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Are you really going to claim that Mertesacker with his 102 caps for Germany is a shit player? Really? Surely you're not serious..

Even Christoph Metzelder was capped 47 times for Germany. No, I've always been a fan of Mertesacker. I stood by him in his early days at the club when Arsenal fans thought he was rubbish.


Just clarifying, no harm done. I don't think many of the sane Arsenal fans thought he was rubbish anyway, just that he wasn't suited to the suicidally high line Wenger had us playing in 11-12, but that's a discussion for a different day.


To be fair I talked to many Arsenal fans (sane ones too) who didn't, and to an extent still don't, like Mertesacker because of his pace/turning circle.

Per is a god of a man, I love him.

Per is life , Per is love . I'm tempted to cop some of his bfg gear
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http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11670/9370089/transfer-news-arsenal-in-contact-with-newcastle-over-mathieu-debuchy?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
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MvFCArsenal16.8 wrote:
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Are you really going to claim that Mertesacker with his 102 caps for Germany is a shit player? Really? Surely you're not serious..

Even Christoph Metzelder was capped 47 times for Germany. No, I've always been a fan of Mertesacker. I stood by him in his early days at the club when Arsenal fans thought he was rubbish.


Just clarifying, no harm done. I don't think many of the sane Arsenal fans thought he was rubbish anyway, just that he wasn't suited to the suicidally high line Wenger had us playing in 11-12, but that's a discussion for a different day.


To be fair I talked to many Arsenal fans (sane ones too) who didn't, and to an extent still don't, like Mertesacker because of his pace/turning circle.

Per is a god of a man, I love him.

Per is life , Per is love . I'm tempted to cop some of his bfg gear

I think Koscielny and Mertesacker both have the individual qualities of a disabled donkey but as a partnership, they work really well together and are very solid. To be fair to Koscielny though, he has improved a lot since arriving.
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BusbyBabe wrote:
I think Koscielny and Mertesacker both have the individual qualities of a disabled donkey


:lol:
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pv4 wrote:
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I think Koscielny and Mertesacker both have the individual qualities of a disabled donkey


:lol:


I think he's 100% wrong :lol: but can see where he's coming from.
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:lol: If you're into this sort of thing Sanchez's agent has apparently just started following the Santi, Özil, Giroud, Miki and the clubs official account on twitter.
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sydneycroatia58 wrote:
:lol: If you're into this sort of thing Sanchez's agent has apparently just started following the Santi, Özil, Giroud, Miki and the clubs official account on twitter.



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pv4 wrote:
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:lol: If you're into this sort of thing Sanchez's agent has apparently just started following the Santi, Özil, Giroud, Miki and the clubs official account on twitter.



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pv4 wrote:
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I think Koscielny and Mertesacker both have the individual qualities of a disabled donkey


:lol:


I wonder what he thinks of Smalling and Evans then :lol:
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jlm8695 wrote:
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I think Koscielny and Mertesacker both have the individual qualities of a disabled donkey


:lol:


I wonder what he thinks of Smalling and Evans then :lol:

They have played important roles in a few titles.

I know we always rate our players higher because we watch them more than other teams, that's natural but it's amazing how many people don't rate Evans. He has been United's best defender for the past 3 or so seasons. He is our best ball playing defender too, that included Rio's time at the club.
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No I rate Evans, he's just not as good as Mertesacker or Koscieleny.
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jlm8695 wrote:
No I rate Evans, he's just not as good as Mertesacker or Koscieleny.

Well Arsenal fans would agree with that, United fans would never agree with that. That's a never ending debate :lol:
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No I rate Evans, he's just not as good as Mertesacker or Koscieleny.

Well Arsenal fans would agree with that, United fans would never agree with that. That's a never ending debate :lol:


Well we have stats to back our side up, you have biased opinions (Y).
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jlm8695 wrote:
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No I rate Evans, he's just not as good as Mertesacker or Koscieleny.

Well Arsenal fans would agree with that, United fans would never agree with that. That's a never ending debate :lol:


Well we have stats to back our side up, you have biased opinions (Y).

What do stats have to do with it :lol:

Might as well judge them on who has the better YouTube reel.
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jlm8695 wrote:
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No I rate Evans, he's just not as good as Mertesacker or Koscieleny.

Well Arsenal fans would agree with that, United fans would never agree with that. That's a never ending debate :lol:


Well we have stats to back our side up, you have biased opinions (Y).


:lol: got him again
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BusbyBabe wrote:
What do stats have to do with it :lol:


:lol:
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I forgot that United fans don't believe in stats if it goes against their opinions, because obviously their opinions are worth more than actual legitimate facts.
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jlm8695 wrote:
I forgot that United fans don't believe in stats if it goes against their opinions, because obviously their opinions are worth more than actual legitimate facts.

Stats show what a player does, not what he doesn't do.

No doubting they can give an insight into aspects of a players game but to judge a player on his stats is pretty stupid. It's not moneyball.
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jlm8695 wrote:
I forgot that United fans don't believe in stats if it goes against their opinions, because obviously their opinions are worth more than actual legitimate facts.


[youtube]aZHvd0ks7Es[/youtube]
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For example, if defender A is playing and his team are dominating the game and he only has to make one tackle but defender B is under the pump and makes 10 tackles. Is defender B better because he made more tackles?
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Hopefully this is something (Y)

If France get knocked out, hopefully unveil him with the launch on the 10th (if it's happening).
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BusbyBabe wrote:
For example, if defender A is playing and his team are dominating the game and he only has to make one tackle but defender B is under the pump and makes 10 tackles. Is defender B better because he made more tackles?


Well when you take into account we finished with 15 more points than you, whilst conceding less it's pretty much a sure thing that Evan's would have been the one more under the pump in your scenario.
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Leaked pictures really don't do this kit justice, I absolutely love it.


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jlm8695 wrote:
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For example, if defender A is playing and his team are dominating the game and he only has to make one tackle but defender B is under the pump and makes 10 tackles. Is defender B better because he made more tackles?


Well when you take into account we finished with 15 more points than you, whilst conceding less it's pretty much a sure thing that Evan's would have been the one more under the pump in your scenario.

Oh yeh, forgot this was Evans' first season. What about the years where we pissed the title.
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BusbyBabe wrote:
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For example, if defender A is playing and his team are dominating the game and he only has to make one tackle but defender B is under the pump and makes 10 tackles. Is defender B better because he made more tackles?


Well when you take into account we finished with 15 more points than you, whilst conceding less it's pretty much a sure thing that Evan's would have been the one more under the pump in your scenario.

Oh yeh, forgot this was Evans' first season. What about the years where we pissed the title.


Fellaini was also a good footballer 2 seasons ago, I don't see your point.

Evans also started less than half of your games in your most recent title winning season.
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jlm8695 wrote:
Leaked pictures really don't do this kit justice, I absolutely love it.



I like it!
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pv4 wrote:
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Leaked pictures really don't do this kit justice, I absolutely love it.



I like it!

Looks dope . Seriously going to cop all three kits .
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jlm8695 wrote:
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For example, if defender A is playing and his team are dominating the game and he only has to make one tackle but defender B is under the pump and makes 10 tackles. Is defender B better because he made more tackles?


Well when you take into account we finished with 15 more points than you, whilst conceding less it's pretty much a sure thing that Evan's would have been the one more under the pump in your scenario.

Oh yeh, forgot this was Evans' first season. What about the years where we pissed the title.


Fellaini was also a good footballer 2 seasons ago, I don't see your point.

Evans also started less than half of your games in your most recent title winning season.

Fellaini was never a good footballer.

Evans appearance record has been impacted by injuries. In our last title win, along side Rio, he was crucial.

Again, near going to agree.

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BusbyBabe wrote:
Fellaini was never a good footballer.


:lol:
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BusbyBabe wrote:
For example, if defender A is playing and his team are dominating the game and he only has to make one tackle but defender B is under the pump and makes 10 tackles. Is defender B better because he made more tackles?


I agree with you to an extent, but you're taking a very narrow view of it. You obviously can't use stats to form a judgment or opinion based on one game, it's just not possible for obvious reasons. They're meant to be used over a period of time/games when things generally balance out.
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