WGMG: Bought some flat pack furniture online and it was supposed to be delivered this coming Tuesday or Thursday when I'm not working. 
I come up the street and press the button for our roller door and i see this box slam to the ground... 1.8m high leaning against the roller door... we'd also had a massive downpour and for fucks sake... it was out the front of our house. 
Could not believe it, doesn't seem to be any damage but startrack are utterly useless. 

Wife got it at 2am... just bloody annoying. Surely this stuff just pushes the people who are on the fence to vote no. Sure that's not a reason to vote no but that's how people react. 

WGMG: getting a 'vote yes' text message on the weekend. It's just as bad as church door knockers harassing you on a Saturday.

Most people grow up and find something useful to do with their short existence

Main problem with this vote, you either get 2 sausage sizzles or none at all.

Somehow I am still one of the top posters in the Australian Football section :lol:

Relevant Betoota article :laugh:

ABS Warns Yes Votes Don’t Count Unless They’re Instagramed With Caption And Emojis

CLANCY OVERELL | Editor | CONTACT

Sending off your same-sex marriage survey response without instagraming yourself filling it in, or placing the envelope into the post box may render the vote ineligible, the Australian Bureau of Statistics has confirmed.

As Australia takes part in a voluntary postal survey on the issue of same-sex marriage. The Australian Bureau of Statistics (ABS) who are hosting the survey alongside the Australian Electoral Commission (AEC), say they are concerned some Australians are not getting fully involved in the democratic process

While, the ABS says some people will be entitled to a paperless option in the survey. Particularly, people who are going overseas, people with disability and people who live in remote communities and Indigenous town camps.

However, for the inner-city post codes, the Bureau of Statistics say that postal survey responses will be accepted but must be accompanied with an Instagram post or story, just to identify the fact that they are being sent of by the most important demographic in the country and therefore twice as important as regular votes.

“What we need our inner-city, university-educated youth to do is let us know they are voting via both the post and social media” says Minister for Small Business Michael McCormack.

“Preferably with the caption ‘yaasss’ or ‘so much yes!’ – that way it’s easier for us to know how important your vote is”
https://www.betootaadvocate.com/breaking-news/abs-warns-yes-votes-dont-count-unless-theyre-instagramed-with-caption-and-emojis/

I agree, ET has been on the decline along with Western culture. I blame everyone except me 

Hi pal feel free to PM me or any other mod with specific concerns. Cheers.

WGMG - Extra Time being deserted and all discussions, especially political discussions, being muted the minute someone shows any passion for their point of view.
This place has been over-moderated for far too long and now is boring as hell. I say short of threats of physical violence, all arguments and discussions should be welcomed.

Well yes.  My mate's Dad, sadly passed on, was instrumental in getting the mardi gra up and running in the 70's (even featured in an ABC doco) when 'poofta bashing' was an acceptable night out of entertainment.

Reached it's nadir in the 80's when gangs used to actively hunt homosexuals and either bash them within an each of their life or throw them off the cliffs at the gap.

Absolutely disgraceful and not that long ago.

Having said that if you want to say you've voted one way or the other that's OK by me.


PS Old mate that's headbutted Tony is a fucking idiot.  Well done flog.

It's almost as if they're spreading the good news..

Fracking A. The other night ABC news had a news story about the small group of people who campaigned to make homosexuality legal in Tasmania. Now those are some people who deserve applause. Its much harder to be on the right side of history when your view isn't shared by 90% of people under 50. 

She shits.

She stinks when she doesn't shower.

She is massively insecure about her looks. 

Remember that and stop fawning over her...

Now- WGMG: People who feel the need to tell everybody on social media that they voted 'Yes'. Like seriously, could you be any more desperate to virtue-signal how progressive and tolerant you think you are? Hooray, you voted in favour of SSM! Good for you! Would you like a pat on the back or your name and photograph to appear in a big, leather-bound book titled 'People who were on The Right Side of History (TM) in 2017'?

The simple answer to that is, you wouldn't be supporting those people. You'd be supporting the principle of marriage equality. What some group of ferals do doesn't diminish the merit of allowing same-sex couples the right to marry.

And all people, particularly the ones who say it doesnt affect them, have to remember that it directly affects a minority now and for the future. It could potentially affect those peoples kids and grandkids too. It is extremely selfish imo to just assume this isn't important solely because you aren't going to put a ring on the same genitals that you have.

A good friend actually mentioned this as he's on the fence. He saw a yes campaign targeting a church in Brisbane and said "why would I support people who intimidate others into doing what they want, this isn't 1930's Germany." I can't say I'm surprised the debate has become feral, I just didn't think it would be this bad.

I resent having to vote at all. It doesn't affect me and I feel like I do not have the right to affect the relationships of others. Love between 2 consenting adults is love.

I don't think you can draw that analogy... there have been alot of propaganda from the yes talking about how its just the same as black/civil rights in the u.s in the 60s. That's a whole different kettle of fish. 

A black much like a woman 100 years a ago was obviously just that. You couldn't hide it, you couldn't pretend you weren't. So you were vilified every second of your life and there was nothing you could do about it. 

A gay person now... is currently not allowed to make the choice to get married... in common society they are not getting lynched, not at the back of the bus or not allowed to own
Property, if they got raped they arent blamed for it.
There are major difference...

Again I'm not for the no vote... but the way its gone is such a bitch fight.

Yes it's frankly a ridiculous argument but they fall into a different category to those who say "oh I was going to vote yes but those GetUp/Socialist Alliance/<other activist group> are terrible, I voted no to spite them". 

I know a few people voting no. The most common trend is believing that we'll open Pandora's box by legalising it. That and if we vote in SSM then the consequences will be dire. It's unfounded propaganda but its something I keep hearing.

Oh of course both sides are terrible. Both sides need to remember that we all have to live together once this is done.

I don't think so.  How can I tell if I am ? 

It was a foul.

To the same sex marriage postal vote, or the "Did Fabio Grosso dive in 2006" vote? 

Are you doing it out of spite?

I'll be voting 'No'

For the people that say this I can only think of 2 possible explanations:
1. They're not really voting no out of spite but they are using it as an excuse to hide their homophobia
2. They're such weak and poor human beings that they can't look beyond their own hurt feelings to vote on the principle of whether to give the same human rights to a group of people as everyone else

Either way I don't have much respect for them.

The whole thing is disgusting.  No majority should ever vote on the rights of a minority.  

To draw an analogy it would be like stepping back a 100 years and saying we're going to have a plebiscite on whether or not we're going to allow women the vote and by the way, only the men will be voting on that."

It's a joke.

There is discrimination from both sides. Eg:

http://www.theherald.com.au/story/4891538/hunter-catholic-school-principal-discourages-teachers-from-publicly-supporting-same-sex-marriage/

The idiotic, frustrating part of all this are the religious objections.  They are arcing up because the 'legal' definition of marriage will be changed.  The irony being of course is that no marriage is 'legal' until it's registered with the government through Births, Deaths and Marriages.

That is to say even their own marriages aren't 'legal' until that happens.  So WHAT THE FUCK?

Their other idiotic claim is they'll be hauled over the coals and dragged through the courts if they don't say same sex marriage is OK.

Nothing could be further from the truth.  All they have to say is 'according to our teachings we believe this but in Australia the law says this'.  This disingenuous argument they're running is a farce.  In exactly the same way that a Moslem would say 'well we don't eat pork, here in Australia they do' that is all that religious organisations have to say. 

Their 'no' campaign is very clever.  "It's ok to say no" is a very smart slogan on their behalf.

And on another matter I agree with Rusty when he says some people will vote 'no' out of spite.



And Tony Abbot, what a cockhead.  "If you don't like political correctness vote no"  

Retarded dickhead.  "If you don't like paying for sauce when you buy a pie, vote no"

"If you like Fords more than Holdens, vote no"

What the fuck has one got to do with the other?