Article on Japan's development system


Article on Japan's development system

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Monoethnic Social Club - 31 May 2024 11:16 AM
Munrubenmuz - 30 May 2024 7:12 PM

Muzzie, Im NOT saying they are producing robots dude... sheeesh. My crack about private school fees was just that, a crack about the fact the soccer, at any level, is too expensive...  not just wog clubs wanting to fleece parents so that they can sit around and eat pumpkin seeds, glorify their foreign ancestors and watch their overpaid players win ethnic battles against their "enemies" here .... 

I didn't say you were saying that. 

I said it makes me laugh when old bitters say the NC is doing nothing but producing robots.


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LFC. - 31 May 2024 4:55 PM

PS. I agree, whoever deleted previous posts be it in another thread or here is WRONG, for I know one of mine vanished as well.


This is extremely worrying.

Decentric on the warpath again?

Cut it out clown.


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Munrubenmuz - 31 May 2024 4:56 PM
grazorblade - 31 May 2024 4:00 PM

True. There wouldn't.

The NC isn't prescriptive in any case.

I wouldn't hesitate to guess that 90% of the embittered old blokes complaining about the NC who bleat endlessly about 'the NC producing robots' have never read the NC.

It's a great resource for any coach, particularly a grassroots noob. Anyone other coach that knows their stuff can use it as a starting point and modify it as they see fit.

Are people suggesting there are NC FA policeman checking every club in Australia for compliance? 

As a grassroots noob i can confirm :D 
I also got much more out of it than the comparable stuff in england

There are zillions of problems in auatralian football, a great resource for teaching coaching probably isnt one of them. Would be brilliant if we had a pathway for school kids that miss out on academies the way japan do
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grazorblade - 31 May 2024 4:00 PM
I mean if you are getting edited, my guess is you are either making it about another poster (why? He hasn't even posted in this thread. Try buying him a drink if you are that obsessed!) or went ad hominen (again why? at most we have exchanged banter. But we also all want football to succeed and I'm guessing we agree on most topics apart from this anyway)


Nobody should be getting edited FULL STOP.

FFS!


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LFC. - 31 May 2024 4:55 PM
NCB interesting your youth experience through your era that I find quite opposite to mine.
Lets go further back, back in my day, I went to a Gov school, we played the Tasman Cup as it was called back then.
There was no issue if you were a Rep player back then.
I can't really recall how many games but that it was but a inter school comp.

My local Club down the road from home was one of the stronger Clubs of the Association those days, 70/80's.
From U10 on you had Dads as gaffas and some were ex players or in the know of the game.
This was Club Div1.
Some of them ended up being Rep coachs through those formative years.
Now our training back then, yep fitness was an objective, we actually started by doing 10laps of the 2oval reserve.
I never minded that for fitness isone key of the game, even running single file last man would sprint to the front and repeat.
We used alot of ball, juggling, trapping, heading practice And shooting prac obviously great for the keeper as well.
Alot of forwards/mids vs the defense/keeper plays - in today called small sided games with purpose looking for a finish !
We played out set plays, corner set plays.
Then there would be a half pitch game to end proceedings, with 2 squads again you could say small sided game for thats 11 or more a side.
Alot of one touch/control/and moving for another hole.
It was on like mad and I luved it, the competition was rife.
I think it showed why we won the comp 5yrs on bounce, 2yrs undefeated, Champions of Champs obviously being Prem winners.
Wow in between the above there was the introduction of the Association 6ASide comp as well.
In amongst the local Club goings on many of us were selected for Rep since about U11/12's onwards.
That was another 2 nights training that my ol man was struggling to make on time those days.
Far more intense training, 1v1, dribbling,ball control,6v6,beat 2 players shoot, back to the goal turn control cross shoot - not much re fitness for most done in Club training.
Rep was great and another level naturally playing all over Sydney.
Therefore compared to your experience I feel mine has similar traits to today but maybe not as polished.
I was in awe of some players I played with, so many imo could have gone way up, ala NSL +, typical of Aus many liked and were good at cricket, or surfing as well and didn't care to go higher.
A problem still to this day living in the Land Of Oz.

PS. I agree, whoever deleted previous posts be it in another thread or here is WRONG, for I know one of mine vanished as well.


I remember 6 aside was introduced to cairns when i was 15 and i played a bit with friends we played on a full court pitch under lights. That was around the turn of the century

It sounds like u had small sided games back then which is good! There was probably quite a bit of variety in training though it does sound like fitness training without a ball was common to both of our experiences. In england they dont have ball free fitness training either, not sure if this was always the case or new. 

The nc does promote getting up to speed with fitness using ball drills, but i suspect this is what everyone does these days?
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grazorblade - 31 May 2024 5:12 PM
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I remember 6 aside was introduced to cairns when i was 15 and i played a bit with friends we played on a full court pitch under lights. That was around the turn of the century

It sounds like u had small sided games back then which is good! There was probably quite a bit of variety in training though it does sound like fitness training without a ball was common to both of our experiences. In england they dont have ball free fitness training either, not sure if this was always the case or new. 

The nc does promote getting up to speed with fitness using ball drills, but i suspect this is what everyone does these days?

Eh, I can't quote across two pages - so will just respond to Grazor's

Yeah, I'm in a weird spot where I only played organised games from U13s (2004) through to a couple years open age (2010), across two different clubs in Griffith.
The first club (13-15), training was very ball skills focused. Warm up laps around the oval etc, yes - but always with a ball. Passing drills, dribbling drills, game situation drills.

When I moved clubs at U16 level (stayed with them until I moved to Canberra), there was a much more fitness and conditioning approach to the beginning of training. 10 laps with staggered jog/sprint/walk sections. I actually rate that even now, as it did help with match-fitness through the seasons. I remember after the first couple training sessions (because I was one of the couple fattys) I could hardly even last a lap or two. By the end of the season, the 10 laps actually felt like a warm-up.
After that though, training was much like at the other club, dribbling and passing drills, then game situations. Sometimes followed up by small sided games.
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Fitness training was the means of warming up first 10/15 before getting onto ball work that compeletely makes sense.
Warming up today pre game is small sided one touch, we've been doing that for years as well as warming up the GK and shooting.
I'd say for all the ol days was fitness training for a while - maybe not Div1 (EPL) kind of leagues but would be curious to know for the heck of it.

Back on que and maybe not the mirror of Japan one day in the future there is the development system same top to bottom so everyone is on the same page so to speak for I don't think it is, the FA have to smash heads of the Feds down so its all for one.
There should be somesort of link to school football - I don't recall any Clubs making any appearance during my 2 lads the last 10/12yrs.
Rep/Clubs management picking kids whose parent/s have influnce amongst the Club re donations - this is quite big imo, needs to get stamped out for many who are likely better players are being screwed.
The $ is driving decisions way too much at Rep/NPL levels for a long time due our lack of financial support down to grass roots.


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