Don't know about anyone else, but tbph, I'm really failing to see how you can find that 'disrespectful'.

In other words

"I want to win trophies, Arsenal are either not good enough or don't want to win trophies"

This.

1) He feels he cant win trophies at Arsenal
2) Believes we lack the ambition to fix it
3) Disrespects our recent signings in the process.

Agreed.



1) When's the last time Arsenal won a trophy? Has RVP won a trophy there? How long has RVP been at Arsenal?
2) He's been there long enough to understand the direction of the club - its transfer policy, the sort of players it tries to capture, etc - and he simply disagrees with this approach.
3) Further - He's said nothing about the signings and is talking about the club's strategy/philosophy, rather than their ability or capability to win trophies.

Robin didn't say a bad word against the club in that statement. He disagrees with the way the club want to move foward. Is that a crime? He's not trying to tell the club how it should be run, he disagrees with them but he doesn't think he's bigger than the club and he's not trying to make them run the club the way he wants. There's no reason to hate him for that, I mean FFS most Arsenal fans agree with the reasons he's put foward for not signing a new contract.

Players like Cesc, RVP, have nothing but respect for the club, have never said a bad word about Arsenal and have left us with such fantastic memories. I don't want those memories to be tarnished, I don't want to re-watch Robins heroics this season with a bitter taste in my mouth especially if there's no real reason to be bitter. Cesc, went on strike to force through his move to Barca, dick move, but he still has nothing but respect for the club so I choose to remember him in a good way. Even Henry, that handball versus Ireland but when he came back this year I fucking loved every second of it.

Then there are players like Nasri, Adebayor. Players that have slagged off the club after they have left. Players that only seem interested in becoming even more disgustingly rich and also players that didn't really give us all that much in the time they were here - Nasri only gave us half a season. These are the players I don't like.

This is what I think too. I am now a disrespectful cunt who hates the Arsenal and should be despised by all who support the club.

Let's face it; if you didn't grow up loving Arsenal and was offered over 200,000 pounds a week plus a chance to win big trophies would you turn it down? I'd snatch it with both hands. I'd even think about it as an Arsenal fan. When you're too old to play football you'd pay millions to win trophies; he's getting older, he won't have the chance soon.

Don't mention the war, right?

And the new GK away kit which I love :lol:



Edited by sydneycroatia58: 12/7/2012 01:17:43 AM

Not a fan of either but I don't really care about the GK keeper so much.

Pink and purple, I guess Andre Santos was right.

better than last yr... quite a young crowd modelling it

He actually did grow up as an Arsenal fan:

He probably had a heap of shirts like most young kids. He has been on record saying that Real Madrid was his favourite club growing up.

Nothing in it though.

Re: the kits: I thought Liverpool were the ones marching in a Pride event. :lol:

That keeper kit makes me cringe.

Exactly, loads of kids have loads of different shirts. I thought he supported Feyenoord personally. In fact, I'd be willing to wager that particular Arsenal kit has "Dennis Bergkamp" or "Marc Overmars" on it.

Looks as if his bed covers say Feyenoord.

i dont mind the purple top tbh,

on the robin situation im still hoping he wont be leaving, he is still to have a meeting with the chairmen when he returns from holidays so it may still be sorted out

He at least had some affinity to Arsenal even if it wasn't his #1 club.
Maybe just his favourite EPL club.

Ivé heard the Real Madrid thing too. If he stays here another year and leaves on a free I think that would be his first choice if he's able to get regular game time there.
For various reasons, not just being a fan as a kid.

Good to see the club keeping faith with Szcesny - don't think you'd be able to sign a keeper with a kit like that :lol:

I actually like the away kit tbh, and I fucking love the keeper kit, mostly because of how much Woj complained about the kit a few years ago that had some pink on the sleeves :lol:

He's always said he had a bunch of football jerseys for that picture and he was trying to choose between Milan and Arsenal and chose Arsenal because of Bergkamp. I wouldn't say he grew up as a fan of the club.

The only player we have who can say that they did genuinely grow up as a fan is Carl Jenkinson.

Edited by sydneycroatia58: 12/7/2012 01:41:33 PM

Just a few thoughts on the new away kit. The more I see it the more I like it. It's a chance to have ourselves a real iconic kind of kit. The last jersey we had that I can remember having the potential to have that effect was the gold jersey of the early 00's. I also cannot express how happy i am to have hooped socks again. If we could go back to red and white hooped socks on the home kit I would be a very happy man.

Here's a picture everyone has been waiting for



Steve Bould working with the defence. I like to think the club put this picture up on purpose :lol:

Also looks like Kyle Bartley will not be going out on loan again and will be part of the first team this season. Will be good to see how he gets on.

From all reports Bartley will be a solid premier league defender.

More rumors that we're back in for Afellay. Said it before, but he will be a star at a club like us.

So the answer is yes, Giroud was brought in as a replacement for RVP (even if potentially for the season after next).

Hope for the best, plan for the worst. This is hardly a shocking revelation, but this type of thinking has been lacking over the last few years, Im glad they are learning.

This, Giroud was an insurance policy, and I for one am glad the club did it. I mean how long have we been saying that in the summer you need to buy before you sell, and this is exactly what we've done.

TV5 doesn't look all that impressed with what he's being told - "Defend? What for the entire 90 mins? Surely I can go forward and blaze a few shots at goals."

Yeah don't think he took to kindly to Steve telling him he shouldn't be further forward than our striker for the whole 90 mins :lol:

The one thing I hope to see more of now that Bould is involved with the first team is a lot more near post flick ons from corners :lol:

Djourou: What do you mean, "clear it", Steve?