Brad Jones for a bit more experience.

Yeah, forgot him too!

Surely I'm missing someone else out on the pitch??

I got a kick out of the front page of the West, Buswell calling Glory the worst major sporting organisation he has had to deal with (hey, we're a major sporting org now, woo).

Buswell has probably has probably been the worst guy Glory have ever had to deal with also. I'm a Liberal voter and I can't stand this guy.

Ditto, I dread the day that he ever gets the top job again...

Also, posted this in a different thread, but also relevant here:
I wonder if the move to get a notable marquee like this was fueled by the NBL's Perth Wildcats and their NBA draftee loaner. I know, everyone over east is snickering at the idea of have to match up against an NBL team, but they're a force to be reckoned with over here and Ennis is drawing in a lot of local media hype.

Wildcats announcing over 7,600 members - we're not even gaining ground on the buggers, although hopefully Gallas and a strong sunday performance mobilises Perth to sign up.

For the bench
Tombides
Madaschi

Edited by Eastern Glory: 24/10/2013 08:13:36 PM

Brad Jones is the obvious one but wow, that is a pretty fap-worthy side, which I didn't expect.

Edit - yeah Madaschi for CB a good call

Edit - and LOL, only 3 of them to have played for Perth Glory. 3/14 if you include the other 3 names

Edited by AndyToddsElbow: 24/10/2013 06:59:23 PM

Yeah, it'd basically be like a WA 'State of Origin' team, hehe.

NT = the likes of Rhys Williams & his brothers, Chris Herd, Shane Lowry, Adrian Madaschi, Brad Jones, Ruka', Tombides brothers...

Trent Sainsbury, Scott Galloway, Richard Garcia, Rostyn Griffiths, Adam Taggart, Eli Babalj, Birighitti, De Silva, Risdon etc...

I was just kind of joking, in evoking the old 'Secession' ideas - WA had a referendum on it infact, in 1933! ;)



eh! eh! :p In context please? Details? What are their membership packs? How many games do they play a season? Is scarcity an issue for them? :-k

Obviously impacts of the new-fangled stadium which has caught EVERYBODY'S eye for years while it's unfolded, that Eternity Puzzle design.

Glory have their own new-fangled stadium though and aren't promoting in the inner city, nor do they need to. Like other A-League clubs they need to reach out to the grassroots and we see signs across the A-League that clubs are doing this much better. If Glory aren't doing this as well this season, then they better bloody do soon or, well, they reap the results they deserve.

Glory are atleast 5k members now and are tracking ahead of the last few seasons. I doubt Glory's club record for memberships is beyond 6k, so Glory may EVEN hit a new club record this season. IF they organise themselves far better, and that's a big IF (Unfortunately), then, sure, they can aim for 7-8k members next season!




BTW We caring too much what 'The Chair Sniffer' says? How that guy is still even about... but I guess THAT'S State Politics - if anything that makes him a more familiar figure in the public eye. :roll:

Edited by gloryperth: 24/10/2013 08:16:48 PM

All of that might be true, but sadly to have any success and reconnect with their fans, I think the club (and to some extent, the fans) need to put that all behind them.

The club this year has a golden opportunity with a new coach, new CEO, new backroom staff, to disconnect from the past (well the recent past) and put their best foot forward. To do that, I honestly think they need to not take anything for granted - especially fans - and not just assume like they've done previously that people will keep coming back because of the good times in the NSL.

The club's been in a similar position before and choked on their own hubris. I am hopeful this won't happen this time, but I've been wrong before.

PS, I may not like Buswell AT ALL but when he says Glory have been the least professional sporting organisation in this state the government has dealt with, I very much believe him.

I think that will change going forward but let's face it, we've got a cowboy/possible tax fraud owner we know the club hasn't paid bills to the govt, Allia, and state league teams before.

They've got a debt of trust to start payments on.


Hey, there's a blog in that...

a few consistent winning seasons is what is needed to get more supporters. simple statement, but if a new coach, youth, gallas and a new stand don't win, or at least win at home more often than not, then it's gonna be the shed and a few other regulars as always>>>

p.s. that wildcats import is dominating the league in scoring and high flying athleticism, to emulate that kind of thing in the a-league, impossible! Wildcats did really well recruiting him for apparently $100K, but he'll be off potentially before the end of season, back to Miami (NBA) or Euro Dollars.

p.s.s. I kinda like the State vs State idea, interesting!

Newcastle disagrees :)



Yeah, tough comparison but I guess it would be like us finding the next Ergic or getting a kwwwaaaality European at a young-ish age. A bit of flair can bring crowds in.




We'd have a young team that could kick some eastern ass.

Context? Our cheapest adult membership is $200, theirs is $349. Both teams have a few thousand to grow into. They play 14 home games in a season, we play between 13-14. Scarcity is not an issue (though they walk-up ticket prices are absolutely wildly high).

Hmm that doesn't quite explain it. People mentioned the banners in the city before, I've seen them too.

TBRH - New stadium, which has piqued many people's interest, is surely a big draw. Wildcats have gone from second class citizens in backwater Burswood Dome or where ever they ended up, Perth Entertainment Centre growing cobwebs from neglect (I swear I even saw tumble weed about that site!), to becoming first class citizens, right in the heart of the city again, in the venue's prime, brand spanking new, state of the art, venue. Which again, has taken much longer than hoped to complete, all glaringly in the public eye, centre of the city, past all the traffic, pedestrians and all those buses passing by! All this time, building the anticipation for it's unveiling ever more!

I don't think we should downplay that factor. While yes, Basketball and the Wildcats have their level of appeal and even nostalgia too, harking back to their own 'Glory Days' I think it's only part of the story. Not even they would've had such member levels 'back in the day' as heck, Perth Entertainment Centre's capacity wasn't too much bigger than 7-8k! ;)

And location of that venue couldn't be much better and hence why it's there, near the site of the old PEC and what not. Nib isn't too badly located either, but EVEN the AFL could've eyed off that site where the new Perth Arena is now, due to it's fantastic location, next to Perth's central train station, Bus station, all adjacent to the CBD, heaps of potential parking space etc... But I guess it's nice that the fancy and relatively unique Arena is there, rather than some 60k capacity monster rivalling the skyline. Heck, imagine if little old nib were located there instead - Walk ups and CBD coverage would be similarly improved!

Edited by gloryperth: 25/10/2013 03:22:27 AM

TBH I was making the comments in a kind of ironical, even joking/satirical, context. Literally, I agree, it was some spin on whoever's part who told Gallas that Glory were the biggest club in Australia - Though I was attempting to support that 'spin' with some additional positive spin to back that up. :p

That aside, indeed, and with the A-League re-boot, Glory had to re-boot too. Was some lag issues, including the ownership changes/turmoil, but thankfully some stability and West Aussie flavour and even PASSION with Sagey. Indeed, past is past, but Glory can still be proud to have such history, roots, something the other A-League clubs could only dream of. But yes, like anything, you only reflect on past glories where appropriate (Like the 15th anniversary in 2011) and build on that foundation, going forward.

THAT is why Edwards and the little initiatives he introduced to re-invigorate the, tbh, neglected culture/roots of the club was soo brilliant and even wise. That lifts morale and it's those connections, ties, that will again foster the engagement and ties, with the wider base, along with a plethora of other initiatives ofcourse. 'Local Heroes' are important too and Edwards and co being here fosters that, aswell as his squad now, with the talent coming through. With young De Silva and co coming through, it's literally a revolution from even the recent past, we all see that.

It's best of both worlds ofcourse and that's wisdom. Hopefully the CEO brings that too, with his 'local football links' - he evokes via his Tweets Glory's history, past, too. Like everything in life, Glory's past/history is it's roots, identity, and Glory can embrace that identity, whilst moving forward. But ofcourse, no laurels or past Glories to rest, it's always about looking to the present and future, maintaining a vision, setting those goals, with a clear and evolving plan to meet those goals and evolve them as things progress, all the while keeping to an even evolving, that core identity, which (hopefully) further enriches and entrenches, over time.

Edited by gloryperth: 25/10/2013 07:14:14 PM

+1 Dave. People seem to like putting on the blinkers when their sport is involved.



OT but on Ennis, he's already turned down lucrative offers to play in France etc, he's not going to leave and Miami view him as a 14/15 player, if he gets recalled it's because they've been ripped to pieces with injuries

Club really needs to build without the team winning several seasons in a row. In a very competitive 10 team league with a salary cap it will always be difficult to win more than 2 on the trot. Being bottom two or three several years in a row however will make it difficult to grow the club.

Ennis is a pretty safe bet - the Euro leagues were offering in the 500-800k range but wouldn't allow a recall clause. Wildcats would, and are offering in the 100-150k range, which still allows for comfortable living for his parents. But when you consider the people that play Ennis' position at the Heat (Lebron James, among others) it would take a wild injury crisis to get him recalled.

As for the issue of club professionalism, well even the Perth Heat seem to have the jump on the Glory when it comes to administrative professionalism in recent years. We have been demonstrably poor. Brewer seems to be working hard to correct this, which is good to see, but Sage is undeniably something of a rogue element.

And more on Ennis, had to smirk at last week's Worst article:

"Some of my friends actually quit and started gang-banging and doing drugs, but I just loved basketball and that's what I did".

http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/-/wa/19504650/glory-gave-25k-to-nationals/ - Misleading title, as article admits, it wasn't 'Glory', it was Sage.

All more political stuff. Who knows what is motivating Busmell here? Still seems cheap points scoring for political gain, though, yes, I'm showing my multi-layered bias. But griping over $150k compared to the 'waste' in 'sports funding' in other areas - sometimes Sage just seems like an easy target and maybe, yes, some of that may be due to his own making, but other things we can be of no doubt that Glory has had a raw deal, even recent times with the pitch re-lay.

MAYBE they are separate issues? But they are obviously soo fragile when it comes to Glory and with others they bend over which way and then some, no matter what. I know that's life, the landscape here, but doesn't always make that right. Sage may be right or wrong here, but this too doesn't mean Glory/Sage is as bad guy as perhaps is painted?



Yeah, concur. Not unlike the old days and not unlike Roar recently, just a bit more sustained. Glory's battle up-hill is so much further to have a smidgeon of impact, recognition over East - let alone a bit of interest generated about the club.

Talked about this in the attendance thread, but will be a great next level step up for the A-League and it's health, if/when the likes of Roar and Glory become bigger drawing 'away' fixtures.

Roar are kind of my second side, and it's a kind of injustice they aren't seen as one of the more appealing visiting teams in the league!

WA and QLD, the two Rebel States, still rocking the South-Eastern status quo/bias! We subsidised them more than enough via the Mining Boom. :p

Despite the Salary Cap, this league can still leap frog in standard and that's how it's kind of worked so far, with Ange's revolution at Roar, Arnie rising back up, Ange revolution mk II at Victory, Poppa and Wanderers out of nowhere to break the Roar-Mariners duopoly that was threatening to appear. Now we see Adelaide United this season, potentially the next team to be 'the dark horse' to throw a spanner in the works of the 'now' 'usual favourites' Mariners, Roar and co!

If Glory can do something like that, for a few seasons, that may really turn things around? Some ACL football might be the kind of fresh 'international' novelty to bring some crowds too? :-k

Edited by gloryperth: 25/10/2013 07:32:46 PM

Miller out for a month with Brisvegas.

Glad Glory dodged that bullet. :lol:

Saw today's youth game vs Heart, which we lost 1-0. It wasn't brilliant by any means, but there were a few good plays. Zahra played - so I guess expect Harold and/or Nagai tomorrow - but while he played well, I wouldn't say it was enough to storm into first team contention. Blamo Qua Qua captained the side and was brilliant in the first half in midfield, but like Zahra faded badly in the second. Riley Woodcock did very well from left back and nearly levelled the game in the second half with a great run and shot that went just wide.

cheers for the info, how did knowles go?

Don't know unfortunately, I don't know half the squad yet :(

Makeche was up front for most of the game before being replaced in the second half by Harry O'Brien. No idea what's going on with him, he should be pushing pushing pushing to crack the senior team but he looked pretty lacklustre today.

Is former Portsmouth player, Andy Higgins, still with the side/NYL team? And the obligatory follow up - If you know if he was there, how did he go?



Oh, that's disappointing to hear - indeed he SHOULD be and heck, he WOULD be about the first team alraedy IF he was, given, behind Maclaren we pretty much got 'no-one' but Harold at the moment and if Harold gets a wide position in the XI, then it's pretty much ALL MacLaren.

HECK - One might argue we NEED Makeche to be pushing, pushing very hard, scoring a bag-load of NYL goals etc... To put that necessary pressure on MacLaren and on the striking pecking order!

Edited by gloryperth: 26/10/2013 10:47:40 PM

Wish we had a local rival:(

Adding a second team for the purpose of manufacturing a rivalry is not good thinking.

We'll get (better) A-League rivalries when we start to perform better and beat people in important matches with a good deal of drama. That's what sells a rivalry, not Perth 1 v Perth 2.

I always enjoy our Adelaide matches personally, because they always seem to produce goals - besting Brisbane is also satisfying for obvious reasons.

So, good game today I thought. Not the best we can play, but we did a good job defensively and any home win is welcome.


Best:
Jamieson - 2 beautiful attempts on goal, continually linked with either Nagai or Sidnei depending on who was in front at the time, and was defensively solid too.
Sidnei - 3 games, 3 times in my 'best of' list. Just caused Hoffman and co. all sorts of problems down both sides. Was it not for 2 deflections would have 2 assists to Ryo.
Thwaite - Hai guyz I'm back and bossing the defence. So good to have him back! Pants looked completely calmed down by his presence.

Improved:
Burns and McGarry did a lot better job linking their deep midfield 2 to the attacking midfield 3. McGarry in particular rebounded after a couple of games which probably wouldn't be up to his normal standard.
Vuka's kicking was a hell of a lot better this week too.

Impressed by
Davies - wouldn't have known he was a debutant, he was solid at the back and keen as mustard to get forward and attack. Great to see.
The stand - first time I've sat in the new stand and holy crap, that side of NIB actually is like a proper stadium with food outlets etc now!

Edited by f1dave: 27/10/2013 08:32:46 PM