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I missed the game, seems like it was for the best. How did Sernas, Marinkovic and Sernas go? Also how was DeSilva's cameo?
Lowe is going to go, no way he will be resigned.
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Sorry in answer to the tactical side of your post Shanagar- It MUST be a Lowe command indeed, the cross balls in - they pursue it relentlessly as if it strict tactical command! But it's absolute fail, even on paper - let alone past/recent evidence! Maybe they banked on Sidnei and Harold's pace once more, but Wanderer's tactical organisation and transition to set the defence was too good and adjusted to resist most of our forays with ease.
It's one dimension stuff indeed - but again, who's assessing this? With what parameters? Who is fit in this coach selection process to assess Lowe's tactical performance? They have no football expertise at board level and the only quasi-football background is the CEO. No TD, given the poor, set up to fail, first attempt with Mitchell.
Mich D'Avray was a brief TD here, first A-L season. He actually was looking for a gig recent times? Why not 're-appoint' Mich even?
I have a strong feeling, going by vague memory, that Mich will bring the discipline and tactical organisation needed to re-organise this rabble and re-assert control for the coaching staff. He may have 'greater authority/reputation' with those above at Board level etc.. too given his prior association and wider experience?
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Can some of you guys enlighten us further over what's going on with our active support?
The Shed has a tradition, long tradition and even special membership. I could swear they were more active even a month or so ago?!
Iridium you are part of the GFU, right? You must know the goings on? BTW You were there when they, set off the flare? (Rhyming unintended! :P)
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Perth need to appoint a foreign manager, who will play a more entertaining style of football.
There style under Lowe is just too predictable especially when attacking, cross after cross after cross…..
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Time to break with the past. No Mich, no Bobby, no Jamie.
A properly qualified coach with a system, a philosophy, a long-term vision, and the guts to implement it.
And a new board and owner, please.
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soil wrote:I missed the game, seems like it was for the best. How did Sernas, Marinkovic and Sernas go? Also how was DeSilva's cameo?
Lowe is going to go, no way he will be resigned. I thought: Marinkovic was good, took a knock to the calf but stayed out there until DDS came on for him around 75min or so. Marinkovic took an excellent free kick which just missed the goal and was lively, but as we mostly tried to cross it in, he was probably a bit under utilised. At times, you could see our forwards getting in each other way (at one point both Sidnei and Marinkovic headed for a ball unaware of the other) and there is a lot lacking in our team play in the final third. Still mostly one out stuff, or combinations of two players trying to work it down the wings. Having said that, despite good pressure from WSW, we did try to play out quite a bit more this time, playing a low pass to a man with his back to goal and then a nice sideways layoff. Marinkovic is good in being able to receive under pressure and lay the ball off. Most of this good play was more around the middle third of the pitch though. DDS was tidy in what he did, but instead of slotting into #10, he seemed to push out wide on the right and a lot of the time he was ignored. Bit of a waste if you are bringing him on to try to do something. In the end seemed more like a sub to help Marinkovic who is still underdone and perhaps carrying a knock. Felt he could have come on after Gallas' mistake and take Griffiths off and try and get Marinkovic and DDS working together in and around the box. As we pressed in the last 5-10min, we pushed a lot of players forward and actually took some shots from those areas and looked more dangerous. Sernas came on after half time and to me struggled to get into the game. Having said that, some of the things he did do were quite good. For example, Woodcock (I think) cut inside at one point and delivered a neat pass to Sernas who turned in the box and took a quick shot. It was blocked, but showed nice awareness from Sernas. Sernas' history shows him primarily to be a #9 and I think he is struggling with fitness, the crapness of our build up play and the fact that he is playing wide. To me Griffiths is also still a bit underdone, though he was a bit better this game. Should have come off for DDS, as Burns had the back covered and we were pressing forward. McGarry had another pretty nondescript game and was subbed for Burns. Burns did his usual "trot around and pass back" thing for a while, but later in the game involved himself more in the attack and when he did pass forward and try to get involved he did ok. Probably best now that he only plays part of a game so he can involve himself more. Same for McGarry, although at the moment, he probably doesn't even deserve a spot at all. Wonder if he is injured or something, his form has really trailed off. Risdon worked hard and did some good stuff, but lots of crosses in and they were ineffective, even when put in dangerous areas. Woodcock was the same. He's not as direct as Risdon (or Jamieson), but he has a good football brain and when he can combine with a winger he can play some nice stuff and work it up the wing. He looks good when he cuts in near the box and looks for short passes. His crossing is a bit inconsistent, put in some nice ones but when under pressure it can be a bit meh. Sidnei worked hard. Got involved all around the park, switched wings and all that. He, like Glory, plays a lot one out though, and when he gets the ball in a good position, his momentum is slowed because there's no passing option or if there is, he's not aware of it. So he balks and shimmies and it all breaks down. At times, his crossing is first rate, but that wasn't the tactic for last night with WSW excellent disciplined defence. We couldn't get the ball to Smeltz, despite all our possession and pretty much we could have played Drogba or Falcao at #9 and it wouldn't have changed much. Smeltz tried and got frustrated and ended the match going through a WSW player from behind and then yelling out "f*** off" when a foul was called. He was rightly yellow carded. Thwaite was ok, though probably didn't close enough for the first goal (he was left exposed by midfield though too). Thwaite got involved, esp at the end, but went on runs which, surprise surprise, had no end product. In the final third we just don't know where to go and how to combine with each other. In the end, not enough fully fit players and not enough work on the track trying to implement some kind of system. I think we did pass the ball around better last night, but it wasn't effective where it counted and we fell into the trap of being pushed wide and delivering crosses which the WSW defence just lapped up. And it was a WSW B side (although they did still show excellent defensive discipline and shape and a lot of teams would have had trouble breaking them down). Kenny's plan to bring in some experience and have them save him hasn't worked (yet) and it's getting very late in the day for it to save him.
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Yeah, well, hopefully we have those kinds of candidates Dave - but all goes back to the process and with a failed process comes failed outcomes. Seems Glory are just going the good old fashioned, amateur hour - winging it! Good luck Brewer, your skill set range will be tested!
Heck, just make it easier for yourself - call your counterparts at Adelaide United and ask them what they did? Oh, that's right - they have a special independent advisory committee with Craig Foster and co, who recommended somebody (Damian Mori) only for their advice to be rejected and the committee in response choosing to disbandon. But they somehow eventually went for Gombau and rest history. Perhaps through advice left by the advisory committee on style, tactical approach, methodology etc?
I just hope that British Expat Brewer isn't too much like his fellow Expat punters at the ground last night - who were drunkenly calling for our players to 'kick it' or whatever the mundane, typical direct route phrases they shout are - even if they don't always practically mean that, these guys certainly did, perhaps ironically due to fail after fail of doing so, on the pitch? Maybe he/the club are all fine and hunky dory with Lowe and his teams' performances - no matter what the parametes
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f1dave wrote:Time to break with the past. No Mich, no Bobby, no Jamie.
A properly qualified coach with a system, a philosophy, a long-term vision, and the guts to implement it.
And a new board and owner, please. Would you like a pink unicorn (;) SB) too?
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From the A League: [size=8]Kenny Lowe: Glory can make finals despite six-match winless run [/size] [size=3]Sunday, 23 February 2014 10:58 AM[/size]
[size=7]Perth Glory interim coach Kenny Lowe refuses to accept his team's slim A-League finals chances are over.[/size]
Glory's 2-0 loss to Western Sydney Wanderers at nib Stadium on Saturday night was the club's third defeat in a row and sixth straight match without a victory.
Ninth-placed Glory are now seven points adrift of the top six and will likely need to win all remaining seven matches to have any hopes of playing in the finals.
That run includes away matches against league leaders Brisbane Roar, the second-placed Wanderers and the resurgent Wellington Phoenix.
But while it is still mathematically possible for Glory to qualify, Lowe will keep talking up his team's chances despite their poor form.
'There's plenty of games left and there's plenty of points to play for,' Lowe said.
'We've got a good environment and there's a good vibe about the place, but the unfortunate thing is we're not winning games – which means everything – and we need to do that quickly.'
Lowe rued his team's failure to 'turn up' in the first half, something that has been an unwanted trend for the club since he took the coaching reins in December.
He also admitted some players, including new recruits Rostyn Griffiths, Nebojsa Marinkovic and Darvydas Sernas, were underdone and that was not helping the team's cause.
'You've got to manipulate what you've got, we can't moan about it,' Lowe said.
'This is the situation I came into and this is the condition of the players. Ultimately we've got to use our environment and our conditions and get where we want to go.'
Glory's struggles were perhaps best illustrated by a horrible defensive blunder from marquee defender William Gallas.
The former French international had a massive air swing as he attempted to clear the ball and could only watch in horror as Tomi Juric swooped and scored Western Sydney's second goal.
'That's football, he's probably done it on bigger arenas and in bigger games,' Lowe said.
Glory captain Jacob Burns provided some spark for the home side after coming on in the second half, but Lowe refused to guarantee the former Socceroo a starting spot for the next weekend's clash with Brisbane Roar.
'We've got 23 players in the squad so everybody is 'game on' to get into the team,' Lowe said.
'That's the way it works when you're not winning. It's who steps up and takes the mantle.'
Well, that's settled me down now. I am sorry I'm having so little faith. Like I said, you'd better be supporting Roar today.
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So what are peoples stance on Smeltz and Sernas? Should Smeltz move on and Sernas Move to #9? Sernas is on loan until the end of next year right?
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This year. He's Dodd's current IR.
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Bring in a coach now, stop fucking about.
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[quote=f1dave]Time to break with the past. No Mich, no Bobby, no Jamie. A properly qualified coach with a system, a philosophy, a long-term vision, and the guts to implement it. But unfortunately, in what pot smoking make believe fairy land where unicorns have rainbows shining out their arses, do you think this will happen??? :lol: Edited by hotrod: 23/2/2014 03:36:13 PMEdited by Joffa: 23/2/2014 05:40:43 PM
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AndyToddsElbow wrote:This year. He's Dodd's current IR. There is an option for a permanent move though, it depends on the clause for that. Hopefully it isn't automatic - not to cast aspersions on him as a player but I'm pretty miffed at the squad being built for next year when the coaching situation wasn't sorted (and now looks like anything other than a new coach will be flushing more than just the next season down the toilet.) Thwaite is the only contract that should have been renewed post-Edwards. Vukovic and Jamo were already re-signed under Edwards, Sidnei was announced around the Edwards sacking so that was likely already a formality prior. Once the club was in a state of flux though, only performing key players (of which only Thwaite was left unsigned) should have been re-signed. Harold, whilst decent on his day, should have been risked on waiting for the permanent coaching appointment. If we lost him to another club, that's the price of the internal upheaval. But now if whoever coaches next season doesn't rate him then we have wasted a squad spot. Nebo should not have been given a two season contract, nor Sernas the option for extension. The club has come out and thrown its weight behind retaining Smeltz, who is a parody of his former self after years of poor service and unfortunate injuries. The club has been in negotiations with Burns regarding his ongoing capacity at the club, which implies a view to an off field role, great that they aren't necessarily planning around him as a player but the new coach should have input on who the off-field support is. Whoever is appointed as coach next season will need to somehow convince the board and, importantly, the supporters to stick through at least one season to free himself of leftover baggage from past seasons (and in all likelihood a second season to gel whatever team he then puts together.) Edited by Scoll: 23/2/2014 04:45:31 PM
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The problem is, we still can't rule out Lowe being re-signed. All that seems to matter is does Sage and Burnsy like him. There is absolutely no football reason to sign him again, but we all know we can't rule it out.
But frustratingly, even if we go for someone else, we'll probably sabotage him by making half of the possible signings whilst conducting our "worldwide search" (which will no doubt net us the return of Ian Ferguson or something).
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GloryB wrote:soil wrote:I missed the game, seems like it was for the best. How did Sernas, Marinkovic and Sernas go? Also how was DeSilva's cameo?
Lowe is going to go, no way he will be resigned. I thought: Marinkovic was good, took a knock to the calf but stayed out there until DDS came on for him around 75min or so. Marinkovic took an excellent free kick which just missed the goal and was lively, but as we mostly tried to cross it in, he was probably a bit under utilised. At times, you could see our forwards getting in each other way (at one point both Sidnei and Marinkovic headed for a ball unaware of the other) and there is a lot lacking in our team play in the final third. Still mostly one out stuff, or combinations of two players trying to work it down the wings. Having said that, despite good pressure from WSW, we did try to play out quite a bit more this time, playing a low pass to a man with his back to goal and then a nice sideways layoff. Marinkovic is good in being able to receive under pressure and lay the ball off. Most of this good play was more around the middle third of the pitch though. DDS was tidy in what he did, but instead of slotting into #10, he seemed to push out wide on the right and a lot of the time he was ignored. Bit of a waste if you are bringing him on to try to do something. In the end seemed more like a sub to help Marinkovic who is still underdone and perhaps carrying a knock. Felt he could have come on after Gallas' mistake and take Griffiths off and try and get Marinkovic and DDS working together in and around the box. As we pressed in the last 5-10min, we pushed a lot of players forward and actually took some shots from those areas and looked more dangerous. Sernas came on after half time and to me struggled to get into the game. Having said that, some of the things he did do were quite good. For example, Woodcock (I think) cut inside at one point and delivered a neat pass to Sernas who turned in the box and took a quick shot. It was blocked, but showed nice awareness from Sernas. Sernas' history shows him primarily to be a #9 and I think he is struggling with fitness, the crapness of our build up play and the fact that he is playing wide. To me Griffiths is also still a bit underdone, though he was a bit better this game. Should have come off for DDS, as Burns had the back covered and we were pressing forward. McGarry had another pretty nondescript game and was subbed for Burns. Burns did his usual "trot around and pass back" thing for a while, but later in the game involved himself more in the attack and when he did pass forward and try to get involved he did ok. Probably best now that he only plays part of a game so he can involve himself more. Same for McGarry, although at the moment, he probably doesn't even deserve a spot at all. Wonder if he is injured or something, his form has really trailed off. Risdon worked hard and did some good stuff, but lots of crosses in and they were ineffective, even when put in dangerous areas. Woodcock was the same. He's not as direct as Risdon (or Jamieson), but he has a good football brain and when he can combine with a winger he can play some nice stuff and work it up the wing. He looks good when he cuts in near the box and looks for short passes. His crossing is a bit inconsistent, put in some nice ones but when under pressure it can be a bit meh. Sidnei worked hard. Got involved all around the park, switched wings and all that. He, like Glory, plays a lot one out though, and when he gets the ball in a good position, his momentum is slowed because there's no passing option or if there is, he's not aware of it. So he balks and shimmies and it all breaks down. At times, his crossing is first rate, but that wasn't the tactic for last night with WSW excellent disciplined defence. We couldn't get the ball to Smeltz, despite all our possession and pretty much we could have played Drogba or Falcao at #9 and it wouldn't have changed much. Smeltz tried and got frustrated and ended the match going through a WSW player from behind and then yelling out "f*** off" when a foul was called. He was rightly yellow carded. Thwaite was ok, though probably didn't close enough for the first goal (he was left exposed by midfield though too). Thwaite got involved, esp at the end, but went on runs which, surprise surprise, had no end product. In the final third we just don't know where to go and how to combine with each other. In the end, not enough fully fit players and not enough work on the track trying to implement some kind of system. I think we did pass the ball around better last night, but it wasn't effective where it counted and we fell into the trap of being pushed wide and delivering crosses which the WSW defence just lapped up. And it was a WSW B side (although they did still show excellent defensive discipline and shape and a lot of teams would have had trouble breaking them down). Kenny's plan to bring in some experience and have them save him hasn't worked (yet) and it's getting very late in the day for it to save him. Very good summary - agree with you, especially about Griffiths and playing Nebo and De Silva together would have been the better option chasing the game, should have been earlier too. (Not sure about Nebo's "knock" though. Right in front of us, it looked like he accidentally passed the ball to the linesman and then went down to cover his mistake. Pretty generous of the Wanderers to give us the ball back). Only other thing I would add is the Risdon was absolutely shagged after an hour. OK going forward but really struggled getting back. Woodcock was absolutely slaughtered by Kwabena Appiah and looked much better when Hersi came on.
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If we re-sign Lowe, i will hate each and everyone of you.
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We're 30mins from being bottom of the ladder.
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What have people thought of Risdon since he came back?
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Not yet match fit really but he's still our best right back. His attacking play is not what it was pre-injury, that will take time.
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And we're last.
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Iridium1010 wrote:And we're last. Woo hoo. Looking forward to a riot with flares next home game. :lol:
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"Youth?" "rebuilding?"
Those words are excuses for a team that is not good enough to win
If you want rebuilding and youth, go watch the AFL, go see a team like the Melbourne Demons use that excuse every single week.
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Condemned666 wrote:"Youth?" "rebuilding?"
Those words are excuses for a team that is not good enough to win
If you want rebuilding and youth, go watch the AFL, go see a team like the Melbourne Demons use that excuse every single week. Funny, we were rebuilding this year and still won games.
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Benjo wrote: Funny, we were rebuilding this year and still won games.
I would like to say I would be glad to see the back of the Edwards boys but on the back is where you can identify the players' names on the kits, so thats no good :-k
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not MATHEMATICALLY last.... still have a -5 goal difference to Hear'ts -6.... so we're still in the hunt to avoid the wooden spoon ... here'ya Kenny, something for you to gee up the fellas with this week...
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Condemned666 wrote:"Youth?" "rebuilding?"
Those words are excuses for a team that is not good enough to win
If you want rebuilding and youth, go watch the AFL, go see a team like the Melbourne Demons use that excuse every single week. FMD. Glory have been trying the tried and true method for the past 8 seasons of paying too high for old players that under perform for a coach that had NFI. That paid dividends with no top two finishes or ACL, the only foundation club to achieve these lofty heights. It was about time the club tried something different. Back to grass roots, local players and coaches, old names at the club to get the fans back. Plus there was a 3 year strategy the coach wanted to employ built around local talent retention. But hey, why wait three years when the club can revert to old ways in a matter of weeks. It's paying handsome dividends now. Being Sunday and all: Whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. Here endeth the lesson.
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Condemned666 wrote:Benjo wrote: Funny, we were rebuilding this year and still won games.
I would like to say I would be glad to see the back of the Edwards boys but on the back is where you can identify the players' names on the kits, so thats no good :-k Yup, get rid of the Edwards boys they are young and local talent and play for Australian representative teams. They must be the problem. Let's keep a 36yo hack. :oops:
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I'm happy now. Have heard the coach say, "not mathematically impossible". All is good.
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