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+x+x+x+x+xSouth melbourne is an open shut case to enter straight in, of the remaining teams, I just want heidelberg and preston to get in from Vic. Im not sure the Bergers can raise the funds... hope they do though.. Preston is another lock and Im pretty sure the Knighst also.... Avondale have the moneybags backer but NOTHING else and Im surprised that Brunswick havent announced anything yet. I was assured they had some serious money behind this thing... So far 10 x clubs announced, 9 if MArconi really have withdrawn???? Of the rest I would expect/hope to hear announcements from: Adelaide City Brisbane City Brisbane United (Wynnum Wolves, Brisbane Strikers, Virginia United) Football South Australia South Hobart Sutherland Sharks With Avondale or Brunswick it's hard to see them getting the fans....Brunswick have fractured clubs and animosity after the split so not like the now Zebras will support them. But I guess just a low risk, with money will talk? I cannot see the Knights getting past the accountants risk assessment at all. Why not mate? I would say they have a very strong financial equity position just from the value of the land they are on. Just like days of old they will become the Melbourne/Victorian Croatian community's "main" national club and memberships and money can start rolling in again.... These clubs just need to attract 3,000- 5,000 crowds to home games and they will be OK in my thinking... Dont forget the Knights have been garbage on the pitch for almost 20 years now, In fact if they get to the GF I think this may be their first final in the NPL era.. If its a South v Knights GF like most of us are hoping the turnout will be 7,000 - 10,000 easily .... great way to cap off the "end of an era" for both of these clubs and a good kickoff for better days to come..... Obviously a well-run, well-supported and hugely successful club over time who have contributed massively to Aus football. But things like that recent investigative piece by The Age - will work against them. Why would the accountant types take the risk in their eyes? Even a sniff of risk of bad press and they won't bother. TBH, I reckon MV would be pushing sh1t up a hill to get in if they were an NPL club applying now. Mate, accountant types, at least in my experience, are pretty dry, boring dollars and cents kind of people... No such thing as "bad" press... its just risk v reward.... Look at AFL and NRL, they would have lost the mainstream public's interest decades ago if it wasnt for the constant soap opera of their scandals hitting the front and back pages... Melbourne is, as you know, an AFL mad town but I bet more people know someone like Wayne Carey screwed his best mates wife and got busted with drugs at the casino than how many goals he kicked in his career....
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I hear what your saying from the logical pov tsf especially today's medias beat ups but what does it say in that case re SU58, so far so good with their submission. The only reason MK or SU getting knocked back will be politics and bitters adding to the fire through SM/Insta more than anything and thats wrong imo.
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+xI hear what your saying from the logical pov tsf especially today's medias beat ups but what does it say in that case re SU58, so far so good with their submission. The only reason MK or SU getting knocked back will be politics and bitters adding to the fire through SM/Insta more than anything and thats wrong imo. Those little e-bitches wouldnt go watch a real club anyway mate... They are just reacting as they have been taught. What they dont realise is that their over the top "outrage" is actually creating more curiosity. Watch how many former Aleague fans decide to "go slumming it in the NST' once this thing kicks off. Especially whilst the APL continues its "us vs them" division.....
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+x+x+x+x+x+xSouth melbourne is an open shut case to enter straight in, of the remaining teams, I just want heidelberg and preston to get in from Vic. Im not sure the Bergers can raise the funds... hope they do though.. Preston is another lock and Im pretty sure the Knighst also.... Avondale have the moneybags backer but NOTHING else and Im surprised that Brunswick havent announced anything yet. I was assured they had some serious money behind this thing... So far 10 x clubs announced, 9 if MArconi really have withdrawn???? Of the rest I would expect/hope to hear announcements from: Adelaide City Brisbane City Brisbane United (Wynnum Wolves, Brisbane Strikers, Virginia United) Football South Australia South Hobart Sutherland Sharks With Avondale or Brunswick it's hard to see them getting the fans....Brunswick have fractured clubs and animosity after the split so not like the now Zebras will support them. But I guess just a low risk, with money will talk? I cannot see the Knights getting past the accountants risk assessment at all. Why not mate? I would say they have a very strong financial equity position just from the value of the land they are on. Just like days of old they will become the Melbourne/Victorian Croatian community's "main" national club and memberships and money can start rolling in again.... These clubs just need to attract 3,000- 5,000 crowds to home games and they will be OK in my thinking... Dont forget the Knights have been garbage on the pitch for almost 20 years now, In fact if they get to the GF I think this may be their first final in the NPL era.. If its a South v Knights GF like most of us are hoping the turnout will be 7,000 - 10,000 easily .... great way to cap off the "end of an era" for both of these clubs and a good kickoff for better days to come..... Obviously a well-run, well-supported and hugely successful club over time who have contributed massively to Aus football. But things like that recent investigative piece by The Age - will work against them. Why would the accountant types take the risk in their eyes? Even a sniff of risk of bad press and they won't bother. TBH, I reckon MV would be pushing sh1t up a hill to get in if they were an NPL club applying now. Mate, accountant types, at least in my experience, are pretty dry, boring dollars and cents kind of people... No such thing as "bad" press... its just risk v reward.... Look at AFL and NRL, they would have lost the mainstream public's interest decades ago if it wasnt for the constant soap opera of their scandals hitting the front and back pages... Melbourne is, as you know, an AFL mad town but I bet more people know someone like Wayne Carey screwed his best mates wife and got busted with drugs at the casino than how many goals he kicked in his career.... hahaha spot on and as you know I don't follow that game but I recall of Careys backdoor skill know f all about his game on the pitch. How many people turned the eye/forgave on the countless Tiger behind the scenes games, I for one did.
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Given the recent reporting/incidents for Melbourne Knights and Sydney United, it would be interesting to see what the ‘risk’ assessment includes. Financially they are likely both fine, but if there are other risk factors to be assessed this will be hard to overcome. For the other confirmed Victorian bids: - South Melbourne: a certain starter. Don’t think anyone could think otherwise given what they can offer. - Avondale: they seem to be a club with big ambition and money behind them, but fan base is limited and their stadium - if playing at Avenger Park - will need significant work (I.e. improved lighting, stands, broadcasting facilities)
- Preston: have turned things around significantly since it’s darker days only a decade or so ago. Very solid supporter base and plans for further stadium redevelopment.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+xSouth melbourne is an open shut case to enter straight in, of the remaining teams, I just want heidelberg and preston to get in from Vic. Im not sure the Bergers can raise the funds... hope they do though.. Preston is another lock and Im pretty sure the Knighst also.... Avondale have the moneybags backer but NOTHING else and Im surprised that Brunswick havent announced anything yet. I was assured they had some serious money behind this thing... So far 10 x clubs announced, 9 if MArconi really have withdrawn???? Of the rest I would expect/hope to hear announcements from: Adelaide City Brisbane City Brisbane United (Wynnum Wolves, Brisbane Strikers, Virginia United) Football South Australia South Hobart Sutherland Sharks With Avondale or Brunswick it's hard to see them getting the fans....Brunswick have fractured clubs and animosity after the split so not like the now Zebras will support them. But I guess just a low risk, with money will talk? I cannot see the Knights getting past the accountants risk assessment at all. Why not mate? I would say they have a very strong financial equity position just from the value of the land they are on. Just like days of old they will become the Melbourne/Victorian Croatian community's "main" national club and memberships and money can start rolling in again.... These clubs just need to attract 3,000- 5,000 crowds to home games and they will be OK in my thinking... Dont forget the Knights have been garbage on the pitch for almost 20 years now, In fact if they get to the GF I think this may be their first final in the NPL era.. If its a South v Knights GF like most of us are hoping the turnout will be 7,000 - 10,000 easily .... great way to cap off the "end of an era" for both of these clubs and a good kickoff for better days to come..... Obviously a well-run, well-supported and hugely successful club over time who have contributed massively to Aus football. But things like that recent investigative piece by The Age - will work against them. Why would the accountant types take the risk in their eyes? Even a sniff of risk of bad press and they won't bother. TBH, I reckon MV would be pushing sh1t up a hill to get in if they were an NPL club applying now. Mate, accountant types, at least in my experience, are pretty dry, boring dollars and cents kind of people... No such thing as "bad" press... its just risk v reward.... Look at AFL and NRL, they would have lost the mainstream public's interest decades ago if it wasnt for the constant soap opera of their scandals hitting the front and back pages... Melbourne is, as you know, an AFL mad town but I bet more people know someone like Wayne Carey screwed his best mates wife and got busted with drugs at the casino than how many goals he kicked in his career.... hahaha spot on and as you know I don't follow that game but I recall of Careys backdoor skill know f all about his game on the pitch. How many people turned the eye/forgave on the countless Tiger behind the scenes games, I for one did. Everyone loves to hate the "bad guy" mate..... Some little virgin plastic calling SU58 fans Nazis. over and over and over again on social media is just making 99% of the population who wouldn't have a clue about soccer in the first place, let alone what SU58 is, aware that there is a club everyone "should" hate..... Thats will get more fans in the door to cheer on Marconi, or Olympic or APIA...... Some of the biggest clubs in the world are the "hated" ones.
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+x- Avondale: they seem to be a club with big ambition and money behind them, but fan base is limited and their stadium - if playing at Avenger Park - will need significant work (I.e. improved lighting, stands, broadcasting facilities)
The only thing in the Evaluation criteria related to the stadium is
- A strong vision for game day presentation including community engagement and venue experience.
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+xGiven the recent reporting/incidents for Melbourne Knights and Sydney United, it would be interesting to see what the ‘risk’ assessment includes. Financially they are likely both fine, but if there are other risk factors to be assessed this will be hard to overcome. For the other confirmed Victorian bids: - South Melbourne: a certain starter. Don’t think anyone could think otherwise given what they can offer. - Avondale: they seem to be a club with big ambition and money behind them, but fan base is limited and their stadium - if playing at Avenger Park - will need significant work (I.e. improved lighting, stands, broadcasting facilities)
- Preston: have turned things around significantly since it’s darker days only a decade or so ago. Very solid supporter base and plans for further stadium redevelopment.
yer but seriously, think of any sport that has had those small % of fans make headlines what Club or entity has been banned or shut out of their comps ? You can hardly pick any out of the top of your head unless you dig through google I suppose but the main and only time Clubs have been punished and demoted is due to money laundering. So this ongoing beat up in this country over the few bad apples towards the ol ethnic clubs is pathetic, its also been endoctranated since the AL enception and the newbie/younger gen jumped on the band wagon and have relied on wiki for info and follow the media bait and paint all the same, should apply to MV and bucket man, the countless RBB/Cove etcetc issues - its all been done before and today. People need to move on and accpet there are DH's everywhere at times, deal with it and move on.
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Lawries got yet another name for it
June 23rd :- “I have just been notified that we have received an email from Football Australia containing the application form, terms and conditions for participation in the new National Football Championship…” McKinna said
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South Hobart announced on their FB page they have applied for NSD
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+xSouth Hobart announced on their FB page they have applied for NSD Great news, I am hearing that Canberra Croatia is also done....... a couple more QLD and a 1-2 SA ones and I reckon we are good to go :)
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+x+x- Avondale: they seem to be a club with big ambition and money behind them, but fan base is limited and their stadium - if playing at Avenger Park - will need significant work (I.e. improved lighting, stands, broadcasting facilities)
The only thing in the Evaluation criteria related to the stadium is
- A strong vision for game day presentation including community engagement and venue experience.
Well I was there 3 weeks ago .... Venue experience was absolutely crap. In fact there is complaints from FFV that the ground isnt suitable for the Semi final of the NPL VIC, had to bring their game to early afternoon ioncase it gets too dark and they dont have lights..... FFS.
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+x+xSouth Hobart announced on their FB page they have applied for NSD Great news, I am hearing that Canberra Croatia is also done....... a couple more QLD and a 1-2 SA ones and I reckon we are good to go :) done as in accepted or declined?
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+x+x+xSouth Hobart announced on their FB page they have applied for NSD Great news, I am hearing that Canberra Croatia is also done....... a couple more QLD and a 1-2 SA ones and I reckon we are good to go :) done as in accepted or declined? As in bid submitted :)
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+xno official announcement from the following 14 clubs, Adelaide City Brisbane City Brisbane United (Wynnum Wolves, Brisbane Strikers, Virginia United) Brunswick Juventus Canberra Croatia Football South Australia Fraser Park Green Gully Cavaliers Gungahlin United Heidelberg United Melbourne Knights Rockdale Illinden South Hobart Sutherland Sharks source - Neal Symons (NPL VIC match commentator). I know some of this list of unconfirmed have bid now, but from this list I would be: Devastated if they don't bid Adelaide City Brisbane United (Strikers) Disappointed if they don't bid Sutherland Sharks Melbourne Knights Not really fussed Brisbane City South Hobart Rockdale Green Gully Heideberg Couldn't give a flying fuck Gungahlin United Canberra Croatia Fraser Park Football SA Crows knock off Brunswick
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+x+x+x+xSouth Hobart announced on their FB page they have applied for NSD Great news, I am hearing that Canberra Croatia is also done....... a couple more QLD and a 1-2 SA ones and I reckon we are good to go :) done as in accepted or declined? As in bid submitted :) Canberra gets us to 12. Would love there to be over sixteen so even after culling we are a chance for sixteen
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+x+xno official announcement from the following 14 clubs, Adelaide City Brisbane City Brisbane United (Wynnum Wolves, Brisbane Strikers, Virginia United) Brunswick Juventus Canberra Croatia Football South Australia Fraser Park Green Gully Cavaliers Gungahlin United Heidelberg United Melbourne Knights Rockdale Illinden South Hobart Sutherland Sharks source - Neal Symons (NPL VIC match commentator). I know some of this list of unconfirmed have bid now, but from this list I would be: Devastated if they don't bid Adelaide City Brisbane United (Strikers) Disappointed if they don't bid Sutherland Sharks Melbourne Knights Not really fussed Brisbane City South Hobart Rockdale Green Gully Heideberg Couldn't give a flying fuck Gungahlin United Canberra Croatia Fraser Park Football SA Crows knock off Brunswick Agree with this list, although I would be mildly disappointed if Heidelberg didn't bid. The Greek derby is a great fixture and they seem to be one of the more together clubs in NPL-land. Also, Melbourne Knights and South Hobart have now confirmed their bids. So we have a minimum of 11 bids submitted and are over the 10-club threshold, hooray!
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+x+x+xno official announcement from the following 14 clubs, Adelaide City Brisbane City Brisbane United (Wynnum Wolves, Brisbane Strikers, Virginia United) Brunswick Juventus Canberra Croatia Football South Australia Fraser Park Green Gully Cavaliers Gungahlin United Heidelberg United Melbourne Knights Rockdale Illinden South Hobart Sutherland Sharks source - Neal Symons (NPL VIC match commentator). I know some of this list of unconfirmed have bid now, but from this list I would be: Devastated if they don't bid Adelaide City Brisbane United (Strikers) Disappointed if they don't bid Sutherland Sharks Melbourne Knights Not really fussed Brisbane City South Hobart Rockdale Green Gully Heideberg Couldn't give a flying fuck Gungahlin United Canberra Croatia Fraser Park Football SA Crows knock off Brunswick Agree with this list, although I would be mildly disappointed if Heidelberg didn't bid. The Greek derby is a great fixture and they seem to be one of the more together clubs in NPL-land. Also, Melbourne Knights and South Hobart have now confirmed their bids. So we have a minimum of 11 bids submitted and are over the 10-club threshold, hooray! I agree, would love to see the Bergers in. As much as I shit on them, its done through rivalry and respect. The Greek Derby has been a going on for 60 odd years and still means as much today as it did in the 1960's. Just look at this year, they finished mid table and had a shocking, for them, season yet beat South both home and away so, according to their fans, season was a great success......
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+x+xno official announcement from the following 14 clubs, Adelaide City Brisbane City Brisbane United (Wynnum Wolves, Brisbane Strikers, Virginia United) Brunswick Juventus Canberra Croatia Football South Australia Fraser Park Green Gully Cavaliers Gungahlin United Heidelberg United Melbourne Knights Rockdale Illinden South Hobart Sutherland Sharks source - Neal Symons (NPL VIC match commentator). I know some of this list of unconfirmed have bid now, but from this list I would be: Devastated if they don't bid Adelaide City Brisbane United (Strikers) Disappointed if they don't bid Sutherland Sharks Melbourne Knights Not really fussed Brisbane City South Hobart Rockdale Green Gully Heideberg Couldn't give a flying fuck Gungahlin United Canberra Croatia Fraser Park Football SA Crows knock off Brunswick Agree with these Juve and Strikers(even in a combined bid) would be awesome..... so want them to bid. So far, my group of die-hards have agreed to away days at APIA Wollongong Marconi Sunshine Coast (or Brisbane ytd) Canberra (whoever) Adelaide (if its Juve only) Plus the Melbourne ones of course. Oh the travels we will do ... can't wait. ... had to promise the wives they can tag along with the promise of nice hotels and shopping though :(
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+x+x+xno official announcement from the following 14 clubs, Adelaide City Brisbane City Brisbane United (Wynnum Wolves, Brisbane Strikers, Virginia United) Brunswick Juventus Canberra Croatia Football South Australia Fraser Park Green Gully Cavaliers Gungahlin United Heidelberg United Melbourne Knights Rockdale Illinden South Hobart Sutherland Sharks source - Neal Symons (NPL VIC match commentator). I know some of this list of unconfirmed have bid now, but from this list I would be: Devastated if they don't bid Adelaide City Brisbane United (Strikers) Disappointed if they don't bid Sutherland Sharks Melbourne Knights Not really fussed Brisbane City South Hobart Rockdale Green Gully Heideberg Couldn't give a flying fuck Gungahlin United Canberra Croatia Fraser Park Football SA Crows knock off Brunswick Agree with this list, although I would be mildly disappointed if Heidelberg didn't bid. The Greek derby is a great fixture and they seem to be one of the more together clubs in NPL-land. Also, Melbourne Knights and South Hobart have now confirmed their bids. So we have a minimum of 11 bids submitted and are over the 10-club threshold, hooray! Was thinking about Heidelberg to bump them up a category. Good memories of them when I was a kid. They appear to be on a good wicket at their ground and are aspirational. I dunno, for me it's just that the memories are quite long ago but I agree it's a good derby. their lack of noise about a bid probably swayed me the other way. Yeah, I'd like them in.
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+x+x+x+x+xSouth melbourne is an open shut case to enter straight in, of the remaining teams, I just want heidelberg and preston to get in from Vic. Im not sure the Bergers can raise the funds... hope they do though.. Preston is another lock and Im pretty sure the Knighst also.... Avondale have the moneybags backer but NOTHING else and Im surprised that Brunswick havent announced anything yet. I was assured they had some serious money behind this thing... So far 10 x clubs announced, 9 if MArconi really have withdrawn???? Of the rest I would expect/hope to hear announcements from: Adelaide City Brisbane City Brisbane United (Wynnum Wolves, Brisbane Strikers, Virginia United) Football South Australia South Hobart Sutherland Sharks With Avondale or Brunswick it's hard to see them getting the fans....Brunswick have fractured clubs and animosity after the split so not like the now Zebras will support them. But I guess just a low risk, with money will talk? I cannot see the Knights getting past the accountants risk assessment at all. Why not mate? I would say they have a very strong financial equity position just from the value of the land they are on. Just like days of old they will become the Melbourne/Victorian Croatian community's "main" national club and memberships and money can start rolling in again.... These clubs just need to attract 3,000- 5,000 crowds to home games and they will be OK in my thinking... Dont forget the Knights have been garbage on the pitch for almost 20 years now, In fact if they get to the GF I think this may be their first final in the NPL era.. If its a South v Knights GF like most of us are hoping the turnout will be 7,000 - 10,000 easily .... great way to cap off the "end of an era" for both of these clubs and a good kickoff for better days to come..... Obviously a well-run, well-supported and hugely successful club over time who have contributed massively to Aus football. But things like that recent investigative piece by The Age - will work against them. Why would the accountant types take the risk in their eyes? Even a sniff of risk of bad press and they won't bother. TBH, I reckon MV would be pushing sh1t up a hill to get in if they were an NPL club applying now. The risk aspect is underestimated by many here and is a very good point you raised. I'm sure the FA will have their finger on the pulse with this.
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+x+x+x+x+x+xSouth melbourne is an open shut case to enter straight in, of the remaining teams, I just want heidelberg and preston to get in from Vic. Im not sure the Bergers can raise the funds... hope they do though.. Preston is another lock and Im pretty sure the Knighst also.... Avondale have the moneybags backer but NOTHING else and Im surprised that Brunswick havent announced anything yet. I was assured they had some serious money behind this thing... So far 10 x clubs announced, 9 if MArconi really have withdrawn???? Of the rest I would expect/hope to hear announcements from: Adelaide City Brisbane City Brisbane United (Wynnum Wolves, Brisbane Strikers, Virginia United) Football South Australia South Hobart Sutherland Sharks With Avondale or Brunswick it's hard to see them getting the fans....Brunswick have fractured clubs and animosity after the split so not like the now Zebras will support them. But I guess just a low risk, with money will talk? I cannot see the Knights getting past the accountants risk assessment at all. Why not mate? I would say they have a very strong financial equity position just from the value of the land they are on. Just like days of old they will become the Melbourne/Victorian Croatian community's "main" national club and memberships and money can start rolling in again.... These clubs just need to attract 3,000- 5,000 crowds to home games and they will be OK in my thinking... Dont forget the Knights have been garbage on the pitch for almost 20 years now, In fact if they get to the GF I think this may be their first final in the NPL era.. If its a South v Knights GF like most of us are hoping the turnout will be 7,000 - 10,000 easily .... great way to cap off the "end of an era" for both of these clubs and a good kickoff for better days to come..... Obviously a well-run, well-supported and hugely successful club over time who have contributed massively to Aus football. But things like that recent investigative piece by The Age - will work against them. Why would the accountant types take the risk in their eyes? Even a sniff of risk of bad press and they won't bother. TBH, I reckon MV would be pushing sh1t up a hill to get in if they were an NPL club applying now. The risk aspect is underestimated by many here and is a very good point you raised. I'm sure the FA will have their finger on the pulse with this. We definitely need many more bids than the minimum ten so that the risk assessment doesn't knock us below ten
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+x+x+x+x+x+xLet's hope it doesn't go the Champions League route as it only diminishes the competition from being a proper 2nd division or B league. A 3rd tier league would also make it more palatable for not having full professionalism, which is what will likely happen and degrade the status and quality. A failure if so. Football Australia has appointed BDO, globally recognised accounting
Even this FA appears to like consultants.........lol 7 of the 9 confirmed bids so far are effnik sokkah kulcha clubs, plenty palatable I would say Paulie :) That means absolutely nothing, Con. I'm glad you're here, because it always means progress is being made and we're building something. That's good. I'm happy to see some people here excited, although nothing has happened yet despite 6 years in the planning. Plenty has happened in the past 5 years unlike a certain promised Aleague stadium Paulie..... Discussions on the NSD was well in train by the FFA in 2016. Eventually, a schedule like this was generated. If start of the comp is now 5 years late (maybe more) and you see that as great progress, pity. PROPOSED TIMELINE| 1 December 2017 | AAFC calls for expression of interest from clubs interest in participation in The Championship | | 2 February 2018 | Expressions of interest close | | 2 March 2018 | FFA endorsement required | | 29 March 2018 | The Championship Bid document made available on payment of $10,000 fee | | 25 May 2018 | Bids close | | May to July 2018 | Bids assessed by Nous Group | | August 2018 | Nous Group report to AAFC Board | | September 2018 | Successful bidders notified | | October 2018 | Licenses issued | | October 2019 | Start of The
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+xSouth melbourne is an open shut case to enter straight in, of the remaining teams, I just want heidelberg and preston to get in from Vic. Im not sure the Bergers can raise the funds... hope they do though.. Preston is another lock and Im pretty sure the Knighst also.... Avondale have the moneybags backer but NOTHING else and Im surprised that Brunswick havent announced anything yet. I was assured they had some serious money behind this thing... So far 10 x clubs announced, 9 if MArconi really have withdrawn???? Of the rest I would expect/hope to hear announcements from: Adelaide City Brisbane City Brisbane United (Wynnum Wolves, Brisbane Strikers, Virginia United) Football South Australia South Hobart Sutherland Sharks With Avondale or Brunswick it's hard to see them getting the fans....Brunswick have fractured clubs and animosity after the split so not like the now Zebras will support them. But I guess just a low risk, with money will talk? I cannot see the Knights getting past the accountants risk assessment at all. Why not mate? I would say they have a very strong financial equity position just from the value of the land they are on. Just like days of old they will become the Melbourne/Victorian Croatian community's "main" national club and memberships and money can start rolling in again.... These clubs just need to attract 3,000- 5,000 crowds to home games and they will be OK in my thinking... Dont forget the Knights have been garbage on the pitch for almost 20 years now, In fact if they get to the GF I think this may be their first final in the NPL era.. If its a South v Knights GF like most of us are hoping the turnout will be 7,000 - 10,000 easily .... great way to cap off the "end of an era" for both of these clubs and a good kickoff for better days to come..... Obviously a well-run, well-supported and hugely successful club over time who have contributed massively to Aus football. But things like that recent investigative piece by The Age - will work against them. Why would the accountant types take the risk in their eyes? Even a sniff of risk of bad press and they won't bother. TBH, I reckon MV would be pushing sh1t up a hill to get in if they were an NPL club applying now. The risk aspect is underestimated by many here and is a very good point you raised. I'm sure the FA will have their finger on the pulse with this. We definitely need many more bids than the minimum ten so that the risk assessment doesn't knock us below ten Hopefully more bids will include a better geographical representation with the inclusion of diverse clubs, which is good for minimizing the baggage and reducing risk.
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+xGiven the recent reporting/incidents for Melbourne Knights and Sydney United, it would be interesting to see what the ‘risk’ assessment includes. Financially they are likely both fine, but if there are other risk factors to be assessed this will be hard to overcome. For the other confirmed Victorian bids: - South Melbourne: a certain starter. Don’t think anyone could think otherwise given what they can offer. - Avondale: they seem to be a club with big ambition and money behind them, but fan base is limited and their stadium - if playing at Avenger Park - will need significant work (I.e. improved lighting, stands, broadcasting facilities)
- Preston: have turned things around significantly since it’s darker days only a decade or so ago. Very solid supporter base and plans for further stadium redevelopment.
Would imagine that Avondale would play temporarily at another venue, such as CB Smith or Epping Stadium. What are the other plans for Prestons stadium?
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+x+xGiven the recent reporting/incidents for Melbourne Knights and Sydney United, it would be interesting to see what the ‘risk’ assessment includes. Financially they are likely both fine, but if there are other risk factors to be assessed this will be hard to overcome. For the other confirmed Victorian bids: - South Melbourne: a certain starter. Don’t think anyone could think otherwise given what they can offer. - Avondale: they seem to be a club with big ambition and money behind them, but fan base is limited and their stadium - if playing at Avenger Park - will need significant work (I.e. improved lighting, stands, broadcasting facilities)
- Preston: have turned things around significantly since it’s darker days only a decade or so ago. Very solid supporter base and plans for further stadium redevelopment.
Would imagine that Avondale would play temporarily at another venue, such as CB Smith or Epping Stadium. What are the other plans for Prestons stadium? Preston have plans to build a new stand on the western side of the main pitch. This comes after the construction of their pavilion in the past year. The council have seemingly been very supportive of the club which is good to see.
As for Avondale, I wouldn’t write off them developing Avenger Park. If the league was to start in 2024, this would give them time to go through that process, which may already be outlined in their bid document.
Playing at a venue like CB Smith or Epping would be a long way from what limited fan base they already have. If anything, maybe some arrangement can be found with Melbourne Knights to play in North Sunshine, but not sure how that relationship is these days.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+xLet's hope it doesn't go the Champions League route as it only diminishes the competition from being a proper 2nd division or B league. A 3rd tier league would also make it more palatable for not having full professionalism, which is what will likely happen and degrade the status and quality. A failure if so. Football Australia has appointed BDO, globally recognised accounting
Even this FA appears to like consultants.........lol 7 of the 9 confirmed bids so far are effnik sokkah kulcha clubs, plenty palatable I would say Paulie :) That means absolutely nothing, Con. I'm glad you're here, because it always means progress is being made and we're building something. That's good. I'm happy to see some people here excited, although nothing has happened yet despite 6 years in the planning. Plenty has happened in the past 5 years unlike a certain promised Aleague stadium Paulie..... Discussions on the NSD was well in train by the FFA in 2016. Eventually, a schedule like this was generated. If start of the comp is now 5 years late (maybe more) and you see that as great progress, pity. PROPOSED TIMELINE| 1 December 2017 | AAFC calls for expression of interest from clubs interest in participation in The Championship | | 2 February 2018 | Expressions of interest close | | 2 March 2018 | FFA endorsement required | | 29 March 2018 | The Championship Bid document made available on payment of $10,000 fee | | 25 May 2018 | Bids close | | May to July 2018 | Bids assessed by Nous Group | | August 2018 | Nous Group report to AAFC Board | | September 2018 | Successful bidders notified | | October 2018 | Licenses issued | | October 2019 | Start of The
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