'Alarm bells': FA vows action on ALM referee abuse [Comments]


'Alarm bells': FA vows action on ALM referee abuse [Comments]

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Monoethnic Social Club - 15 Feb 2024 10:05 AM
Talking to mates yesterday someone pointed out that adding another card to the game is no different than VAR being introduced or the back pass rule or even the fact that yellow and red cards have only been around since 1970... we will adapt and survive.

I also agree with the reasoning around the fact that it seems to be introducing a new method to solve a problem that can be solved using existing facilities..

Something HAS to be done about blatant referee abuse, 100% agree but why not make it clear that ANY dissent of a decision will be punished by a yellow card immediately and try that first before over-reacting with another rule change??? Only the Captain should have the right to speak to the ref about a perceived injustice... If the refs start throwing yellows around in the top leagues for players harassing them the behaviours will surely change???? wont it?

Plenty of people blowing up about blue cards but they've been in place in the Brisbane masters comp for decades and they work just fine. (I played in that comp for nearly 10 years.)

(Page 3 and 4 of this. http://www.brisbanesoccerreferees.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/QMF-Rules-of-Competition-2023.pdf)

There are no yellows though. 2 blues equal a red same as yellows. The thing is every blue card means a 10 minute sin bin. Players can be subbed though which is different from what they're proposing.

To protect old blokes a blue card is also issued for any attempted or actual slide tackle. (Which is also a good rule.)

I realise masters football is not 'normal' football. I'm unsure whether a blue card is a good idea in other comps. I can see the benefit but then I think yellows dished out liberally for dissent would work too.

Saw an article saying if a GK is blue carded they have to be replaced by a GK off the bench or a player on the field. Will cause chaos. But then again it might shut up mouthy keepers.





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Talking to mates yesterday someone pointed out that adding another card to the game is no different than VAR being introduced or the back pass rule or even the fact that yellow and red cards have only been around since 1970... we will adapt and survive.

I also agree with the reasoning around the fact that it seems to be introducing a new method to solve a problem that can be solved using existing facilities..

Something HAS to be done about blatant referee abuse, 100% agree but why not make it clear that ANY dissent of a decision will be punished by a yellow card immediately and try that first before over-reacting with another rule change??? Only the Captain should have the right to speak to the ref about a perceived injustice... If the refs start throwing yellows around in the top leagues for players harassing them the behaviours will surely change???? wont it?
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Coverdale - 14 Feb 2024 6:22 PM
NicCarBel - 14 Feb 2024 4:40 PM

Wow you’re boring and annoying. 

So it’s good for referees, but not for players? Nice, got it.
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NicCarBel - 14 Feb 2024 4:40 PM
sub007 - 14 Feb 2024 3:52 PM

On the pitch, I always combat the low-level abuse (because that's where it starts) by being a smart-arse back to them. Players, or fans, I've done it both ways.

"Lino looks like he's had a few too many Krispy Kremes"
Sorry, leave me some more donuts on halfway next time.

"What the f*** are you doing lino, call the offside straight away, don't wait!"
Oh, your U14s game starts on the next field just after the half time break and they don't have a referee. I'll let them know you're available at half time, thanks!

"Shocking decision ref!"
(5 minutes later, same player decides to take a shot at goal and wildly misses, with another player open through on the edge of the box)
And I thought I made shocking decisions...

Wow you’re boring and annoying. 
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Blokes all over facebook using this announcement as an opportunity to air grievances about refs dudding their clubs.

Morons.

Completely missing the point that they're losing 40% of refs every year and the article is nothing to do with the A league.


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sub007 - 14 Feb 2024 3:52 PM
Paul01 - 14 Feb 2024 5:52 AM

 The abuse and the ridiculous conspiracy theories like this are exactly why the FA have had to make a public statement. So many refs walk away from the game each year because of this.

Want better referees? Create an environment where they feel safe and protected and you’ll have more people refereeing, which grows the talent pool.

On the pitch, I always combat the low-level abuse (because that's where it starts) by being a smart-arse back to them. Players, or fans, I've done it both ways.

"Lino looks like he's had a few too many Krispy Kremes"
Sorry, leave me some more donuts on halfway next time.

"What the f*** are you doing lino, call the offside straight away, don't wait!"
Oh, your U14s game starts on the next field just after the half time break and they don't have a referee. I'll let them know you're available at half time, thanks!

"Shocking decision ref!"
(5 minutes later, same player decides to take a shot at goal and wildly misses, with another player open through on the edge of the box)
And I thought I made shocking decisions...
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Paul01 - 14 Feb 2024 5:52 AM
They need to focus on getting decision right.
Kersey and King failed to red card Davilla for kicking Margush whoch resulted in a a concussion
Kersey and King failed to red card Germain for direct and off the ball contact with Beadlimg's groin.
Failed to ref card Grimaldi for taking out out Brook in the same manner as Simmon's tackle in Hobart.
Don't remember the referee, but Nicolau racked the front of a player's shin and thevreferee/VAR took NO action.

All those years ago, Markus Babbel called the Ben Wilson Referee Cabal for not seeing the the obvious. After returning to Germany he was  on television and called out Australian referees and being inept and biased. 

We now have the non-footballing Director of Referees Nathan McGill running the same Cabal. 

How fix this is bring in overseas referees who have no bias and have grown in the Australian Football Referees Cabal groupthink.
We have 1 referee like that who left his country for non-footballing reasons and he 4 claaes above Kersey and King

 The abuse and the ridiculous conspiracy theories like this are exactly why the FA have had to make a public statement. So many refs walk away from the game each year because of this.

Want better referees? Create an environment where they feel safe and protected and you’ll have more people refereeing, which grows the talent pool.
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They need to focus on getting decision right.
Kersey and King failed to red card Davilla for kicking Margush whoch resulted in a a concussion
Kersey and King failed to red card Germain for direct and off the ball contact with Beadlimg's groin.
Failed to ref card Grimaldi for taking out out Brook in the same manner as Simmon's tackle in Hobart.
Don't remember the referee, but Nicolau racked the front of a player's shin and thevreferee/VAR took NO action.

All those years ago, Markus Babbel called the Ben Wilson Referee Cabal for not seeing the the obvious. After returning to Germany he was  on television and called out Australian referees and being inept and biased. 

We now have the non-footballing Director of Referees Nathan McGill running the same Cabal. 

How fix this is bring in overseas referees who have no bias and have grown in the Australian Football Referees Cabal groupthink.
We have 1 referee like that who left his country for non-footballing reasons and he 4 claaes above Kersey and King
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