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sydneycroatia58 wrote:pimpsta wrote:i am going to the carling cup game next tuesday i know its only vs shrewsbury but i am hoping we will have some form of 1st teamers out there, if only our new signings I'd say Santos is a good chance to start against Shrewsbury, and there's a good chance Park will get some game time. I think this weekend we will go with the Same, or very similar XI to the Dortmund game, and then they will be rested for the Shrewsbury game. I'd be surprised to see anyone who played against Dortmund play against Shrewsbury. The main headline for the advertisment for this game was - SEE OUR NEW SIGNINGS, so i think those two will play,i would say jenkinson will aswell and hopfully ryo will too,
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sydneycroatia58
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I wouldn't be surprised to see something like this against Shrewsbury ---Fabianski---
--Jenkinson--Djourou--Miquel--Santos--
---Ramsey--Frimpong---
---Arshavin---Benayoun---Ryo---
----Chamakh--- At least that's what I'd go with, with maybe swapping Benayoun and Arshavin. And in the middle I guess it depends who's fit. If Rosicky is fit I think it will be him and Frimpong. I might even be tempted to start Park upfront over Chamakh, but think he will go with Chamakh. Also think Chamberlain will get some game time. Edited by sydneycroatia58: 16/9/2011 09:16:15 PM
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sydneycroatia58 wrote:I wouldn't really say he was alamringly caught out. He was only really caught out a couple of times in that first 15 or so mins, but after that he was fucking brilliant, and easily one of our best along with Song. personally i cant wait for vermaelen to make his return.
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sanga1
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catbert wrote:sydneycroatia58 wrote:I wouldn't really say he was alamringly caught out. He was only really caught out a couple of times in that first 15 or so mins, but after that he was fucking brilliant, and easily one of our best along with Song. personally i cant wait for vermaelen to make his return. Just wait until we get a settled back four consisting of Vermaelen partnering Per with Santos and Sagna on the defensive wings. Exciting times ahead!
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sydneycroatia58
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catbert wrote:sydneycroatia58 wrote:I wouldn't really say he was alamringly caught out. He was only really caught out a couple of times in that first 15 or so mins, but after that he was fucking brilliant, and easily one of our best along with Song. personally i cant wait for vermaelen to make his return. Same. It will be good to actually be able to rotate between Mertesacker, Koscielny and Vermaelen like a normal team :lol: The funny thing is, lets say we bought Cahill, I'd find it hard to put him in over Koscielny tbph.
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sydneycroatia58
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Also some rumours that Arshavin will be starting in behind RvP in the #10 role. Would mean Arteta dropping a bit deeper next to Song, and I have to say I would be very happy with that. I think we'll line up something like this. ---Szczesny---
--Sagna--Koscielny--Mertesacker--Gibbs--
--Arteta---Song--
--Walcott----Arshavin----Gervinho--
----RvP---- Edited by sydneycroatia58: 17/9/2011 05:15:18 PM
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sydneycroatia58 wrote:Also some rumours that Arshavin will be starting in behind RvP in the #10 role. Would mean Arteta dropping a bit deeper next to Song, and I have to say I would be very happy with that. I think we'll line up something like this. ---Szczesny---
--Sagna--Koscielny--Mertesacker--Gibbs--
--Arteta---Song--
--Walcott----Arshavin----Gervinho--
----RvP---- Edited by sydneycroatia58: 17/9/2011 05:15:18 PM bout time arsene tries it. its where arshavin wants to be and where he plays for russia.
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catbert
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beersandwich wrote:sydneycroatia58 wrote:Also some rumours that Arshavin will be starting in behind RvP in the #10 role. Would mean Arteta dropping a bit deeper next to Song, and I have to say I would be very happy with that. I think we'll line up something like this. ---Szczesny---
--Sagna--Koscielny--Mertesacker--Gibbs--
--Arteta---Song--
--Walcott----Arshavin----Gervinho--
----RvP---- Edited by sydneycroatia58: 17/9/2011 05:15:18 PM bout time arsene tries it. its where arshavin wants to be and where he plays for russia. it could work brilliantly, but then again arteta has been impressive in that role, so itll be interesting to see how effective arteta is in the supporting role..
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sydneycroatia58
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Starting XI: Szczesny, Sagna, Koscielny, Mertesacker, Santos, Song, Arteta, Ramsey, Gervinho, Arshavin, Van Persie (c)
So it will be Rambo or Mikel in behind RvP with Shava and Gervinho on the wings. Will be interesting to see Santos play.
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Fabianski, Djourou, Gibbs, Benayoun, Coquelin, Walcott, Chamakh on the bench.
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I'd hazard a guess that anyone not involved today, like Ryo, Park, Frimpong and Chamberlain will be be starting against Shrewsbury. Injuries permitting obviously.
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Carlito
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was wondering where park chu young was!
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beersandwich
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fuck ](*,) this is a joke
Edited by beersandwich: 17/9/2011 11:18:21 PM
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Carlito
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could be worse we could be playing man u again:lol:
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sydneycroatia58
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The amount of people saying Arsene should go now really is fucking hilarious :lol:
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Carlito
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i can see us using this and winning the next couple of games
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I think one thing that today proves, well I think so at least, is that our problems are not necessarily the players, I just think we cannot defend. Get Martin Keown in as a defensive coach and leave him with the defenders and let him sort them out.
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MvFCArsenal16.8 wrote:i can see us using this and winning the next couple of games :lol: I can't. Quote:I think one thing that today proves, well I think so at least, is that our problems are not necessarily the players, I just think we cannot defend. Get Martin Keown in as a defensive coach and leave him with the defenders and let him sort them out. Agreed. Edited by gooner4life_8: 17/9/2011 11:53:27 PM
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Carlito
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hopefully wenger does get keown in . he needs to realise that our weakness needs to be fixed before it gets any worse
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I just don't understand how we can go from that brilliant defensive performance against Dortmund, to that shit against Blackburn. It just beggars belief
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Ohh, hey, look, a flying tree-frog-snake! (Koscielny and Djourou search frivolously, easily manipulated as they are)
Gosh, Koscielny had a shocking start to the season, and he isn't improving. Djourou's always been our go to man for defensive frailty week in, week out. I'm not going to bother trying to summarise anything much more. Woow
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I don't get what everyone is going on about with Koscielny going so badly today. I didn't see anything really bad, not like he could do anything about the OG.
And I really am sick of the criticism for him just a few days after his game against Dortmund where he was one of our best.
I don't think he's had a shocking start to the season, I can't remember a game where he was really horrible.
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Wow... just reading on statszone
Arsenal had 23 shots to 8 468 passes to 180 68.6% possession 42 crosses :shock: to 12 9 clearances to 42.
Ouch. Unlucky
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Not to mention the 2 own goals and a clearly offside goal.
Only we could score 5 goals and still lose.
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First half showed Arsenal are capable of playing good football. Second half showed that we have as much mental strength as Terri Schiavo
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sanga1
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sydneycroatia58 wrote:I don't get what everyone is going on about with Koscielny going so badly today. I didn't see anything really bad, not like he could do anything about the OG.
And I really am sick of the criticism for him just a few days after his game against Dortmund where he was one of our best.
I don't think he's had a shocking start to the season, I can't remember a game where he was really horrible. Come on SydCro, I can come up with a list of things he's struggled with, the own goal didn't even cross my mind. - Giving away the ball unnecesarily, putting himself under undue pressure with time on hand - His positioning is lacking, being caught out time and time again, not stepping up and tracking when the other central defender has his lines and man in check - His awareness is sub-par (seems off the pace, he was tactically more switched on last season) Is it a wonder he has been the common denominator and the constant in our shipping of 14 goals in 3 games? Maybe it's a coincidence, maybe not. Perhaps I am being a tad harsh and jumping the gun, perhaps not. If you, god forbid, recorded our prior 3 league games, just track Koscielny's spatial awareness, defending and mistakes.
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Wow, just wow. Arsenal are well shit.
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sanga1 wrote:sydneycroatia58 wrote:I don't get what everyone is going on about with Koscielny going so badly today. I didn't see anything really bad, not like he could do anything about the OG.
And I really am sick of the criticism for him just a few days after his game against Dortmund where he was one of our best.
I don't think he's had a shocking start to the season, I can't remember a game where he was really horrible. Come on SydCro, I can come up with a list of things he's struggled with, the own goal didn't even cross my mind. - Giving away the ball unnecesarily, putting himself under undue pressure with time on hand - His positioning is lacking, being caught out time and time again, not stepping up and tracking when the other central defender has his lines and man in check - His awareness is sub-par (seems off the pace, he was tactically more switched on last season) Is it a wonder he has been the common denominator and the constant in our shipping of 14 goals in 3 games? Maybe it's a coincidence, maybe not. Perhaps I am being a tad harsh and jumping the gun, perhaps not. If you, god forbid, recorded our prior 3 league games, just track Koscielny's spatial awareness, defending and mistakes. +1 kosc is not a great defender. also arsenal are always trying to play offside but they cant do it and it always goes horrible wrong. the evidence is there that when a real team plays us (man u) while i dont think wenger must leave now, something has to change. he cant stay on for too much longer. main reason is arsenal have failed for the same reasons the last 5 years. he alone carries that resonsiblilty. i see it that a new manager is like a new era, washing away all the failures of last few years under wenger, players must impress him or they wont play etc. maybe they can learn how to defend. problem is who do you get. i know ancelloti said he wants to manage epl again. or capello after euros etc. Edited by beersandwich: 18/9/2011 09:24:32 AM
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sydneycroatia58 wrote:Not to mention the 2 own goals and a clearly offside goal.
Only we could score 5 goals and still lose. Was about to say this. 5 goals to 2 and lost. Arsenal have the same problems as last year, brilliant to watch, can't find the back of the net. Still having trouble with the set piece. Whats the go with this, i'm most puzzled. How would anyone explain this?
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benelsmore wrote:Arsenal have the same problems as last year, brilliant to watch, can't find the back of the net. Uhh... we scored five goals :lol: :p Edited by gooner4life_8: 18/9/2011 10:30:13 AM
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