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Yet another MultiM Pound signing made on a youth, which for all intents and purposes is solid, yet for a club in a situation such as Arsenal, what!?
Before I end mini-rant, I offer my satisfaction and well wishes to this young gun Chamberlain, at 17 signing on for 15M Pounds, quite the stunning revelation. Highest ever fee for a player his age, alright...
C'mon Wenger, 2 experienced and quality players before window closes, my fingers are figuratively crossed
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sydneycroatia58
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Note this isn't directed at you Sanga, but I really wouldn't blame Arsene if he just packed it in and became a recluse somewhere in France. The guy just can't win. He makes a signing people moan, he doesn't make a signing people moan. I completely understand all the reasons for moaning about players not being signed, and all of them are completely valid, but at least try and enjoy when we do sign a player of immense potential, and English nonetheless.
Some people just complain for the sake of complaining I think.
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Agree 100% SydCro.
Out of all the signings in recent seasons this is similar to one of Arsenal's best signings in Walcott.
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sydneycroatia58
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BusbyBabe wrote:Agree 100% SydCro.
Out of all the signings in recent seasons this is similar to one of Arsenal's best signings in Walcott. It's funny how similar the two signings are. Both signed from Southampton. Theo for around 6m, Alex for probably around 7m. Both right wingers. The biggest difference is that Alex isn't just a Theo clone. He's a better passer, stronger, and is able to play on both wings and as AMC. And if anything this signing, for some reason makes me feel like there will be more. You look at how quick this deal got sewn up. Ok we were after him in January but the rumours had gone cold for a bit and then bang out of nowhere he's having his medical and has signed before the day is out. So we can get a transfer done quickly when we want to. Just hopefully now get that CB that we need. I'll judge Arsene on his transfer business on September 1 and not before that.
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I'm with Sydcro... This for some reason gives me a warm fuzzy feeling that we're about to get another signing or 2 come in. I still have that sinking feeling Fab is gone, in which case I think we need to make a senior and experienced signing of "super quality" as Arsene would say to replace him. Who can spot a pass and make the team tick like that? No idea. Mata wouldn't be a bad replacement. But I expect us to have a few options given the money we'll be receiving for it. I think in the next couple of days we will see Cahill/Jagielka/Samba/Mertesacker/Someone come in. And if Fab's out, then we will hopefully have that replacement deal sorted super quick.
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sydneycroatia58
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have to say I did like Ivan Gazidis' response last night when a fan asked why the club isn't actively chased defensive reinforcements. he just said "How do you know we are not?". I guess it's a by product of the way we conduct our transfers. We prefer to do it privately, and fans get so used to other clubs doing it more publicly that they just assume if we aren't coming out publicly and saying we are chasing this player and that player they just assume we aren't doing anything.
Arsene Wenger is a lot of things, and stupid most definitely is not one of them. He realises the need for reinforcements defensively, and to think he is just ignoring it and not working hard to fix it is just ignorant. I guess it's a case of people just wanting any reason to moan.
Ivan did say that Arsene realises that we need to strengthen defensively and knows there needs to be additions.
In the end like I said before I think the signing of Chamberlain could be a sign of more signings to come, and not the opposite.
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So... Nasri was too injured for the Benfica game but he's fit enough to join the France squad.. Hmm
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sydneycroatia58
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One other interesting thing is that for all the criticism aimed at us for a lack of British players, we are putting together a pretty handy core of British players. We've got Jack, Rambo, Gibbs, Theo all in the first XI or first backup to the first XI. Then you have Kyle Bartley, Henri Lansbury, Benik Afobe, Carl Jenkinson, Alex Chamberlain and Emmanuel Frimpong who are all in the first team squad, or in the case of Bartley, would have been if he weren't on loan.
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sydneycroatia58
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imnofreak wrote:So... Nasri was too injured for the Benfica game but he's fit enough to join the France squad.. Hmm Meh I'm over Nasri :lol: would rather he just go to City and we get 20m for him.
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Gooner
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to be honest. when fab wasnt playing and nasri was playing that central role throughout last season, we were so much stronger and so much quicker, yeah fabregas is an unbelievable player when fit, but im not fussed now if he goes, he wasnt our most influencial player of the season. We have Gervinho now who i think is an unreal signing for the money we paid for him, now in all honesty if we could bring in a Hazard or Gourcuff to replace fab, i think it would be a perfect replacement.
Also on another note we need someone strong and a very tough player, we need someone like viera, yeh we have song and diaby but frimpong playing them friendlies showed that type of player, if we were to sign Samba i dont think we would be doing too bad, im not sure about the jagielka/cahill thing, yeh there good cb's but we need dominant cb's and a leader to wear that armband without fear!
Cmon gunners! We need to start strongly as we have a tough run !
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sydneycroatia58
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:lol: I'd much rather sell Nasri than lose Cesc.
And this pre-season has convinced me that Nasri should not be anywhere near Cesc's position. I'd rather Ramsey there.
Edited by sydneycroatia58: 9/8/2011 08:25:48 PM
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BusbyBabe
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sydneycroatia58 wrote: We prefer to do it privately, and fans get so used to other clubs doing it more publicly that they just assume if we aren't coming out publicly and saying we are chasing this player and that player they just assume we aren't doing anything. +1 regarding all clubs. It isn't clubs like United, City, Chelsea's fault that the media write stories about them. I try and say this to people, that no one knows what happens behind closed doors. Not saying you are contradicting yourself but a few posts ago you said how quick this deal got done, because rumours had died down since January. I am sure negotiations had been going on since then. Just because rumours slow down doesn't mean a thing.
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Gooner
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Gooner wrote: Also on another note we need someone strong and a very tough player, we need someone like viera, yeh we have song and diaby but frimpong playing them friendlies showed that type of player, if we were to sign Samba i dont think we would be doing too bad, im not sure about the jagielka/cahill thing, yeh there good cb's but we need dominant cb's and a leader to wear that armband without fear!
what do you guys think about the above then? really you'd rather lose nasri then cesc? hmm
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sydneycroatia58
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Gooner wrote:Gooner wrote: Also on another note we need someone strong and a very tough player, we need someone like viera, yeh we have song and diaby but frimpong playing them friendlies showed that type of player, if we were to sign Samba i dont think we would be doing too bad, im not sure about the jagielka/cahill thing, yeh there good cb's but we need dominant cb's and a leader to wear that armband without fear!
what do you guys think about the above then? really you'd rather lose nasri then cesc? hmm I'd like another midfielder, but don't see it happening. As for a CB I'd be more than happy with any one of Jagielka, Cahill, Samba or Mertesacker. As for Nasri. He obviously isn't going to sign another contract, and as far as I'm concerned he can fuck off to City for all I care. Reality is he had one great 6 month period last season and was crap for the rest of the season. Cesc on the other hand is one of if not the best midfielder in the world and has done it year after year after year. Nasri is easy to replace. Cesc is almost impossible to replace.
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Gooner
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Hazard or Gourcuff i think would be an unreal replacement! but with the cb situation i dont really rate mertesacker yeah he is tall and fairly strong but compairing to someone like samba you cant go wrong hes a proven premier league player and a good one at that. who in your eyes will take the captaincy? And so whats going to happen to players like walcott arshavin when the season starts?
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sydneycroatia58
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If Cesc leaves it'll be RvP taking the captaincy with Vermaelen taking it when RvP isn't fit.
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i think alex is a good signing simply because hes english. very few english players ever play in europe, and that should mean they would be more likely to stay with arsenal as long as they remain top 4/competitive. (and not do a flamini/nasri/cesc and leave)
add jagielka and its a pretty good team. (or samba)
also does signing another wide player mean nasri is pretty much gone? i hope so
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Joel Campbell deal is also apparently close to being done. Though it's been close most of this pre season I guess. I'm liking the young core of English players we got going on. However again, patience is gonna be required before we start turning this potential into trophies. Though as mentioned above, these English players are more likely to actually stick around than run off to other European clubs so that can only be a good thing.
As for Nasri and Cesc. It's hard to tell. I think Nasri can ultimately fuck off. I don't see him sticking around. It's bad for the team in my opinion. If City pay up he can leave. I think we have plenty of players who can play that position. Maybe not enough experienced depth though? Arshavin, Walcott(who wants to move into the centre), Gervinho are the most experience. But bring an injury to one or 2 of them and it's a bit more difficult.
As for Cesc. I've already said it before. I actually hope Barca pay up so he can leave. I don't want to lose a player that important to our game and finding a player to actually come in and have the same impact on the team is nigh on impossible. But it's gone on long enough. He clearly wants to go and I hope he gets to. Wilshere and Rambo are machines in the midfield but in my opinion we need a proven, experienced player to take the reigns if Fab leaves. Who would be capable of that? No fuuucking idea. But we would need to find him.
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Gooner
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#4_Fabregas wrote:Joel Campbell deal is also apparently close to being done. Though it's been close most of this pre season I guess. I'm liking the young core of English players we got going on. However again, patience is gonna be required before we start turning this potential into trophies. Though as mentioned above, these English players are more likely to actually stick around than run off to other European clubs so that can only be a good thing.
As for Nasri and Cesc. It's hard to tell. I think Nasri can ultimately fuck off. I don't see him sticking around. It's bad for the team in my opinion. If City pay up he can leave. I think we have plenty of players who can play that position. Maybe not enough experienced depth though? Arshavin, Walcott(who wants to move into the centre), Gervinho are the most experience. But bring an injury to one or 2 of them and it's a bit more difficult.
As for Cesc. I've already said it before. I actually hope Barca pay up so he can leave. I don't want to lose a player that important to our game and finding a player to actually come in and have the same impact on the team is nigh on impossible. But it's gone on long enough. He clearly wants to go and I hope he gets to. Wilshere and Rambo are machines in the midfield but in my opinion we need a proven, experienced player to take the reigns if Fab leaves. Who would be capable of that? No fuuucking idea. But we would need to find him. is joel campbell good enough to go straight into the starting lineup though? the thing that hurts me the most is sitting there watching Fabregas play and not have his heart in it, players like Tevez that want to leave but put in there all to get the team the results i respect so much, but i dont think fab is doing that, id hate for him to leave but if we get the right amount of money i dont think theres any wrong doing in grabbing hazard as what fab started off like but building the team around him. Weve seen that him and Gervinho can link up well so why not. Nasri is really starting to shit me as i check everyday to see if he is still an arsenal player, he is absolute magic to me, he has amazing footwork and quick feet, but like all players that arsenal buy, wants to leave for trophies or money....
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sydneycroatia58
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Quote:players like Tevez that want to leave but put in there all to get the team the results i respect so much, but i dont think fab is doing that, You're kidding right. You actually think Cesc isn't giving his all the get results for the team.
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nope not at all, hes lost faith a while ago, and you can see it from the 2009/10 season
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sydneycroatia58
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Gooner wrote:nope not at all, hes lost faith a while ago, and you can see it from the 2009/10 season You mean that 2009/10 season that was the best of his career? :lol:
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Personally I thought Fabregas was lackluster last season. He didn't have that spark anymore. Fair play to him though, he hasn't thrown a fit or complained even once. Midfield isn't our problem, we have plenty of creative players and with Ramsey and Wilshere stepping into the light then we can afford to lose either Fabregas or Nasri. Frankly I think we need a decent defender ASAP. No more kids Mr Wenger! We need men. That said, Djorou (I can't spell his name lol) was great last season so I think we only need one commanding centre half. No-one particularly skillful, just a big, scary thug is all we need. It's the same old thing every season, we wait till the end of the transfer window, realise we can't get who we want and then panic buy. Look at United, they set their targets early and set about getting them quickly. I know they have more money then us, but it's simply our strategy- we need to be more decisive.
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Reports in France that Lorient have asked about taking Carlos Vela on loan. Wouldn't surprise me considering Gourcouff and Wenger are very good friends. Would be a good move for Vela if he can get regular game time.
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Quote:[size=7] Miyaichi granted work permit to play for Club[/size] Arsenal Football Club is delighted to announce that Ryo Miyaichi has been granted the work permit he requires to play first-team football for the Club this season. The 18-year-old arrived in January and spent last season on loan at Dutch club Feyenoord in order to help his adjustment to European football, while awaiting the clearance needed to represent Arsenal in the UK. An FA panel met on Tuesday at Wembley Stadium to decide the case and heard from Arsène Wenger, who was in attendance, before granting the work permit on the grounds that Ryo is an ‘exceptional talent’. Supporting testimonials were also sent by the Japan Football Association, which significantly helped the process. Miyaichi has impressed greatly during pre-season and featured in all matches played outside the UK, but now he has been authorised a work permit which means that he is free to play for Arsenal in the UK. Upon hearing the news, Arsène Wenger said: “We are absolutely delighted that Ryo has been granted a work permit. This is almost like a new signing for us, as we weren’t completely sure we would be given the authorisation. Ryo has worked extremely hard in pre-season and performed very well during the matches in Asia, Germany and Portugal. Wenger continued: “Ryo has natural technical ability. He has good balance and phenomenal pace, and his passing and crossing is consistently of a high quality. He is a very exciting player. He had a successful time with Feyenoord in the Netherlands last season, who gave him the opportunity to play regularly, and we’re looking forward to his contribution this coming season with Arsenal.” Miyaichi will be eligible to play for the first team as soon as the formalities of the paperwork are completed. http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/miyaichi-granted-work-permit-to-play-for-club
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Gooner
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KenGooner_GCU wrote:Personally I thought Fabregas was lackluster last season. He didn't have that spark anymore. Fair play to him though, he hasn't thrown a fit or complained even once. Midfield isn't our problem, we have plenty of creative players and with Ramsey and Wilshere stepping into the light then we can afford to lose either Fabregas or Nasri.
Frankly I think we need a decent defender ASAP. No more kids Mr Wenger! We need men. That said, Djorou (I can't spell his name lol) was great last season so I think we only need one commanding centre half. No-one particularly skillful, just a big, scary thug is all we need.
that my friend is exactly what i think, in what you say about fabregas and what you think about our backline and getting a "thug" like samba to command the backline with Verm.
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Gooner4life_8 wrote:Quote:[size=7] Miyaichi granted work permit to play for Club[/size] Arsenal Football Club is delighted to announce that Ryo Miyaichi has been granted the work permit he requires to play first-team football for the Club this season. The 18-year-old arrived in January and spent last season on loan at Dutch club Feyenoord in order to help his adjustment to European football, while awaiting the clearance needed to represent Arsenal in the UK. An FA panel met on Tuesday at Wembley Stadium to decide the case and heard from Arsène Wenger, who was in attendance, before granting the work permit on the grounds that Ryo is an ‘exceptional talent’. Supporting testimonials were also sent by the Japan Football Association, which significantly helped the process. Miyaichi has impressed greatly during pre-season and featured in all matches played outside the UK, but now he has been authorised a work permit which means that he is free to play for Arsenal in the UK. Upon hearing the news, Arsène Wenger said: “We are absolutely delighted that Ryo has been granted a work permit. This is almost like a new signing for us, as we weren’t completely sure we would be given the authorisation. Ryo has worked extremely hard in pre-season and performed very well during the matches in Asia, Germany and Portugal. Wenger continued: “Ryo has natural technical ability. He has good balance and phenomenal pace, and his passing and crossing is consistently of a high quality. He is a very exciting player. He had a successful time with Feyenoord in the Netherlands last season, who gave him the opportunity to play regularly, and we’re looking forward to his contribution this coming season with Arsenal.” Miyaichi will be eligible to play for the first team as soon as the formalities of the paperwork are completed. http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/miyaichi-granted-work-permit-to-play-for-club Great news, and honestly completely unexpected.
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So we've named our squad for the play-off against Udinese and both Nasri and Cesc are in there.
List B is just youth players born on or after January 1 1990 who have played 2 years or more with the club since their 15th birthday.
List A… Manuel Almunia Andrey Arshavin Nicklas Bendtner Marouane Chamakh Abou Diaby Johan Djourou Emmanuel Eboue Lukasz Fabianski Cesc Fabregas Gervinho Kieran Gibbs Carl Jenkinson Laurent Koscielny Vito Mannone Samir Nasri Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain Tomas Rosicky Bacary Sagna Alex Song Sebastien Squillaci Armand Traore Robin van Persie Carlos Vela Thomas Vermaelen Theo Walcott
List B... Aaron Ramsey Wojciech Szczesny Jack Wilshere Benik Afobe Chuks Aneke Zak Ansah Daniel Boateng George Brislen-Hall Francis Coquelin Craig Eastmond Luke Freeman Emmanuel Frimpong Sead Hajrovic Conor Henderson Gavin Hoyte Jernade Meade Ignasi Miquel Rhys Murphy Nigel Neita Oguzhan Ozyakup Gilles Sunu Sanchez Watt Nico Yennaris
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 Cesc is obviously trying to erase the image of a nude text from Xavi. Edited by sydneycroatia58: 10/8/2011 01:56:56 PM
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/arsenal/8691960/Arsenal-pair-Cesc-Fabregas-and-Samir-Nasri-will-both-leave-the-Emirates-says-Marouane-Chamakh.htmlchamakh says nasri and cesc are leaving. Quote: “I think both are close to leaving,” said the Moroccan international striker. “The manager is looking for replacements, has not found them, and before letting [Fabregas and Nasri] go, he wants to have someone to fill each of their positions.
“Nasri has just one year left on his contract. If they do not sell him, he will leave for free in the summer. Is the club disposed to reject £18 million to keep a player that good for just one year? It is strange that a club like Arsenal has not made him sign a contract earlier.
interesting i read a post saying arsene is going for speed now. they were saying gerv and alex and miyachi are very fast sprinters, and add walcott and we have pace. i always remember arsenal countering impossibly fast during the invincbles years. the opponents would take a corner, and 10 secs later arsenal scored. :D maybe hes trying to do that again. Edited by beersandwich: 10/8/2011 05:51:01 PM
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