly pointless. On a positive note the Ukrainians are very heartened by all the support they are receiving. But they do not expect this to be over soon.
I think they and smart Russians are hoping for Putin to meet his demise from the inner circle.
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The Russian soldiers have no interest to fight in this war. Apparently many weren't even sure they got sent in there in the first place. Ukraine on the other hand is fighting for its literal existence. Complete opposite in terms of will power to fight. Russia will need to commit hundreds of thousands to hold Ukraine as well. Even if they take Kyiv and other major cities, you can see insurgencies arising.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xRussia considers Ukraine its buffer zone between itself and its perceptions of NATO as an aggressive disruptive force. Russia needs to occupy Ukraine and it will. Problem is they won't stop there due to Putin's inherent ideological lunacy regarding what he considers to be "Russia" & "ethnic Russia". The prick is using any flimsy pretext for this invasion. Yep, and what happens when he occupies Ukraine and then says NATO is on his doorstep with Poland? He thinks he has a license to invade every country The old man and his cronies are still lamenting the 'good old days' of the Soviet Union. It's Hitler levels of delusional insanity and in fact that same paper thin justifications that he used to invade Poland, Austria & Czechslovakia at the time. The pro-Putin apologists not in Europe seem to forget that most of Europe hasn't forgotten Russia's idiocy and invasions from the old days. This idiot and his cronies need the rug yanked from under him. Did you watch this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeWG3yzigIE Many people have been acknowledging these issues for some time in the West. However, if this is his sole aim then he made a gross miscalculation. If he is the fox people make him out to be then surely he knew this. He will hasten the spread of NATO and as tfs keeps pointing out all this does is move the goalposts to the next neighbouring country. Who is next IF this is his rational? A full blown invasion solves none of these stated aims. This is his public cause de guerre. Not the full story behind it. How does it not solve his stated claim if they occupy the country and install a puppet regime like they have in Belarus? The aim I meant was creating a buffer and/or halting NATO expansion. This will only hasten NATO expansion and move the buffer. If even SWEDEN is getting in on increased military spending, sending Ukraine anti tank missiles and just in general taking a side then you know you have miscalculated. Ah. On Sweden like interventions I note even Switzerland has gotten involved which really is saying something. Did you read that article? Imagine your own parents saying you're lying about your city being blown up. The Russian propaganda machine in full force. Would be interesting to see if more images get out into Russia. Apparently Anonymous have hacked Russian Government sites and are streaming war footage on it.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xRussia considers Ukraine its buffer zone between itself and its perceptions of NATO as an aggressive disruptive force. Russia needs to occupy Ukraine and it will. Problem is they won't stop there due to Putin's inherent ideological lunacy regarding what he considers to be "Russia" & "ethnic Russia". The prick is using any flimsy pretext for this invasion. Yep, and what happens when he occupies Ukraine and then says NATO is on his doorstep with Poland? He thinks he has a license to invade every country The old man and his cronies are still lamenting the 'good old days' of the Soviet Union. It's Hitler levels of delusional insanity and in fact that same paper thin justifications that he used to invade Poland, Austria & Czechslovakia at the time. The pro-Putin apologists not in Europe seem to forget that most of Europe hasn't forgotten Russia's idiocy and invasions from the old days. This idiot and his cronies need the rug yanked from under him. Did you watch this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeWG3yzigIE Many people have been acknowledging these issues for some time in the West. However, if this is his sole aim then he made a gross miscalculation. If he is the fox people make him out to be then surely he knew this. He will hasten the spread of NATO and as tfs keeps pointing out all this does is move the goalposts to the next neighbouring country. Who is next IF this is his rational? A full blown invasion solves none of these stated aims. This is his public cause de guerre. Not the full story behind it. How does it not solve his stated claim if they occupy the country and install a puppet regime like they have in Belarus? The aim I meant was creating a buffer and/or halting NATO expansion. This will only hasten NATO expansion and move the buffer. If even SWEDEN is getting in on increased military spending, sending Ukraine anti tank missiles and just in general taking a side then you know you have miscalculated. Ah. On Sweden like interventions I note even Switzerland has gotten involved which really is saying something. Did you read that article? Imagine your own parents saying you're lying about your city being blown up. I saved the link to read later but yeah it's crazy hey
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Here's an interesting article. https://www.news.com.au/world/europe/russian-troops-say-theyre-desperate-to-quit-war-in-ukraine-on-calls-with-loved-ones/news-story/6aece923ef7351a6c505ebbc529e0aeaHe also claimed the Ukrainian government handing out tens of thousands of guns to its people had hampered the invasion led by Russian President Vladimir Putin. “Everyone here has an assault rifle. Everyone,” the soldier said.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+xRussia considers Ukraine its buffer zone between itself and its perceptions of NATO as an aggressive disruptive force. Russia needs to occupy Ukraine and it will. Problem is they won't stop there due to Putin's inherent ideological lunacy regarding what he considers to be "Russia" & "ethnic Russia". The prick is using any flimsy pretext for this invasion. Yep, and what happens when he occupies Ukraine and then says NATO is on his doorstep with Poland? He thinks he has a license to invade every country The old man and his cronies are still lamenting the 'good old days' of the Soviet Union. It's Hitler levels of delusional insanity and in fact that same paper thin justifications that he used to invade Poland, Austria & Czechslovakia at the time. The pro-Putin apologists not in Europe seem to forget that most of Europe hasn't forgotten Russia's idiocy and invasions from the old days. This idiot and his cronies need the rug yanked from under him. Did you watch this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeWG3yzigIE Many people have been acknowledging these issues for some time in the West. However, if this is his sole aim then he made a gross miscalculation. If he is the fox people make him out to be then surely he knew this. He will hasten the spread of NATO and as tfs keeps pointing out all this does is move the goalposts to the next neighbouring country. Who is next IF this is his rational? A full blown invasion solves none of these stated aims. This is his public cause de guerre. Not the full story behind it. How does it not solve his stated claim if they occupy the country and install a puppet regime like they have in Belarus? The aim I meant was creating a buffer and/or halting NATO expansion. This will only hasten NATO expansion and move the buffer. If even SWEDEN is getting in on increased military spending, sending Ukraine anti tank missiles and just in general taking a side then you know you have miscalculated. Ah. On Sweden like interventions I note even Switzerland has gotten involved which really is saying something. Did you read that article? Imagine your own parents saying you're lying about your city being blown up.
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+x+x+x+x+x+xRussia considers Ukraine its buffer zone between itself and its perceptions of NATO as an aggressive disruptive force. Russia needs to occupy Ukraine and it will. Problem is they won't stop there due to Putin's inherent ideological lunacy regarding what he considers to be "Russia" & "ethnic Russia". The prick is using any flimsy pretext for this invasion. Yep, and what happens when he occupies Ukraine and then says NATO is on his doorstep with Poland? He thinks he has a license to invade every country The old man and his cronies are still lamenting the 'good old days' of the Soviet Union. It's Hitler levels of delusional insanity and in fact that same paper thin justifications that he used to invade Poland, Austria & Czechslovakia at the time. The pro-Putin apologists not in Europe seem to forget that most of Europe hasn't forgotten Russia's idiocy and invasions from the old days. This idiot and his cronies need the rug yanked from under him. Did you watch this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeWG3yzigIE Many people have been acknowledging these issues for some time in the West. However, if this is his sole aim then he made a gross miscalculation. If he is the fox people make him out to be then surely he knew this. He will hasten the spread of NATO and as tfs keeps pointing out all this does is move the goalposts to the next neighbouring country. Who is next IF this is his rational? A full blown invasion solves none of these stated aims. This is his public cause de guerre. Not the full story behind it. How does it not solve his stated claim if they occupy the country and install a puppet regime like they have in Belarus? The aim I meant was creating a buffer and/or halting NATO expansion. This will only hasten NATO expansion and move the buffer. If even SWEDEN is getting in on increased military spending, sending Ukraine anti tank missiles and just in general taking a side then you know you have miscalculated.
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Same delusion that afflicted Americans with regards to Covid is happening in Russia with regards to Ukraine. Fake news!!! https://www.smh.com.au/world/europe/ukrainians-shocked-to-find-relatives-in-russia-don-t-believe-there-s-a-war-20220307-p5a2aj.html
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+x+x+x+x+x+xRussia considers Ukraine its buffer zone between itself and its perceptions of NATO as an aggressive disruptive force. Russia needs to occupy Ukraine and it will. Problem is they won't stop there due to Putin's inherent ideological lunacy regarding what he considers to be "Russia" & "ethnic Russia". The prick is using any flimsy pretext for this invasion. Yep, and what happens when he occupies Ukraine and then says NATO is on his doorstep with Poland? He thinks he has a license to invade every country The old man and his cronies are still lamenting the 'good old days' of the Soviet Union. It's Hitler levels of delusional insanity and in fact that same paper thin justifications that he used to invade Poland, Austria & Czechslovakia at the time. The pro-Putin apologists not in Europe seem to forget that most of Europe hasn't forgotten Russia's idiocy and invasions from the old days. This idiot and his cronies need the rug yanked from under him. Did you watch this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeWG3yzigIE Many people have been acknowledging these issues for some time in the West. However, if this is his sole aim then he made a gross miscalculation. If he is the fox people make him out to be then surely he knew this. He will hasten the spread of NATO and as tfs keeps pointing out all this does is move the goalposts to the next neighbouring country. Who is next IF this is his rational? A full blown invasion solves none of these stated aims. This is his public cause de guerre. Not the full story behind it. How does it not solve his stated claim if they occupy the country and install a puppet regime like they have in Belarus? I'm not agreeing with any of it but that is his rationale and, I hate to say it, he does have a point. None of this justifies an invasion but this isn't some random event. The thing is, no puppet regime will be supported on the ground or internationally. Russia simply doesn't have the money or firepower to maintain it.
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Burztur
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+x+xRussia considers Ukraine its buffer zone between itself and its perceptions of NATO as an aggressive disruptive force. Russia needs to occupy Ukraine and it will. Problem is they won't stop there due to Putin's inherent ideological lunacy regarding what he considers to be "Russia" & "ethnic Russia". The prick is using any flimsy pretext for this invasion. The irony is massive swaths of the country are not areas that are remotely "ethnic russian". Just look at the territorial boundaries of the Russian empire 200 years ago. People talk about China being an ally but it's nothing more than a marriage of convenience. With Russia's ageing and shrinking population and global warming, they will be looking at Siberia and the East of the country very keenly in the not too distant future. I can't see China being too pleased with any of this. Firstly, it's bad for business, and Secondly, they would liken China to Ukraine and the US to Russia (imagine the US recognising Taiwan/Tibet and then liberating those areas like Donetsk and Luhansk).
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Burztur
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+xRussia considers Ukraine its buffer zone between itself and its perceptions of NATO as an aggressive disruptive force. Russia needs to occupy Ukraine and it will. Problem is they won't stop there due to Putin's inherent ideological lunacy regarding what he considers to be "Russia" & "ethnic Russia". The prick is using any flimsy pretext for this invasion. Well, didn't he also say that Ukraine is a fiction created by Lenin and is really part of Russia? So next stop, we need another buffer state in Poland, etc, etc. End of the day, he can say anything to justify his invasion (and will). Appreciate that NATO expansion has cause major concerns for Russia, but that doesn't justify an invasion.
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+x+x+x+x+xRussia considers Ukraine its buffer zone between itself and its perceptions of NATO as an aggressive disruptive force. Russia needs to occupy Ukraine and it will. Problem is they won't stop there due to Putin's inherent ideological lunacy regarding what he considers to be "Russia" & "ethnic Russia". The prick is using any flimsy pretext for this invasion. Yep, and what happens when he occupies Ukraine and then says NATO is on his doorstep with Poland? He thinks he has a license to invade every country The old man and his cronies are still lamenting the 'good old days' of the Soviet Union. It's Hitler levels of delusional insanity and in fact that same paper thin justifications that he used to invade Poland, Austria & Czechslovakia at the time. The pro-Putin apologists not in Europe seem to forget that most of Europe hasn't forgotten Russia's idiocy and invasions from the old days. This idiot and his cronies need the rug yanked from under him. Did you watch this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeWG3yzigIE Many people have been acknowledging these issues for some time in the West. However, if this is his sole aim then he made a gross miscalculation. If he is the fox people make him out to be then surely he knew this. He will hasten the spread of NATO and as tfs keeps pointing out all this does is move the goalposts to the next neighbouring country. Who is next IF this is his rational? A full blown invasion solves none of these stated aims. This is his public cause de guerre. Not the full story behind it. How does it not solve his stated claim if they occupy the country and install a puppet regime like they have in Belarus? I'm not agreeing with any of it but that is his rationale and, I hate to say it, he does have a point. None of this justifies an invasion but this isn't some random event.
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Poland will be next
if we don't fight them over there, we'll be fighting them over here.
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+x+x+x+xRussia considers Ukraine its buffer zone between itself and its perceptions of NATO as an aggressive disruptive force. Russia needs to occupy Ukraine and it will. Problem is they won't stop there due to Putin's inherent ideological lunacy regarding what he considers to be "Russia" & "ethnic Russia". The prick is using any flimsy pretext for this invasion. Yep, and what happens when he occupies Ukraine and then says NATO is on his doorstep with Poland? He thinks he has a license to invade every country The old man and his cronies are still lamenting the 'good old days' of the Soviet Union. It's Hitler levels of delusional insanity and in fact that same paper thin justifications that he used to invade Poland, Austria & Czechslovakia at the time. The pro-Putin apologists not in Europe seem to forget that most of Europe hasn't forgotten Russia's idiocy and invasions from the old days. This idiot and his cronies need the rug yanked from under him. Did you watch this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeWG3yzigIE Many people have been acknowledging these issues for some time in the West. However, if this is his sole aim then he made a gross miscalculation. If he is the fox people make him out to be then surely he knew this. He will hasten the spread of NATO and as tfs keeps pointing out all this does is move the goalposts to the next neighbouring country. Who is next IF this is his rational? A full blown invasion solves none of these stated aims. This is his public cause de guerre. Not the full story behind it.
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+x+x+x+xRussia considers Ukraine its buffer zone between itself and its perceptions of NATO as an aggressive disruptive force. Russia needs to occupy Ukraine and it will. Problem is they won't stop there due to Putin's inherent ideological lunacy regarding what he considers to be "Russia" & "ethnic Russia". The prick is using any flimsy pretext for this invasion. Yep, and what happens when he occupies Ukraine and then says NATO is on his doorstep with Poland? He thinks he has a license to invade every country The old man and his cronies are still lamenting the 'good old days' of the Soviet Union. It's Hitler levels of delusional insanity and in fact that same paper thin justifications that he used to invade Poland, Austria & Czechslovakia at the time. The pro-Putin apologists not in Europe seem to forget that most of Europe hasn't forgotten Russia's idiocy and invasions from the old days. This idiot and his cronies need the rug yanked from under him. Did you watch this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeWG3yzigIE why are you posting the incoherent ramblings of a mad man here?
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+x+x+xRussia considers Ukraine its buffer zone between itself and its perceptions of NATO as an aggressive disruptive force. Russia needs to occupy Ukraine and it will. Problem is they won't stop there due to Putin's inherent ideological lunacy regarding what he considers to be "Russia" & "ethnic Russia". The prick is using any flimsy pretext for this invasion. Yep, and what happens when he occupies Ukraine and then says NATO is on his doorstep with Poland? He thinks he has a license to invade every country The old man and his cronies are still lamenting the 'good old days' of the Soviet Union. It's Hitler levels of delusional insanity and in fact that same paper thin justifications that he used to invade Poland, Austria & Czechslovakia at the time. The pro-Putin apologists not in Europe seem to forget that most of Europe hasn't forgotten Russia's idiocy and invasions from the old days. This idiot and his cronies need the rug yanked from under him. Did you watch this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeWG3yzigIE
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+x+xRussia considers Ukraine its buffer zone between itself and its perceptions of NATO as an aggressive disruptive force. Russia needs to occupy Ukraine and it will. Problem is they won't stop there due to Putin's inherent ideological lunacy regarding what he considers to be "Russia" & "ethnic Russia". The prick is using any flimsy pretext for this invasion. Yep, and what happens when he occupies Ukraine and then says NATO is on his doorstep with Poland? He thinks he has a license to invade every country The old man and his cronies are still lamenting the 'good old days' of the Soviet Union. It's Hitler levels of delusional insanity and in fact that same paper thin justifications that he used to invade Poland, Austria & Czechslovakia at the time. The pro-Putin apologists not in Europe seem to forget that most of Europe hasn't forgotten Russia's idiocy and invasions from the old days. This idiot and his cronies need the rug yanked from under him.
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+xZelensky is the hero we all need right now. Seems like a genuine guy. Doesn't seem like he's Loopy at all does he?
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Zelensky is the hero we all need right now. Seems like a genuine guy.
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+xRussia considers Ukraine its buffer zone between itself and its perceptions of NATO as an aggressive disruptive force. Russia needs to occupy Ukraine and it will. Problem is they won't stop there due to Putin's inherent ideological lunacy regarding what he considers to be "Russia" & "ethnic Russia". The prick is using any flimsy pretext for this invasion. The irony is massive swaths of the country are not areas that are remotely "ethnic russian". Just look at the territorial boundaries of the Russian empire 200 years ago. People talk about China being an ally but it's nothing more than a marriage of convenience. With Russia's ageing and shrinking population and global warming, they will be looking at Siberia and the East of the country very keenly in the not too distant future.
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+xRussia considers Ukraine its buffer zone between itself and its perceptions of NATO as an aggressive disruptive force. Russia needs to occupy Ukraine and it will. Problem is they won't stop there due to Putin's inherent ideological lunacy regarding what he considers to be "Russia" & "ethnic Russia". The prick is using any flimsy pretext for this invasion. Yep, and what happens when he occupies Ukraine and then says NATO is on his doorstep with Poland? He thinks he has a license to invade every country
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Russia considers Ukraine its buffer zone between itself and its perceptions of NATO as an aggressive disruptive force.
Russia needs to occupy Ukraine and it will. Problem is they won't stop there due to Putin's inherent ideological lunacy regarding what he considers to be "Russia" & "ethnic Russia". The prick is using any flimsy pretext for this invasion.
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Enzo and Rusty have gone very quiet
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Russian shooting reporters now in Ukraine.
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+xanti-vaxers/Trumpkins/white nationalists etc would be lost without russian anti-vax bots continually reinforcing their froot loop views You'd know all about being Loopy.
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anti-vaxers/Trumpkins/white nationalists etc would be lost without russian anti-vax bots continually reinforcing their froot loop views
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Amazing all these free speech warriors supporting Putin...a guy who has now blocked facebook, restricted twitter and is about to put in a law that jails anyone reporting what he says is 'fake news'.
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Putin is arresting antiwar protesters. :(
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