NST Phase 3 - Assessment and recommendation


NST Phase 3 - Assessment and recommendation

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PGR - 29 Aug 2023 6:16 PM
Monoethnic Social Club - 29 Aug 2023 4:32 PM

That means absolutely nothing, Con.

I'm glad you're here, because it always means progress is being made and we're building something.

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grazorblade - 29 Aug 2023 6:02 PM
really hope we get 16 from the get go so we can have p and r quickly

If it ends up a CL format that will create little better than a 3rd tier comp, you're very unlikely to get P&R until a proper NST is developed, and then some more.

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Monoethnic Social Club - 29 Aug 2023 4:32 PM
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7 of the 9 confirmed bids so far are effnik sokkah kulcha clubs, plenty palatable I would say Paulie :)

That means absolutely nothing, Con.
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really hope we get 16 from the get go so we can have p and r quickly
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Monoethnic Social Club - 29 Aug 2023 3:58 PM
Squidley - 29 Aug 2023 3:25 PM

CL model was a "backdoor escape clause" mate... in case they couldn't get the numbers... So far 9 clubs have confirmed they have 1/2 million dollar bank guarantees... and rumoured at least 5-6 more... this is going ahead now :)

The CL format idea is there because this is Australian football. If we're not shooting ourselves in the foot, we should at least bloody well look like we might.
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numklpkgulftumch - 29 Aug 2023 4:38 PM
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Fuck, don't set him off.  He seems to be on some better meds

Dont worry, he will change the name again and come back as the "Original" South Hobart Hooligan or something :P
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numklpkgulftumch - 29 Aug 2023 4:37 PM
Monoethnic Social Club - 29 Aug 2023 3:58 PM

You seem to be jumping the 'Assessment' bit

5 minutes after slagging off Avondale

Oh yeah, major assumption on my behalf.... Of course there will be an assessment and I wouldn't be surprised that some bids are found lacking... Thats why Im hoping for 16-18 bids to be whittled down to 14-16... and excited for some of the bids I thought may have baulked at the 500k bank guarantee.

As for Avondale, their current home pitch is 10000% not suitable for NPL let alone NST. I read somewhere that a minimum of 3k seats would be the pre-requisite for an approval of license. (funnily enough that rules WU out of EVER being involved in the NST, they better hope they dont get relegated from the pro- tier. :))   I dont think Avondale has 100 seats in that portable shelter next to the free-way let alone change rooms - unless you count the de-mountables behind their caravan/foodtruck. 
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Monoethnic Social Club - 29 Aug 2023 4:32 PM
PGR - 29 Aug 2023 4:05 PM

7 of the 9 confirmed bids so far are effnik sokkah kulcha clubs, plenty palatable I would say Paulie :)

Fuck, don't set him off.  He seems to be on some better meds
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Monoethnic Social Club - 29 Aug 2023 3:58 PM
Squidley - 29 Aug 2023 3:25 PM

CL model was a "backdoor escape clause" mate... in case they couldn't get the numbers... So far 9 clubs have confirmed they have 1/2 million dollar bank guarantees... and rumoured at least 5-6 more... this is going ahead now :)

You seem to be jumping the 'Assessment' bit

5 minutes after slagging off Avondale
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PGR - 29 Aug 2023 4:05 PM
Let's hope it doesn't go the Champions League route as it only diminishes the competition from being a proper 2nd division or B league. A 3rd tier league would also make it more palatable for not having full professionalism, which is what will likely happen and degrade the status and quality. A failure if so.

Football Australia has appointed BDO, globally recognised accounting 

Even this FA appears to like consultants.........lol

7 of the 9 confirmed bids so far are effnik sokkah kulcha clubs, plenty palatable I would say Paulie :)
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Let's hope it doesn't go the Champions League route as it only diminishes the competition from being a proper 2nd division or B league. A 3rd tier league would also make it more palatable for not having full professionalism, which is what will likely happen and degrade the status and quality. A failure if so.

Football Australia has appointed BDO, globally recognised accounting 

Even this FA appears to like consultants.........lol

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Squidley - 29 Aug 2023 3:25 PM
Just push the whole thing back a year anyway.

Way better option that the champions league model. That stinks.

If Football Vic know that 4 clubs are departing after 2024, they can plan accordingly via Pro/Rel, all the way down the pyramid. 

Don't rush it. Also allows some clubs to improve their infrastructure. 

CL model was a "backdoor escape clause" mate... in case they couldn't get the numbers... So far 9 clubs have confirmed they have 1/2 million dollar bank guarantees... and rumoured at least 5-6 more... this is going ahead now :)
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And then there were 9 - 3 more and weve got a BINGO 

Sydney Olympic

Avondale

Preston Lions

APIA

Marconi

South Melbourne Hellas

Sunshine Coast Fire

Sydney United 58

Wollongong Wolves.




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Add Wollongong to the list. 8 confirmed to the next stage  - South Hobart rumoured
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LFC. - 29 Aug 2023 2:40 PM
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just 2 hahaha

Dont want to be greedy :) hahahahahah
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Just push the whole thing back a year anyway.

Way better option that the champions league model. That stinks.

If Football Vic know that 4 clubs are departing after 2024, they can plan accordingly via Pro/Rel, all the way down the pyramid. 

Don't rush it. Also allows some clubs to improve their infrastructure. 
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Monoethnic Social Club - 29 Aug 2023 2:22 PM

@LFC thats two rounds next year I expect some hospitality at :P Youve been warned . lol

just 2 hahaha


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Beretta - 29 Aug 2023 1:05 PM
Monoethnic Social Club - 29 Aug 2023 12:59 PM

as expected, a Champions league format for 2024 is the likely choice

just don't piss me and so many off JJ talking CL format FFS !!!!
A Cup knock out comp as we all know, damn well give us as you say - "the commitment is to the future of Australian Football" therefore once and for all H/A and soon enough P/R......
It can only be the right way from the beginning, we're in enough trouble having a secluded closed upper level comp.



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someguyjc - 29 Aug 2023 2:23 PM
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More a comment on the the FA's side of things rather than the clubs. Getting some blokes on a field is the easy part. 

fair call.... The clubs, from their side, would be roaring to go straight out of the gate.... Can imagine some phone calls going out in the next few weeks (once NPL and Australia cup done and dusted) to some players/coaches looking to jump on board...... I have already heard a few tidbits about one of our rival clubs players making some overtures to South..... lets see how they play on Friday eh :P
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Monoethnic Social Club - 29 Aug 2023 1:32 PM
someguyjc - 29 Aug 2023 1:05 PM

Why mate? Pre-season for March usually starts around that time for these clubs anyway?

More a comment on the the FA's side of things rather than the clubs. Getting some blokes on a field is the easy part. 
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@LFC thats two rounds next year I expect some hospitality at :P Youve been warned . lol
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Wooo hooo 7 and I heard South Hobart about to announce too....  we are getting there :)
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add Sydney United to that list
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someguyjc - 29 Aug 2023 1:05 PM
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Clicking the link at the bottom also gives an updated process timeline:
The RFP Phase concluded on 28 August. The following subsequent phases are envisaged: Phase 3 – Assessment and Review (August – September indicative), Phase 4 – Completion (September – October indicative).

If they don't finalise until October, I reckon March could be pushed out to May.

Why mate? Pre-season for March usually starts around that time for these clubs anyway?
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Beretta - 29 Aug 2023 1:05 PM
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as expected, a Champions league format for 2024 is the likely choice

All they need is another 6 clubs to put a proper H/A league together.... ... 

Is that maybe why the Cro clubs arent interested, they would rather stay in NPL? Im suprised neither habve announced it yet one way or another, both haver strong scoial meadia presence.... 

Also still waiting to hear from Bergers any QLDrs and Adelaide Juve ......

Brusnwick Juve would be hilarious if they have bid considering they just got relegated to NPL 3.
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numklpkgulftumch - 29 Aug 2023 1:05 PM
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Nigh on impossible I'd say

each individual club would have to lie when asked

and why would any club that has dropped out, bother to not admit it.  They're gonna pretend they are still in just for giggles

The individual clubs can say what ever they want. It's just the FA has made the decision to keep that information private.
I wouldn't be surprised if a few clubs do a bit of pretending to save a bit of face. 
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Beretta - 29 Aug 2023 1:05 PM
Monoethnic Social Club - 29 Aug 2023 12:59 PM

as expected, a Champions league format for 2024 is the likely choice

Then I'd expect a lot more dropouts

AAFC members make up 90% of the RFP phase and they strongly poo-pooed that idea.

They want a league
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Monoethnic Social Club - 29 Aug 2023 12:59 PM
https://www.footballaustralia.com.au/news/football-australia-updates-national-second-tier-process

Given the confidential nature of the RFP process, Football Australia will not disclose the clubs that have made submissions, nor comment on their submissions’ compliance or completeness at this time.

Nigh on impossible I'd say

each individual club would have to lie when asked

and why would any club that has dropped out, bother to not admit it.  They're gonna pretend they are still in just for shits n giggles ?
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Monoethnic Social Club - 29 Aug 2023 12:59 PM
https://www.footballaustralia.com.au/news/football-australia-updates-national-second-tier-process

Given the confidential nature of the RFP process, Football Australia will not disclose the clubs that have made submissions, nor comment on their submissions’ compliance or completeness at this time.

Clicking the link at the bottom also gives an updated process timeline:
The RFP Phase concluded on 28 August. The following subsequent phases are envisaged: Phase 3 – Assessment and Review (August – September indicative), Phase 4 – Completion (September – October indicative).

If they don't finalise until October, I reckon March could be pushed out to May.
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Monoethnic Social Club - 29 Aug 2023 12:59 PM
https://www.footballaustralia.com.au/news/football-australia-updates-national-second-tier-process

Given the confidential nature of the RFP process, Football Australia will not disclose the clubs that have made submissions, nor comment on their submissions’ compliance or completeness at this time.

as expected, a Champions league format for 2024 is the likely choice
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