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bypopulardemand wrote:sydneycroatia58 wrote:benelsmore wrote:Villa Boas to whinge about keeper only getting a yellow?
It should have been red :lol: Could've been, but seen them not given as reds before. It was against Ashley, so I'll let it slide :lol: Anyway, they should've had a penalty against them, and possibly a red for Bosingwa anyway :lol: Why would it have been a red? Last man? Violent conduct? I saw no red card offence.... I don't think it was a red card personally, but I wouldn't have been totally surprised if he'd been given one for violent conduct. Seen them given for less.
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This pic is all kinds of awesome.
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Good win for Arsenal but did Wenger really think that bringing in a Brazilian wingback would help their defence
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moofa wrote:Good win for Arsenal but did Wenger really think that bringing in a Brazilian wingback would help their defence Bringing in Santos wasn't supposed to fix our defensive problems rather than give us an extra option at LB where we only had Gibbs. Mertesacker was the one signed with the intention of fixing our backline.
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sydneycroatia58 wrote:bypopulardemand wrote:sydneycroatia58 wrote:benelsmore wrote:Villa Boas to whinge about keeper only getting a yellow?
It should have been red :lol: Could've been, but seen them not given as reds before. It was against Ashley, so I'll let it slide :lol: Anyway, they should've had a penalty against them, and possibly a red for Bosingwa anyway :lol: Why would it have been a red? Last man? Violent conduct? I saw no red card offence.... I don't think it was a red card personally, but I wouldn't have been totally surprised if he'd been given one for violent conduct. Seen them given for less. 99% of the time if the keeper brings down a player its red. Can't say i've seen many yellows in that situation. If I were Sczezny i'd have lead with the elbow and done a good number on Cashley.
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Szczesny :lol: First Bale, now Cole, who's next?
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benelsmore wrote:sydneycroatia58 wrote:bypopulardemand wrote:sydneycroatia58 wrote:benelsmore wrote:Villa Boas to whinge about keeper only getting a yellow?
It should have been red :lol: Could've been, but seen them not given as reds before. It was against Ashley, so I'll let it slide :lol: Anyway, they should've had a penalty against them, and possibly a red for Bosingwa anyway :lol: Why would it have been a red? Last man? Violent conduct? I saw no red card offence.... I don't think it was a red card personally, but I wouldn't have been totally surprised if he'd been given one for violent conduct. Seen them given for less. 99% of the time if the keeper brings down a player its red. Can't say i've seen many yellows in that situation. If I were Sczezny i'd have lead with the elbow and done a good number on Cashley. That isn't just random discrimination against keepers... It's based on the rules of football. Learn them
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benelsmore wrote:sydneycroatia58 wrote:bypopulardemand wrote:sydneycroatia58 wrote:benelsmore wrote:Villa Boas to whinge about keeper only getting a yellow?
It should have been red :lol: Could've been, but seen them not given as reds before. It was against Ashley, so I'll let it slide :lol: Anyway, they should've had a penalty against them, and possibly a red for Bosingwa anyway :lol: Why would it have been a red? Last man? Violent conduct? I saw no red card offence.... I don't think it was a red card personally, but I wouldn't have been totally surprised if he'd been given one for violent conduct. Seen them given for less. 99% of the time if the keeper brings down a player its red. Can't say i've seen many yellows in that situation. If I were Sczezny i'd have lead with the elbow and done a good number on Cashley. That's because more often than not when a keeper brings down player he's the last man and denying a clear goal scoring opportunity. Szczesny didn't do that, he had Koscielny and another defender behind him when the foul was made.
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sydneycroatia58 wrote: That's because more often than not when a keeper brings down player he's the last man and denying a clear goal scoring opportunity. Szczesny didn't do that, he had Koscielny and another defender behind him when the foul was made.
I agree but that goes against everything you have said before. It has nothing to do with the last man. If a clear goal scoring opportunity is denied then it is red.
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BusbyBabe wrote:sydneycroatia58 wrote: That's because more often than not when a keeper brings down player he's the last man and denying a clear goal scoring opportunity. Szczesny didn't do that, he had Koscielny and another defender behind him when the foul was made.
I agree but that goes against everything you have said before. It has nothing to do with the last man. If a clear goal scoring opportunity is denied then it is red. This. Chelsea had a player sent off for the same exact thing last week. Poor call for me.
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BusbyBabe wrote:sydneycroatia58 wrote: That's because more often than not when a keeper brings down player he's the last man and denying a clear goal scoring opportunity. Szczesny didn't do that, he had Koscielny and another defender behind him when the foul was made.
I agree but that goes against everything you have said before. It has nothing to do with the last man. If a clear goal scoring opportunity is denied then it is red. I know, but it wasn't a clear goal scoring opportunity, because as I said, Szczesny had Koscielny and another defender already covering behind him. If Koscielny was only coming across at the time of the foul like Terry was last week it would've been a red, but because he was already across covering it's not a red.
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benelsmore wrote:BusbyBabe wrote:sydneycroatia58 wrote: That's because more often than not when a keeper brings down player he's the last man and denying a clear goal scoring opportunity. Szczesny didn't do that, he had Koscielny and another defender behind him when the foul was made.
I agree but that goes against everything you have said before. It has nothing to do with the last man. If a clear goal scoring opportunity is denied then it is red. This. Chelsea had a player sent off for the same exact thing last week. Poor call for me. Like I said, it's not the same. Koscielny was already across covering Szczesny. Terry wasn't last week.
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That is where it is such a grey area. I can have an "opportunity" to score from 35 yards out with two players on the line if the goal keeper isn't there.
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BusbyBabe wrote:That is where it is such a grey area. I can have an "opportunity" to score from 35 yards out with two players on the line if the goal keeper isn't there. It's a fucked up rule. The other thing with Cole, is that unlike SWP last week, Cole was going away from goal, which may be another reason it's only a yellow. Edited by sydneycroatia58: 30/10/2011 02:01:13 PM
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sydneycroatia58 wrote:benelsmore wrote:BusbyBabe wrote:sydneycroatia58 wrote: That's because more often than not when a keeper brings down player he's the last man and denying a clear goal scoring opportunity. Szczesny didn't do that, he had Koscielny and another defender behind him when the foul was made.
I agree but that goes against everything you have said before. It has nothing to do with the last man. If a clear goal scoring opportunity is denied then it is red. This. Chelsea had a player sent off for the same exact thing last week. Poor call for me. Like I said, it's not the same. Koscielny was already across covering Szczesny. Terry wasn't last week. Thats a bit of a 50/50 call. You could argue Terry could have blocked the shot as well. 50/50 call, you see more of them given than not. Count your blessings.
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benelsmore wrote:sydneycroatia58 wrote:benelsmore wrote:BusbyBabe wrote:sydneycroatia58 wrote: That's because more often than not when a keeper brings down player he's the last man and denying a clear goal scoring opportunity. Szczesny didn't do that, he had Koscielny and another defender behind him when the foul was made.
I agree but that goes against everything you have said before. It has nothing to do with the last man. If a clear goal scoring opportunity is denied then it is red. This. Chelsea had a player sent off for the same exact thing last week. Poor call for me. Like I said, it's not the same. Koscielny was already across covering Szczesny. Terry wasn't last week. Thats a bit of a 50/50 call. You could argue Terry could have blocked the shot as well. 50/50 call, you see more of them given than not. Count your blessings. You can't really argue that when straight after the foul SWP was in on goal and Terry was nowhere near him.
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Koscielney has been earning some real plaudits lately, a strong dependable figure and I wouldn't be surprised to see Mertesacker dropped for Vermaelan in the season. FUCK OFF CHAVVERS!! Cashley, whats the score?
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The sneezy thing really hasnt caused any fuss or controversy, there were no complaints really from the Chelsea players at the time... it was a clear cut yellow
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bypopulardemand wrote:The sneezy thing really hasnt caused any fuss or controversy, there were no complaints really from the Chelsea players at the time... it was a clear cut yellow I think if it was an outfield player it would cause more controversy. No one really cares if the keeper is sent or not just as long as the right decision is made in terms of it being a free kick/penalty or not.
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BusbyBabe wrote:bypopulardemand wrote:The sneezy thing really hasnt caused any fuss or controversy, there were no complaints really from the Chelsea players at the time... it was a clear cut yellow I think if it was an outfield player it would cause more controversy. No one really cares if the keeper is sent or not just as long as the right decision is made in terms of it being a free kick/penalty or not. I dont agree... it wasnt a clear goalscoring 50/50... shouldnt have created any controversy.. So do you know if its true Busby? Did Koscielny leave the stadium with 50M quid in his back pocket?
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Pretend someone else said what I said. I am agreeing with you.
Was just making the point if the keeper was the last man and a defender brought him down on goal there would be a bigger call for a red from Chelsea.
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bypopulardemand wrote: So do you know if its true Busby? Did Koscielny leave the stadium with 50M quid in his back pocket?
Most expensive back pocket in World Football. Messi and now Torres in there.
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I reckon Koscielny can really lift for these big games and show he can be very good, like last night and the Barca game. It is the other 35 games he has a problem with.
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BusbyBabe wrote:I reckon Koscielny can really lift for these big games and show he can be very good, like last night and the Barca game. It is the other 35 games he has a problem with. Last season his problem was the league, he'd play well in Europe but struggle in the league. This season he's been excellent in both and easily one of our most improved players, and easily our best defender so far.
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Robin has now broken the record for gols away from home in a calender year with 15. The previous record was 14, and there's still another 4 away games in 2011.
It's also the most goals a player has had for us after 10 games since Thierry in 04-05
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Well played Arsenal. Must say Song is an absolute beast.
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Have to sy Andre Santos had one of the most up and down games I can remember from a single player :lol:
Horrible first half, looked way off the pace, continually caught out of position, giving away possession too easily and just couldn't get anything right.
Come the 2nd half it was a totally different story, looked so much more energized. Attempted 25% more passes, upped his pass completion rate from 71% at HT to 81% at FT, performed all his interceptions, made 20% more successful tackles, and prevented Mata from scoring an open goal, twice.
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Quote:[size=6] 'We always looked dangerous in the game'[/size] on Chelsea's third goal…I was very unhappy but overall I must say I can only praise my team. We didn't look disappointed on the pitch and we kept going. We knew that we needed a win here and we kept going to win the game. Overall I feel that they had a good team performance and they have shown great spirit. When you go 2-1 down just before half time it's difficult but we came out in the second half with a complete desire to go forward. In the second half I felt we were much better defensively than in the first half. We gave too many chances away in the first half - it's certainly down to the fact that Chelsea have a lot going forward. But we always looked dangerous through the whole game and I hope the team strengthens its belief with a performance like that to focus on getting stronger and stronger. on Robin van Persie…He is of course on fire and he takes advantage through his class. We attack a lot and we create chances overall of course. The intelligence of his movement around the box and the accuracy of his finishing is exceptional. on Laurent Koscielny's performance…I think he was outstanding. He was the one at the back in the first half who looked strong. But I felt in the first half we gave them too much room at the back and in midfield and in the second half we got much tighter. We kept being dangerous going forward but we were less in trouble defensively. on encouraging the team to slow down at the end…You know how it is on the bench when you are 4-3 up with two minutes to do - you do not necessarily encourage your team to be crazy. But this is the brand of our team and our Club. Sometimes you get rewarded for it and sometimes you pay for it. on previous Chelsea teams being so open…I have to think about that. I think one year we won here 3-2 when Kanu scored two goals and we were 2-1 down. It depends on the games because up until now Chelsea didn't look completely open at all. They looked very secure defensively in the games they have played up until now. It is our quality today that opened them up and we kept throwing absolutely everything forward. on what has changed for his team…What has changed is that we got half of the team in on August 31 and we had to qualify for the Champions League. We had to rebuild a complete unity in the way we want to play football. Every win makes you stronger as well. So now the players get used to the way we play so we get stronger but we have to remain humble, keep focus and work very hard together. There is still some ground to make up to come into a stronger position in the league and teams in front of us do not drop many points. But that quality we have shown today should make us more confident. on Aaron Ramsey…What people forget about players like Wojciech, Ramsey and Wilshere are all 19-20 years old. They are top quality and it is normal that they improve from game to game and from year to year. on a strong run of form…It's the best habit in my job. We are more consistent now and we have to keep that going now. Tuesday night will be another test where we will have to focus and produce that quality again, that's what is at stake. on a big statement…We played some games like Liverpool and Manchester United when we played with ten men. But we did not have the team at that time - I feel as though we are much stronger now. on goals conceded in big games this season...It's a good question because is it down to the fact that there are so many good offensive players on the pitch or is it down to a team scoring more goals and opening themselves up? Or is it down to the fact that the top teams are a bit more fragile defensively? It is difficult to answer that, we need more games to do that. http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/-we-always-looked-dangerous-through-the-game-
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fukin love it
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