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Obviously Souttar now has the world at his feet.. thinking a mid to lower EPL team will come in for him say Everton or Southampton.
Rowles the next one being touted for a move, the hearts fan forum all conceding he's too good to stay with them. Talk of him going to a championship team. Can see a celtic or rangers coming for him too.
Duke .. contract finishing soon and obviously is playing too low a level and in a style of football not suited to him, would thrive in England or Scotland. Can see a hearts, hibs, Aberdeen or championship coming for him.
Ryan.. kept very well last 2 matches and obviously unsettled at Copenhagen. Can see him getting another move to Spain who favour sweeper keepers. Maybe this time a little lower in the table say an Almeria or something like that.
Irvine.. bundi 1. Bosses it every week in bundi 2 as close to St Pauli's best player. Now playing well at this level may attract top tier offers.
Goodwin.. can see another Asian move for him, maybe J league or K league.
What are your thoughts?
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grazorblade
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Mcgree has a chance too, maybe baccus. St mirren fans also think baccus is too good for them. Similar story with devlin though he hasnt had minutes
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johnszasz
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Degenek globetrots but European clubs might want to entice him back. It depends where he feels most settled. His time on the pitch has been excellent.
Rowles shouldn't leave Hearts just yet. Post Asian Cup would be more appropriate to get experimental because the last thing he needs is being amongst 5 good Championship centre backs. Despite being amongst the mix, we don't need him being benched every week. At the same time the Championship offers a lot of football.
I can't see Irvine advancing up. The technical ability isn't there.
Ryan is in a decent limelight again. Look at all the keeping deficiencies at this world cup. Neuer, Mendy, Unai Simon among many others have conceded goals that would see Ryan be put in the reject box if he did it.
Duke to Aberdeen please. Wouldn't that nearly ensure an entire SPL set for Australian players?
Hrustic and Mabil haven't helped themselves so far. Also, their clubs are basketcases. Unwatchable, big benches, embellished by first league status. I'd rather a Denmark based in form Mabil any day. Mabil will be considered things. Hrustic hasn't even gotten started so there's hope yet.
Those who haven't played are in a pretty good place in clubland so there's no issue there. King is good for the experience going into the future battles with Bos and Farrell.
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Bunch of Hacks
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+xMcgree has a chance too, maybe baccus. St mirren fans also think baccus is too good for them. Similar story with devlin though he hasnt had minutes Yes bacchus true can see him going up a notch whether a hearts/hibs/Aberdeen or championship.
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+xObviously Souttar now has the world at his feet.. thinking a mid to lower EPL team will come in for him say Everton or Southampton. Rowles the next one being touted for a move, the hearts fan forum all conceding he's too good to stay with them. Talk of him going to a championship team. Can see a celtic or rangers coming for him too. Duke .. contract finishing soon and obviously is playing too low a level and in a style of football not suited to him, would thrive in England or Scotland. Can see a hearts, hibs, Aberdeen or championship coming for him. Ryan.. kept very well last 2 matches and obviously unsettled at Copenhagen. Can see him getting another move to Spain who favour sweeper keepers. Maybe this time a little lower in the table say an Almeria or something like that. Irvine.. bundi 1. Bosses it every week in bundi 2 as close to St Pauli's best player. Now playing well at this level may attract top tier offers. Goodwin.. can see another Asian move for him, maybe J league or K league. What are your thoughts? There is talk of a few EPL clubs looking, some hinting at Tottenham. Much lower Everton is also touted. Conte or Lampard. London or Liverpool. I know which I would prefer
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Aljay
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Prediction- not Behich or Ryan
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Redmayne to Allianza Lima.
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grazorblade
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Behich has looked class. I wonder why he hasnt played at a higher level. Great in attack and defence this tournament
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Souttar, behich, goodwin, duke played at a level above the leagues they play in. Baccus, Rowles, played at about the right level but could get a move to a bigger clubs Everyone else is in the right spot
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+xSouttar, behich, goodwin, duke played at a level above the leagues they play in. Baccus, Rowles, played at about the right level but could get a move to a bigger clubs Everyone else is in the right spot Pretty much agree with this but I think Baccus and Rowles can move to better clubs. They are a level or 2 above the clubs they play at.
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johnszasz
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I keep thinking Rowles would be great in Italy and can get a top defensive education there.
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+xObviously Souttar now has the world at his feet.. thinking a mid to lower EPL team will come in for him say Everton or Southampton. Rowles the next one being touted for a move, the hearts fan forum all conceding he's too good to stay with them. Talk of him going to a championship team. Can see a celtic or rangers coming for him too. Duke .. contract finishing soon and obviously is playing too low a level and in a style of football not suited to him, would thrive in England or Scotland. Can see a hearts, hibs, Aberdeen or championship coming for him. Ryan.. kept very well last 2 matches and obviously unsettled at Copenhagen. Can see him getting another move to Spain who favour sweeper keepers. Maybe this time a little lower in the table say an Almeria or something like that. Irvine.. bundi 1. Bosses it every week in bundi 2 as close to St Pauli's best player. Now playing well at this level may attract top tier offers. Goodwin.. can see another Asian move for him, maybe J league or K league. What are your thoughts? You seem to not be taking age into account. Goodwin at 30, Duke at 31, Irvine at 29 will not be be stepping up a level. Plus Goodwin has had hos shot at Europe and Duke and Irvine simply aren't good enough.
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Souttar will get interest for sure, not sure of others maybe Goodwin even though he's 31 it might be too late for him.
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+xBehich has looked class. I wonder why he hasnt played at a higher level. Great in attack and defence this tournament He went to PSV but never kicked on once he signed for them.
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Souttar should be able to get a move. I hope he doesn't take too much and end up on the bench because of it.
Rowles could make a move too. Again hope he does try and take two steps. But is probably playing below his level.
A lot of our other players gave been tried at higher level and not been able to cut it. With a good portion around 30 I'd say there will be few other moves.
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Decentric 2
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I'm not as obsessed with the status of a league where footballers play. Th style of football is important.
Belgium, has players that according to their club careers, are fantastic club players and good at qualifying for big tournaments, World Cups and Euro Champs, when they play in Europe.
Yet Belgium are mentally fragile and underachieve playing outside Europe. They aren't resilient. Germany and Denmark also failed to progress from the group stages, with fantastic teams on paper, according to their illustrious club careers.
Is Italy, ostensibly with a big 5 UEFA league, a good destination? Despite having a supposed big league based on reputation, the national Italian team has failed to qualify for the last 2 World Cups in succession! They were knocked out by North Macedonia after failing to top their group. It isn't a good look as a football club destination.
Think of the scenario like this.
There are 5 big UEFA Leagues and 2 big South American Leagues. Axiomatically they are recognised as the big seven leagues in the world.
if we suggest 15 players play weekly for each club, in any given week in each of these leagues, with 20 clubs, 300 players play on a weekly basis.
That equates to 2100 players playing weekly in the big 7 world leagues.
The World Cup only has 32 teams. If there are 15 players per nation at the World Cup who get game time, only circa 480 footballers worldwide play at the World Cup. So at least 1600 players in the big 7 global leagues don't play at the World Cup.
What we want are resilient players able to perform in culturally diverse settings anywhere on the globe. Not necessarily feted UEFA club players, who can't cut the mustard when they play outside Europe. They might he a bit soft in terms of mental strength . Performing in developing countries with cultures that are alien to some European star club footballers, is paramount.
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+xSouttar should be able to get a move. I hope he doesn't take too much and end up on the bench because of it. Rowles could make a move too. Again hope he does try and take two steps. But is probably playing below his level. A lot of our other players gave been tried at higher level and not been able to cut it. With a good portion around 30 I'd say there will be few other moves. The highest level is the World Cup. If any player has a good tournament at the WC, no club level should be beyond them. Only 32 CBs will play in the last 16 of Qatar. Most CBs playing in the world's best seven leagues aren't still playing in the knock out stages of Qatar, they have been eliminated before the last 16, failed to qualify for the WC, or have been deemed not good enough to be selected for their national teams.
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Decentric 2
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+x+xObviously Souttar now has the world at his feet.. thinking a mid to lower EPL team will come in for him say Everton or Southampton. Rowles the next one being touted for a move, the hearts fan forum all conceding he's too good to stay with them. Talk of him going to a championship team. Can see a celtic or rangers coming for him too. Duke .. contract finishing soon and obviously is playing too low a level and in a style of football not suited to him, would thrive in England or Scotland. Can see a hearts, hibs, Aberdeen or championship coming for him. Ryan.. kept very well last 2 matches and obviously unsettled at Copenhagen. Can see him getting another move to Spain who favour sweeper keepers. Maybe this time a little lower in the table say an Almeria or something like that. Irvine.. bundi 1. Bosses it every week in bundi 2 as close to St Pauli's best player. Now playing well at this level may attract top tier offers. Goodwin.. can see another Asian move for him, maybe J league or K league. What are your thoughts? You seem to not be taking age into account. Goodwin at 30, Duke at 31, Irvine at 29 will not be be stepping up a level. Plus Goodwin has had hos shot at Europe and Duke and Irvine simply aren't good enough. Goodwin and Duke have achieved what many players playing in the UEFA big five leagues and the big two South American leagues have not. They've scored goals at the World Cup. Goodwin has scored against Argentina and France. Most forwards and wingers around the world who play professionally aren't good enough to play at the World Cup, let alone score against previous World Cup winners and current World Champions. Agree about age though. At ages 29, 30 and 31, clubs often don't like recruiting players.
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+x+x+xObviously Souttar now has the world at his feet.. thinking a mid to lower EPL team will come in for him say Everton or Southampton. Rowles the next one being touted for a move, the hearts fan forum all conceding he's too good to stay with them. Talk of him going to a championship team. Can see a celtic or rangers coming for him too. Duke .. contract finishing soon and obviously is playing too low a level and in a style of football not suited to him, would thrive in England or Scotland. Can see a hearts, hibs, Aberdeen or championship coming for him. Ryan.. kept very well last 2 matches and obviously unsettled at Copenhagen. Can see him getting another move to Spain who favour sweeper keepers. Maybe this time a little lower in the table say an Almeria or something like that. Irvine.. bundi 1. Bosses it every week in bundi 2 as close to St Pauli's best player. Now playing well at this level may attract top tier offers. Goodwin.. can see another Asian move for him, maybe J league or K league. What are your thoughts? You seem to not be taking age into account. Goodwin at 30, Duke at 31, Irvine at 29 will not be be stepping up a level. Plus Goodwin has had hos shot at Europe and Duke and Irvine simply aren't good enough. Goodwin and Duke have achieved what many players playing in the UEFA big five leagues and the big two South American leagues have not. They've scored goals at the World Cup. Goodwin has scored against Argentina and France. Most forwards and wingers around the world who play professionally aren't good enough to play at the World Cup, let alone score against previous World Cup winners and current World Champions. Agree about age though. At ages 29, 30 and 31, clubs often don't like recruiting players. Yep, Duke is going to replace Haaland at Man City.
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+x+xObviously Souttar now has the world at his feet.. thinking a mid to lower EPL team will come in for him say Everton or Southampton. Rowles the next one being touted for a move, the hearts fan forum all conceding he's too good to stay with them. Talk of him going to a championship team. Can see a celtic or rangers coming for him too. Duke .. contract finishing soon and obviously is playing too low a level and in a style of football not suited to him, would thrive in England or Scotland. Can see a hearts, hibs, Aberdeen or championship coming for him. Ryan.. kept very well last 2 matches and obviously unsettled at Copenhagen. Can see him getting another move to Spain who favour sweeper keepers. Maybe this time a little lower in the table say an Almeria or something like that. Irvine.. bundi 1. Bosses it every week in bundi 2 as close to St Pauli's best player. Now playing well at this level may attract top tier offers. Goodwin.. can see another Asian move for him, maybe J league or K league. What are your thoughts? You seem to not be taking age into account. Goodwin at 30, Duke at 31, Irvine at 29 will not be be stepping up a level. Plus Goodwin has had hos shot at Europe and Duke and Irvine simply aren't good enough. Mooy had his shot at Europe too. Then got better and played in the EPL. Goodwin is definitely good enough to move to a better league (not claiming EPL).
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hope Goodwin goes middle east or china deserves to get a big payout.
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I think Duke, Goodwin and Irvine will probably remain with their current clubs. Italy has been a destination where players have been able to extend their careers but I think it's unlikely for any of them. Middle East sure but Goodwin has already had a crack there. Maybe MLS? We don't seem to have had much of a presence there although I notice a few Kiwis have in the past. I'm not sure that Goodwin or Irvine would want to move. Don't know about Duke.
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There's a chance that some players who make a move that's above their actual ability might warm the bench and not get game time before next year's Asian Cup.
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+x+xSouttar should be able to get a move. I hope he doesn't take too much and end up on the bench because of it. Rowles could make a move too. Again hope he does try and take two steps. But is probably playing below his level. A lot of our other players gave been tried at higher level and not been able to cut it. With a good portion around 30 I'd say there will be few other moves. The highest level is the World Cup. If any player has a good tournament at the WC, no club level should be beyond them. Only 32 CBs will play in the last 16 of Qatar. Most CBs playing in the world's best seven leagues aren't still playing in the knock out stages of Qatar, they have been eliminated before the last 16, failed to qualify for the WC, or have been deemed not good enough to be selected for their national teams. I think it is very debateable that the highest level of football is the World Cup. Was back in the 70's, 80's and probably 90's, but probably not so anymore. I would say that club football at EPL, La Liga, Serie A and Bundesliga, and certainly in the Champions League, is a higher level overall than the World Cup, because with not many exceptions all the world's best players play in these competitions. Also, there is a significant body of opinion that the Euro's is a harder competition to win than the World Cup, and has a higher level of football. This is not to say that the World Cup is not a very high level competition, it very much is, but it is strongly arguable that it is not the highest level. It is a simplistic argument, which you are essentially putting forward here, to say that because the best national teams from each region across the world are competing, the World Cup is therefore the highest level of football.
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It might not be the highest level but I do think it's the toughest
The way players fight for the ball etc is just different to club football.
Not saying I agree with Decentric at all, it's just something I was thinking the other day.
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Honestly think Rowles deserves a move. Such an underrated player who wins the ball so much. I think playing alongside souttar makes him not stand out as much. Can’t believe we are going to have these two as our cb pairing for the next ten years. Nothing but amazing
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Decentric 2
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+xBehich has looked class. I wonder why he hasnt played at a higher level. Great in attack and defence this tournament Agree. Turkey has a high standard league, where Behich has played a lot of his club football. Even though they've struggled to qualify for big tournaments of late.
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+x+xBehich has looked class. I wonder why he hasnt played at a higher level. Great in attack and defence this tournament Agree. Turkey has a high standard league, even though they've struggled to qualify for big tournaments of late. How long has Behich been in Scotland for? I haven't been following Aussies Abroad as much recently as I should have.
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Decentric 2
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+xI keep thinking Rowles would be great in Italy and can get a top defensive education there. In the past, yes. However football is forever evolving. Italy were axiomatically considered to be a world powerhouse 5 years ago and prior. However, they have not qualified for the World Cup in both 2018 and 2022. This is no coincidence, that failure occurs for 2 World Cups in succession. The world powerhouse title is a misnomer for the current Italy. If Italy can't top its UEFA QCQing group, and is knocked out by North Macedonia, they've forfeited the title of world powerhouse. One failure can be deemed an aberration, but failing WCQualification in 2018 as well, indicates something is systemically wrong with Italian football. Italian coaches and domestic Italian players in the Serie A, can't be that good ATM. No Italian players have played at as high a standard as Rowles has during the last few weeks, for 5 years or more.
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+x+x+xBehich has looked class. I wonder why he hasnt played at a higher level. Great in attack and defence this tournament Agree. Turkey has a high standard league, even though they've struggled to qualify for big tournaments of late. How long has Behich been in Scotland for? I haven't been following Aussies Abroad as much recently as I should have. I haven't followed it much either. I think just this season. I've stopped following it because there is a tenuous extrapolation between club football and international success, particularly playing outside one's home continent for some players and teams.
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