Wait, what? I know he's a Qld boy and perhaps would've made sense under Mulvey a couple of years ago but we have North, Donachie, Devere, LJackson, Bowles and if something strikes most of these guys down Stef can step up for the odd game. He's simply not needed at the Roar.

Yeah true, forgot about Devere.

I'm nervous. C'mon Kenny give us some signings.

I suppose we are waiting for the new CEO, and even then he will have to take some time to work out some better salary cap avoidance structures...

It's embarassing that Glory won't let McLaren go, especially given the precedents. He's only a want-away Eastern States lad anyway, let him go! He's hardly irreplaceable!

Please don't balls this up too, Glory!

http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/article/2015/06/18/independent-arbiter-settle-maclaren-glory-dispute

He doesn't want to be here, then good - let him go! We find as good a talent locally. Heck, Jesse Makarounas even been re-secured by Victory yet?! TBRH McLaren's infamous contract is partially what caused the Edwards Coup apparently and down-the-line contracts like that contributed to this cap drama. Paying top-dollar for glorified squaddies. Who needs this?! Why top dollar for 21 year olds from Victoria, by way of overseas, signed just as 'rotation players', when Glory can seek out 18-21 year olds, locally and give those hungry lads a chance to impress at A-League level?!

Edited by GloryPerth: 19/6/2015 02:12:25 AM

Ruben as a starter. Ouch. Sorry guys.

Ruben in the squad... ugh.

Despite things, I'm still the glass half full type as always - I think there's still a silver lining to come from all this, the well over-due youth over-haul as promised from Ali Edwards era. Perhaps it won't really come, proper - especially with some likely Veterans and VISAs lined up to understandably fill the void. But same time, Cap saga and some early signings (Oxborrow, Alex Grant and maybe some others), suggest that these circumstances 'may' be forcing a re-think and a re-investigation into promoting some more (cheaper) local youth for the fringes of the squad. In some ways they naturally have to anyway, given the departures of O'Neill, DDS and some others of that type.

Granted, I know the promise I speak of, ever exists whenever there is a 'clear-out' - a clear slate always looks nice and promising, the great potential of what could fulfil it. But we've been linked to great, highly promising and well-proven talents with us, like Ruka and the promise of prodigal signings like he could really re-invigorate this squad and bring some of that verve back to Perth. Goodness knows Glory and it's fans need some of that. Keeping rising Socceroo Josh Risdon is very important too. This team needs some of that heart, that local heart and such players will bring that. It's needed after such challenging times, threatening Glory's values to their core. This is a West Australian club, a club from a state who produces some top-class talent. It's talent Glory has ruefully missed out on too often, but they're slowly starting to latch onto some of that talent now and reap the rewards (Risdon, DDS etc). That's the path of light out of this miserable, corrupting mess.

Edited by GloryPerth: 19/6/2015 02:13:20 AM

Serious man?! The guy scored 9 goals as a sub.... Often played out of position in the 1st half of the season. Jamie is worth every cent.

Yeah - serious. In all this, look another way - Glory pushed beyond the cap for that extra quality, extra depth beyond permitted means. It means they had glorified super-subs who scored 9 goals off the bench and other 'starting level' quality, including a former Captain of the Jets as a rotation player and others. It was always just a little extravagant, but we saw the measurable difference in results. There were injuries or the odd absence, but hardly a dent - due to that depth. Now poor Glory, picked on because they're outsiders, they stick out, they don't fit the narrative aka aren't Melbourne or Sydney. That conspiracy aside, they got caught out pushing their luck too far. It was too good to be true. This is why the Salary Cap exists for equilibrium. They finally got caught out paying too much for that bit too much quality from over East. McLaren is just an archetypal example. Now he wants away out of the door with the rest of his Eastern States Mercenaries - to be fair, local boy Rostyn G' up and left in a hurry too. Anyway, good luck to them and fair enough - same goes for McLaren too. They all leave, some others stay - good for them too.

In all this, as I say, an opportunity to learn and re-value the local talent here. Promote the young local talent in our backyard, as Ali Edwards sought and as the club promised to pursue even post-Edwards coup (paraphrasing: 'Edwards was right about that, we concur with that philosophy'). Well now they have the chance, the chance to promote the next DDS, Risdons and co. In many ways you can't do that so well, when you have star-studded benches with recruits like Mclaren, Nichols and Zadkovich. In other ways that's why we saw Clisby, O'Neill, Woodcock and others also on their way out, as too Makarounas before them.

There's some natural, enforced, compromise. Glory will have to be reduced in their quality, via this and it's happening. That's a given and part of the consequences. But opportunity abounds and there's no reason they can't bounce back, via a more sustainable plan that has half a view to the med-long term, via developing the local talent, next local stars, aswell as instant success via a core of peak-age recruits. How on Earth did we sign the likes of DDS and Risdon in the first place?! They aren't random phenomena, there are others out there.

Edited by GloryPerth: 19/6/2015 08:14:07 AM

Glory will never have good youth retention whilst Sage wants to run with the big boys.

He wants to be in the ACL and sit in corporate boxes with Chinese steel making executives.

He wants that quick. He needs a quick fix.

Glory will have a run of last minute expensive signings of 30 year olds and they will get game time over the development of local youth.

To think any different is laudable but it really wont happen.

I'm sorry, I just can't see anything different happening next season, in fact it will be worse.

Glory should have strived to hold onto the youth players that left this season. They were partially seasoned and could have developed into better players with more game time with the gaps left by the fall out of the cap saga.

If Lowe is such a good developer of youth, then why have these players left?

I expect to see Glory in the bottom four next season and the ever reliance of high cost older players over the development of future talent.

I'm quite sick of seeing Glory being the nursery for A-League youth for other clubs and the meal ticket for A-League retirees.

The opposite needs to occur for sustained success.

To keep doing what they are doing is the recipe for sustained failure.

I don't disagree with you about Sage and his motivations but most of the younger players who have departed are no great loss IMO.

Davies was promising but as a specialist RB would always be behind Risdon. Playing Ferreira ahead of him at RB when Risdon was out last season was stupid. Don't blame him for going for the lure of international football either.

Clisby was accident prone and has gone from one bench to another. Fringe player at City who are poor. No great loss.

If O'Neill was any good he would have made it by now. Good luck to him at Sydney but can't see him getting much of a run other than in ACL where they have to play less visa players (similar to Makarounas at Victory).

O'Brien was an average NPL player at best and his signing never made any sense.

Woodcock is the real loss, especially with Jamieson now having departed although going to Sydney behind Gersbach seems to be an odd decision. Never recovered from the blow up with Andy Ord in the season before last.

Fair points.

Davies and Woodcock are big losses.

It just continues the narrative with Glory.

Any up and coming Glory youth would rightly think they will have very little chance to ever play with Glory.

That's crystal clear from my perspective.

Davies is only a big loss if we lose Risdon.
Losing Woodcock was poor management if they knew Jamieson was leaving.

There is a rumour going around the ex Hawthorn player Dipper is the new CEO of Glory. Surely it has to be trolling.

Hmm Hotrod, appreciate your 'pragmatic' or 'Realist', I guess, view. That both seems the case and is most likely, given history.

But thing is, DESPITE this history, this club in recent seasons did somehow recruit the talents the likes of Neville, Risdon, DDS, Woodcock and others. And even despite the prevailing tendency of recruitment at Glory, of signing peaking/peaked Eastern States veterans - they even now, are signing the likes of Oxborrow and Grant. Maybe I'm just glass half-full or more 'giving the benefit of the doubt' especially being soo early in pre-season and the lack of knowns, certainty, surrounding other signings and departures about this squad.

Infact, my almost deluded optimism sees me disagree on the inevitable fate come this late pre-season (Late run of 30-something vet signings) - I think the major differential from old is the 'Cap Scandal' and that could be the game-changer, combined with success of DDS, Risdon and co. This may conveniently prove that backing a lil more youth in the squad is beneficial, not just in a cost-effective way, but on the park too. With the pressure to re-organise and squeeze in the contracts of Keogh and others the budget within the cap is still naturally tighter, even with the departures (Glory needs some cap room for some top-quality VISAs too). So there may be some further enforced restriction too, especially with that cap spotlight on them. Lowe has a 'reputation', or more career history, in working with WA's top young talent, so this is his chance to prove it this more scrutinised, coming season.





It's an utterly frustrating blow to lose Woodcock, especially in-light of Jamieson's departure. NEITHER will be easily replaced as it seems finding a local LB of any kind of quality, young and old, just seems rare in this country. The Gersbach's don't come round too often it seems and it's a strange irony that, that is where Woodcock has ended up, just to be deputy again.



Is there some kind of in-joke we're missing there? Any AFL fans know? Does sound silly - less he's suddenly and drastically upgraded his skill-set from being the long-time boundary rider for Ch7's AFL coverage.

Edited by GloryPerth: 21/6/2015 10:37:48 PM

Davies has moved to Malaysia along with Cam Edwards a huge backwards step for them but probably both guys level.

Ditto O'Brien to NPL.

O'Neill gets a 2 year contract at SFC but Woodcock only 1 year, probably tells us something about how much Arnie thinks of Woodcock.

Can't see Clisby tying down the LB roll at Heart this season.

All in all I think these guys will make as much an impact as Jesse Makaronis who left Perth over 3 years ago and is still no closer to being a regular starter in the A-league.

Indeed, this is as I say, an opportunity to overvalue the local talent here. Heck, if they are young they warrant a place in the rotation. We must continue to follow Ali Edwards and promote the young local talent in our backyard regardless of quality as it is all about the rotation.

Clisby, O'Neill, Woodcock and the others also on their way out, as too Makarounas before them not because they weren't good enough but because the management weren't glass half full people. Heck they were young, and would have automatically got better given game time. I've seen it happen in Football Manager all the time.

Heck I say, Glory might be reduced in their quality, via this and it's happening. That's a given and part of the consequences and whatnot. But opportunity abounds and there's no reason they can't bounce back, via a more sustainable plan, via developing the local talent, via a core of peak-age recruits.

^ lol I'm seeing double again. Welcome back - your flattery is apparently of the sincerest form.

I guess my pov here can be pigeon-holed and parroted as above, perhaps even more efficiency so than that of my doing. ;) :p

Just on Makarounas, Begbie, he still seems to show promise at Victory and it is a quite strong attacking rotation out that way, arguably one of the strongest in the league with Berisha, Archie, Barbarouses and the like. Just a shame the nature of his departure during Fergie-era. I know in the above mocking it's presented I over-do the argument for WA's young talent the other way (I don't disagree with any of you on the talents let go, except Woodcock), but most of us recognise that the club and it's culture hasn't been conducive to fostering the local talent as some of Glory's rivals have been. I see no reason why that can't change though and perhaps it may be.

Edited by GloryPerth: 23/6/2015 05:42:09 PM

I still need to get around to renewing my membership next year. I can't say that I'm really feeling enthused about it.




*shudders*

Indeed although we wait with eternal optimism, albeit the light of reason, hodge podges, mish mashs and such like serve to confuse those of us who seek a short and simple exchange of views and whatnot.

Heck, the arrival of Dipper could inspire me to break my own record of 78 words in a single sentence, via the overuse of the word via, and implementing my own rotation, as I say, promoting the use of more obscure words as my deluded optimism sees me disagree on the inevitable fate of my discourse into a long winded paragraph that very few people will even get to the end of, let alone respond to as the thread continues and my contributions pass others like ships in the night as I like to say, with soo much anticipation until I stop typing because even I have forgotten what the point of the sentence was when I started out ...

Can't wait until multis season is over. When does the first round of 32 start?

Jerrad Tyson to Glory on a two year contract.

http://www.perthglory.com.au/article/glory-boosts-goalkeeping-ranks/13ej91ccthzxf1mym1bn8ynisr

So we've signed Tyson.

Not bad.... But not great either.

Seemed to be very popular with fans at WSW, with lots of community engagement. Probably just the sort of player Glory needs after last season.

Hope this now means we aren't signing Covic as a stopgap.

There is a story on the fourfourtwo website about a European move for Risdon being blocked over a transfer fee but the link is broken.

Yeah, he's superrrrr engaged.

My friends! Does this contracts list for your club look accurate to you? Biscuitman has been pretty good at helping me over in the contracts thread, so thanks for that.

http://au.fourfourtwo.com/forums/default.aspx?g=posts&t=92547

PERTH GLORY   
Head Coach: Kenny Lowe 15/16   

2015/16   
Diogo Ferreira
Richard Garcia
Alex Grant
Chris Harold
Andy Keogh (V)
Jamie Maclaren
Joshua Risdon   
Sidnei (V)   
Jordan Thurtell
Michael Thwaite (A)
Ruben Zadkovich

2016/17   
Dino Djulbić
Antony Golec   
Nebojša Marinković (V)   (M)
Jerrad Tyson

Cheers for any help!

Lowe contract is to end of 16/17

http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/article/2015/02/17/lowe-re-signs-drama-hit-perth-glory

Will try to find out length of Alex Grant contract (surely is longer than 1 year)

1 year deal with option of another year.