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+x+xWas a good performance overall I thought, yes we got lucky with the refs but we had loads of chances. I believe we are a top 20 nation in this form after seeing France smash the Dutch overnight our 4-1 loss doesn't look that bad considering we led for a little bit lol I was wrong on Robertson still a bit raw but silky on the ball, would be interested to see him and volpato in the same team as two 8/10s in front of a 6. I vote for Dukzinho as his new nickname haha also big ups for Harry must have been scary coming back to the stadium where he had that horrid injury glad thats off his back now. We had two offside goals that VAR would have stopped BUT we also had two nailed on penalties that VAR would have given us. I really enjoyed just going with the on field officials and celebrating the moment in the game without having to wait for the re-refereeing of everything. True!
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+x+x+xIFAB has killed the Redmayne penalty kick antics starting in July 2023. Crawley won't be able pick Redmayne as a specialist penalty saving GK anymore. Pretty much makes him redundant. AMB in! No. Lawrence Thomas in. Thomas is in form yet AMB will battle with Gauci in the 2 and 3 role and then 1.
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+x+x+x+x+x[quote]Also with Aiden O'Neill and how he played I think we found our answer to the next No.6 for the national team, he was excellent not only on the ball but he was great defensively. This was eye opening to see that he could slot straight into the team and play that well at this level. +xHow much has Craig Goodwin come on in last few years.
And duke I have always rated. How is he in J2? Is fantastic at international level.
Indeed, Craig Goodwin had an excellent World Cup, he’s an exciting player to watch, he had an excellent game against Ecuador tonight. What I can’t understand is how some big European club hasn’t signed him up.
And Duke was also very good tonight.
He has been to Europe and failed. He is happy at Adelaide, it has brought the best out of him that going to Europe did not. I think what is clear is that if a player is dominating in the A-league they can be good enough to start for the Socceroos. The last sentence is very true. Players feel comfortable in different club scenarios. Goodwin is an extremely intelligent player. I can't remember us ever having such an intelligent winger? He doesn't have the ability to dribble past and run at defenders like Mabil, Boyle, Arzani ( a few years ago), Kuol, etc. Although I saw him pull off superb inside cut, to completely wrongfoot a defender. Maybe he is more judicious about the best time to run at defenders? He prefers passing and moving in attacking interplay. Where he excels is his penalty box positioning, composure in shooting, superb crossing, free kick taking and working in cohesive contentions, particularly with Duke, and in this game, Irvine as an Attacking Mid, plus Behich. They have a terrific understanding. I can't get over how much Goodwin has improved around the age of 30? Most players start declining at this age. Or is it a question of seamlessly lifting his game to another level with higher calibre players in the Socceroo line up than he has played with in club football? Moreover , Goodwin is a really decent defensive winger when the other team has the ball. I think Goodwin has played as left back at club level, which helps his tracking back and defensive running, tackling, delaying, jockeying, showing - and shielding . ATM IMO he is the best winger we have. I think the other players lift with Goodwin on the pitch. Along with Cahill (2006 and 2014) and Holman (2010), he is the only Socceroo to score 2 goals in the same World Cup comp. ATM Goodwin would be a good Socceroo captain. A few mates think a couple of our recent captains aren't articulate enough. Goodwin definitely is! Bresciano played as a winger for many yrs with us until being shifted inside to number 10 after his pace and agility declined. Also Chipperfield was a highly highly intelligent winger til late 2005 when Gus shifted him to Lb. Kewell also. We've had a few
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+x+xI'm sure Arnold has recognised it now that Irvine and Hrustic just don't belong as a 6. Way to hectic and panicky when exposed from all sides. O'Neill is calm in that area of the pitch. Hrustic and Irvine are much better when they're able to focus mostly on what's in front of them and not be made nervous from behind. I watched the replay of Friday's Ecuador v Aus with a number of current and former senior NPL players I've coached. All of us agreed that Hrustic is, sadly, quite a dumb player, who makes a lot of poor decisions, and makes slow, wrong decisions. At the same time Hrustic is one of our most skilful players with the ball at his feet. After Irvine excelled in his first game as Attacking Mid, or Ten, for most of the game, and O'Neill's superb display as the number 6, who screens the defence, and who can also compensate for Mooy's weakness getting to loose ball contests, and lack of nimbleness - Hrustic goes way down the pecking order as number Ten after Irvine, (even the classy glimpses we saw of Robertson's cameo), Rogic and the ever improving McGree. Hrustic is also a lazy defender when the other team has the ball. He will struggle to be selected if all players are fit. O'Neill is a superior DM , 6, or midfield screener, better than anyone else we have ATM. This enables Irvine to play in a more advanced position. I just hope O'Neill does not inexplicably fade out. 100% agree with Hrustic he is so frustrating. His decision making is horrid. Never have I seen a player with such a gulf between their technical and tactical ability. His passing, crossing shooting and touch isolation are magnificent but the moving chessboard of players and opponents around him he does not contend well. Tbh the best I've seen him play for us is as a RW where he has more time and space to pick out a pass with his wand of a left boot. Should definitely not be played as a 6 or an 8. 10 or winger only woth preference for winger
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+x+xI'm sure Arnold has recognised it now that Irvine and Hrustic just don't belong as a 6. Way to hectic and panicky when exposed from all sides. O'Neill is calm in that area of the pitch. Hrustic and Irvine are much better when they're able to focus mostly on what's in front of them and not be made nervous from behind. I watched the replay of Friday's Ecuador v Aus with a number of current and former senior NPL players I've coached. All of us agreed that Hrustic is, sadly, quite a dumb player, who makes a lot of poor decisions, and makes slow, wrong decisions. At the same time Hrustic is one of our most skilful players with the ball at his feet. After Irvine excelled in his first game as Attacking Mid, or Ten, for most of the game, and O'Neill's superb display as the number 6, who screens the defence, and who can also compensate for Mooy's weakness getting to loose ball contests, and lack of nimbleness - Hrustic goes way down the pecking order as number Ten after Irvine, (even the classy glimpses we saw of Robertson's cameo), Rogic and the ever improving McGree. Hrustic is also a lazy defender when the other team has the ball. He will struggle to be selected if all players are fit. O'Neill is a superior DM , 6, or midfield screener, better than anyone else we have ATM. This enables Irvine to play in a more advanced position. I just hope O'Neill does not inexplicably fade out. Mcgree is best on the wing imo which is where he plays for boro
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We go again. Time for a bit of rotation
Gauci Strain Deng Rowles Bos O'Neill Devlin Metcalfe McGree Goodwin Cummings
I'd like to see the defence have a run without Souttar. Lord knows we had it a lot in qualifying but test it here again. Let Devlin have a go at the Baccus role. McGree can roam where he wants and Metcalfe can also shift accordingly. I'd anticipate Strain to overlap a lot more unlike Degenek. Goodwin for set plays and Cummings just to try someone else. Borrello on when they're a bit tired.
McGree gets listed as a 10 every week at Boro but definitely roams as he wishes.
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+x+xCredit to Arnie. He had built an incredible vibe within that team. So glad people are finally seeing this. Grrrrrrr hate to admit it but put me in that camp as well... Arnie is doing a top notch job as NT Gaffer..... Seems to be a better "man manager" than outright tactician in my opinion but he HAS blooded some youth and is pragmatic in how he sets the squad up now. (Really like the young kid from City, silky touch and seems to have the right amount of mongrel in him) but also the way the team seems to really want to play for the shirt and each other.... something sorely missing these past few years..... Sorry Arnie, we trust you now..... go get us some silverware would ya bloke?
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going with people from overseas and kids from our club tomorrow...hoping the side isn't too drastically different and experimental as would love the boys to put on another great show.
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+xgoing with people from overseas and kids from our club tomorrow...hoping the side isn't too drastically different and experimental as would love the boys to put on another great show. Tuesday night is balls..... Ive got a parent/teacher thing at school and Mrs wont let me go :( ...... Have fun
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+xWe go again. Time for a bit of rotation Gauci Strain Deng Rowles Bos O'Neill Devlin Metcalfe McGree Goodwin Cummings I'd like to see the defence have a run without Souttar. Lord knows we had it a lot in qualifying but test it here again. Let Devlin have a go at the Baccus role. McGree can roam where he wants and Metcalfe can also shift accordingly. I'd anticipate Strain to overlap a lot more unlike Degenek. Goodwin for set plays and Cummings just to try someone else. Borrello on when they're a bit tired. McGree gets listed as a 10 every week at Boro but definitely roams as he wishes. Don't mind the personnel. but I am not expecting O'neill to start again. I think Devlin at 6 with Metcalfe and Mcgree at 10's with flexible movement. I think we will see Kuol on wing and cummings up front. Atkinson is a strange one because IMO he probably should not be there at all based on form. I get the feeling GA loves him so I would expect Atkinson in over strain at RB. GA will put Irankunda on at some stage for the story alone. Robertson will be a late sub for Riley Mcgree IMO, because he was sick recently.
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So Souttar is out with an ankle knock. It sounds like if it was an important game he might have been able to play but for a friendly it is better he goes back to England and gets treatment on the ankle so he doesn't miss any, or as few as possible club game. However I am pissed off, Bailey Wright is going to replace him not Thomas Deng. What a waste of an opportunity to see where Deng is at, we know what Wright can do so him playing is pointless. McGree is also going to start, perhaps as the number 10, with Irvine moving back although I would not be starting Irvine either, give Devlin a go. It is going to be a massive waster of an opportunity if he starts all the older players like Goodwin, Behich, Irvine, Degenek, Mabil and Duke in the second game. We need to give players like Bos, Tilio, Borello, Metcafe, Devlin and Strain a start to see how they go. I would add Deng to that but he is definitely not starting.
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I think Arnie has handled the blending of young players very well thus far.
Playing with too much inexperience on the park at the same time isn’t going to give these younger guys the best chance to impress, and the overall team may suffer.
Have a bit of faith in Arnie’s reasoning. He’s earned it.
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+x+x+xCredit to Arnie. He had built an incredible vibe within that team. So glad people are finally seeing this. Grrrrrrr hate to admit it but put me in that camp as well... Arnie is doing a top notch job as NT Gaffer..... Seems to be a better "man manager" than outright tactician in my opinion but he HAS blooded some youth and is pragmatic in how he sets the squad up now. (Really like the young kid from City, silky touch and seems to have the right amount of mongrel in him) but also the way the team seems to really want to play for the shirt and each other.... something sorely missing these past few years..... Sorry Arnie, we trust you now..... go get us some silverware would ya bloke? I think tactically Australia has really grown. I wonder how much is Arnie how much is Muelensteen? I think Arnies biggest strength is he's pragmatic about the teams quality and sets us up tactically to play to our strengths and avoid weaknesses.
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+x+xI'm sure Arnold has recognised it now that Irvine and Hrustic just don't belong as a 6. Way to hectic and panicky when exposed from all sides. O'Neill is calm in that area of the pitch. Hrustic and Irvine are much better when they're able to focus mostly on what's in front of them and not be made nervous from behind. I watched the replay of Friday's Ecuador v Aus with a number of current and former senior NPL players I've coached. All of us agreed that Hrustic is, sadly, quite a dumb player, who makes a lot of poor decisions, and makes slow, wrong decisions. At the same time Hrustic is one of our most skilful players with the ball at his feet. After Irvine excelled in his first game as Attacking Mid, or Ten, for most of the game, and O'Neill's superb display as the number 6, who screens the defence, and who can also compensate for Mooy's weakness getting to loose ball contests, and lack of nimbleness - Hrustic goes way down the pecking order as number Ten after Irvine, (even the classy glimpses we saw of Robertson's cameo), Rogic and the ever improving McGree. Hrustic is also a lazy defender when the other team has the ball. He will struggle to be selected if all players are fit. O'Neill is a superior DM , 6, or midfield screener, better than anyone else we have ATM. This enables Irvine to play in a more advanced position. I just hope O'Neill does not inexplicably fade out. While Irvine was wonderful in his role as the attacking midfieder or No 10, like Cahill, he plays like Cahill, there is not a lot of creativity, industrial yes, lots of running & getting in the right positions, but he aint creating a lot, without Mooy, Hrustic, there was little creativity coming from our midfield 3 until Robertson came on. Irvine is a running no 8, but not a no 10.
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+x+x+xI'm sure Arnold has recognised it now that Irvine and Hrustic just don't belong as a 6. Way to hectic and panicky when exposed from all sides. O'Neill is calm in that area of the pitch. Hrustic and Irvine are much better when they're able to focus mostly on what's in front of them and not be made nervous from behind. I watched the replay of Friday's Ecuador v Aus with a number of current and former senior NPL players I've coached. All of us agreed that Hrustic is, sadly, quite a dumb player, who makes a lot of poor decisions, and makes slow, wrong decisions. At the same time Hrustic is one of our most skilful players with the ball at his feet. After Irvine excelled in his first game as Attacking Mid, or Ten, for most of the game, and O'Neill's superb display as the number 6, who screens the defence, and who can also compensate for Mooy's weakness getting to loose ball contests, and lack of nimbleness - Hrustic goes way down the pecking order as number Ten after Irvine, (even the classy glimpses we saw of Robertson's cameo), Rogic and the ever improving McGree. Hrustic is also a lazy defender when the other team has the ball. He will struggle to be selected if all players are fit. O'Neill is a superior DM , 6, or midfield screener, better than anyone else we have ATM. This enables Irvine to play in a more advanced position. I just hope O'Neill does not inexplicably fade out. While Irvine was wonderful in his role as the attacking midfieder or No 10, like Cahill, he plays like Cahill, there is not a lot of creativity, industrial yes, lots of running & getting in the right positions, but he aint creating a lot, without Mooy, Hrustic, there was little creativity coming from our midfield 3 until Robertson came on. Irvine is a running no 8, but not a no 10. Id like to see Mooy and Robertson together (old bull and young bull) in the middle of the park.. I know its very very very early to get excited by this kid but he has a silky touch and looks to position himself so first "movement" is forward... Would excel with a more methodical Mooy dictating tempo behind him, allowing him to turn and feed to the wings.... Put Hrsutic out far right watch the goals pour in ....... Worth the "experiment" I think.
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+xI think Arnie has handled the blending of young players very well thus far. Playing with too much inexperience on the park at the same time isn’t going to give these younger guys the best chance to impress, and the overall team may suffer. Have a bit of faith in Arnie’s reasoning. He’s earned it. Very well said. Sad about Souttar not playing..........main crowd puller of the team.
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Arnie has done well but people forget who is seated next to him. I think Rene has done very well also and is clearly able to help identify who he thinks will work in camp and also providing some tactical guidance to Arnie. I am glad he also signed on for another cycle.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x[quote]Also with Aiden O'Neill and how he played I think we found our answer to the next No.6 for the national team, he was excellent not only on the ball but he was great defensively. This was eye opening to see that he could slot straight into the team and play that well at this level. +xHow much has Craig Goodwin come on in last few years.
And duke I have always rated. How is he in J2? Is fantastic at international level.
Indeed, Craig Goodwin had an excellent World Cup, he’s an exciting player to watch, he had an excellent game against Ecuador tonight. What I can’t understand is how some big European club hasn’t signed him up.
And Duke was also very good tonight.
He has been to Europe and failed. He is happy at Adelaide, it has brought the best out of him that going to Europe did not. I think what is clear is that if a player is dominating in the A-league they can be good enough to start for the Socceroos. The last sentence is very true. Players feel comfortable in different club scenarios. Goodwin is an extremely intelligent player. I can't remember us ever having such an intelligent winger? He doesn't have the ability to dribble past and run at defenders like Mabil, Boyle, Arzani ( a few years ago), Kuol, etc. Although I saw him pull off superb inside cut, to completely wrongfoot a defender. Maybe he is more judicious about the best time to run at defenders? He prefers passing and moving in attacking interplay. Where he excels is his penalty box positioning, composure in shooting, superb crossing, free kick taking and working in cohesive contentions, particularly with Duke, and in this game, Irvine as an Attacking Mid, plus Behich. They have a terrific understanding. I can't get over how much Goodwin has improved around the age of 30? Most players start declining at this age. Or is it a question of seamlessly lifting his game to another level with higher calibre players in the Socceroo line up than he has played with in club football? Moreover , Goodwin is a really decent defensive winger when the other team has the ball. I think Goodwin has played as left back at club level, which helps his tracking back and defensive running, tackling, delaying, jockeying, showing - and shielding . ATM IMO he is the best winger we have. I think the other players lift with Goodwin on the pitch. Along with Cahill (2006 and 2014) and Holman (2010), he is the only Socceroo to score 2 goals in the same World Cup comp. ATM Goodwin would be a good Socceroo captain. A few mates think a couple of our recent captains aren't articulate enough. Goodwin definitely is! Bresciano played as a winger for many yrs with us until being shifted inside to number 10 after his pace and agility declined. Also Chipperfield was a highly highly intelligent winger til late 2005 when Gus shifted him to Lb. Kewell also. We've had a few I was aware of this when I made the comment, but Bresciano played more as a left sided midfielder, in a 4-2-3-1, than a wide winger. Bresc didn't play like Emo or Kewell in that era either. Or the likes of Boyle, Mabil now. Bresc didn't take players on and try and beat them.
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+x+x+xCredit to Arnie. He had built an incredible vibe within that team. So glad people are finally seeing this. Grrrrrrr hate to admit it but put me in that camp as well... Arnie is doing a top notch job as NT Gaffer..... Seems to be a better "man manager" than outright tactician in my opinion but he HAS blooded some youth and is pragmatic in how he sets the squad up now. (Really like the young kid from City, silky touch and seems to have the right amount of mongrel in him) but also the way the team seems to really want to play for the shirt and each other.... something sorely missing these past few years..... Sorry Arnie, we trust you now..... go get us some silverware would ya bloke? Arnie is one of the best coaches in the world in international, country v country, football ATM. He is an excellent tactician too - as well as a decent player manager. Probably the reason Baccus struggled a bit, was because he filled the role of Irvine (a far more experienced players) who plays a different role in each of Arnie's fluctuating 4-4-2 flat midfield in Ball Possession Opposition, then in Ball Possession 4-3-3 both attacking and defensive midfield triangles in the middle third, and 4-2-4 in the attacking third. Without Irvine playing this role, I didn't realise how difficult it was to do it, in a very sophisticated game plan. I often read the opposition media after games. The Peruvian coach said (when we beat them in May in the sudden death knock out game, and who is very highly rated) it was very difficult to counter and work out the Socceroo game plan for more than 45 mins.
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+xSo Souttar is out with an ankle knock. However I am pissed off, Bailey Wright is going to replace him not Thomas Deng. What a waste of an opportunity to see where Deng is at, we know what Wright can do so him playing is pointless.
I'm really surprised with this too? Wright and Rowles were a good CB pairing in the late qualifiers though. Wright is very experienced and if we have an inexperienced defence, he will be the organiser. One has to know one's own game well to organise others. I want to see the younger Deng play CB though.
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+xJust got back from Commbank stadium from the Socceroos V Ecuador game, good result against a decent South American team.
My only criticism of the Socceroos performance, was that there still too many silly turnovers in possession, but the counter attacks were very good. The turnovers were due to the Full Pressing and Intensive Squeezing game plan, with both an attacking line and midfield line each comprising 3 players, often having 6 Ecuadorean players in our defensive half. They desperately wanted to disturb our build ups in gengen pressing our defensive half when we had the ball. This created too much space between their midfield and defensive lines, in our Attacking Transitions. It won the game for us.
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+x+x+xI'm sure Arnold has recognised it now that Irvine and Hrustic just don't belong as a 6. Way to hectic and panicky when exposed from all sides. O'Neill is calm in that area of the pitch. Hrustic and Irvine are much better when they're able to focus mostly on what's in front of them and not be made nervous from behind. I watched the replay of Friday's Ecuador v Aus with a number of current and former senior NPL players I've coached. All of us agreed that Hrustic is, sadly, quite a dumb player, who makes a lot of poor decisions, and makes slow, wrong decisions. At the same time Hrustic is one of our most skilful players with the ball at his feet. After Irvine excelled in his first game as Attacking Mid, or Ten, for most of the game, and O'Neill's superb display as the number 6, who screens the defence, and who can also compensate for Mooy's weakness getting to loose ball contests, and lack of nimbleness - Hrustic goes way down the pecking order as number Ten after Irvine, (even the classy glimpses we saw of Robertson's cameo), Rogic and the ever improving McGree. Hrustic is also a lazy defender when the other team has the ball. He will struggle to be selected if all players are fit. O'Neill is a superior DM , 6, or midfield screener, better than anyone else we have ATM. This enables Irvine to play in a more advanced position. I just hope O'Neill does not inexplicably fade out. While Irvine was wonderful in his role as the attacking midfieder or No 10, like Cahill, he plays like Cahill, there is not a lot of creativity, industrial yes, lots of running & getting in the right positions, but he aint creating a lot, without Mooy, Hrustic, there was little creativity coming from our midfield 3 until Robertson came on. Irvine is a running no 8, but not a no 10. I respectfully disagree, Robbos. For the first time I can remember, Irvine showed what he can do as a Ten, or Attacking Mid. Given the emergence of O'Neill, a classic midfield screener, Irvine showed his late runs and penalty box predation are more valuable to the team than having him playing a deeper role, or more of a box to box midfielder. There was some terrific combination play amongst Irvine, Duke and Goodwin, plus Behich too - on a number of occasions. These guys have some nice synergy. Guys like Leckie, Mabil and Hrustic, even Rogic, never really combine as cohesively with fellow attacking players.
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+xArnie has done well but people forget who is seated next to him. I think Rene has done very well also and is clearly able to help identify who he thinks will work in camp and also providing some tactical guidance to Arnie. I am glad he also signed on for another cycle. Has Meulensteen ever been a head senior coach? I thought he had been more of a development coach? Man U Academy have seen excellent training ground exercises that may have been devised by him. His team up with Arnie could be very significant as a combination, a bit like Clough/Taylor. Aus struggled against Saudi and Japan without Arnie though.
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+x+xWe go again. Time for a bit of rotation Gauci Strain Deng Rowles Bos O'Neill Devlin Metcalfe McGree Goodwin Cummings I'd like to see the defence have a run without Souttar. Lord knows we had it a lot in qualifying but test it here again. Let Devlin have a go at the Baccus role. McGree can roam where he wants and Metcalfe can also shift accordingly. I'd anticipate Strain to overlap a lot more unlike Degenek. Goodwin for set plays and Cummings just to try someone else. Borrello on when they're a bit tired. McGree gets listed as a 10 every week at Boro but definitely roams as he wishes. Don't mind the personnel. but I am not expecting O'neill to start again. If O'Neill keeps playing like he did against Ecuador, when he was one of the best players on the pitch, he will be one of the first Socceroos on the team sheet. What impressed me was both O'Neill's distribution and composure on the ball, quick and intelligent thinking - and - his ball winning capacity. Ecuador put his part of the pitch under a lot of pressure too, in terms of closing down time and space. Not many players are as good as both ball winners and ball players - at their peaks Milligan, Sains, Spira, Grella and Neill may have been.
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+xSome pretty harsh comments on Mabil in here. He was fantastic for a player that hasn't been a regular starter for 3+ years. He needs consistent club football. I have no doubt if he played week in week out at club level he'd be one of our best players. It was a nice goal from Mabil! Whereas he's more skilful than Goodwin at taking players on, he isn't on the same wave length in terms of combining in attacking interplay. Mabil doesn't have the same game sense, and ability to anticipate play a bit ahead of the game, like Goodwin, Duke , Irvine and Maclaren. Leckie, Hrustic are similar in this facet of play and probably worse.
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+x+x+x+xI'm sure Arnold has recognised it now that Irvine and Hrustic just don't belong as a 6. Way to hectic and panicky when exposed from all sides. O'Neill is calm in that area of the pitch. Hrustic and Irvine are much better when they're able to focus mostly on what's in front of them and not be made nervous from behind. I watched the replay of Friday's Ecuador v Aus with a number of current and former senior NPL players I've coached. All of us agreed that Hrustic is, sadly, quite a dumb player, who makes a lot of poor decisions, and makes slow, wrong decisions. At the same time Hrustic is one of our most skilful players with the ball at his feet. After Irvine excelled in his first game as Attacking Mid, or Ten, for most of the game, and O'Neill's superb display as the number 6, who screens the defence, and who can also compensate for Mooy's weakness getting to loose ball contests, and lack of nimbleness - Hrustic goes way down the pecking order as number Ten after Irvine, (even the classy glimpses we saw of Robertson's cameo), Rogic and the ever improving McGree. Hrustic is also a lazy defender when the other team has the ball. He will struggle to be selected if all players are fit. O'Neill is a superior DM , 6, or midfield screener, better than anyone else we have ATM. This enables Irvine to play in a more advanced position. I just hope O'Neill does not inexplicably fade out. While Irvine was wonderful in his role as the attacking midfieder or No 10, like Cahill, he plays like Cahill, there is not a lot of creativity, industrial yes, lots of running & getting in the right positions, but he aint creating a lot, without Mooy, Hrustic, there was little creativity coming from our midfield 3 until Robertson came on. Irvine is a running no 8, but not a no 10. I respectfully disagree, Robbos. For the first time I can remember, Irvine showed what he can do as a Ten, or Attacking Mid. Given the emergence of O'Neill, a classic midfield screener, Irvine showed his late runs and penalty box predation are more valuable to the team than having him playing a deeper role, or more of a box to box midfielder. There was some terrific combination play amongst Irvine, Duke and Goodwin, plus Behich too - on a number of occasions. These guys have some nice synergy. Guys like Leckie, Mabil and Hrustic, even Rogic, never really combine as cohesively with fellow attacking players. Irvine is literally the modern day poor man's Frank lampard. Little to no creativity but just lung busting running both ways and gets to the right place at the right time and tucks the ball away whether by foot or head.
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+x+xArnie has done well but people forget who is seated next to him. I think Rene has done very well also and is clearly able to help identify who he thinks will work in camp and also providing some tactical guidance to Arnie. I am glad he also signed on for another cycle. Has Meulensteen ever been a head senior coach? I thought he had been more of a development coach? Man U Academy have seen excellent training ground exercises that may have been devised by him. His team up with Arnie could be very significant as a combination, a bit like Clough/Taylor. Aus struggled against Saudi and Japan without Arnie though. Yes he coached Fulham
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x[quote]Also with Aiden O'Neill and how he played I think we found our answer to the next No.6 for the national team, he was excellent not only on the ball but he was great defensively. This was eye opening to see that he could slot straight into the team and play that well at this level. +xHow much has Craig Goodwin come on in last few years.
And duke I have always rated. How is he in J2? Is fantastic at international level.
Indeed, Craig Goodwin had an excellent World Cup, he’s an exciting player to watch, he had an excellent game against Ecuador tonight. What I can’t understand is how some big European club hasn’t signed him up.
And Duke was also very good tonight.
He has been to Europe and failed. He is happy at Adelaide, it has brought the best out of him that going to Europe did not. I think what is clear is that if a player is dominating in the A-league they can be good enough to start for the Socceroos. The last sentence is very true. Players feel comfortable in different club scenarios. Goodwin is an extremely intelligent player. I can't remember us ever having such an intelligent winger? He doesn't have the ability to dribble past and run at defenders like Mabil, Boyle, Arzani ( a few years ago), Kuol, etc. Although I saw him pull off superb inside cut, to completely wrongfoot a defender. Maybe he is more judicious about the best time to run at defenders? He prefers passing and moving in attacking interplay. Where he excels is his penalty box positioning, composure in shooting, superb crossing, free kick taking and working in cohesive contentions, particularly with Duke, and in this game, Irvine as an Attacking Mid, plus Behich. They have a terrific understanding. I can't get over how much Goodwin has improved around the age of 30? Most players start declining at this age. Or is it a question of seamlessly lifting his game to another level with higher calibre players in the Socceroo line up than he has played with in club football? Moreover , Goodwin is a really decent defensive winger when the other team has the ball. I think Goodwin has played as left back at club level, which helps his tracking back and defensive running, tackling, delaying, jockeying, showing - and shielding . ATM IMO he is the best winger we have. I think the other players lift with Goodwin on the pitch. Along with Cahill (2006 and 2014) and Holman (2010), he is the only Socceroo to score 2 goals in the same World Cup comp. ATM Goodwin would be a good Socceroo captain. A few mates think a couple of our recent captains aren't articulate enough. Goodwin definitely is! Bresciano played as a winger for many yrs with us until being shifted inside to number 10 after his pace and agility declined. Also Chipperfield was a highly highly intelligent winger til late 2005 when Gus shifted him to Lb. Kewell also. We've had a few I was aware of this when I made the comment, but Bresciano played more as a left sided midfielder, in a 4-2-3-1, than a wide winger. Bresc didn't play like Emo or Kewell in that era either. Or the likes of Boyle, Mabil now. Bresc didn't take players on and try and beat them. Hmm in his years at parma he was quite quick off the mark. Would regularly receive the ball on the left and then quickly cut in beating a man for a ping at goal. His game totally changed post his injury in 2009/10 though became a playmaker but before that definitely did like to take the first man on albeit cutting inside rather than on the outside with sheer pace ala Kewell, emo, leckie, Kruse.
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+x+x+x+xI'm sure Arnold has recognised it now that Irvine and Hrustic just don't belong as a 6. Way to hectic and panicky when exposed from all sides. O'Neill is calm in that area of the pitch. Hrustic and Irvine are much better when they're able to focus mostly on what's in front of them and not be made nervous from behind. I watched the replay of Friday's Ecuador v Aus with a number of current and former senior NPL players I've coached. All of us agreed that Hrustic is, sadly, quite a dumb player, who makes a lot of poor decisions, and makes slow, wrong decisions. At the same time Hrustic is one of our most skilful players with the ball at his feet. After Irvine excelled in his first game as Attacking Mid, or Ten, for most of the game, and O'Neill's superb display as the number 6, who screens the defence, and who can also compensate for Mooy's weakness getting to loose ball contests, and lack of nimbleness - Hrustic goes way down the pecking order as number Ten after Irvine, (even the classy glimpses we saw of Robertson's cameo), Rogic and the ever improving McGree. Hrustic is also a lazy defender when the other team has the ball. He will struggle to be selected if all players are fit. O'Neill is a superior DM , 6, or midfield screener, better than anyone else we have ATM. This enables Irvine to play in a more advanced position. I just hope O'Neill does not inexplicably fade out. While Irvine was wonderful in his role as the attacking midfieder or No 10, like Cahill, he plays like Cahill, there is not a lot of creativity, industrial yes, lots of running & getting in the right positions, but he aint creating a lot, without Mooy, Hrustic, there was little creativity coming from our midfield 3 until Robertson came on. Irvine is a running no 8, but not a no 10. I respectfully disagree, Robbos. For the first time I can remember, Irvine showed what he can do as a Ten, or Attacking Mid. Given the emergence of O'Neill, a classic midfield screener, Irvine showed his late runs and penalty box predation are more valuable to the team than having him playing a deeper role, or more of a box to box midfielder. There was some terrific combination play amongst Irvine, Duke and Goodwin, plus Behich too - on a number of occasions. These guys have some nice synergy. Guys like Leckie, Mabil and Hrustic, even Rogic, never really combine as cohesively with fellow attacking players. I'm not disagreeing that he has late runs into the box that is very Cahill like & his combination with Duke & Goodwin was brilliant. He had a great game. My point being that Irvine plus Baccus & O'Neil, there is not a lot of creativity & hence why we didn't have the possession Reminded me very much of the Liverpool midfield, lots of energy & hard running, great cohesion, but when team parks the bus, not much attacking flair to break them down. You can see when Robertson came on, especially with Kuol & Tilio out wide the creativity was much stronger..
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