Pictures that tell a 1000 words:

Fair points but all hypotheticals nonetheless.

Strangely we kept the most clean sheets inthe league so at the very least a shred of hope to build on and if we can sort the jigsaw of our midfield out and maybe, just maybe get Smeltz to bang some in.

you just don't know..............

Depressing to look at. Lowe has to go. It rhymes so it must be true.

What site these from

Go to the top of the page. Click 'Stats Zone'. Profit.

Only problem with that site is that Rostyn Griffiths and comes up as 'blank'.

Edited by andytoddselbow: 17/2/2014 02:23:46 AM

^thanks



http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/sport/soccer/a/21394845/

Glory are 9th, playing dire football, we can't create hardly any chances and we haven't won in 5 matches, and The message is chill out, we'll be all right. That's not what I wanna hear, Mulvey slammed his teams performance tonight, while we're saying we played well but need to be better in the final 3rd or w.e.


Edited by iridium1010: 17/2/2014 02:42:15 AM

I've said before that the Stats can mean different things to different people.
On the above charts, Glory have 2 out of 34 crosses successful.
Particularly unfair, since for the past decade the definition of a successful cross for Glory has been, 1) Getting it into the air; 2) Beating the first defender; and 3) Keeping it in play.
Now that we're finally achieving some of these things (occasionally), the Stats now seemingly want us to actually get the ball to a team mate.
Unfair I say, and let's just take it one step at a time in our progress.

But good to know we're playing ok and just a little unlucky with the finishing.
Presume Kenny will still say he's under no pressure, etc, no time for crisis talks, and so on.

And my ponder for the week, if someone said for this weekend's match: "which Glory player are you most looking forward to seeing play this week", who or what do you say?

Was a horrible game to be at. Got a photo with Gallas though, so all is well.

I'd still get my membership next year if we signed Lowe, but I wouldn't be looking forward to the season, I'll say that much.

OK, so what's the issue???

They are in form because they are getting the ball. You can't score goals if you don't get the ball.

Smeltz is a proven striker and plays for the All Whites.

Has scored in the WC and hampered by injuries.

I could count on two fingers how may times he got the ball on the weekend.

Same here but I think if we remain in the bottom 3 come season end there will be a great deal of pressure on Sage to retain Lowe given he and Brewer stated (grab a pinch of salt now) there is great interest in the Glory coaching position and the sheer faact that Kenny is clearly out of his depth.

Just as Edwards was...

No need, JBFC has spoken............

Burns Says Glory Finals Hunt Still Alive

On the plus side, at least last year finally broke that run where the team that finished last DIED.

I thought Perth's main problem with the ball was Thwaite, for some reason he took the initiative despite little pressure exerted at the back and forced things giving the ball away. Ryan Griffiths while he looked slow and lumbering was decent with the ball but little movement for him to exploit. The new foreigners are less creative than Zahra who can also take on players and is fitter than them as well. I think Perth were lucky Gallas defused so many things. Sidnei should be tried in the center cannot cross but at least can run with ball and take on players.

Edited by nickk: 17/2/2014 11:54:57 AM

If I'm not mistaken, Lowe in his post-match presser said something along the lines of, "I thought it was a good performance but a disappointing result. You'd always prefer a great result and a shit performance but what can you do."

This is exactly the appalling attitude that has stuck this club in the mud for 8 years!!! Does Kenny Lowe seriously not realise that consistently good performances might not win you every game, but they'll win enough to make for a successful season? Conversely, you might get a few lucky results when you put in a poor performance... but you won't be sitting at the top of the table if you can't win games by playing well!



I watched Adelaide n Friday... they were great to watch. And they beat a strong CCM side 3-0. I will be watching them for the rest of the season, and hope they go on to win the GF. It would be fair reward for a team that imposed a new playing style, accepted the difficulties associated with the transition during the early part of the season, and are now enjoying the benefits.

Perth Glory... you could easily do the same thing next season with the right coaching appointment and problem just 3 or 4 new well-chosen first-team players. And you could within 12 months be a genuine top side in this league.
But I bet it won't happen.

If JBFC says that despite most of the pressure and possession in the second half, that all their wayward crossing, lack of threat, no service in the box (or decent shots on goal that weren't because of an IDF), shitty tactics, that these are all positives, then who are we to disagree? The sky can wait to fall another week, clearly!

Edited by andytoddselbow: 17/2/2014 02:29:05 PM

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Last year the team that finished last, the Nux, didn't get cut from the comp.

The year before that, however, Gold Coast United finished last, got the blindfold and cigarette.

The year before that, North Queensland finished last, got the headman's axe.

Kind of like Nightmare-mode Relegation.

100%

If that clown of an owner can do just one single thing right and finally appoint a decent football coach I think we have substance in the squad at the moment to start to build something genuinely good.

Fuck the season, let's just pray he gets that appointment right.

Right coaching appointment is part of it, but 2 on-the-ball midfielders of decent quality and a creative centre-forward to either compliment or replace Smeltz will also be necessary...

The trick would be to get the right coach AND allow him to sign the required players of his choosing. At Adelaide, for example, Gombau was a great choice but letting him also bring in Isaias and Cirio to compliment Carrusca and the capable local contingent was the real making of that team.

As much as it sounds so nice I think Sage will again back a local cheaper option.

So far we've had:

Smith's assistant Mitchell replace him
Mitchell's assistant Ferguson replace him
Ferguson replaced by Edwards (previous Glory player and NTC coach)
Edwards replaced by Lowe (was Smith/Mitchell/Ferguson's assistant in various roles)

The poisoned apple has not fallen far from the tree.

I expect a late season rally and Glory just fall short of the finals and Lowe appointed as coach as it will be the cheaper option.

I pray that Glory continue to lose and FINALLY the dead wood can be removed from the club (new OS coach appointed and Burns/McGarry to go).

Knowing how fucking cheap and totally clueless Sage is, sadly, I’d have to agree…..

Year before that, AU finished last and didn't get cut.
Year before that, NUJ finished last and didn't get cut.
Year before that, Nix finished last and didn't get cut.
Year before that, Kungz finished last and got cut.
Year before that, Kungz finished last and didn't get cut.

Not much of a pattern.

I don't expect a late-season rally... I think the club is going to struggle and that despite Sage letting Lowe have a couple of big signings during the January transfer window.

I don't think Sage, Brewer et al are so incompetent as to realise the previous trend of coach appointments has been unsuccessful... Ali Edwards likely would not have got the gig but for a surprisingly successful audition in his temporary gig last season. Mitchell was an obvious choice to replace Smith, so really Fergie was the only outright poor choice without the benefit of hindsight (and ironically he got us to a GF).


Unfortunately what I expect is a new coach to come in and be told, "What's wrong with all these players? They're seasoned professionals and their track records are pretty impressive. Forget spending money on changing over the squad... make do with what we have." And it's highly unlikely that any coach we're capable of hiring will be able to succeed with the current squad as is.


I highly doubt Lowe or anyone from within WA football will get the job... the questions are:
A) whether we get a foreign coach such as Hierro, or whether we get a local coach (Culina, Farina if he goes and Kosmina all seem like candidates as said as it is)
B) whether Sage wants to go results-driven with a proven track record or to attempt to identify someone willing to impose a new playing philosophy on the club
C) How much Sage is willing to part with

Based on my guesses for those 3, expect a cheap coach with a lot of experience and a couple of incidents of success from somewhere like Germany, Spain or Eastern Europe.

For me, though, I'd still like to see us look for a Scandinavian candidate.

Knowing Glory we'll end up with some muppet of a Scandinavian coach.........

Hey, it was still a run!

I think we'll have a bit of a rally, as the new players will get fitter and more used to playing together. But what all on here seem to agree on is that just signing some 'good' players and chucking them out there isn't enough to compete in the A League. I am sure Kenny realises this, the question is whether he can actually shape a side in that way. He promised early on that he'd get around to that next season if appointed, but I don't think we can take that risk - he has to show something of that this season. So far, he hasn't shown so much.

Yet we've been signing players for whomever DOES take over...

I do not want a recycled A-League coach or someone like Culina.

If we go Aussie, then coaches like Rudan, Milicic (unavailable), Stubbins, guys who have done their apprenticeship, are knowledgeable and should be competent enough to take the reins.

We had someone who was trying to implement his own philosophy and they got rid of him, so no faith in Sage to find someone else like that.

If Sage n co allowed an interim coach to sign a bunch of foreigners for this season and next, then they have no leg to stand on not giving a new coach next season room to sign 4-7 of his own players. All their re-signings they've done in the meantime hasn't exactly help with run to manoeuvre for any prospective coach. Lowe/Brewer have been calling the shots for next season.

Like others, sick of the repeated failures of the club it's same shit, different season. Before everyone was complaining our youth weren't up to it, now we're only playing Woodcock, and still being shit.

We shouldn't be playing McGarry or Burns, they are past it, out of form, and we need to see what O'Neill or Edwards can bring next to Rostyn.

There's also this kid called De Silva, getting some game time into him now would be good, yeah? Don't expect them to play Ryan again, so it's pretty much DDS, or the Visa players to play #10.

Wish we had signed Madaschi, just a pity Gallas is here, he may be a high calibre defender we haven't really had before but he's still not 100% fit, 8 games til the end of the season. He's been a failure and the fact that Sage threw the cheque book at him despite all these "cuts", it's just unacceptable.

Steve McMahon Jnr as coach [-o<