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Time to drop nebo. Absolute waste of a position. Provides nothing but a free kick and corner taker.

I know we don't have the greatest stock's on the bench but he provides nothing when we have possession.
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damonzzzz wrote:
While I agree we don't have the cattle to play a 'pretty' game I have always been pretty stumped at the type of game Kenny installed. Not sure how many of you are aware of what the NTC structure was like, but he was heavily involved there and the players would get destroyed for doing things like not playing it from the back in basically every single scenario possible. The whole 443 game was repeatedly smashed down the players throats.

Maybe last year he sure an opportunity to be successful playing a 'dirty' game? And now we don't really have a choice with the players we have


Very true about the philosophy Lowe enforced at NTC level but then again he is far more comfortable shouting at children then he is grown men hence why we watch Dino hoofing 90% of the balls he recieves at the back or last year watching Vuka kick the ball onto Bulwer St or Garcia/Nebo going missing for great periods in time or Harold only putting 1 decent cross in every 82653 times.

Then again his mouth is operated by Sages hand isnt it....

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perthjay85 wrote:
Time to drop nebo. Absolute waste of a position. Provides nothing but a free kick and corner taker.

I know we don't have the greatest stock's on the bench but he provides nothing when we have possession.

Who are we going to replace him with? Gligor? He is a waste of a squad position. He has the unique ability to be wrong place all the time and on the odd occasion when he does touch the ball, he never looks to pass forward.

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biscuitman1871 wrote:
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Time to drop nebo. Absolute waste of a position. Provides nothing but a free kick and corner taker.

I know we don't have the greatest stock's on the bench but he provides nothing when we have possession.

Who are we going to replace him with? Gligor? He is a waste of a squad position. He has the unique ability to be wrong place all the time and on the odd occasion when he does touch the ball, he never looks to pass forward.


Oxborrow came on and did well.
I would actually pick gligor as well because at least he makes a contest.

Both of them for me would be a better option than nebo. He turns the ball over, doesn't mark any player. And most importantly walks / slow jogs around the pitch.

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perthjay85 wrote:
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Time to drop nebo. Absolute waste of a position. Provides nothing but a free kick and corner taker.

I know we don't have the greatest stock's on the bench but he provides nothing when we have possession.

Who are we going to replace him with? Gligor? He is a waste of a squad position. He has the unique ability to be wrong place all the time and on the odd occasion when he does touch the ball, he never looks to pass forward.


Oxborrow came on and did well.
I would actually pick gligor as well because at least he makes a contest.

Both of them for me would be a better option than nebo. He turns the ball over, doesn't mark any player. And most importantly walks / slow jogs around the pitch.

Oxborrow is good value although once a game he will lose the ball in a dangerous position.

I don't know how you can say Gligor makes a contest, he barely touches the ball or puts himself where it will be.

Worst player we have signed and given that we have Warren and Golec ...

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biscuitman1871 wrote:
perthjay85 wrote:
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Time to drop nebo. Absolute waste of a position. Provides nothing but a free kick and corner taker.

I know we don't have the greatest stock's on the bench but he provides nothing when we have possession.

Who are we going to replace him with? Gligor? He is a waste of a squad position. He has the unique ability to be wrong place all the time and on the odd occasion when he does touch the ball, he never looks to pass forward.


Oxborrow came on and did well.
I would actually pick gligor as well because at least he makes a contest.

Both of them for me would be a better option than nebo. He turns the ball over, doesn't mark any player. And most importantly walks / slow jogs around the pitch.

Oxborrow is good value although once a game he will lose the ball in a dangerous position.

I don't know how you can say Gligor makes a contest, he barely touches the ball or puts himself where it will be.

Worst player we have signed and given that we have Warren and Golec ...


Gligor has only played 20 games i think off the top of my head. I like that he gets stuck in to other players. I can't remember the last time nebo tackled a player. Gligor does tackle players albeit a little dangerously at times.
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perthjay85 wrote:
biscuitman1871 wrote:
perthjay85 wrote:
biscuitman1871 wrote:
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Time to drop nebo. Absolute waste of a position. Provides nothing but a free kick and corner taker.

I know we don't have the greatest stock's on the bench but he provides nothing when we have possession.

Who are we going to replace him with? Gligor? He is a waste of a squad position. He has the unique ability to be wrong place all the time and on the odd occasion when he does touch the ball, he never looks to pass forward.


Oxborrow came on and did well.
I would actually pick gligor as well because at least he makes a contest.

Both of them for me would be a better option than nebo. He turns the ball over, doesn't mark any player. And most importantly walks / slow jogs around the pitch.

Oxborrow is good value although once a game he will lose the ball in a dangerous position.

I don't know how you can say Gligor makes a contest, he barely touches the ball or puts himself where it will be.

Worst player we have signed and given that we have Warren and Golec ...


Gligor has only played 20 games i think off the top of my head. I like that he gets stuck in to other players. I can't remember the last time nebo tackled a player. Gligor does tackle players albeit a little dangerously at times.

You must be watching a different Gligor from the pint sized, slow, lightweight I have been watching.

It looks like the only things he gets stuck into are Mars bars.

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biscuitman1871 wrote:
perthjay85 wrote:
biscuitman1871 wrote:
perthjay85 wrote:
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perthjay85 wrote:
Time to drop nebo. Absolute waste of a position. Provides nothing but a free kick and corner taker.

I know we don't have the greatest stock's on the bench but he provides nothing when we have possession.

Who are we going to replace him with? Gligor? He is a waste of a squad position. He has the unique ability to be wrong place all the time and on the odd occasion when he does touch the ball, he never looks to pass forward.


Oxborrow came on and did well.
I would actually pick gligor as well because at least he makes a contest.

Both of them for me would be a better option than nebo. He turns the ball over, doesn't mark any player. And most importantly walks / slow jogs around the pitch.

Oxborrow is good value although once a game he will lose the ball in a dangerous position.

I don't know how you can say Gligor makes a contest, he barely touches the ball or puts himself where it will be.

Worst player we have signed and given that we have Warren and Golec ...


Gligor has only played 20 games i think off the top of my head. I like that he gets stuck in to other players. I can't remember the last time nebo tackled a player. Gligor does tackle players albeit a little dangerously at times.

You must be watching a different Gligor from the pint sized, slow, lightweight I have been watching.

It looks like the only things he gets stuck into are Mars bars.


Don't get me wrong i would prefer someone like Brandon O'Neill, Rostyn Griffiths or even Jacob fucking burns in midfield.

But Even if i thought what you said was true i would still pick gligor over nebo.

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We're just so thin on midfielders.

As for dropping Nebo, yes he offers bugger all in general play, but do we not need the set piece delivery?!
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Eastern Glory wrote:
We're just so thin on midfielders.

As for dropping Nebo, yes he offers bugger all in general play, but do we not need the set piece delivery?!


If I was the coach I'd either drop Nebo for the next game, as a bit of a wake up call, or have a talk to him this week telling him he needs to lift his game (that is, we know you are better than this ... time to show it) ... with the implied threat of being bench left out there.
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sokorny wrote:
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We're just so thin on midfielders.

As for dropping Nebo, yes he offers bugger all in general play, but do we not need the set piece delivery?!


If I was the coach I'd either drop Nebo for the next game, as a bit of a wake up call, or have a talk to him this week telling him he needs to lift his game (that is, we know you are better than this ... time to show it) ... with the implied threat of being bench left out there.








Is Sandor back this week? If he is I'd drop Nebo for Sandor and see how that goes. Nebo as said goes missing too much and I'm not sure his shots and free kicks compensate for a missing player. Sandor I don't think will be the answer, think he will also go missing during the game but worth a try and hopefully will give more incentive for Nebo.

Garcia Fernandez Harold
----Castro------- Sandor
------------Ferreria


Or if Sandor isn't ready maybe

---------Fernandez
Garciia---Castro-----Harold
------Ferreria--Thwaite
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Eastern Glory wrote:
With the players that we have at the moment, what sort of football would you like to see us playing?
We tend to complain about Kenny a lot, but we don't often propose solutions really.

Also, what style of players do we need to fix our side?


I think they need to play a little more positive, easier said than done but really the team isn't holding the ball for long enough periods of time and sit back too far in defense.

I think a big problem is Nebo, in that he is not providing anything in the middle of the park. We rely too heavily on the wings to attack, which makes us one dimensional and easy for teams to counter. Nebo and Castro both have the pedigree to step up and provide that spine for us down the centre of the park. We should be setting the wingers free from the centre of the park, Risdon knows how to make this run and it gets them behind the defense (not easy to counter either unless the opposition sits deep). However, we also need Nebo and Castro (or the attacking centre mids) to provide some forward passing ... combination play through the middle of the park still works at all levels (I've seen far too little of that this season from Glory).

Fernandez is a target, but that doesn't mean you lob the ball into him from the wings every chance you get. Harold / Sidnei / Garcia should be attacking near post/low crosses (adds variety). Also playing through the middle should finish with balls to Fernandez.

Let's face it the last two seasons the striker for Glory has had a pretty thankless job. Feeding off scraps and having to work hard to create half chances for themselves.

What we need is a fit squad (why so many injuries?) and for some of the players to pull their finger out of it. I don't think we have the cattle to challenge for the title (but making the finals and being the best over 3/4 weeks is something we could still achieve).
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What did people think of Grant and Williams as CBs on the weekend?

I thought Grant looked a solid defender and won well in the air. His passing wasn't the best, but that could be a confidence issue.

Williams I thought looked pretty good too ... had lots of energy and confident on the ball. Considering they were playing one of the most experienced attacks in the A-League and pulled off a clean sheet says something (although the temps helped the defenders some too).

I also thought Thwaite really did well at CDM. He look comfortable, read the ball well, had good energy and provided great coverage for the CBs (think he has to play there until Ruben is fit ... and then might depend on how Thwaite performs up to then).
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sokorny wrote:
What did people think of Grant and Williams as CBs on the weekend?

I thought Grant looked a solid defender and won well in the air. His passing wasn't the best, but that could be a confidence issue.

Williams I thought looked pretty good too ... had lots of energy and confident on the ball. Considering they were playing one of the most experienced attacks in the A-League and pulled off a clean sheet says something (although the temps helped the defenders some too).

I also thought Thwaite really did well at CDM. He look comfortable, read the ball well, had good energy and provided great coverage for the CBs (think he has to play there until Ruben is fit ... and then might depend on how Thwaite performs up to then).


Kenny might be on to a winner.

Thwaite is needed as a screen, whilst Grant and Williams seemed very good at the back.

For once I wasn't throwing pillows at the TV every time Warren got the ball, but FFS, he can't cross for shit.




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Will be interesting to see if Thwaite stays at DM if and when Sandor comes back into the team. I like him playing there and thought that Williams and Grant did well, admittedly against a team that created nothing and operated at walking pace. MV on 16 December could be a very different proposition.

Only problem I see with Thwaite at DM is that I reckon he will get a yellow card every game and we can't afford to lose him for a game.

I saw Zadkovich walking around the ground with Fernandez on Saturday - even if he comes back after Christmas, he is going to be a long way off the pace and we saw how that went when he came back into the side last season.

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Yeah don't think Warren has had much experience playing as an attacking defender (or a player use to the ball at their feet). He also loses his man lots in games I have noticed ... think Brosque almost stole in for a goal on the weekend, but Covic saved Warren's blushes (he was ball watching ).

When Dino is back it may be worth putting Williams on the left (not sure how he goes on the left, but seems more confident on the ball than Warren, and more astute to the man he is meant to be marking).
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Is Keogh still in Perth with family and without a club? Looking more likely with the Fernandez foot injury.
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Risdon and Grant both out for this weekends game. Anthony Golec, Jacob Collard, Stefan Valentini and Joseph Knowles all in the squad.
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sokorny wrote:
Risdon and Grant both out for this weekends game. Anthony Golec, Jacob Collard, Stefan Valentini and Joseph Knowles all in the squad.


Things not getting any better. At least these young kids will get a run.






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hotrod wrote:
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Risdon and Grant both out for this weekends game. Anthony Golec, Jacob Collard, Stefan Valentini and Joseph Knowles all in the squad.


Things not getting any better. At least these young kids will get a run.



IIRC you predicted we would lose 3-0 to Sydney last week.

I think you underestimate our ability to get 10 men behind the ball and drag the other team down to our level.

How much time do you think we have devoted to defensive structures at training this week compared to creative combination play to generate scoring chances?

This game will be 0-0 or 1-0 either way (unless City's wingers get their shit together and rip Warren a new one).

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biscuitman1871 wrote:
hotrod wrote:
sokorny wrote:
Risdon and Grant both out for this weekends game. Anthony Golec, Jacob Collard, Stefan Valentini and Joseph Knowles all in the squad.


Things not getting any better. At least these young kids will get a run.



IIRC you predicted we would lose 3-0 to Sydney last week.

I think you underestimate our ability to get 10 men behind the ball and drag the other team down to our level.

How much time do you think we have devoted to defensive structures at training this week compared to creative combination play to generate scoring chances?

This game will be 0-0 or 1-0 either way (unless City's wingers get their shit together and rip Warren a new one).


I did, just because Sydney seems to win away and the Glory back 4 were very changed.

I'm thinking this will be a close loss.

I can't see Glory holding Mooy for 90 unless Thwaite is in MF, which I doubt as Grant and Risdon are out.




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hotrod wrote:
biscuitman1871 wrote:
hotrod wrote:
sokorny wrote:
Risdon and Grant both out for this weekends game. Anthony Golec, Jacob Collard, Stefan Valentini and Joseph Knowles all in the squad.


Things not getting any better. At least these young kids will get a run.



IIRC you predicted we would lose 3-0 to Sydney last week.

I think you underestimate our ability to get 10 men behind the ball and drag the other team down to our level.

How much time do you think we have devoted to defensive structures at training this week compared to creative combination play to generate scoring chances?

This game will be 0-0 or 1-0 either way (unless City's wingers get their shit together and rip Warren a new one).


I did, just because Sydney seems to win away and the Glory back 4 were very changed.

I'm thinking this will be a close loss.

I can't see Glory holding Mooy for 90 unless Thwaite is in MF, which I doubt as Grant and Risdon are out.


Would imagine Golec could be thrown into CB, considering how effective Thwaite was. Also will need a big body on Fornarolli I reckon (don't see Williams getting the job on him).

I can sort of understand at the moment Glory being more concerned with defensive structures, but really other than Adelaide most teams will eventually break you down if you sit too deep.
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Predict-a-Kenny:

-----------------------Covic-------------------

Williams------Collard------Golec------Warren

Harold-----Ferreira-----Thwaite-------Castro

-----------------Garcia--------Sidnei------------

Subs:
Reiners
Oxborrow
Marinkovic
Gligor
Tyson

Marinkovic is due a spell. He has been going backwards and his usual excellent corners are below par. He can't be carried any more. With Collard in CB there is at least Thwaite as a screening DM, which has worked out OK in the past two games.

With Fernandez having surgery on his foot, could that mean Keogh back for a cameo?







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hotrod wrote:
Predict-a-Kenny:

-----------------------Covic-------------------

Williams------Collard------Golec------Warren

Harold-----Ferreira-----Thwaite-------Castro

-----------------Garcia--------Sidnei------------

Subs:
Reiners
Oxborrow
Marinkovic
Gligor
Tyson

Marinkovic is due a spell. He has been going backwards and his usual excellent corners are below par. He can't be carried any more. With Collard in CB there is at least Thwaite as a screening DM, which has worked out OK in the past two games.

With Fernandez having surgery on his foot, could that mean Keogh back for a cameo?




-----------------------Covic-------------------

Williams------Thwaite------Golec------Warren

-------------------Oxborrow-----------------------

-----------Ferreira------------Castro

Harold--------------Sidnei------------Garcia

Subs:
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Collard
Marinkovic
Gligor
Tyson

This is mine but I wouldn't be at all surprised if Marinkovic stays in the starting XI with Sidnei on the bench with Castro moving into the front three out wide with Harold central as a sole striker. More of a 4-1-4-1


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biscuitman1871 wrote:
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Risdon and Grant both out for this weekends game. Anthony Golec, Jacob Collard, Stefan Valentini and Joseph Knowles all in the squad.


Things not getting any better. At least these young kids will get a run.



IIRC you predicted we would lose 3-0 to Sydney last week.

I think you underestimate our ability to get 10 men behind the ball and drag the other team down to our level.


How much time do you think we have devoted to defensive structures at training this week compared to creative combination play to generate scoring chances?

This game will be 0-0 or 1-0 either way (unless City's wingers get their shit together and rip Warren a new one).


Have to consider the conditions...and it was Sydney. 3-0 will be more likely in this game, away from home in conditions that would lend to a higher pace game. City have also scored the most goals so far, 5 more than Sydney. Also missing Grant and Risdon.

3-0 this game seems likely. 0-0 will be lucky.
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So the useless lump Fernandez is due for surgery and we STILL aren't allowed Keogh as a Guest. What a joke. I would have though the FFA would be making an effort to help clubs put bums on seats considering how underwhelming the season is panning out compared to recent years. Instead it appears they're still trying to kick the boot into us over last season.
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PerthRed wrote:
So the useless lump Fernandez is due for surgery and we STILL aren't allowed Keogh as a Guest. What a joke. I would have though the FFA would be making an effort to help clubs put bums on seats considering how underwhelming the season is panning out compared to recent years. Instead it appears they're still trying to kick the boot into us over last season.

We could get Keogh as an injury replacement for Fernandez but that would have to be under the cap.

What are the odds on us getting a couple of out of condition journeymen in January when they realise that Fernandez and Zadkovich are not going to come good.


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biscuitman1871 wrote:
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So the useless lump Fernandez is due for surgery and we STILL aren't allowed Keogh as a Guest. What a joke. I would have though the FFA would be making an effort to help clubs put bums on seats considering how underwhelming the season is panning out compared to recent years. Instead it appears they're still trying to kick the boot into us over last season.

We could get Keogh as an injury replacement for Fernandez but that would have to be under the cap.

What are the odds on us getting a couple of out of condition journeymen in January when they realise that Fernandez and Zadkovich are not going to come good.


Extremely high chances of an out of condition journey man signing.




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biscuitman1871 wrote:
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So the useless lump Fernandez is due for surgery and we STILL aren't allowed Keogh as a Guest. What a joke. I would have though the FFA would be making an effort to help clubs put bums on seats considering how underwhelming the season is panning out compared to recent years. Instead it appears they're still trying to kick the boot into us over last season.

We could get Keogh as an injury replacement for Fernandez but that would have to be under the cap.

What are the odds on us getting a couple of out of condition journeymen in January when they realise that Fernandez and Zadkovich are not going to come good.


Would the FFA allow that? They've said he's not high profile enough to be a guest, but my guess is that's just a thinly veiled excuse. I'm sure they could conjure up another reason to stop him signing as an injury replacement.
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My concern is that January will be far too late to save the season.
Again we look like Garcia and Sidnei have to be our strikers.
Neither are strikers, but seem unwilling to throw a youngster in to start.
What are we now, over 6 hours without a goal?
Perhaps this week it'll change, but don't know how many more goal less weeks we can keep going like this.
And I accept, for all my previous praise of Nebo, it's gone horribly wrong since FFA Cup, with everything overhit and botched, just don't know what's happened. Maybe has an injury, everyone else seems too.
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