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Arnold contradiction though. 'Most important thing is form' Tilio is talented but hasn't been playing.
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Yazbek is a fit footballer so I'm ok he's there. Still, Robertson is one I'd start against Uzbekistan to really see how he goes. He does it every week for Portsmouth and I reckon there's some real magic there.

Question was asked about Circati and Robertson and Arnold stated 'It gives us a better chance to get them for Olympics rather than having them miss lots of competitive football. We'll be rewarded in 6 months.' Sucks but smart.
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The midfield is very very weak 
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What a horror 12 months for Garang Kuol. 

Goes from playing minutes at a world cup to missing out on Asian cup squad entirely. 

Concerning. 
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'Leckie should avoid the stress of a fitness race and be ready for March'

By no means are we retiring him but please don't revert back if the young guns kick on. God it feels good to not see Maclaren there and these other strikers for a change.
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tsf - 22 Dec 2023 10:15 AM
The midfield is very very weak 

Is it? See it as our strength...

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johnszasz - 22 Dec 2023 9:58 AM
Squad is in

Ryan Gauci Thomas

Atkinson Miller Jones Souttar Burgess Rowles Deng Behich Bos

Irvine O'Neill Baccus Metcalfe McGree Yazbek

Boyle Goodwin Tilio Silvera Yengi Duke Fornaroli Iredale

Arnold
"Lawrence has been the best goalkeeper in the A-League for the last 2 years"
go to the press conference. Tells you all about Redmayne and Glover

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Proud2BeCanberran - 22 Dec 2023 10:20 AM
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Is it? See it as our strength...

They might run of petrol but I think we could see a back 3 on occasion then a single 6 and Metcalfe a bit further ahead and Atkinson and Bos coming in a bit narrower to help at times. 

I still don't entirely get why we've picked so many defenders. Adding Nisbet, Hollman, Nieuwenhof or Teague would be reassuring.
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‘Selecting Tilio can help his career at celtic’ WTF?! His current club form should be to help the Socceroos- not the other way round. Irankunda, G Kuol, Arzani deserve it way more
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Paul01 - 22 Dec 2023 10:24 AM
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Arnold
"Lawrence has been the best goalkeeper in the A-League for the last 2 years"
go to the press conference. Tells you all about Redmayne and Glover

He's got to be careful with these statements. I know he's got a top rapport with he current leadership group but we thought that with Ange and I think he lost the dressing room when he went to play a back 3 and picked players who weren't playing at their club.

I just hope the new additions aren't Elder or Dougall cases who don't fit so well to the group. It's interesting with those two. They join and bring so much club and professional experience that they're not exactly fresh in a hierarchical sense. Perhaps the original batch also felt a bit threatened.
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Squidley - 22 Dec 2023 10:16 AM
What a horror 12 months for Garang Kuol. 

Goes from playing minutes at a world cup to missing out on Asian cup squad entirely. 

Concerning. 

I guess it could be worse with zero minutes and an injury. He's played somewhat and scored. A downgrade but time is on his side.
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Creativity will have to come from Metcalfe and McGree and then up top with Silvera and Yengi. Somewhat limited compared to Rogic, Luongo and Mooy.
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We look a bit light on at 10. Will McGree even be fit and ready? Other than him I guess it would be Mercalfe. Luongo is not a 10 so his withdrawal doesn't hurt regarding this. I agree Robertson seems very promising, One for later.
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My 11 for India

                      Gauci
Atkinson  Souttar Rowles Behich
               Irvine  Baccus
     Silvera   Metcalfe  Bos
                 Iredale

Save Duke, Boyle, Goodwin and Burgess among others for the tougher Syria and Uzbekistan. Silvera does play Championship football. While raw at international level. His club level is miles above India. This is the silly notion England have 'We can't pick him for England' Yeah yet he plays well in the EPL every week which is higher than the level that Slovakia or Finland will offer.
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Balin Trev - 22 Dec 2023 10:27 AM
‘Selecting Tilio can help his career at celtic’ WTF?! His current club form should be to help the Socceroos- not the other way round. Irankunda, G Kuol, Arzani deserve it way more

If you were going to make a decision like that throw a bone to Hrustic. At least he's in an area of need and could be a good impact sub from midfield. 

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Pleased for Bruno in making the squad, the most in form forward we got at the moment even with he's age he's more than deserved he's chance.

Interesting no Robertson or Circati, clearly Arnie is putting he's eggs on his basket for the Olympic qualifying tournament later in the year, Tilio and Yazbek in is interesting assuming there clubs allowed them to go.

John Iredale making the squad is also a great story, im keen to see what he can do what type of striker is he?

Never heard of Jones either, in terms of keepers Lawrence Thomas and Joe Gauci selected but I dont think there clubs will happy if they ridding the pine.



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johnszasz - 22 Dec 2023 10:32 AM
Creativity will have to come from Metcalfe and McGree and then up top with Silvera and Yengi. Somewhat limited compared to Rogic, Luongo and Mooy.

It's really lacking. We had potential options with Luongo (ret.), Robertson (olympics), Hrustic (form), Volpato (ego?) but the stars haven't aligned. McGree will be so important. 
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Balin Trev - 22 Dec 2023 10:27 AM
‘Selecting Tilio can help his career at celtic’ WTF?! His current club form should be to help the Socceroos- not the other way round. Irankunda, G Kuol, Arzani deserve it way more

G. Kuol playing for the worst team in the Eredivisie might have something to do with it, he's young im sure he will have more chances to make Socceroos squad in the future.
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I dont see McGree as the main creative option, it seems the responsibility might fall to someone like Metcalfe as we saw in the last games he was pulling the strings in the final third.
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Proud2BeCanberran - 22 Dec 2023 10:20 AM
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Is it? See it as our strength...

If Irvine is having a bad game I’m not sure who will pick up the slack. 

Don’t think the others are consistent enough 

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Who are the AL based no. 10 options? Brimmer, Da Silva ... ? 
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It is ludicrous that tilllio is there. 

Arnie has that wrong. 

Also Davidson? What can the guy do besides absolutely dominate the a league then go overseas and be our only left back overseas playing good standard for two years? 

Overall squad is pretty decent but these are off 

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Jones had occasional whispers but that was 6-7 years ago. I swear he got called up once or was in a training squad. When he went as an ad hoc signing to Carlisle 4 seasons ago his career looked down. It's now been a very solid return for Bolton over multiple seasons. 

Iredale is something of a centre forward with a nose for goal. He's been drifting wider of late and can beat a man. I'd say one weakness is probably his heading on goal. He's very much a clinical finisher. He can move the ball well resulting in secondary assists.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nj1r-ZkqOZE

4:08 the great run goal in the playoff last season.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMb1YFk9HZc

A lot of goals in this video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nj1r-ZkqOZE

Most recent goal against St Pauli

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9l97zpZkfjE

Game of his career this season Düsseldorf away with the secondary assist move, the flick header assist and a penalty. They didn't show the initial one was saved.


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tsf - 22 Dec 2023 11:06 AM
It is ludicrous that tilllio is there. 

Arnie has that wrong. 

Also Davidson? What can the guy do besides absolutely dominate the a league then go overseas and be our only left back overseas playing good standard for two years? 

Overall squad is pretty decent but these are off 

Got to agree with the Tilio comment. I didn't think Davidson dominated in the A League at LB. He was very good in a 3-4-3 at LM at Perth.  However, hasn't Davidson been playing at CB overseas - mainly right CB in a 5-3-2 recently.   
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tsf - 22 Dec 2023 11:06 AM
It is ludicrous that tilllio is there. 

Arnie has that wrong. 

Also Davidson? What can the guy do besides absolutely dominate the a league then go overseas and be our only left back overseas playing good standard for two years? 

Overall squad is pretty decent but these are off 

Deng and Jones are in for versatility so we've got 4 eligible right backs and two who are more of a centre back. We should have added Davidson for Jones then we have a better balance across the back and even more versitility. 

I'm still a bit shocked how thin we've selected in midfield after having years of plenty. CM requires much more stamina than CM so I don't get why we've gone so big at CB but not CM. I think we might see a back 3 and then a single 6 and have two 10s track back and wingbacks come in to help also.
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What are the odds that those left out for Under 23 Cup/Olympic Qualifiers won't be released by their club when the time comes. "But we had a deal..."
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Given the priority that Arnie seems to be placing on the Olympics and qualifying for that, I am wondering if Tilio's selection is to get movement either in him playing at Celtic or a move. He is the only Olympic qualified player selected that I am aware of. How high a regard does Arnie have for his ability to lead us in the Olympics is an interesting question.

Having said that, he is someone who can unblock a packed defense, so it's not all bad that he is in the squad.

Overall quite excited about the Cup. Also, even more excited about the future of our NT with the youngsters that have been left out of the squad that surely will be coming into selection for the qualifiers and the 2026 WC.
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patjennings - 22 Dec 2023 11:29 AM
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Got to agree with the Tilio comment. I didn't think Davidson dominated in the A League at LB. He was very good in a 3-4-3 at LM at Perth.  However, hasn't Davidson been playing at CB overseas - mainly right CB in a 5-3-2 recently.   

At mv he was pretty much the best player and I reckon top 3 in league for that season. 

Still think he has a lot to offer


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Has Arnold got another daughter that Tilio is banging or something? lol wtf thats a kick in the teeth for Kuol.... at least hes played some games.

Have to give O'Neill a proper run so he can build confidence as the tourney moves on. Give him the first few games at 6.

I actually really upset by the Kuol one, I think he could of really used a few weeks training and playing with the socceroos and having another shot at Voldenham when he gets back. Really disappointing. Would of been to be in a good environment and to get an arm around him.
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jas88 - 22 Dec 2023 12:11 PM
Has Arnold got another daughter that Tilio is banging or something? lol wtf thats a kick in the teeth for Kuol.... at least hes played some games.



Yep. When did Tilio last score a senior club goal??!! G Kuol scored a worldie for his club few months ago and playing a lot more senior minutes than Tilio (just 28 minutes in 6 months FFS)
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