Not shit sherlock, obv we need to wait

It's a fair comment. I personally wouldn't claim this group is the best generation since whenever, but I'm excited to see more players at higher levels. 

Calm down Watson ... you started a thread with the presumption that  "Circati's parma now confirmed of promotion and likely Burgess, Luongo, Melcalfe and Irvine also" 5 second division Socceroos will be playing for the same teams next year... all Im saying is dont count the chickens just yet.

My thread I'm implied it's likely to be 5.. as I also mentioned there could be more, could be less but its LIKELY where things currently stand that there will be 5 starters. 

No one said in this thread that "this is the best generation since whenever" just that this will be the highest levels that our national pool has played at for awhile. All of those 5 will be at clubs that will likely struggle for a start, so whilst they are in the top divisions could be at the bottom end of them. Also luongo, metcalfe and Burgess aren't really stars of their sides - I still think Mcgree is our best footballer and yet he plays in a 2nd division. But I think we can all see that our players collectively are going to be playing at higher level next season which was point of the thread. 

I suppose i did say that if 5 starts thats the best since 2009. Though i did say if haha

Point taken fair enough... as for players staying to newly promoted clubs, I hope you are right but history tells us the first thing (most) newly promoted clubs do is go shopping for a striker a winger and two CBs... usually from newly relegated clubs :)

I will be hugely impressed when our young players start getting recruited by clubs already IN the top divisions in Europe....  like they did once upon a time.

Didn't realise we had 3 in the Swiss league? If they are getting game time, that is not a bad league at all. Hadn't even heard of Laws?

Hadn't heard of Trefiletti, Esposito and Pavlesic either?

Where a player plays club football isn't everything. I think Silvera and Genreu have  been  overtaken by younger players , based on performances as national team players.

Also, Burgess is possibly our highest rated CB based on club standing ATM. Conversely, for the Socceroos, other CBs, ostensibly playing in lower ranked clubs IMO have played better as CB and have a superior all round skillset.

Of course there is a degree of subjectivity in football. Opinions vary a lot on players amongst coaches.

The Brian Clough/Peter Taylor coaching combo (possibly the greatest in English history) used to recruit players from lower league clubs, that nobody else thought were  anything special, and have them starring with Derby County or Notts Forest in the EPL.

Agree with you on that, though i think at least circati and irvine are safe. Think prob Burgess will too but not so sure about luongo and metcalfe. 

Re your last point...  If only ey!! Once upon a time Feyenoord (when the Dutch league was stronger too) bought a 21 yr old Emerton directly from the nsl and stuck him straight into the first team winning the uefa Cup a Yr later! Imagine if that happened now, we'd lose our minds on this forum! 

My prediction is burgess either plays most games or very few games, luongo is in a rotation getting 1200 to 1500 minutes, younger players like metcalf and circati in particular should be ok, hard to predict irvine. Since irvine is a goal threat he should be better off than valeri

100%

Interesting look at Ipswich tactics and how they might fare in the EPL:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-6RTKqtB9gU

Sounded promising for our aussie players

Burgess long passing game is reminiscient of burgess strengths

There are 2 with Mabil and Laws but Chipperfield will be promoted I think.