Meh, this team can go fuck itself. Can still make it through obviously, but more likely we finish bottom of the group at this rate.

No we're not.

Is everyone prepared for the loss on sunday? Followed by the inevitable collapse to the end of the calendar year and revival as we battle back for 3rd/4th at the end of the season. So basically the same as every other season, just with being out of Europe by January this time.

Bring it on . Fuck it we gonna get 4th and the whole woah is me i support arsenal crys come . I couldnt give a flying fuck anymore. Win lose or draw i just laugh

Serious question. Obviously the players put out are good enough to win that game, they have to do better but I think everyone will agree Wenger has to take most, if not all the blame with the loss. Do you think it was just arrogance in 'resting' Cech? Underrating Olympiakos or do you think he has just given up on Europe and is more focused on qualifying for it, rather than winning it?

Resting cech for me. Never underestimate lower quality teams because they play in a lower league. Cech needs to play every game if possible

Your guess is as good as mine when it comes to why he rested Cech :lol:

Won't be long before finishing 4th is only good enough for a Europa League spot anyway.

Yeh, I was laughing this morning but I really shouldn't :lol:

The way it's going the English UCL teams might be better off all finishing 3rd in their groups and putting everything into going as far in the Europa League as they can :lol:

I was going to say I could see us going to Olympiakos on the final match day needing to make up a three goal deficit to go through on goal difference only to win two-nil, but then I realised it's decided on head-to-head. Funny thing is we could lose both our next two games and still have a decent chance to go through if Dinamo and Olympiakos draw their next two or even win one each :lol:

Scary for the EPL that Arsenal could go into match day 5 with 0 points.

What's scarier is that we could go into matchday 5 with 0 pts and still a decent chance of finishing 2nd in the group :lol:

Sigh, must win Champions League match and 2 of our best players are on the bench. Top kek

Anddddd Kos is injured. Fucking great.

How'd you go from a great win at Leicester to that :lol:

It's how we do things. We'll probably beat United on Sunday :lol:

"DIDN'T NEED TO SIGN ANYONE FAM"

"THINK OF THE COHESION WE'VE ALREADY GOT"

"WALCOTT'S TOTALLY COMING INTO HIS OWN AS A CENTRE FORWARD"

ffs wonga

Wonder what those odds are? :lol:

All we need is for Olympiakos and Dinamo to trade wins against eachother, we beat them by 2 goals in matchday 5 and 6 and we finish 2nd :cool: :cool:. I mean it's a stretch, but not impossible. Also not impossible that we get a draw against Bayern, we are undefeated at the Allianz after all ;)

That also obviously relies on Bayern winning 6/6

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I think you need Lewandoski to get injured along with 2/3 of the Bayern starting 11. Then you might get a 0-0 draw at the Allianz if you park the bus. Bayern are unbeatable at present.

Club chef hasn't made lasagne in a while ;)

Watching the game and unfortunately it's becoming clear why we were linked with left backs in the summer. Gibbs not good enough, and at 26 not sure how much improvement we'll see. Not playing Monreal this morning is just as confusing as not playing Cech imo, especially since it's not as if we play United the early game on Saturday, and it's at home ffs.

If Italian teams outperform English teams in Europe this season Italy takes England's 4th CL slot. This is just a conspiracy to ensure that despite Tottenham's quality youth, new stadium and bright future we will still never make Champions League again.

As bad as the result was there were at least two positives, Sanchez looks back in form and Theo starts and scores once again.

We also have apparently had half the amount of injuries this August and September compared to the same period last year, which is nice I guess :lol:

David Ospina Is Arsenal Scapegoat but Champions League Problems Run Deeper
By James McNicholas , Arsenal Correspondent Sep 29, 2015

EMIRATES STADIUM, London—For years now, Arsenal fans have complained that their Champions League campaigns are all repetitive. They make it through the group stages, only to stumble when the competitions reach the crunch knockout phase.

This year, the Gunners seem determined to provide their supporters with some variation: After two consecutive defeats, there’s a high chance they won’t even make it to the second round.

Qualifying from the group is not impossible, but it will be difficult for Arsenal now. With zero points on the board, their next two games pit them against Pep Guardiola’s Bayern Munich.

While Arsenal stumbled to a 3-2 home defeat to Olympiakos, Bayern were strolling to a 5-0 win against Dinamo Zagreb—a team who defeated Arsenal in the previous round of fixtures. It doesn’t look good for the Gunners.

Much of the attention will surely be focused on Arsene Wenger’s decision to field goalkeeper David Ospina instead of Petr Cech. The Colombian made a major error that gifted the Greeks one of their three goals.

The absence of Cech was difficult to understand. Gunners supporters hoped that the acquisition of a world-class goalkeeper would elevate the team to the level where it could contend for major prizes like the Champions League.

However, Cech has not started either of Arsenal’s European outings to date.

One wonders why Arsenal fought so hard to sign a player they’ve not yet fielded in a competition that is a supposed priority. Wenger made reference to a slight injury problem, but it was not substantial enough to keep him from naming the former Chelsea man among the substitutes.

Speaking to Arsenal.com after the game, Wenger defended his decision to start Ospina:

David Ospina played 19 games last season and kept 14 clean sheets and last week he had a fantastic game. No keeper is mistake free, it could have happened to Petr Cech as well. ...

I make the decisions and selections for the team and I’m responsible for it. I know many things that you don’t know and that you ignore. You cannot select a team by using a poll and getting everyone’s opinion before the game.

Wenger clearly believes that Ospina is not the sole reason Arsenal lost this game. Unfortunately for the Gunners boss, he may be right.

Arsenal have a weakness in the Champions League that extends beyond Wenger’s desire to rotate his keepers. Given the talent they possess in their squad, they consistently underperform in Europe’s elite competition.

Olympiakos are not the first underdog to come to the Emirates Stadium and leave with three goals to their name. In the past 12 months, Anderlecht and Monaco have done the same. Arsenal seem doomed to continually fall into the same tactical traps.

Losing to Bayern is one thing. Losing to sides like this is quite another.

There is an element of strategic sophistication to Champions League football that Wenger and his men cannot seem to get to grips with. Their naivety was perfectly demonstrated when they conceded a third goal within a minute of drawing the game level at 2-2.

That was eerily reminiscent of last year’s tie with Monaco, when Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain clawed the Gunners back into the tie in stoppage time only for them to concede another before the final whistle. Back then, Wenger told the BBC that Arsenal were “suicidal defensively.” Infuriatingly for the watching supporters, they do not appear to have learned from their mistakes.

At present, Arsenal are trapped in a cycle whereby they spend their season battling to qualify for a competition they are incapable of winning. That’s almost as frustrating as signing a top goalie only to leave him out of your biggest games.

It’s vital Arsenal pick up a positive result against Manchester United in their next Premier League game, or the forthcoming international break will feel particularly gloomy.


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:lol: :lol: :lol: I was actually going to bring up Lasagne-Gate. Well played sir!

Also a very underrated ball from Theo for Sanchez's goal.

He might be missing 2/3 opportunities a game which gives the illusion he's not doing that well but they're pretty much all extra chances his pace and movement have made. Scoring regularly and isn;t even finishing well yet.

As long as he keeps this kind of form up it's hard to complain even if he misses a few chances, which shouldn't matter if he's helped by his teammates around him. What we need is another season like last from Sanchez where he gets 20 odd goals, a normal Giroud season where he gets 15-20 goals, and then ontop of that we need Ramsey to improve on last season, Santi will get there with him taking penalties. The big one for me and who we need more goals out of is Ox and obviously Welbz when he comes back.

Edited by sydneycroatia58: 1/10/2015 01:06:31 PM

Obviously hasn't been a great week so far, but that distract from the fact that 19 years ago today a man joined Arsenal that would change the club forever





3 Premier League titles
6 FA Cups which is equal with George Ramsey as the most by any manager in English football history
2 League and Cup doubles
1 undefeated season
3 time Premier League manager of the season
2 time LMA Manager of the season
1077 matches, 619 wins, 250 draws, 208 losses.

Edited by sydneycroatia58: 1/10/2015 06:33:58 PM