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+xHow cool and calm were our penalty takers!!! So professional Mooy, Hrustic, Mabil, JMAC, Goodwin - Boyle shot on target at least! No shots wide or iver bar like 2005. Brilliant stuff. Well done to grey wiggle too 👊👏🎯 Yes indeed, well taken pens. No luck, just good preparation and execution.
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CanberraHarry
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+x+xit suited Australia and Arnie's tactics knowing that they didn't have to play football to win when there is extra time and penalties available We weren't the team playing for penalties for most of the game mate Give me a break. We were the better team on the day in a cagey game. We were better than Peru full stop. It's amazing the lengths people will go to in order to justify their cultural cringe Agree that Peru was time wasting not Australia. No comment on the cultural cringe aspect.
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I'm pretty stunned in a good way. Gotta give credit to Arnold for his planning.
Say what you want about Redmayne (I don’t think he should have been in the squad), but what he did this morning, as well as his antics, will place him forever in Australian sporting folklore.
I’ll be in the minority here by saying we are in a group we can get out of. Tunisia is beatable and we probably should have beaten Denmark in 2018.
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+x+xI’m not a big Arnie fan but … 2005. The golden generation under Hiddink qualified for the WC by beating the 5th best South American side on penalties. 2022. A team of nobodies under Arnold qualifies for the WC by beating the 5th best South American side on penalties. Just saying. What one has to recognise is that the current team is a better team unit, than the individuals who comprise that team. They have been coached in a system. Hence, when they play senior football for Australia, they have been playing that system all through their development years. This helps team cohesion. Australia has been well-coached, but has had little time in camps, like some of the Asian opposition who mainly play in their domestic leagues. The Socceroos have improved in camp over four successive weeks and three successive games. except for Wright, karacic, Hrustic, Boyle, Sutar, and Mooy who did not come through the Australian National Curriculum system in their development years. and there are probably more like Jmac that had some national curriculum and some some overseas. It is only really the ollyroos players that would have come entirely through the National curriculum from start to finish as the first couple of years was a shitshow. and was only properly integrated by 2010. hopefully though it will pay dividends. I definitely think, as you say, it helps to build cohesion and get them playing better than the individual components, but at the moment it is telling that the system has yet to be able to produce good attacking players.
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Is there going to be new WC kits?
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+x+x+xit suited Australia and Arnie's tactics knowing that they didn't have to play football to win when there is extra time and penalties available We weren't the team playing for penalties for most of the game mate Give me a break. We were the better team on the day in a cagey game. We were better than Peru full stop. It's amazing the lengths people will go to in order to justify their cultural cringe Exactly.. as I say on this site ALL the time, we must be the only group of supporters in world football that talk their players DOWN! We have an inferiority complex, ange used to mention it when he started coaching us and it's even more ture today. The current team we have is nowhere near as bad as ppl make out infact many would get games in that 06 team. All of hrustic, rogic, mooy, Ryan, Souttar, Boyle, sainsbury and Irvine would have made that squad. And conversely as I said earlier before the match that peru team was not very good at all infact on paper we had a stronger lineup than them, albeit just. With rogic, souttar, sains and Taggart fit I think we'd have beaten them in normal time. Unfortunately most of our fans are ignorant and assumptive ... "oh peru finished 5th in south America, oh they must be better than us" without even looking at the fucking team sheet. Their best player is a 32 yr old Italian playing in serie b, 4 of their players play MLS and 2 in Sweden. I didn't see anyone in their side coming off a europa league final. Time to drop the inferiorty complex guys.. after all, this same group of players had a world record just 1 yr ago. I think a lot of the inferiority complex comes from where the current crop of players are playing each week. If the above-mentioned players were performing consistently in the Big 5 leagues, then the expectations for this team would be a lot higher as they were back in 2006. Regarding Peru, they spanked us 4 years ago, but times have changed.
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+xIs there going to be new WC kits? Considering there are new Nike kits for the European teams (and apparently a centenary kit for us), I’d assume so. Or at least a new away kit (which would be said centenary kit)
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Let's not forget Maty Ryan who graciously stood aside for Redmayne though it would have been Arnie's call.Ryan has been our most consistent player throughout the campaign and is a real team player.Also great to see the photo of Vukovic hugging Redmayne at the end-there is real spirit and passion in this team.
Kudos to Aaron Mooy for playing the whole game and to Andrew Clarke for the fitness program he put him through,
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Who would be your top 5 Socceroos from across the UAE and Peru games? In no particular order, I would say our best were Rowles, Irvine, Mooy, Hrustic and Boyle. Behich and Wright pretty close to the conversation too.
Hard to put them in order, but I'd probably say:
1 Boyle
2 Mooy
3 Rowles
4 Hrustic
5 Irvine
Your top 5?
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+x+xIs there going to be new WC kits? Considering there are new Nike kits for the European teams (and apparently a centenary kit for us), I’d assume so. Or at least a new away kit (which would be said centenary kit) Garentteed money spinner.
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Like the waltzes, some sunsets and this roof that, like today, dawns painfully gray, Peru will sleep today with sadness. Peru and the national team , that group of soccer players who, until this Monday, had given the country the best afternoons in recent years. A World Cup, a Copa América final, a playoff fairly achieved. The only possibility of a hug, an exercise that is not customary. Hug each other to celebrate a goal, one of the many that happened in these 7 years of Gareca management and now, this June afternoon that will never end, hug each other to cure the sorrow.Peru was eliminated from the Qatar 2022 World Cup. It was a possibility. But not in this way, so last minute, so dramatic, with so much in favor. And it was lost, of course, before a rival who offered a fight, the same resistance that one imagined in the previous one: toughness, practicality and cold blood. Australia had in Aaron Mooi of the Shanghai Port of the Chinese Super League, the best footballer of the match. A man who controlled the middle and made them play slowly. Certainly. The Yotun of him. Terrible first time. Absolutely contrary to what one imagines of the Peruvian game, the stamp that is talked about in the world: it cost him the exit with Tapia, hidden among the Australian trees, Gonzales and Peña always received from behind and the ghost of Yotún, absent due to injury , he suffered in the middle of so much that he was missed. That was not Peru, at least the Peru of the last leg of the Qualifiers, before Australia. The team of fears had returned, without depth on the sides -Carrillo came only once from the right- and without options for a 9 -Lapadula- who spent 45 minutes watching the ball go by. To our midfield, so slow and imprecise, dedicated to the brand but empty of ideas and without a pass, perhaps the only national problem that matters to us soccer fans was added: what happens to Cueva when he is only Christian? Thrown to the left at the start, leaning to the right at some point in the complement, but always at the wrong time and in second, never in fifth, Cueva was never able to find his best version and from there, this fact is also explained: at 98 minutes of the game Peru's first serious auction fell. The departure of him -cramped- ended with the ace that technicians like Gareca -administrator of poverty who gives him the local tournament- have. Without him, the miracle is difficult. On penalties, again, terrible ours. We had the chance to win the shootout with Boyle's missed penalty but Advíncula missed and Valera missed, Chiclayo's number 9, whose promising career should not be tarnished by what happened this afternoon. He is going to be a crack outside, he is going to earn a lot of money and he will have revenge. If anyone knows about falling and getting up, it's him. He is Peruvian, that is, a survivor. Meanwhile, there is now an impossible mission for everyone: try to win back the hearts of the children, so happy dressed as Peruvians this afternoon, who today just learned that we -although it seemed impossible- are also losing.
Translated article from Peru perspective
https://elcomercio.pe/deporte-total/seleccion/la-seleccion-peruana-y-el-dia-mas-triste-del-mundo-christian-cueva-ricardo-gareca-peru-vs-australia-repechaje-al-mundial-qatar-2022-noticia/
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+xWho would be your top 5 Socceroos from across the UAE and Peru games? In no particular order, I would say our best were Rowles, Irvine, Mooy, Hrustic and Boyle. Behich and Wright pretty close to the conversation too. Hard to put them in order, but I'd probably say: 1 Boyle 2 Mooy 3 Rowles 4 Hrustic 5 Irvine Your top 5? got to say I'm so glad Mooy stood up these last 2 games when we really needed this from him. Bugger all match fitness prior a testiment to his "nouse" of the game for starters and his calm on the ball. Many of us have been quite disheartenned of him the last couple of years but he paid us back 3fold these last 2 games. I've been a Boyle fan since he came in ring in or not lol, his go forward and ticker is great to see. Irvine, what he lacks in natural technique he makes it up with his ticker and work rate, every team needs a soldier. Hrustic sure has come of age the last 2games, I was at the Japan game here and thought is there more ? well that Europa win sure has lifted his confidence more so for us. Behich has made up those last 2games alot for prior I was over him piss him off, solid and played what we needed, maybe that Japan game getting owned woke him back up when/if he got another chance.
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+xI just hope that they don't get exposed [too much] in their group... ⚠ Doesn’t matter. Most important thing is FA will get paid making it and we need the $$$$… bad.
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+x+xIt'll either be: Peru absolutely maul us and some very smug types will say 'told you so.' We lose and were never really in it and the word 'dominated' gets thrown around. We just lose and the reaction is time for changes. We go to penalties and lose in heartbreak. We win on penalties and feel the escape. We win narrowly then get told we have zero chance at the WC and it's undeserved. By some miracle we batter them and the deafening silence will linger for a week amongst jubilation. Interesting to revisit your predictions and the responses, John. No one saying we'll get smashed yet. Just enjoying it.
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+xWho would be your top 5 Socceroos from across the UAE and Peru games? In no particular order, I would say our best were Rowles, Irvine, Mooy, Hrustic and Boyle. Behich and Wright pretty close to the conversation too. Hard to put them in order, but I'd probably say: 1 Boyle 2 Mooy 3 Rowles 4 Hrustic 5 Irvine Your top 5? That's the list I think.
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That Peru article is damning. We sliced past Yotun a lot as well in 2018 but his experience would've been valuable. Pena was very poor.
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+xWho would be your top 5 Socceroos from across the UAE and Peru games? In no particular order, I would say our best were Rowles, Irvine, Mooy, Hrustic and Boyle. Behich and Wright pretty close to the conversation too. Hard to put them in order, but I'd probably say: 1 Boyle 2 Mooy 3 Rowles 4 Hrustic 5 Irvine Your top 5? Great list. For me, Mooy above Boyle. Especially against Peru, he controlled the entire game. Whenever, players were unable to keep possession, he would calmly bring the ball under control and always find the right pass. Made the defence also feel more confident. Of course, the entire squad over the last three games has been pretty positive. GA has to quickly integrate few youngsters to add perhaps some pace, going in to the WC.
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Mooy was at his beastly best. Behich had his strongest match in ages. Atkinson shaky, especially in the first half, but did well considering he was on a yellow for so long. Good impact from Mabil. Defence really strong. I guess the worry is our central strikers never really got in the game.
Peru were definitely no great shakes. I thought there were a handful of times where they showed they had an extra gear to go up (Advincula's speed was a worry) but it didn't last long at all. Credit to the team and coaching staff.
Re. The Redmayne sub, I said to my mate, it was really win-win for Arnie. People tend to think of the players who miss than the keepers who are beaten. We'll never know if Ryan would have performed just as well. Doesn't matter. Good on the grey wiggle.
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Top 5
Mooy - great to see him take the sting out of their attacks and give our boys time to sort themselves out.
Hrustic - legend at 24.
Boyle - only forward with any penetration
Rowles - Shows how playing lots of games in the A League at a young age gives a player a solid base for a great career
Ryan - stood tall against UAE and took one for the team this game
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+xMooy was at his beastly best. Behich had his strongest match in ages. Atkinson shaky, especially in the first half, but did well considering he was on a yellow for so long. Good impact from Mabil. Defence really strong. I guess the worry is our central strikers never really got in the game. Peru were definitely no great shakes. I thought there were a handful of times where they showed they had an extra gear to go up (Advincula's speed was a worry) but it didn't last long at all. Credit to the team and coaching staff. Re. The Redmayne sub, I said to my mate, it was really win-win for Arnie. People tend to think of the players who miss than the keepers who are beaten. We'll never know if Ryan would have performed just as well. Doesn't matter. Good on the grey wiggle. I think Atkinson is getting a lot of flak, but he was up against more difficult situations than Behich and he took care of them pretty well. Not to take anything away from Behich's performance.
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+x+x+xI’m not a big Arnie fan but … 2005. The golden generation under Hiddink qualified for the WC by beating the 5th best South American side on penalties. 2022. A team of nobodies under Arnold qualifies for the WC by beating the 5th best South American side on penalties. Just saying. What one has to recognise is that the current team is a better team unit, than the individuals who comprise that team. They have been coached in a system. Hence, when they play senior football for Australia, they have been playing that system all through their development years. This helps team cohesion. Australia has been well-coached, but has had little time in camps, like some of the Asian opposition who mainly play in their domestic leagues. The Socceroos have improved in camp over four successive weeks and three successive games. except for Wright, karacic, Hrustic, Boyle, Sutar, and Mooy who did not come through the Australian National Curriculum system in their development years. and there are probably more like Jmac that had some national curriculum and some some overseas. It is only really the ollyroos players that would have come entirely through the National curriculum from start to finish as the first couple of years was a shitshow. and was only properly integrated by 2010. hopefully though it will pay dividends. I definitely think, as you say, it helps to build cohesion and get them playing better than the individual components, but at the moment it is telling that the system has yet to be able to produce good attacking players. In the 2014 WC even Brazil and English FA lauded the Aus team, playing as well as we did , devoid of stars. The English FA thought it was because even then, the system of underage national team football leading to senior international football helped us. Stan Collymore, claimed English players had so many different systems at club level, and often didn't respond to underage cap offerings, that when they turned out for national teams, players were confused about such a diversity of game plans.
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These photos of the celebrations. Just amazing viewing. After UAE they kept saying 'one more' and they did it one more.
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+x+xMooy was at his beastly best. Behich had his strongest match in ages. Atkinson shaky, especially in the first half, but did well considering he was on a yellow for so long. Good impact from Mabil. Defence really strong. I guess the worry is our central strikers never really got in the game. Peru were definitely no great shakes. I thought there were a handful of times where they showed they had an extra gear to go up (Advincula's speed was a worry) but it didn't last long at all. Credit to the team and coaching staff. Re. The Redmayne sub, I said to my mate, it was really win-win for Arnie. People tend to think of the players who miss than the keepers who are beaten. We'll never know if Ryan would have performed just as well. Doesn't matter. Good on the grey wiggle. I think Atkinson is getting a lot of flak, but he was up against more difficult situations than Behich and he took care of them pretty well. Not to take anything away from Behich's performance. You might be right. In any case, looked more comfortable this match. Behich was excellent, also Boyle. Mooy good enough to go to Serie A next season, if he chose to and was able to get release. Rowles near faultless.
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+x+x+xMooy was at his beastly best. Behich had his strongest match in ages. Atkinson shaky, especially in the first half, but did well considering he was on a yellow for so long. Good impact from Mabil. Defence really strong. I guess the worry is our central strikers never really got in the game. Peru were definitely no great shakes. I thought there were a handful of times where they showed they had an extra gear to go up (Advincula's speed was a worry) but it didn't last long at all. Credit to the team and coaching staff. Re. The Redmayne sub, I said to my mate, it was really win-win for Arnie. People tend to think of the players who miss than the keepers who are beaten. We'll never know if Ryan would have performed just as well. Doesn't matter. Good on the grey wiggle. I think Atkinson is getting a lot of flak, but he was up against more difficult situations than Behich and he took care of them pretty well. Not to take anything away from Behich's performance. You might be right. In any case, looked more comfortable this match. Behich was excellent, also Boyle. Mooy good enough to go to Serie A next season, if he chose to and was able to get release. Rowles near faultless. yeah he was marking some dangerous players and I thought did alright. Seems to be improving rapidly
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rumour is Redmayne found instructions on the peruvian gks water bottle and threw it into the crowd
can anyone confirm?
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+xrumour is Redmayne found instructions on the peruvian gks water bottle and threw it into the crowd can anyone confirm? Hahaha please Jesus let that be true.
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+x+xrumour is Redmayne found instructions on the peruvian gks water bottle and threw it into the crowd can anyone confirm? Hahaha please Jesus let that be true. :hehe::hehe::hehe::hehe::hehe:
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+x+x+x+xit suited Australia and Arnie's tactics knowing that they didn't have to play football to win when there is extra time and penalties available We weren't the team playing for penalties for most of the game mate Give me a break. We were the better team on the day in a cagey game. We were better than Peru full stop. It's amazing the lengths people will go to in order to justify their cultural cringe Exactly.. as I say on this site ALL the time, we must be the only group of supporters in world football that talk their players DOWN! We have an inferiority complex, ange used to mention it when he started coaching us and it's even more ture today. The current team we have is nowhere near as bad as ppl make out infact many would get games in that 06 team. All of hrustic, rogic, mooy, Ryan, Souttar, Boyle, sainsbury and Irvine would have made that squad. And conversely as I said earlier before the match that peru team was not very good at all infact on paper we had a stronger lineup than them, albeit just. With rogic, souttar, sains and Taggart fit I think we'd have beaten them in normal time. Unfortunately most of our fans are ignorant and assumptive ... "oh peru finished 5th in south America, oh they must be better than us" without even looking at the fucking team sheet. Their best player is a 32 yr old Italian playing in serie b, 4 of their players play MLS and 2 in Sweden. I didn't see anyone in their side coming off a europa league final. Time to drop the inferiorty complex guys.. after all, this same group of players had a world record just 1 yr ago. I think a lot of the inferiority complex comes from where the current crop of players are playing each week. If the above-mentioned players were performing consistently in the Big 5 leagues, then the expectations for this team would be a lot higher as they were back in 2006. Regarding Peru, they spanked us 4 years ago, but times have changed. Exactly a lot has changed then, from what I saw I was disappointed with Peru today maybe they missed there best midfielder in Yatun who controls the game very well? But they didn’t look the same team that beat Colombia away from home. But you take whatever you can especially when trying to qualify for the World Cup so it’s a relief we are there now.
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Great to get the win and the team played more like a team that wanted to win than we have been gifted for some time. But let's not forget that Arnie's ideal striker is one who chases a lot as his primary indicator of performance. I saw three times that Duke ran into space and missed and I have to wonder if Maclaren would have done better in those moments. I like to think he would while also acknowledging the chasing role and how it both helped limit the creativity of Peru and gained the ball back for us. Arnie got us there the hardest way possible, and just maybe he is going to hang around for the WC itself - which will mean more shit selections, more questionable tactics, and selections based on his baked on ideas about what makes a team. The team played a fantastic game compared to earlier in the qualification process, but we still played a lot of Arnie ball in that second half when we helped Peru to get to penalties by pissing around in the backline and passing backwards - when pressing and going forward were both proving to be such an effective limiter of Peru's attacking options and gave us chances. The result was a sprightly Peru in the last half of extra time when they should have been dead on their feet halfway through the second half of normal time - and they did look like pinching the win then. There is nothing 'unAustralian' about not loving Arnie and being able to see his failings beyond the victory. I do not believe he has seen the light or the error of his ways and we still should have beaten Peru in normal time. Did it make the victory so much sweeter getting there with no fingernails at the end of an intense penalty shootout? Bloody oath it did. Genuinely pumped about the win and how the players stood up. Hopeful and excited about the next stage of our testing. Mindful of the gaffer's limitations still.
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+x+x+xI’m not a big Arnie fan but … 2005. The golden generation under Hiddink qualified for the WC by beating the 5th best South American side on penalties. 2022. A team of nobodies under Arnold qualifies for the WC by beating the 5th best South American side on penalties. Just saying. Alot different this time that it was a one off game lol. I think this definately helped us, the less football we have to play to make it the better lol. Schwarzer absolutely saved us in Montevideo. I’m glad we didn’t have to play in Lima
I think a 2 legged situation would have been interesting, especially at home where we would be forced to chase a result but it doesn’t matter now.
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